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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 445
| consolefreak | Posted 8/6/2007 9:48:53 AM | message detail |
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Running two back-to-back Ganondorf/Vincent matches would result in
the fewer, more hardcore voters (to a greater extent than Day 1 -->
Day 2 of the BR) in the second match... at least, that's what I think.
Looking at the BR, it seems that Link increased (even more than he
"should have") while Sephiroth weakened, which is why I'd guess
Ganondorf would do better in the second match. I'll mention that at least two matches did run twice (Hayabusa/Jill Valentine and Pokemon GSC/Xenogears). One basically had the same result, and the other changed by a couple percentage points. But, those weren't really true re-matches, since only people with accounts were able to vote on day 1, so both days were messed up as to the true results. Yeah I get the point you're making, and can agree with it, but I was just saying it's not really relevant to transience's statement that Ganondorf could've won had the match been held another day, hence my previous argument. --- The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name. - Stronghold Architect, journal (MTG) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 11:45:48 AM | message detail |
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I'd like to join the crew, but it's doubtful I'd be picked, so yeah. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/6/2007 11:47:53 AM | message detail |
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I think Vincent still wins that match pretty easy on the second day. We
already have two examples (Jill/Ryu H and Vice City/KOTOR) of matches
not changing trends the day after. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 12, Etrian Odyssey, Guitar Hero |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 11:48:46 AM | message detail |
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I believe Xenogears/Pokemon is another example too. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/6/2007 11:52:52 AM | message detail |
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Yo. Save me a place in the Analysis crew. --- Diamond FC: 0602 2739 4972 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/6/2007 12:00:14 PM | message detail |
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From HeroicTronBonne Posted 8/6/2007 2:48:46 PM #404 I believe Xenogears/Pokemon is another example too. That first day doesn't really count given that the match was on pace for less than 10,000 votes. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 12, Etrian Odyssey, Guitar Hero |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 12:01:50 PM | message detail |
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My god, no wonder I hardly remember that match then. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| neonreaper | Posted 8/6/2007 12:11:23 PM | message detail |
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if you want uninformed incoherent analysis, look no further, I'm your man --- Jesus Quintana: Dios mio, man. Liam and me, we're gonna **** you up. The Dude: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 12:13:13 PM | message detail |
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That's just what we need. Wait, don't we have EC for that? >_> <_< --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/6/2007 12:29:59 PM | message detail |
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Didn't EC get a point everytime he wrote one? If he's up for it, I think he'd be good for the Crew. It was 3/4 IIRC. Anyway, when I was talking about the match being held on a different day barring a different result, I wasn't talking about literally having the Ganon/Vincent match held on say Tuesday, and then on Wednesday have it held all over again. Obviously there are many, many things wrong with that (people not realizing it's not the same poll, just being bored of it, and so on), I was talking about if instead of being held on Tuesday originally, something forced it to be held on Thursday instead, and because it's simply a different day, the result is going to be able to sway 2.6%. I think that is ridiculous. In the case of the former, there are way too many unknowns, and anything could happen, but that's not really talking about a contestants true ability in a normal contest setting, the latter is, and I don't think random deviation accounts for that much. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/6/2007 12:41:04 PM | message detail |
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What's with the sudden influx of Crew posts? Anyway, it's already filled up for this Contest, but I'm bring back the Guest spot, so you all can have a chance to be a part of da krew! --- Moltar Status: Eagerly awaiting the bracket! The Analysis Crew...believe |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/6/2007 12:46:44 PM | message detail |
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I'm just correcting my loyal fanbase! --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Gaddswell | Posted 8/6/2007 12:48:00 PM | message detail |
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When do guest sign ups open? --- sig |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/6/2007 12:48:55 PM | message detail |
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Presumably once there's a bracket for matches to be signed up to? --- "Eet's game time..." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/6/2007 12:55:24 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man would've beat Crono for one simple reason, Nintendo SFF against Snake. Uh, that's a strike against Mega Man. It he SFF'd Snake, he's rather weaker than he looks. I like how Mega Man has turned into the new Sonic who is expected to lose to any random character which is almost as strong as the noble nine. Go ahead and waste your bracket... So far as I know, only Vincent/Ganondorf/Zelda are even being considered as possible noble nine breakers this year. They're hardly "any random character", considering TP's release. Just look at how much Ganondorf and Zelda boosted from 2k3 to 2k6 without a major game. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2007 1:13:45 PM | message detail |
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hm.. good point. hard to gauge a TP boost though. really hard to pin Midna now too. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2007 1:46:07 PM | message detail |
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I don't see the big deal of being in the Analysis Crew. Ever since spring 2k4 I've been writing my own analysis. --- The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic. ~Joe Stalin, comment to Churchill at Potsdam, 1945 |
| LinkLegend27 | Posted 8/6/2007 1:50:01 PM | message detail |
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And they've been very good ones at that, charmander. --- Sig goes here. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 1:50:57 PM | message detail |
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It really doesn't matter honestly. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 2:09:56 PM | message detail |
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yep, charmander does a good job. --- xexyz |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 2:12:17 PM | message detail |
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I'd have to agree. There's a lot of good non Crew analysis's out there. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2007 2:20:34 PM | message detail |
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Another problem with the Analysis Crew is that sometimes we get analysis that look like this. "Lol, Mario wins this easily." --- The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic. ~Joe Stalin, comment to Churchill at Potsdam, 1945 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 2:22:37 PM | message detail |
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well, some matches don't really need analysis. Mario vs. Joanna Dark,
for example, was like "uhh... well, Mario wins." that said, 2-3 lines
on a big match is a wasted spot in the AC. --- xexyz |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2007 2:26:01 PM | message detail |
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| charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2007 2:28:04 PM | message detail |
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Opps I missed half the post. I know those types of matches don't need that much discussion, but there should be things like why you expect Mario to get 80% and not something else. --- The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic. ~Joe Stalin, comment to Churchill at Potsdam, 1945 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 2:30:51 PM | message detail |
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yeah, understandable.. but it's kind of hard to put into words. "Joanna is going to be fodder-y. Mario is a proven character, noble nine, etc etc. expect an 80% blowout here. Joanna would do well to break 20%, especially considering Mario shares a console with her and is a zillion times more known and liked. Mario with 81.34%" that's about all you can really say, unless you're just adding filler in order to make it look longer. --- xexyz |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/6/2007 2:36:56 PM | message detail |
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that's about all you can really say, unless you're just adding filler in order to make it look longer. Hey, that's not necessarily true! Sometimes some of us put in hard work to make a write-up for a boring match actually entertaining. I only did it once (Kingdom Hearts/Harvest Moon), but Moltar (among others) always does that. :) --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/6/2007 2:51:26 PM | message detail |
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Hey tranny, I've changed my mind about the analysis crew and want back
in. Any chance I could steal your spot back for myself? =/ If not, I won'd mind at all. Just can't hurt to ask. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 12, Etrian Odyssey, Guitar Hero |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 3:03:44 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to give it a shot - you've had your turn! several of them, actually. 'sides, that decision is up to Moltar, not me. I couldn't give you my spot if I wanted to. --- xexyz |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/6/2007 3:40:25 PM | message detail |
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I always think one of the highlights of the contest is the "end of
round 1" analysis. You know, the epic story ones with the snubs going
mad, Clinkeroth saving eveybody, Ocelot Reborn etc. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 3:41:41 PM | message detail |
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Any type of match like Mario/Joanna really doesn't need to go beyond a
couple of sentences, unless you're trying to be humorous with it.
There's not much "analysis" needed for why that match would be a
blowout. jus cuz --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/6/2007 3:42:33 PM | message detail |
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Guest analysis is where it's at. --- Nominate Gilgamesh from Final Fantasy V for SC2k7! http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/contest_nominate_cb6.php |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/6/2007 3:46:34 PM | message detail |
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I did my own analysis topic for the last 2 contests as well, but the
difference is that the Analysis Crew actually has people following and
reading it, whereas my topic was largely ignored =( TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/6/2007 3:47:09 PM | message detail |
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And who's on the crew this year? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/6/2007 3:47:48 PM | message detail |
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Don't worry, your write-up would be largely ignored too. The difference is everyone would be getting attention around you. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/6/2007 4:28:05 PM | message detail |
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lol --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/6/2007 4:33:31 PM | message detail |
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I love reading the closing stages of Jill/Peach. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/6/2007 4:34:35 PM | message detail |
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I disagree about easy matches and ultra short analyses. You can always
make at least a good-sized paragraph about even the obvious matches.
Plus, you can at least give an analysis on the percentages. It just looks plain bad and...unprofessional to see stuff with one or two sentences all the time. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/6/2007 4:48:19 PM | message detail |
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I think in first round matches like Mario/Joanna, you could take a
paragraph with a general overview of what the strong character of the
two (in this case, Mario) could do in the contest, what boosts he might
have gained, how he might have weakened, etc. For the match itself, I
don't think there's a huge amount of scope for analysis. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/6/2007 5:40:23 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. Every first round analysis should have some substance, if only because you can discuss the characters themselves. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 5:49:10 PM | message detail |
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There's nothing wrong with typing up a
post-long analysis on why Snake is going to smash Manny Calavera into
the ground, but it's also entirely unnecessary. That isn't to say you
can't provide some substance, but there's no need to be
particularly verbose. A couple of quick sentences can justify the pick
and the percentage -- at that high of a percentage, it's mostly
abritrary as it is, unless you're going above and beyond the norm. There's a difference between doing that for a 60/40 match and doing it for a 90/10, obviously, but the former is worth typing up a couple of paragraphs with good content while the latter is just filling it with extraneous information, unless there's some sorta justification in there about how X percentage will mean a possibly winning the bracket. To each his own, though. --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/6/2007 5:55:42 PM | message detail |
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I think a paragraph is optimal for most matches. As they get more
debatable, you can add more...but you can cover your reasoning for
picking one character over another by so-and-so percentage in a
paragraph. Add another one or two paragraphs if you want to cover the
whole debate on the matter. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 8/6/2007 6:01:09 PM | message detail |
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Bah, the ten post analysis for Snake/Soma is where it is at! Or at the
very least, a bunch of ridiculous predictions with just as ridiculous
reasoning. ...Lopen isn't coming back for another round, I take it? D: ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.board8wiki.com/Lady_Ashe |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/6/2007 6:02:31 PM | message detail |
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If Lopen is not on the analysis crew this year I will riot. --- Nominate Gilgamesh from Final Fantasy V for SC2k7! http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/contest_nominate_cb6.php |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/6/2007 6:13:33 PM | message detail |
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I always had at least a paragraph for all of my analyses (aside from
the 2 weeks I was out of town for the series contest and made brief
predictions beforehand) TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/6/2007 7:01:16 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe we're sitting here talking about the correct length and
etiquette for how to write a proper contest analysis. Just write the
bloody thing and move along! Everyone here has their own style. No
sense in trying to make everyone fit into a writing norm. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 7:34:52 PM | message detail |
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MNM knows what's up. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/6/2007 8:53:03 PM | message detail |
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From therealmnm Posted 8/6/2007 10:01:16 PM #446 I can't believe we're sitting here talking about the correct length and etiquette for how to write a proper contest analysis. Just write the bloody thing and move along! Everyone here has their own style. No sense in trying to make everyone fit into a writing norm. \m/ I was talking to Leon on AIM, and he brought up a good point: The nomination form has no twist written on it. Maybe we'll see past winners back in? ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 12, Etrian Odyssey, Guitar Hero |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 8:54:23 PM | message detail |
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I hope that's the twist.. I can't think of too many twists that seem like a good thing. --- xexyz |
| ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 8:57:22 PM | message detail |
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That would seem to be the implication. There's nothing specified about any characters being guaranteed. --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
