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Rexcowgirl | Posted 8/4/2007 4:55:11 AM | message detail
Contest Stats and NOMINATE TOMBA
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/4/2007 4:59:50 AM | message detail
Sonic and Knuckles - Yes
Shadow - Touch and go
Tails - Probably only if the brackets extended

Can't really see any other Sonic characters making it. Amy and Robotnik only really made it previously because their brackets were catered for them.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/4/2007 6:08:31 AM | message detail
Man, how did I let HM take my role of Raiden hype machine in here? Tell me!

I was doin it before it was cool, buddy...!!


I've been doing it since it was cool, but that's all I can do, because as soon as I get behind something, it's instant popularity baby ! !

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2007 6:13:52 AM | message detail
heh... I nominated 4 Sonic characters. I never realized I liked them so much.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/4/2007 7:03:19 AM | message detail
Anybody else think the lack of a huge banner on the main page means we'll get alot less nominations from outside Board 8?

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/4/2007 7:16:26 AM | message detail
Good point.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2007 7:29:12 AM | message detail
this could be a problem..
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/4/2007 7:34:48 AM | message detail
Maybe Knuckles, who bombs in the second round.

So, which joke character has a better shot? Bidoof or Matt the Mii?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2007 7:38:59 AM | message detail
I like Matt more. plenty have played Wii Sports.
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Samurai7 | Posted 8/4/2007 7:51:59 AM | message detail
Matt didn't originate in a video game as all built in miis are originated as real people who develope at nintendo >.> lol
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 8:23:14 AM | message detail
lol @ Knuckles bombing. I reckon that'll happen right after Dante triples Link.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/4/2007 8:36:44 AM | message detail
I think we need to see Knux vs Zero

Both of them perform amazingly when not againstj Squintendo and both would probably be around similar strength.

Plus they're both red sidekicks to a blue main character.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/4/2007 8:37:21 AM | message detail
Oh and LL seems to be rallying behind Matt so he has a pretty good shot of making it

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/4/2007 8:39:11 AM | message detail
Better Matt than Bidoof.

I don't think Matt will be allowed in either way, but still.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 8:43:47 AM | message detail
ugh Knuckles performs fantastic against Squintendo. Most of his victories were against Square characters and if Shadow is anything to go by he'd put a massive dent in any Nintendo character.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/4/2007 8:45:16 AM | message detail
Round 1 Matches -

(1) Sonic
(8) Knuckles

(1) Crono
(8) Magus

(2) Mega Man
(7) Zero

"lol"
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swirIdude | Posted 8/4/2007 8:46:24 AM | message detail
if Shadow is anything to go by he'd put a massive dent in any Nintendo character.

Very reliable.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 8:48:37 AM | message detail
Well throw alongside Shadow's 45% on Mario, Sonic's mauling of an impressive Luigi and I think it's fair to say that Sonic characters step up a gear on Nintendo. >_>

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2007 9:05:42 AM | message detail
Guys, I'm really doubting Zero under-performs against Nintendo characters in general. It's been said a hundred times, but Zero was looking weaker in 2k5 before he faced Mario according to both Hayabusa and Lloyd PLUS that was a great year for Mario. In 2k6, he was dead-even with Luigi...and MKDS and NSMB had come out since the last contest, coupled with the ever-increasing sales of the DS (which, at the time, its three biggest games were SM64DS, MKDS, and NSMB) and the Wii hype. Not only that, but the intangibles tend to help out Nintendo in most matches...I'm not saying Luigi > Zero was a lock or nothing, it should have been closer, but with all things considered Zero didn't do so bad...

...if you're looking for a reason Zero under-performed, compare Mario/Zero to Luigi/Zero like lots of people compared Cloud/Vyse to Tifa/Vyse -- why wouldn't most people who voted for Mario/Cloud over Zero/Vyse also vote Luigi/Tifa over Zero/Vyse? I don't buy Zero being under-rated in 2k5, therefore I'm skeptical about him being over-rated in 2k6...but I think that would make the most sense. I'd like to see Zero face Link to see if he could hold up though -- Mega Man couldn't in 2k4, but Zero held up perfectly well against Mega Man that same year...

...but I don't think Zero's going to hold up so well this year anyway. The new generation of consoles are in, and that doesn't favor anything Mega Man-related. Long-term gamers now have a new era of gaming in their mind without Zero, new gamers aren't going to be familiar with them, and the Mega Man games -- to my experience, at least -- are becoming out-dated pretty quickly for even gameplay. We've also seen the shift that the Capcom-poll suggested afew weeks ago that RE has now passed MM and that we hardly saw anything impressive from Mega Man, Zero, or even Roll...

...I'd like to see Mega Man return to glory, but without something major he's not going to be any better off than Crono. Zero's in that same boat, and I don't see them patching the hole anytime soon.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/4/2007 9:34:18 AM | message detail
Yet Sonic's apparant strengths against Nintendo didn't help him at all against Snake last year. Unless you're implying that he stole some of Snake's Nintendo votes and is actually weaker than Mega Man.

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redrocket | Posted 8/4/2007 9:53:00 AM | message detail
What do you guys reckon are the Sonic characters chances of getting in? Sonic's a given, but the others.

Somebody else?


Hmm, Silver is a possibility, if not a good one. Probably has about the same odds as Tails. I'm actually kinda surprised he wasn't the focus of a Smurf rally...
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 10:09:51 AM | message detail
The only worthwhile thing Silver ever did was be on the end of a well timed Shadow kick to the head.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2007 10:11:57 AM | message detail
I dunno about using Ryu H. to say Zero dropped.. didn't he lose to Sora with a non-ninja picture?

though Lloyd does point it out though..
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Tai | Posted 8/4/2007 10:19:33 AM | message detail
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2007 10:25:56 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2805

dunno what one could make out of this. Mega Man fell a few percents though.
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ToadYoshi | Posted 8/4/2007 10:28:25 AM | message detail
Ike > Master Chief
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/4/2007 10:31:18 AM | message detail
LL is rallying Matt?

How well is it going over there?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:25:03 AM | message detail
Using RPGuy's update at post 252 here's the updated bracket. Not as good as the first one, but still has some interesting matches.

Division 1

1) Mewtwo (Pokemon)
8) Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic)

4) Zero (Mega Man X)
5) Revolver Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid)

3) Meta Knight (Kirby)
6) Pit (Kid Icarus)

2) CATS (Zero Wing)
7) Ridley (Metroid)

Division 2

1) Fox McCloud (Star Fox)
8) Auron (Final Fantasy X)

4) Bowser (Mario)
5) Toad (Mario)

3) Alucard (Castlevania: SotN)
6) Frog (Chrono Trigger)

2) Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2)
7) Yoshimitsu (Soul Calibur)

Division 3

1) Ike (Fire Emblem)
8) Pikachu (Pokemon)

4) Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
5) Amaterasu (Okami)

3) Jade Curtiss (Tales of the Abyss)
6) Kratos (God of War)

2) Nightmare (Soul Calibur)
7) Miles Edgeworth (Phoenix Wright)

Division 4

1) Wario (Mario)
2) Johnny Cage (Mortal Kombat)

4) Nana (Ice Climbers)
5) Squall (Final Fantasy VIII)

3) Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V)
6) Kirby (Kirby)

2) Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII)
7) Rufus Shinra (Final Fantasy VII)

Division 5

1) Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright)
8) Riku (Kingdom Hearts)

4) KOS-MOS (Xenosaga)
5) Vivi (Final Fantasy IX)

3) Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil)
6) Luigi (Mario)

2) Magus (Chrono Trigger)
7) Captain Falcon (F-Zero)

Division 6

1) Knuckles the Echidna (Sonic)
8) Ifnkovhgroghprm (King’s Quest)

4) Lyndis (Fire Emblem)
5) Kefka (Final Fantasy VI)

3) Midgar Zolom (Final Fantasy VII)
6) Jigglypuff (Pokemon)

2) Balthier (Final Fantasy XII)
7) Tails (Sonic)

Division 7

1) Matt (Wii Sports)
8) Sanger Zonvolt (Super Robot Wars)

4) Zelos Wilder (Tales of Symphonia)
5) Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat)

3) Banjo (Banjo Kazooie)
6) Mega Man (Mega Man)

2) Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong Country)
7) Yoshi (Mario)

Division 8

1) Bidoof (Pokemon)
8) Diablo (Diablo)

4) Klonoa (Klonoa)
5) Ness (Earthbound)

3) Akuma (Street Fighter)
6) Gordon Freeman (Half-Life)

2) Midna (LoZ: Twilight Princess)
7) Vincent Valentine (Final Fantasy VII)

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wavedash101 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:27:53 AM | message detail
Bidoof wins that one
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satai_delenn | Posted 8/4/2007 11:31:42 AM | message detail
Heh heh...Raiden a higher seed than Snake...I like this bracket.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 11:32:18 AM | message detail
Zero/Knuckles or Zero/Magus would be a nice match to see, going back to Harrich's posts a page or two back. A fourpack with the three involved would be able to measure each one's contest worth very well IMO.
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2007 11:37:17 AM | message detail
Man, how did I let HM take my role of Raiden hype machine in here? Tell me!

Haha. I'm just spreading the seeds for the inevitable Raiden upset run through the bracket!

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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2007 11:39:58 AM | message detail
Oh, what the... when did Smurf come back? augh crappy sonic hype

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wavedash101 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:40:39 AM | message detail
lol Raiden upset...I'm laughing up a storm at that one


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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 11:41:05 AM | message detail
Come to think of it, I don't think HM has ever had a Sonic fandom stage of his life...at least one that isn't documented on Board 8 anyways >_> interesting
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:41:57 AM | message detail
I'd like to see Zero face Link to see if he could hold up though -- Mega Man couldn't in 2k4, but Zero held up perfectly well against Mega Man that same year...

I have to mention this... Mega Man didn't look so badly SFFed by Link when you consider what Mega Man did to Yoshi.

dunno about using Ryu H. to say Zero dropped.. didn't he lose to Sora with a non-ninja picture?

Let's use the same idea, but reversing the years. Dante beat Hayabusa by 2% more than Zero did, suggesting that Dante's stronger than Zero '05, and it's hard for me to imagine Dante even now being stronger than the Zero we once knew.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2007 11:43:33 AM | message detail
I remember one...for like a week.

Anyway, it's good to have something to discuss. This (CS+D as well as the board in general) was getting awful.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 11:45:33 AM | message detail
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I can't help but agree with ya there, bud.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/4/2007 11:46:38 AM | message detail
Nobody is arguing that Zero hasn't dropped in strength. I've already said I'd probably take Dante over Zero now. I just argue against Zero being as weak as his match against Luigi showed. Going by that, he dropped off even further than he did against Mario over the course of a year. No mainstay character legitimately drops off like that.
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2007 11:46:52 AM | message detail
lol Raiden upset...I'm laughing up a storm at that one

Laugh now, cry later -- Raiden's going to rock faces this year, yo!

So long as, you know, he doesn't pull someone like Auron in round 1. Any of these chumps people are rallying behind like Mewtwo, Ike, Fox, or Midna (not really a chump, but work with me here)? Easy winnings right there!

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wavedash101 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:47:37 AM | message detail
Cmon Capcom...MMZ Collection for DS to boost Zero

You know you want to...>.>
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2007 11:49:10 AM | message detail
Zero/Knuckles or Zero/Magus would be a nice match to see, going back to Harrich's posts a page or two back. A fourpack with the three involved would be able to measure each one's contest worth very well IMO.

Just to chime in here for a second on that whole fourpack, I'd probably rank them something like Dante > Knuckles > Zero > Magus.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 11:50:57 AM | message detail
Midna's gonna be my upset pick of this year. She's gonna win her division >_>
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therealmnm | Posted 8/4/2007 11:51:17 AM | message detail
No DS collection is boosting Zero.

Mainstream incredibly hyped console action game is about the only way I'll have faith.
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2007 11:53:58 AM | message detail
I can't even remember the last time Mega Man had a decently hyped new game.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 11:54:37 AM | message detail
Mega Man has NEVER had hype on ANY of his games in America at least. No, I'm serious.
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wavedash101 | Posted 8/4/2007 11:54:47 AM | message detail
I was kidding...I could care less about Zero in this contest...I just want all the MMZs in one cartridge of goodness on the new PS2
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consolefreak | Posted 8/4/2007 2:50:55 PM | message detail
I'm going to catch up to the stats topic later, and I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already, but in the interim I'd just like to say : does anyone else think the twist might be tag teams? I mean no twist has been clear from the nominations page, but we do get 15..
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_Harmonica_ | Posted 8/4/2007 2:55:07 PM | message detail
I don't know, but I certainly hope not. After the female bracket, I'd like to see the "normal" character battle return.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/4/2007 3:12:39 PM | message detail
Mega Man has NEVER had hype on ANY of his games in America at least. No, I'm serious.

The only game I can think of is Mega Man X. After that it was only his fanbase that hyped up every game Capcom churned out.
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