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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/3/2007 1:38:34 PM | message detail
Which was my point. Guys like Frog, Knux or Magus are people that have always been interesting to watch, yet all 3 were snubbed last year (partly due to the lol female half). I'd rather throw my nominations behind these guys than waste them on people who are guarenteed entrance like MC or Sonic.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/3/2007 1:40:31 PM | message detail
I nominated Magus because he's my favorite between Frog/Magus(I love em both though and would LOVE to see a match between the two just to see where the SFF would fall. You can make the obvious Villain/Hero case I suppose, but still.), and I'm pretty sure Smurf and the rest of the Sonic goons will make sure Knux will get in. Frog does still need some support though.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/3/2007 1:41:03 PM | message detail
Not having nominations go on the front page would be horrendous. A board 8 nominated bracket is not a bracket I would like to see.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 1:41:15 PM | message detail
I dunno about THAT close, but he got ~39% on Crono in 2k5...Solid Snake in 2k4 was weaker, and his sprite-matches haven't ever done him any favors.

Anti-votes, sure, but they've not prevented him from impressing before; whether it's against a newcomer like Frog or a Noble Niner like Crono, it's not like his anti-votes have cost him all that much. They cost him MC/Frog and probably MC/Sub-Zero...that's it. In 2k4, with the Halo 2 hype rising and against the weakest we'd ever seen Snake on his worst day? I won't say for sure MC would have matched Frog, but he wouldn't have been far off.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2007 1:42:36 PM | message detail
As for vote totals looking at some of the totals in regular potd questions, I'm thinking that they will be as high if not higher than last year's vote totals.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/3/2007 1:43:01 PM | message detail
I'm sure frog was also benefiting from the being the underdog who just kept on going too, I really doubt MC does as well as Frog does against Snake in 2K4.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 1:46:05 PM | message detail
I nominated Knuckles because he is both my favorite and the strongest of the three...but he hasn't had that many exciting matches outside of Knuckles/Magus.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2007 1:46:10 PM | message detail
Magus/Frog is just an easy match to call, plain and simple. Magus simply has everything going for him as far as the SFF goes there.

Sure there are people that insist that Frog can beat him. There are still people out there still insisting Tidus can beat Auron, too. (am I comparing Frog's lameness to Tidus'? yes)

"Excitement" is based upon bracket placement and a bit of luck, that's all it is. Frog's had the good fortune to be placed in a lot of close ones, give him unlucky draws and he's just another midcarder.

Liquid's just as good a choice to nominate as Frog - and unlike the green one, I'd wager him being stronger then when we last saw him if he reappeared.

But you could easily say the same thing about Shadow (and despite my detesting of him... the hedgehog would be strong as HELL at this point - you want some new stronger blood for interesting matches, nom him).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/3/2007 1:49:22 PM | message detail
I never said Knuckles has exciting matches, just that he's always interesting to see

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2007 1:49:45 PM | message detail
I won't say for sure MC would have matched Frog, but he wouldn't have been far off.

You are wrong.

MC impresses because he has an immovable contingency of people who will vote for him over anyone, and then a huge contingency of people that will vote anyone over him. His performances relative to his "true" strength (the one that matters in any close match) are what do that. If you can't see how that would have prevented him from going 50/50 with Solid Snake, no matter what the day, time, or place - well, there's not much more I can do but repeat the obvious - you're wrong.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 2:01:06 PM | message detail
MC has gotten 39% on Crono, Solid Snake was noticeably weaker than Crono in 2k4 (even his 2k5 self was below Crono 2k5), and Solid is notorious for underperforming with sprites. MC has also proven he can get large percentages of the vote despite anti-votes...even if it was against Crash and CATS.

MC would have done about as good as Frog against Solid Snake in 2k4.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 2:07:19 PM | message detail
I'll also note, before anybody else does, that Lara Croft has gotten about 80% before. I'll then remind everybody that Lara isn't so much hated as apathetic, and that Crash or CATS could smash the ever-loving hell out of Alyx.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/3/2007 2:11:26 PM | message detail
we should all take this time to laugh at soul for sucking at life

lol

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therealmnm | Posted 8/3/2007 2:12:13 PM | message detail
I seriously doubt that Master Chief is getting 47% on Solid Snake in any year. Definitely not in 2k4 no matter how crappy Snake looked. Xbox hate was still pretty damn strong on this site back then. No way Master Chief does what Frog did, who probably had a huge bandwagon behind him in that match.
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ZFS | Posted 8/3/2007 4:23:46 PM | message detail
"Excitement" is based upon bracket placement and a bit of luck, that's all it is. Frog's had the good fortune to be placed in a lot of close ones, give him unlucky draws and he's just another midcarder.

And that's just about all that needs to be said about characters who are regarded as "exciting."

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/3/2007 5:38:31 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say Crono dropping is entirely conclusive, let alone CT as a whole dropping. Or, CT might recover this year. It does seem like CT has lost its steam with the rise of the new generation, though.

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ZFS | Posted 8/3/2007 6:09:58 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if CT-related characters have -- or do -- drop. I think they reached their peak in the contest setting a few years back. It'd take a cameo in a popular Square game or an entirely new entry into the Chrono series to really get them back up to old levels.

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Tediz247 | Posted 8/3/2007 6:36:46 PM | message detail
Nominations are now on the home page. Not sure how long they've been there, but now we know it isn't only board-based.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/3/2007 6:41:09 PM | message detail
it's been there for a few hours now.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/3/2007 7:22:52 PM | message detail
Knuckles the Echidna - Sonic the Hedgehog
Zero - Mega Man X
Fox McCloud - Star Fox
Diddy Kong - Donkey Kong Country
Marcus Fenix - Gears of War
Mewtwo - Pokemon
Bowser - Super Mario Bros.
Princess Peach - Super Mario Bros.
Toad - Super Mario Bros.
Ryu Hayabusa - Ninja Gaiden

Pondering what to do with these last 5 nominations. I'll probably nominate Shadow just to help him get back in. Might give one to Vivi although I don't think he'll be as strong as he was in 2k5.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/3/2007 7:24:20 PM | message detail
yours look almost exactly like mine, and I even nominated your maybes.

awww yeah
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/3/2007 7:24:26 PM | message detail
Help Pikachu back in!

Ness too!
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trannyscience | Posted 8/3/2007 7:27:28 PM | message detail
no offense, but of every possible character you could rally behind, Pikachu is the last one you should try to bring back. he's already failed twice, once being more than doubled by Fox (who hasn't even been back since).

it's not like he didn't get a fair shake. it's not like he's going to improve by a substantial amount due to a new release or something. he's Pikachu.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 7:31:30 PM | message detail
If Pikachu makes it in, it's only so Mewtwo can make light work of him.
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/3/2007 7:39:59 PM | message detail
He's still a load better than Bidoof and he has potential to surprise since data on him is old.

Might as well try to bring him back too along with a bunch of the others.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/3/2007 7:40:26 PM | message detail
being better than a bad joke isn't saying much!
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ZFS | Posted 8/3/2007 7:41:47 PM | message detail
Seriously. What's with you guys and the fodder?

Be a hero, be different -- nominate Raiden!

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Gaddswell | Posted 8/3/2007 7:47:11 PM | message detail
I would've if I didn't accidentally waste my noms. I quadruple nominated Tifa.... -_-
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trannyscience | Posted 8/3/2007 7:48:18 PM | message detail
haha, this page of the stats topic shall be remembered for you preaching Pikachu and 4xTifa.

adieu, Gaddswell, a true memory in stats topic lore.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/3/2007 7:50:08 PM | message detail
I nominated Raiden.
Gaddswell | Posted 8/3/2007 7:51:06 PM | message detail
I've been around other pages too!
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ZFS | Posted 8/3/2007 7:51:15 PM | message detail
Man, that's some hardcore lovin' you've got for Tifa there! Vlado ain't got nothing on that.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2007 8:09:58 PM | message detail
Vlado hasn't announced how many acounts he used to nominate Tifa once though. Totally inconclusive if Vlado's got anything on that!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 12:10:08 AM | message detail
We need more Midna love. I hope she gets a good seed.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2007 12:15:29 AM | message detail
I hope she gets a good seed and a criminally underseeded opponent. :D
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transience | Posted 8/4/2007 12:15:58 AM | message detail
Midna vs Riku gogogo
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 12:16:39 AM | message detail
Riku jobs 55-45

YEAH THATS RIGHT
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2007 12:37:42 AM | message detail
who the hell jobs with 55%
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 12:44:55 AM | message detail
yo mama
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transience | Posted 8/4/2007 12:45:32 AM | message detail
what does that even mean
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transience | Posted 8/4/2007 12:46:28 AM | message detail
oh and saying Midna beats Riku 55/45 means Midna = Yoshi > Dante

aw yeah
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 12:48:08 AM | message detail
aw yeah is right tranny
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 12:48:39 AM | message detail
Who would win in this 4 pack of evenly matched characters?

Crono
Mario

Mega Man
Shadow

IMO

Crono 48%
Mario 52%

Mega Man 12%
Shadow 88%

then like 50/50 split between mario and shadow becuase shadow has gained since the last time and nobody likes the wii and the BHF (black hedgehog factor) will swing it for him.

Man I missed posting here. ^__^

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/4/2007 12:50:01 AM | message detail
Mario > Mega Man
None of the battles being close.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/4/2007 12:51:04 AM | message detail
TRE is correct
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2007 1:39:48 AM | message detail
Riku beats Midna. She'll do good...but THAT good? I'll be impressed.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2007 1:41:07 AM | message detail
Mario jobs to the ULTIMATE LIFE FORM with 55%.
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Lopen | Posted 8/4/2007 3:00:29 AM | message detail
Man, how did I let HM take my role of Raiden hype machine in here? Tell me!

I was doin it before it was cool, buddy...!!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/4/2007 4:53:01 AM | message detail
I say we nominated Raiden's Hat.

Not the Thunder Dynamo himself. Just the Hat. Because the Hat is awesome
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__Smurf__ | Posted 8/4/2007 4:55:08 AM | message detail
What do you guys reckon are the Sonic characters chances of getting in? Sonic's a given, but the others.

Knuckles
Shadow
Tails
Eggman?
Amy?
Somebody else?

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