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wavedash101 | Posted 8/2/2007 5:26:44 PM | message detail
Well he was mentioned off hand in a Miyamoto interview stating he wasnt gonna talk about Luigi and SMG cause he didnt wanna give anything away...but that still doesnt mean he will be in or out...plus info like that might not be revealed in time to make a difference for Luigi, he could be out the contest by then
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 5:44:57 PM | message detail
Mewtwo/Ness. go.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2007 5:50:48 PM | message detail
Mewtwo beats Ness because of Nintendo SFF, but in the x-stats Ness > Mewtwo.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:00:29 PM | message detail
Mewtwo beats Ness easily.

I said this in the other topic: If Jigglypuff got in, her floor would be Ness. He gets all his strength from Super Smash Bros, and Jigglypuff also appeared in both games, in addition to the exposure from the TV Show. The only argument against that would be anti-votes, but I've never seen anybody actually HATE on her. Her role in the show was sparce, but generally people think of her as an amusing recurring character, which is why she made the games in the first place. The people who vote against her are the same people who would anti-vote Mewtwo.
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Nominate Jigglypuff! (and Wobbuffet!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQJLuFs49qk
Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:04:21 PM | message detail
And no, I don't think she would be a powerhouse. I'm just sayin' she's above the fodder line. >>
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Nominate Jigglypuff! (and Wobbuffet!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQJLuFs49qk
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:07:47 PM | message detail
would the SFF really swing into Mewtwo's favor? I find it hard to believe.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2007 6:14:39 PM | message detail
Pokemon > Earthbound
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:17:30 PM | message detail
yeah but which would the SSB fanbase lean to?
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2007 6:18:53 PM | message detail
I've never seen anybody actually HATE on her

Who in the world likes it?

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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/2/2007 6:19:05 PM | message detail
From MarioSuperstar Posted 8/2/2007 9:07:47 PM #056
would the SFF really swing into Mewtwo's favor? I find it hard to believe.

Ness doesn't get most of his popularity from Earthbound, so most people basically know him as an empty shell. (Which admittedly works well enough for Link, though) Mewtwo is the badass Pokemon from the movie that a lot of GameFAQers will have watched as kids. I find it hard to believe that Mewtwo would somehow not SFF Ness. o.O
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Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:19:19 PM | message detail
I think Ness is higher tiered than Mewtwo.

And Jiggly is higher than both.

NO I WILL NOT SHUT UP ABOUT HER
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Nominate Jigglypuff! (and Wobbuffet!)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQJLuFs49qk
trannyscience | Posted 8/2/2007 6:19:27 PM | message detail
Alanna.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:20:48 PM | message detail
Mewtwo is the badass Pokemon from the movie that a lot of GameFAQers will have watched as kids. I find it hard to believe that Mewtwo would somehow not SFF Ness. o.O

still, I think Ness would SFF Pikachu, but I'm not so sure about Mewtwo.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/2/2007 6:22:32 PM | message detail
Well, yeah, Pikachu is just a "dum yellow rat". He basically gets everything bad about the series associated with him, whereas Mewtwo gets the good.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:23:36 PM | message detail
you say SSBM gives them the bulk of their popularity, but we're not entirely sure which the "SBB SFF" would lean to, and I like to believe Ness simply because he gets a lot of fanfare in both games.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:23:56 PM | message detail
Who in the world likes it?

You hate pokemon in general, so your argument is null.
trannyscience | Posted 8/2/2007 6:24:30 PM | message detail
I can't wait for nominations to be over so we can stop debating an endless number of pokeymen.

...and focus on one or two pokeymen instead!
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NClark128 | Posted 8/2/2007 6:25:16 PM | message detail
Attention all peoples in the stats topic! NOMINATE TAILS! We know he can at least beat Viewtiful Joe, don't we?

*wonders if he's being a little too aggressive on this*
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ShyGuy101 | Posted 8/2/2007 6:25:18 PM | message detail
I'd pick Ness. I can see Ness rallied like heck amongst the Earthbound community, I wouldn't underrate him. He could pull a surprise.

And no one would anti-vote Ness. But perhaps they would anti-vote against pokemon... just a thought. I know it would be a dark horse but hey, at least a possibility.

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therealmnm | Posted 8/2/2007 6:25:35 PM | message detail
What the hell is all this about Jigglypuff? Just because you aren't hated doesn't mean you are automatically liked. Jigglypuff exudes indifference. Jigglypuff's floor being Ness is crazy. Ness actually has fans of his own even if it stems from SSBM. I don't know many people who are Jigglypuff fans.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/2/2007 6:28:46 PM | message detail
And no one would anti-vote Ness.

Heh... heh...
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2007 6:29:34 PM | message detail
I don't make it a secret that I dislike Pokemon, no.

I can understand, say, Mewtwo. People think he's a badass cat thing with psychic powers. More power to them.

But this isn't cool; this isn't even good looking -- http://www.bunnybass.com/e-zine/pictures/interview/jigglypuff.jpg

Really.

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trannyscience | Posted 8/2/2007 6:30:33 PM | message detail
haha.

god, this contest needs to start. I want to see Mewtwo vs. Raiden fights for the next month.

do it, Bacon. do it.
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2007 6:31:57 PM | message detail
Raiden with 60%+!

Book it, yo!

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Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:33:21 PM | message detail
Look at Kirby, and see how well he does.

People LIKE her because she's a dum pink ball. Besides, that picture of her isn't particularly flattering.

And ask any half-decent SSB player and they'll tell you that she's a force to be reckoned with in the right hands.
Lady Ashe | Posted 8/2/2007 6:34:47 PM | message detail
From therealmnm Posted 8/2/2007 9:28:46 PM #071
And no one would anti-vote Ness.

Heh... heh...


This.

The Pokemon anti-voters are generally just about it being "too kiddy", since they watched the show when they were younger and people are typically insecure. <_<

Unlike Pikachu or Butterfree, who are nice cute Pokemon who fall in love and feel loyalty to their masters, Mewtwo is all about *Pokemon Movie Spoilers* destroying the world with an army of clones. Sure, he'll still get anti-voted, but not to as large an extent.

I'll take Raiden over Mewtwo, by the way. <_<
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:34:49 PM | message detail
man, I don't even know where to put Raiden.
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2007 6:36:30 PM | message detail
Ask Joe Blow who he uses in SSBM and he'll tell you Link, Roy, or Marth, too.

Why?

They don't look like Jigglypuff. It's not that the picture is unflattering -- it's the whole design, man.

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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2007 6:40:27 PM | message detail
Nidoran F (2006c) VS Ness (2005c)

Nidoran F has a strength of 16.64.
Ness has a strength of 20.53.

Ness wins with 59.47% of the vote!
A win of 19,247 with 101,576 total votes cast.

Mewtwo would beat Nidoran F 60%+ before SFF.

>_>
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Big Bob | Posted 8/2/2007 6:40:40 PM | message detail
I'm not going to argue about preferences; yeah, the tough-looking guys are the more popular ones. But cute and cuddly has still proven to be capable of strength; Yoshi and Kirby prove that.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:43:44 PM | message detail
Mewtwo would beat Nidoran F 60%+ before SFF.

okay. where would you put Mewtwo in the stats?
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redrocket | Posted 8/2/2007 6:46:22 PM | message detail
I'm not going to argue about preferences; yeah, the tough-looking guys are the more popular ones. But cute and cuddly has still proven to be capable of strength; Yoshi and Kirby prove that.

Yoshi and Kirby are actually the stars of their own freaking games.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 6:50:23 PM | message detail
oh, and also, don't forget that Ness is underrated and he's more than likely around the 23-24% area. this makes him get a doubling.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2007 7:00:06 PM | message detail
I actually don't see Mewtwo being that much stronger than Ness, but if a match were to happen between them I would take Mewtwo.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 7:14:41 PM | message detail
if you're close, SFF can make any difference in it.
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swirIdude | Posted 8/2/2007 7:15:26 PM | message detail
And if you're DK, SFF can ensure you'll never have a respectable showing!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 7:21:15 PM | message detail
Explain?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/2/2007 7:22:34 PM | message detail
Oh for the love of god, you guys are still arguing about Pokemon strength?

All the Raiden jibber-jabber from last topic was much better !
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2007 7:28:56 PM | message detail
Tissue has the right idea here!

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swirIdude | Posted 8/2/2007 7:31:51 PM | message detail
Explain?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=988

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1635
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2007 7:40:44 PM | message detail
I'm not seeing what you mean. All I said was that i they're close, any amount of SFF between Mewtwo and Ness changes the match's outcome completely.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/2/2007 7:46:16 PM | message detail
I do a lot to support Ness, but I'd probably take Mewtwo over him. Pokemon's fanbase is firmly above EB's, Mewtwo is more liked by the Pokemon fanbase than Ness by the SSB fanbase, and -- though I think most would say Ness is a better character in SSB/M than Mewtwo in SSBM -- Mewtwo is still a casual favorite for SSBM.

Ness would do respectable and wouldn't be blown out...but Mewtwo's got it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/2/2007 7:50:04 PM | message detail
Also, about Ike: I never saw a picture of him before today's update on SSBB and I've never played an FE game before, yet I nominated him. Why?

1) I figure he's still the best FE-rep when you ignore outside exposure like what Roy and Marth got. The SSBB site is also hardly going to do much for him outside of nominations...
2) ...speaking of which, I remember Ike doing well with nominations last year, so when I saw the update today and him already doing good in the rally-topic, I threw my hat in for the guy as well.

That said, I don't see him beating Captain Falcon before SSBB comes out. Even then...maybe not. I just want to see how a mostly-pure FE character does.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/2/2007 8:22:57 PM | message detail
I can't believe it's been more than 24 hours since the contest was announced, and I'm just finding out about it now. Time to go read everything that's happened since then, and remember nominate the PoP!

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/2/2007 8:30:20 PM | message detail
WTF why are we talking about Jigglypuff? Also, I'm sorry , but Mewtwo would totally take Ness in a close battle.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/2/2007 8:39:40 PM | message detail
I think we need more debate about that Zero/Magus/Knux/Dante 4 pack posted in the last topic. Hell, that entire division looks like it would be a *****

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/2/2007 8:40:19 PM | message detail
Dante over Magus unfortunately.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/2/2007 8:42:10 PM | message detail
Because Jiggly would be a powerhouse.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2007 8:43:26 PM | message detail
I would have to go with Knuckles > Zero
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/2/2007 9:00:43 PM | message detail
alright.... assuming this contest lets the Big 3 back in, we damn well better be seeing a Samus/Seph match, or someone is going to be losing a testicle (I'm looking at you Mr. Bacon), and you damn well better believe I'm taking Samus in that match.

With that out of the way, with all the talk about getting decently strong contestants back into the contest, why isn't anyone talking about Shadow? I mean, I like him as a much as the next board 8er (not at all ! !), but I'm throwing my support his way regardless.

As for the PoP, unfortunately it looks like he's not going to return, which really sucks, 'cause he totally could have won a match with all his support last year if it weren't for the female bracket sucking his seeding away. I'll never forgive ceej for that one. I still have 5 slots left to nominate too, and I have no clue who they're going to. Maybe I'll just whore 'em out for PoP noms.

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