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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/6/2007 8:58:12 PM | message detail
I remember someone saying that there was nothing noting that in the 2k5 nominations, either, though.

I could be wrong.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/6/2007 9:01:44 PM | message detail
...wasn't that point one of the first things mentioned when the nominations went up?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/6/2007 9:02:25 PM | message detail
Pretty sure in 2k5, the ToC was known before the contest.

Could be wrong though.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2007 9:04:56 PM | message detail
in 2005, no twist was mentioned. I'm pretty sure.
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__Mega64__ | Posted 8/6/2007 9:11:30 PM | message detail
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2007 9:12:14 PM | message detail
can anyone recall how long nominations were last year and the year before?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/6/2007 9:12:42 PM | message detail
No twist was known pre-contest, though people wondered why CJay made a bracket that Seph would so easily win. I think the most common theory was that the three champions would be removed all-together, but as I remember it, people mainly thought the contest would continue as usual.

I dunno if anything was announced at nominations though -- the above is just my recollection of the 2k5 contest before nominations were up.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2007 9:19:27 PM | message detail
After 2k4 there was a lot of talk of retiring the champions (Link and Cloud) from the bracket. After the villains contest many people were almost positive that Link, Cloud and Sephiroth will be removed. Plus CJayC told Ulti that there will be a twist in 2k5.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2007 9:22:14 PM | message detail
well, putting in the past winners would be a pretty dumb twist, so I expect either tag-team or 128. tag-team seems to strangely make more sense though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/6/2007 9:41:59 PM | message detail
2k5 it was guaranteed that the winners would be removed. 2k4 was too easy and Spring 2k5 was tailored for Sephy to win. I was very obvious going in that Ceej was planning that. He even mentioned in his post-2k4 post that it was too easy a bracket.

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/6/2007 9:55:26 PM | message detail
can anyone recall how long nominations were last year and the year before?

Spring 2007 - 27 days, 7 hours
Summer 2006 - 23 days, 1 hour
Spring 2006 - 31 days, 15 hours
Summer 2005 - 4 days, 1 hour
Spring 2005 - 6 days, 21 hours

It's been a little over 5 days since these nominations have opened.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 9:56:04 PM | message detail
Putting the past winners in would be kind of meh to me. Hurray for Clinkerothio tearing people apart right? :/
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/6/2007 9:56:14 PM | message detail
Its just a statue you ignorant child.

By the way, the easter bunny isnt real either.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 9:58:32 PM | message detail
I love you, TRE.

Hurray for Clinkerothio tearing people apart right?

Clink, definitely. Clinkeroth, almost definitely. Mario? I dunno.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 9:59:35 PM | message detail
Even if he doesn't tear people apart, he's got Super Mario Galaxy coming up, and even with MP3 coming out before that, I still see Samus getting SFF'd into the ground.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 10:03:18 PM | message detail
well, Samus has no chance. the question would be if Snake does. Mario didn't exactly look superhuman in that there Battle Royale.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:04:38 PM | message detail
Oh no doubt. Snake and Mario would be a good match. That's what we have a Tournament of Champions for. Yes Samus beat Snake, I don't care, Snake won the male bracket and should therefore just be a champ by default.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2007 10:07:59 PM | message detail
no, Snake didn't win anything. he shouldn't be retired, not until we actually see him win something. Samus shouldn't be retired either, honestly. plus, I think Snake is the new Sephiroth - you just don't know what's going to happen with each match.

I'm 90% sure Mario still beats Snake - he's got everything Samus had and then some - but I don't want to just hand him the title when he only beat Crono-54-46 and looked very beatable the year before.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:09:38 PM | message detail
Maybe your onto something. Perhaps we'll see if everyone is indeed in the bracket. I still say it's a waste to unleash them all just for Snake/Mario though.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:14:54 PM | message detail
The good thing about Snake is that he has nowhere to go but up from here. Last year was just a little taste of what he should be doing after MGS4 and Brawl, I think.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:16:14 PM | message detail
There's no way he's taking out Link. If he can take out Cloud and Sephiroth post MGS4 and SSBB, I will be jumping up and down. But there's no way he's ever beating Link. I just don't see it happening.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:19:28 PM | message detail
There's a sort of unwritten rule for these contests that should be assumed whenever we talk about boosts, large or small -- the ceiling for any character is a step below Link. I wasn't necessarily talking about overthrowing Link, even though Snake being the top dog here would be awesome, but getting up there in that Sephiroth and Cloud area. It won't happen this year, obviously, but if there's another character contest? I think he's got the stuff.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:20:23 PM | message detail
The only way Snake could EVER get to Link is if Nintendo just discontinued the Zelda franchise. Which is never happening.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:20:26 PM | message detail
Link occupies the top rung of the Nintendo ladder, so Snake will have to look elsewhere for support. Metal Gear Solid 4 will need to hit every console, sell 10 million+ copies, be widely hailed as the best game in years (if not ever), and spawn a movie and spin offs in order for Snake to simply keep the night vote from being a total borefest.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:21:27 PM | message detail
It's got the capability to do that if Konami just markets it right. Maybe not movies and spinoffs, but 10 million plus copies and on different consoles? Totally bro.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:22:52 PM | message detail
If Snake killed Link halfway through the next Zelda game and became the main character of the series afterward... he still wouldn't have a chance at beating him in one of these, but that'd be pretty awesome.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:23:57 PM | message detail
Okay. Time out, people. I didn't say anything about Snake kicking Link's ass -- we save that sorta thing for "way too much time on GameFAQs" dreams. I was just saying that Snake, moreso than any other character Link included, is the one character who's going to keep climbing in these contests for some time to come.


Oh, and that Metal Gear movie is actually happening!

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:23:59 PM | message detail
If Snake killed Link halfway through the next Zelda game and became the main character of the series afterward... he still wouldn't have a chance at beating him in one of these, but that'd be pretty awesome.

Ok come on if he did that he'd totally win then >_>
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:24:32 PM | message detail
I don't think MGS4 has the capacity to sell 10 million+, especially when its home console has a userbase of ~4 million. >_>
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:25:20 PM | message detail
I don't think MGS4 has the capacity to sell 10 million+, especially when its home console has a userbase of ~4 million. >_>

Konami has PLENTY of time to decide whether or not to put it on the 360 or not.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:25:20 PM | message detail
They don't call 'em system sellers for nothing!

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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:26:32 PM | message detail
Agreed. Link is too strong, but Snake is the best bet to take out Sephiroth or Cloud. Hell, after watching Steroid Mario flounder against Sephiroth a few years ago, I'd say he's the only bet for years to come.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:27:29 PM | message detail
The real question here is will Snake be able to beat Jay Solano?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:29:05 PM | message detail
Jay Solano will never be conquered. He could face a gauntlet of every popular video game character ever and destroy them with his pinky finger.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:31:06 PM | message detail
Solano's not man enough to stand up to The 'Stache.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:32:42 PM | message detail
He's got a point...Snake's Stache can probably CQC armored tanks.
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transience | Posted 8/6/2007 10:35:20 PM | message detail
Snake's never touching Cloud on this site.. not unless MGS keeps on going another 5-10 years and Cloud is completely left alone. and even then, I might be cautious and pick Cloud.

Sephiroth.. that's a possibility.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:36:32 PM | message detail
Cloud totally has the possibility of decreasing unless that FF7 remake happens.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:39:22 PM | message detail
I'd go a step beyond "possibility" and say that it's almost a certainty, irrespective of what Sephiroth gets in the meantime. Unless there's some sort of unforeseen shift back to Square -- which is terribly unlikely with how unproductive the company has been -- I don't see how Sephiroth holds anything in his corner that can stop the combination of the Nintendo bases' backing and Snake reprising his role as the main playable character throughout the duration of a Metal Gear game for the first time in ten years.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:43:11 PM | message detail
Ten years? MGS3 might as well have been Solid Snake >_>
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/6/2007 10:50:49 PM | message detail
Agreed. Link is too strong, but Snake is the best bet to take out Sephiroth or Cloud. Hell, after watching Steroid Mario flounder against Sephiroth a few years ago, I'd say he's the only bet for years to come.

Well, part of that depends on how big SMG is. If it's as big as SM64, Mario's chances of defeating Sephiroth are...very high. And with the power of the Wii, who knows?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:52:13 PM | message detail
I have much hope for SMG. It has the chance to best the best Mario plat former since M64 all right.
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transience | Posted 8/6/2007 10:53:05 PM | message detail
it better be, seeing as how its only competition is Sunshine.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:53:40 PM | message detail
lol Sunshine. Tremendous level design, not a big fan of cleaning stuff.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 10:57:16 PM | message detail
As much hope for this character contest as I have, we seriously do need a Game Contest soon though.
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ZFS | Posted 8/6/2007 10:59:17 PM | message detail
I won't bother going too much into it, but I really don't think so. It's almost impossible to play MGS3 and mistake who you're playing as for Solid Snake. People most definitely know who and what MGS3 was about -- and it wasn't Solid Snake. I can't recall back enough to remember what the game did for Snake the following year (I remember had that terrible down period during 2004, and then came back a bit in 2005, but I'd be hesistant to blame the rebound solely on MGS3), but I do remember Big Boss making the contest that year. Definite reason for that.

I don't want the discussion to continue and balloon into something it doesn't need to, but you just can't overlook that aspect of MGS4. It means more to Snake in a contest setting than anything he's had since Metal Gear Solid.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/6/2007 10:59:19 PM | message detail
Eh, putting it off another year isn't all bad. Just look at all the huge games we're getting within the next several months; most of these will likely make the contest.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/6/2007 11:01:32 PM | message detail
That's true. It's gonna be a much different field four years after the first one...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2007 11:01:56 PM | message detail
Mewtwo baby.
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hehe staats
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