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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/28/2007 9:55:45 PM | message detail
i don't think you can say pw isn't a FAA type of game. all you need is someone who gets a little frustrated over what to do next in the game to go check an faq and that happens plenty of the time in pw.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/29/2007 9:26:16 AM | message detail
*faq

i hate auto-correct

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 7/29/2007 9:30:44 AM | message detail
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/29/2007 9:31:20 AM | message detail
*semen

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transience | Posted 7/29/2007 9:32:32 AM | message detail
I only used a FAQ for PW1 during case five. everything else was pretty easy.

PW2 I used a FAQ a little more often because it was a bit more frustrating

that said, FF9 is FAQ bait and is dozens of times more popular than PW, yet Kuja is way below Phoenix in the stats

I'd take Kuja over Phoenix by the way
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/29/2007 9:34:03 AM | message detail
id take you out to dinner

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transience | Posted 7/29/2007 9:35:36 AM | message detail
I know
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 7/29/2007 9:37:24 AM | message detail
And yeah, I checked up a FAQ a few times when playing PW2.

As for Pheonix's strength...I'm not really sure. I feel like most of the "OMG PHOENIX WRIGHT" hype that was going on last year has died down a lot, which would lead me to believe that he wouldn't do as well (using the term well loosely), but then again, more people have been exposed to him over the past year with JFA coming out. Then there's T&T coming out in a few months...
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/29/2007 9:38:17 AM | message detail
i would expect sex btw
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/29/2007 10:19:32 PM | message detail
I WONDER WHAT'S FOR DINNER.

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TimJab | Posted 7/29/2007 10:32:45 PM | message detail
PW lost to Gordon Freeman. He'll never win a match...not because of lack of strength, but because he'll always be the lower seed. Unless there's a contest with a massive field so he gets paired with someone like Billy Lee from Double Dragon he can't win.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/30/2007 12:24:40 AM | message detail
I WONDER WHAT'S FOR DINNER.

MORE MEAT!!!!
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therealmnm | Posted 7/30/2007 5:44:10 PM | message detail
Why are we talking about Phoenix Wright?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/30/2007 9:07:15 PM | message detail
He owns?

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Haste_2 | Posted 7/30/2007 9:12:52 PM | message detail
'nuff said.

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therealmnm | Posted 7/30/2007 9:14:59 PM | message detail
Okay, correction. Why are we talking about Phoenix Wright's contest strength????
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ZFS | Posted 7/30/2007 9:16:48 PM | message detail
Someone mentioned Bomberman and it just went downhill from there.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/30/2007 11:18:38 PM | message detail
Man and people gave me **** for that fourpack last topic dog. Bringing up stuff bout Bomberman and Phoenix Wright is just whack.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/30/2007 11:21:52 PM | message detail
I'm starting to miss Bomberman in the contests.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/30/2007 11:23:19 PM | message detail
Me too, but he's a total jobber.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 7/31/2007 11:32:31 AM | message detail
well people might think PW has a shot at Bomberman, no one was coming close to touching Kratos ! !

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/31/2007 1:56:41 PM | message detail
so.. what does anyone make of MP3 in today's poll?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/31/2007 1:57:50 PM | message detail
ok EC, whatever you say playa

and that means that Samus is gonna get a boost out the wazoo that's all
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/31/2007 2:00:26 PM | message detail
Today's poll...doesn't mean much for MP3. It's doing a little worse than I expected, considering the lack of Nintendo competition.

Meanwhile, Bioshock is doing much better than I expected, especially compared to Blue Dragon. Funny to see a WRPG/FPS beating a Sakaguchi JRPG.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/31/2007 2:01:17 PM | message detail
Of course Bioshock is doing well. It's been hyped incredibly. Blue Dragon really hasn't, although it too looks good.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/31/2007 2:06:31 PM | message detail
Mac took the words out of my mouth.
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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 2:20:31 PM | message detail
if you're going to take anything out of this poll, it's that Madden's doing better against all these games than it did against Mario Bros.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/31/2007 2:22:46 PM | message detail
That's not really all that surprising. Put Mario/Mario 3/SMW/YI/SM64 into pretty much any poll and their combined %age is going to be at 80+ (polls like "favorite Final Fantasy" are obvious exceptions <_<).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2007 5:08:33 PM | message detail
that said, FF9 is FAQ bait and is dozens of times more popular than PW, yet Kuja is way below Phoenix in the stats

I'd take Kuja over Phoenix by the way


I've said it before and I'll say it again, the mainstream hated FF9, and alot of the series' fans hated it as well.

In fact, of the numbered Final Fantasies, I'd say 9 would be the second least liked overall, next to 2 of course.

As for Zero/Kratos, I'd like to see that match, if only to see Kratos get overrated to hell against a Zero that probably hasn't dropped nearly as far as some people are saying.

Look at all of Zero's previous matches in contest history. Any time he's gone up against somebody not from Nintendo, he's rocked face. It's only against Mario and Luigi that he's really disappointed, meaning that there's probably some overlap there. Same thing goes for any Mega Man/near elite matches in the next contest.

Nobody is going to be breaking the Noble Nine this year methinks. The only guys close enough have little going for them (Vincent, Tifa, Zelda).

Hell, barring an FF7 remake, I'd say the only one likely to break the NN will be Sora after Kingdom Hearts 3.

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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/31/2007 6:00:06 PM | message detail
Didn't Zero sort of underperform against Lloyd in 2k5, or was it the other way around?
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/31/2007 6:20:54 PM | message detail
Based on Wesker, he was supposed to do 2-3% better on Lloyd, but nothing massive. He may have dropped a little, but I doubt it's anything major.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 7/31/2007 6:26:36 PM | message detail
Have we sort of established that Zero has been at least somewhat overrated... in the stats and in general, I guess since teh past year or 2?

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/31/2007 6:32:48 PM | message detail
I've heard some people say Wesker/Kefka was a little weird and had Wesker be a little underrated.

I also don't understand why Wesker's expected to do even better in the character contest that followed. even behind Mario/Zero.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/31/2007 7:20:18 PM | message detail
Random insignificant thought: do you think any pokemon could be stronger than Mewtwo in the contest?

Jigglypuff and Wobbuffet come to mind, as they were prominent and popular characters in the TV show, yet aren't quited as whored out as Pikachu. If my suspicions are confirmed and Lucario is playable in Brawl, he has a chance to do some damage.

And Brock. Everybody loves Brock.
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ZFS | Posted 7/31/2007 7:22:53 PM | message detail
Jigglypuff and Wobbuffet come to mind, as they were prominent and popular characters in the TV show

That almost seems like grounds to be significantly worse.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 7/31/2007 7:27:25 PM | message detail
I've always though that Pikachu would be the ceiling for any Pokemon that happened to get into a contest. I guess I'm against the majority there, though, as it seems most people think Mewtwo would take that spot.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/31/2007 7:28:42 PM | message detail
I can't see any Pokémon outside of R/B/Y being stronger than Mewtwo, and Jigglypuff doesn't seem like it has any casual appeal (it's like Kirby, except it sings instead of sucks, and it's down+B in SSB/M doesn't do anything!) Brock would be basing pretty much all of his strength off of the TV show, which seems a bit iffy.

I remember Charizard being mentioned by someone when this came up before, and I think that's about as close as any Pokémon character will come to Mewtwo.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/31/2007 7:30:07 PM | message detail
Well, Jigglypuff stopped appearing a LONG time ago, but whenever she appeared, she always shined.

Wobbuffet appears in almost every episode now just as part of Team Rocket's comic relief. He's never really the focus, since he hardly ever battles, and isn't as iconic as Pikachu, but any decent pokemon trainer knows that he's a force to be reckoned with in the games.

Plus both characters were in Melee, and it's only likely they'll be back in Brawl..
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/31/2007 7:31:10 PM | message detail
and it's down+B in SSB/M doesn't do anything!

I hope you're being sarcastic here. I can't really sense it for some reason.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/31/2007 7:31:23 PM | message detail
(it's like Kirby, except it sings instead of sucks, and it's down+B in SSB/M doesn't do anything!)

...If I had the chance, I would beat the living hell out of you with Jigglypuff. My friends fear her and sometimes specifically request that I don't use her. She's a tough little *****, despite what you think.
trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 7:32:20 PM | message detail
eh, nominate Mewtwo or don't nominate any Pokemon
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ZFS | Posted 7/31/2007 7:33:37 PM | message detail
Tran's got the right idea.


You can put me down in the "do not want" camp when it comes to any Pokemon.

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trannyscience | Posted 7/31/2007 7:34:36 PM | message detail
I'd probably nom Mewtwo just to find out what happens, but these other fringe pokeymen can get the hell out of my contest until we get the obvious #1 on the food chain
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/31/2007 7:34:42 PM | message detail
I'll definitely nominate Mewtwo, though.
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/31/2007 7:44:28 PM | message detail
Ummm. Yes. That was a joke.

Though the fact that I needed to clarify sort of proves my point that casuals probably don't like her too much.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/31/2007 8:04:32 PM | message detail
what do you guys think about Midna? think she'll be stronger than at least Tingle? my theory's that she's some high-upper mid-carder at the highest.
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ZFS | Posted 7/31/2007 8:07:16 PM | message detail
I think you can safely say that Tingle is her absolute-worst-day-ever-floor. Not even so much because of what Midna brings to the table, but just as a product of not being Tingle. If you're below Tingle, you probably don't need to be in a contest.

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therealmnm | Posted 7/31/2007 8:56:58 PM | message detail
Have we sort of established that Zero has been at least somewhat overrated... in the stats and in general, I guess since teh past year or 2?

Overrated? No. He's probably declined some since Capcom hasn't done anything for him for the glory days outside of the Mega Man Zero series which didn't get enough exposure as it should have. But it doesn't make him overrated. Overrated is holding someone in high esteem for years off of one good match they had! Zero has had tons of legit matches.

He definitely has shown a weakness to the Mario Bros. though, and he certainly isn't getting any more popular. There's no reason for newer gamers to be fans of him at all nowadays. Why can't we have a Zero May Cry or something. :(
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 7/31/2007 8:58:43 PM | message detail
Midna should do pretty good.. I mean, she's a likeable character from ZELDA.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/31/2007 9:23:08 PM | message detail
I wouldn't mind seeing Charizard in a contest. He'd definitely be the #2 Pokemon behind Mewtwo. But then, put him in and then other people would be clamoring to get their favorite Poke in. I still can't believe that we had Nidoran F in a contest.
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