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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 442

Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/17/2007 4:57:28 PM | message detail
Let's face it guys.

The Noble Nine is not gonna job. I was hoping it would several times the past two or three contests, but it never happened and it probably never will >_>
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dethfdddddh | Posted 6/17/2007 5:32:13 PM | message detail
While the noble 9 might not be jobbing anytime soon, will FF VII and its characters be perpetual powerhouses? Aeris and Seph looked like they were feeling the burn last year, and I can't help but wonder how Vincent and Tifa are gonna do now that DoC/AC have been largely forgotten...
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Rufus Shinra had Darknation eat me for lunch in the Guru contest.
Lady Ashe | Posted 6/17/2007 5:33:41 PM | message detail
...Seph? What was wrong with Seph?

And uh, Leon, are we going to have a nomination tournament for games, like, ever?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2007 5:46:53 PM | message detail
And uh, Leon, are we going to have a nomination tournament for games, like, ever?

1. Tell me when we're having a Games Contest
2. Tell me why we need one. If CJayC removes the lousy stipulations from the first contest, we're going to see plenty of new games.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 6/17/2007 5:50:15 PM | message detail
What were the stipulations from the first contest?

But uh, there might be certain games that we think may get snubbed that would do well in the tourney, or we could try to find Jay Solano in game form, or blah. =/

And it just feels like a Game Contest is coming. Stop making fun of me. D:
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2007 5:53:47 PM | message detail
You could only nominate one game per system (which is the main reason why Halo got a 1 seed), and no two games from the same series could be in the same division, which is why you didn't see Final Fantasy VIII (FFVII and FFT were considered different series, apparently). Oh, and if you get rid of divisions by generation, new games will increase as well.
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"I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier
*waits for Games Contest announcement*
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2007 6:28:34 PM | message detail
I'm curious...given Mega Man's Nintendo connection (and the additional Capcom connection >_>) shouldn't he have overperformed on Ryu by at least as much as Bowser did?

You'd think Mega would have stomped Zero to the ground in 2k4, but it ended up being a surprisingly close match. Mega Man seems to have his own wonky type of SFF, where he has no trouble beating down a green dinosaur he's only loosely connected to, but can't SFF his own sidekick.

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2007 6:29:06 PM | message detail
And also how said sidekick seems to have alot of trouble with italian plumbers

TuRtLe
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2007 6:35:02 PM | message detail
Zero was designed to be a cooler X, so of course it's going to be easier for him to resist SFF from Mega Man. It's the same reason I suspect Sonic wouldn't get SFF'd hardcore by Mario and why Shadow was able to do so well. Sonic was always pushed as a cooler Mario.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2007 6:49:14 PM | message detail
Damn it, now I really want to see a Mario/Sonic meetup

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2007 6:51:46 PM | message detail
You know, I was just thinking about it, and this "cool factor" could explain alot of things in this contest.

Such as how Sephiroth can pretty much go toe to toe with Cloud.

TuRtLe
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ZFS | Posted 6/17/2007 8:38:37 PM | message detail
Sephiroth went toe-to-toe with Cloud, like, once.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2007 8:44:23 PM | message detail
And then he went toe to toe with the legendary Solid Snake!
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/17/2007 8:50:20 PM | message detail
Both times rightfully on the losing side!
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jonthomson | Posted 6/18/2007 2:51:33 AM | message detail
All this SFA talk has really put me in the mood to go back and play it

What, Shaq Fu?

OT: Daft Punk live is possibly the greatest thing ever
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Haste_2 | Posted 6/18/2007 4:28:16 AM | message detail
Since when has Sephiroth gone toe-to-toe with Cloud?

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
GyratingGrandma | Posted 6/18/2007 6:11:35 AM | message detail
2K3.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/18/2007 8:55:02 AM | message detail
I'm making this post because everyone will be all like "oh hey new CSAD post wonder what it is" and then they'll realize I just totally wasted their time. Aww yeah.

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swirIdude | Posted 6/18/2007 8:59:18 AM | message detail
Curses!
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Haste_2 | Posted 6/18/2007 9:09:40 AM | message detail
2K5:

Link's % on Sephiroth: 54.94%
Link's % on Cloud: 52.44%

Sephiroth hasn't really fallen in relation to Cloud.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2007 10:07:05 AM | message detail
Yeah, 2004 was just a weird year, but Sephiroth probably isn't ever beating Cloud.
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transience | Posted 6/18/2007 10:10:59 AM | message detail
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transience | Posted 6/18/2007 10:11:44 AM | message detail
er, whoops

I dunno, I think of 2004 as the "proper" result - in 2003 Cloud beats Link so the Link fans get mad and vote for Sephiroth. in 2005 Link beats Cloud so the Cloud fans get mad and vote for Sephiroth. 2004 is the only one that didn't have Cloud/Link prior and the result is a bit different.

*shrug*
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2007 10:15:59 AM | message detail
Eh, I've never been a proponent of the "Revenge Vote" theory myself.
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transience | Posted 6/18/2007 10:20:38 AM | message detail
I don't think much of it either, but it's only a couple percent so it's not like it's all that significant. it could be chance. doesn't really matter either way.
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xyzzy
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Haste_2 | Posted 6/18/2007 10:31:48 AM | message detail
Well, I'd consider the SC2K5 proportion to be correct (Mario/Sephiroth predicted Link/Sephiroth almost perfectly), and that if there WAS any existing revenge votes... Sephiroth's doing better than SC2K5 expectations by about .5% in SC2K3 could be attributed to that. =P

And, Sephiroth did worse in SC2K4 because he was weaker than year, in my opinion.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
transience | Posted 6/18/2007 10:33:09 AM | message detail
I dunno, it's Sephiroth. trying to figure out how strong he is in comparison to others is a mess since he always supernovas the stats.
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xyzzy
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/18/2007 10:38:49 AM | message detail
are we now trying to realize put Sephiroth's strength in numbers, I thought we agreed a long time ago (like in 2004) that Seph hates numbers. Link and Cloud will always be the only ones who can beat him in a 1VS1 poll, and Seph needs something really big to win over Cloud (like being the main villain in a new FF game where you can't find Cloud anywhere)
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 6/18/2007 2:25:49 PM | message detail
I'll tell you who screws with numbers. His name is Solid Snake.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2007 2:35:11 PM | message detail
*Solid ****
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 6/18/2007 4:04:40 PM | message detail
Yeah that too
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/18/2007 4:06:31 PM | message detail
I challenge you to name 5 reoccuring characters that have been extremely consistant,

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/18/2007 4:07:57 PM | message detail
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Knuckles

TuRtLe
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 6/18/2007 4:09:11 PM | message detail
Link and Cloud consistently kick everyone else's ass. That's three counting Knuckles.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2007 4:45:18 PM | message detail
Last I saw, Cloud got his ass kicked in 2k2 by da plumma!!!
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ZFS | Posted 6/18/2007 4:46:16 PM | message detail
mario is a dirty cheater like that

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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/18/2007 4:54:46 PM | message detail
Hey HM, did you make an NPD sales topic on Thursday? I'm searching the boards and can't find it anywhere... surely it didn't purge already?

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Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest!
charmander6000 | Posted 6/18/2007 5:52:10 PM | message detail
Here are the vote totals of each character from every single contest since 2k2.

1. Link - 1,591,504
2. Sephiroth - 1,477,745
3. Solid Snake - 1,477,724
4. Samus Aran - 1,458,319
5. Cloud Strife - 1,367,126
6. Mega Man - 1,352,665
7. Crono - 1,332,508
8. Mario Mario - 1,202,863
9. Sonic the Hedgehog - 1,140,151
10. Bowser - 796,383
11. Ganondorf Dragmire - 682,912
12. Squall Leonhart - 640,250
13. Zelda - 627,580
14. Yoshi - 573,063
15. Dante Sparda - 571,931
16. Sora - 548,438
17. Ryu Hoshi - 540,853
18. Auron - 540,314
19. Kirby - 526,015
20. Tifa Lockheart - 513,800
21. Aeris Gainsborough - 506,131
22. Luigi Mario - 498,532
23. Zero - 486,265
24. Master Chief - 415,843
25. Alucard Tepes - 413,881
26. Yuna - 404,207
27. Vincent Valentine - 351,892
28. Knuckles the Echidna - 346,934
29. Tidus - 343,481
30. Donkey Kong - 329.759
31. Tommy Vercetti - 313,060
32. Jill Valentine - 302,114
33. Kefka Palazzo - 291,945
34. Lara Croft - 287,079
35. Magus - 285,344
36. KOS-MOS - 274,139
37. Rikku - 244,059
38. Gordon Freeman - 242,215
39. Pac-Man - 242,133
40. Diablo - 231,052
41. Scorpion - 216,604
42. Frog - 209,716
43. Princess Peach Toadstool - 190,910
44. Chun-Li - 185,364
45. Liquid Snake - 167,259
46. Ness - 164,140
47. Shadow the Hedgehog - 163,368
48. Max Payne - 157,149
49. Revolver Ocelot - 149,908
50. Miles “Tails” Prower - 144,122
51. Leon S. Kennedy - 141,801
52. Ryu Hayabusa - 141,340
53. Bomberman - 133,005
54. Sub-Zero - 119,683
55. Sam Fisher - 118,729
56. CATS - 116,862
57. Vivi Ornitier - 116,671
58. Vyse - 116,244
59. Kairi - 110,334
60. Terra Branford - 109,795
61. Crash Bandicoot - 108,602
62. Joanna Dark - 104,635
63. Ryo Hazuki - 104,275
64. Fox McCloud - 103,648
65. Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik - 103,447
66. Duke Nukem - 102,224
67. Riku - 101,780
68. Ada Wong - 99,421
69. Albert Wesker - 97,993
70. The Boss - 97,721
71. Kratos (GoW) - 90,159
72. M. Bison - 86,025
73. Claire Redfield - 79,912
74. Pikachu - 77,118
75. Dr. Albert Wily - 75,906
76. Lavos - 73,403
77. Conker - 72,515
78. Master Hand - 70,835
79. Lloyd Irving - 70,311
80. Aya Brea - 67,115
81. Sarah Kerrigan - 61,980
82. Morrigan Aensland - 61,257
83. Vergil - 58,473
84. Ansem - 56,664
85. Kasumi - 55,299
86. Ken Masters - 54,844
87. Laharl - 53,317
88. Sigma - 52,654
89. Kyo Kusanagia - 50,442
90. Felix - 50,231
91. Tina Armstrong - 48,810
92. Strider Hiryu - 47,932
93. Raziel - 47,499
94. The Prince of Persia - 46,729
95. Phoenix Wright - 46,204
96. Carl “CJ” Johnson - 44,644
97. Sheena Fujibayashi - 43,275
98. Celes Chere - 42,565
99. Ramza Beoulve - 42,482
100. Cortana - 39,944
101. Ratchet - 38,701
102. Luca Blight - 38,001
103. Serious Sam - 37,715
104. Kratos Aurion - 37,162
105. Wario - 36,721
106. Viewtiful Joe - 36,102
107. Amy Rose - 35,441
108. Axel - 35,340
109. Terry Bogard - 35,245
110. Sin - 35,231
111. Kite - 35,068
112. Nemesis - 35,051
113. Marle - 34,779
114. Kuja Tribal - 34,009
115. Jak - 32,733
116. Andross - 31,732
117. Mother Brain - 31,468
118. Ridley - 31,438
119. Tingle - 30,176
120. Ivy Valentine - 30,046

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/18/2007 5:52:49 PM | message detail
121. Captain Douglas Jay Falcon - 29,306
122. Guybrush Threepwood - 28,470
123. Kain - 28,436
124. HK-47 - 28,392
125. King of all Cosmos - 27,787
126. Lenneth Valkyrie - 27,704
127. Big Boss - 27,000
128. Isaac - 26,560
129. Mithos Yggdrasil - 26,151
130. Ultros - 25,907
131. Agent 47 - 25,796
132. PaRappa the Rapper - 25,736
133. Roll - 25,501
134. Geno - 25,022
135. Jade - 23,669
136. Protoman - 22,993
137. Abe - 22,760
138. Ghaleon - 22,713
139. Mr. Driller - 22,696
140. Zidane Tribal - 22,636
141. Cecil Harvey - 22,267
142. Alyx Vance - 21,850
143. Jin Kazama - 21,715
144. Albedo Piasora - 21,337
145. Nidoran F - 21,180
146. Ulala - 21,111
147. Bub - 20,016
148. Iori Yagami - 19,714
149. Chop Chop Master Onion - 19,512
150. Soma Cruz - 19,487
151. Princess Daisy - 18,423
152. Spyro the Dragon - 18,186
153. Raiden - 17,480
154. Q*Bert - 17,453
155. Kazuya Mishima - 17,282
156. Carmen Sandiego - 16,578
157. Goemon - 15,839
158. Officer Frank Tenpenny - 15,285
159. Simon Belmont - 14,906
160. Tom Nook - 14,631
161. Manny Calavera - 14,576
162. Earthworm Jim - 14,406
163. Servbot - 13,777
164. Ramirez - 13,720
165. JC Denton - 12,847
166. Pyramid Head - 12,606
167. Sly Cooper - 12,243
168. Dirk the Daring - 12,109
169. Akira Yuki - 12,057
170. Giygas - 11,966
171. Captain Olimar - 11,678
172. Kane - 11,476
173. Mr. Resetti - 11,400
174. Pitfall Harry - 11,292
175. Little Mac - 11,076
176. Yuri Hyuga - 10,813
177. AiAi - 8802
178. Gabe Logan - 8602
179. Ms. Pac-Man - 5257
180. Tanner - 4492

Interesting Facts:

- There are 180 characters that have appeared on a GameFAQs contest
- 67 are above 100,000
- The Noble 9 are in the top 9 spots with 451,353 votes separating first from ninth
- Bowser is the highest non-Noble 9 character, but is still 343,768 votes away from Sonic
- The entire Noble 9 added together beats the bottom 155 characters (Yuna and down) remember there are 180 characters.
- Link’s vote total is higher than the bottom 74 characters (Amy Rose and down)
- Princess Peach is the highest new character.
- Felix is the highest character that was in only one match.
- Serious Sam is the lowest character to have made the second round
- Dr. Robotnik is the lowest character to have made the third round
- Scorpion is the lowest character to have made the fourth round (having less than Diablo by 14,448 votes)
- Guybrush is the lowest character to have been in more than one match
- CATS is the highest ranked character without a win
- Knuckles is the highest ranked character without making it to round 3.
- If it wasn’t for the Villain Contest Sephiroth would rank eighth, Bowser would be twelfth and Ganondorf would be twenty sixth.
- The bottom three characters to have appeared in every single contest are CATS, Gordon Freeman and Tidus.

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trannyscience | Posted 6/18/2007 5:54:17 PM | message detail
2. Sephiroth - 1,477,745
3. Solid Snake - 1,477,724

eat it gamefaqs
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/18/2007 5:56:16 PM | message detail
nice stuff
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swirIdude | Posted 6/18/2007 5:57:08 PM | message detail
The bottom three characters to have appeared in every single contest are CATS, Gordon Freeman and Tidus.

HAW HAW!
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/18/2007 5:59:41 PM | message detail
2. Sephiroth - 1,477,745
3. Solid Snake - 1,477,724

eat it gamefaqs


I was surprised to see it so close.
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The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic. ~Joe Stalin, comment to Churchill at Potsdam, 1945
trannyscience | Posted 6/18/2007 6:01:00 PM | message detail
blame the TOC for keeping it so close.
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zizzy
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/18/2007 6:01:14 PM | message detail
or the jews
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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
trannyscience | Posted 6/18/2007 6:01:46 PM | message detail
...or the jews.
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zizzy
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/18/2007 6:02:17 PM | message detail
its they way jesus would have wanted it
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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
trannyscience | Posted 6/18/2007 6:03:59 PM | message detail
he was a solid snake fan after all
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zizzy
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/18/2007 6:04:27 PM | message detail
and you do mean solid snake m i rite

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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
trannyscience | Posted 6/18/2007 6:05:18 PM | message detail
why else would he banish sephoth like that
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zizzy
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