GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 442
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 10:03:45 PM | message detail |
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Huzzah for controversial stealing of topics during the offseason when it's not necessary! *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left): http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/ *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones! http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 10 Lists: http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html Aprosenf's Poll Script: http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt GameFAQs' Top 100 Games http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10 Manual Poll Updater: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php Balthier > Vivi --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/13/2007 10:10:06 PM | message detail |
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Rampardos > Pikachu --- "You can see by this bar that our bar is bigger than the bars that other companies have." - Reggie (Penny Arcade) |
| transience | Posted 6/13/2007 10:12:15 PM | message detail |
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HEY CHUM WHY SO SOON DO YOU MAKE THIS TOPIC --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/14/2007 8:18:49 PM | message detail |
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how in the world are we getting through topics without a contest --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2007 9:01:45 PM | message detail |
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Wario/Ness discussion. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/14/2007 9:05:52 PM | message detail |
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Yay, finally I spot a topic that's low enough that I don't feel obligated to sludge through pages of arguing. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2007 9:14:06 PM | message detail |
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*hurries up and floods the topic with arguments so BT doesn't read anymore* --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/14/2007 9:20:56 PM | message detail |
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Man, I can't think of any good matches anymore. It's like we've seen everything five times already. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2007 9:23:14 PM | message detail |
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Oh, there are still plenty of good matches out there. We just need to see them in a bracket. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/14/2007 9:36:26 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to see something like Zero vs Knux or Magus. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 6/14/2007 10:53:59 PM | message detail |
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Ok seriously. I'm so ****ing bored lately. We need a contest or something to keep me occupied. Desperately. --- Official Greatest GSB User Mike Awesome Tourney Winner WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:27:01 PM | message detail |
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To continue with the Kratos/Shadows talk, I believe once the trilogy of
God of War is said and done he'll be on par with Dante and the like.
Would I take him over Knuckles or Magus? Not right now, no. Unless
Chrono Trigger characters continue to drop, then maybe over Magus once
the trilogy is completed. Would I take Kratos over Leon? Thats a shady
one...but Kratos over Shadow, something about that just sounds right.
Especially considering how poorly Shadow's spinoff game did. --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2007 1:28:45 PM | message detail |
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I wonder if Shadow getting his own high-profile game will slow the Shadow = Sonic votes. assuming that's what they are. --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:33:31 PM | message detail |
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All I know is I can verify that game totally blew. Now so did DMC2 but
that didn't really affect Dante too horribly if I recall right. But
Shadow doesn't have three games of him on his own to back him up. All
he's got otherwise than Shadow the Hedgehog is Sonic Adventure 2 and
the "omg Shadow is a black Sonic" factor. --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/15/2007 1:35:59 PM | message detail |
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I haven't played GoW so manybe no one should listen to me, but I doubt
that Kratos will ever be more than just a middle tier character who
might win a match soon. We have already seen that Masterchief is a
fading character in these contests, I see the same happening to Kratos.
And lets be honest about Kratos. If you haven't played GoW, there's nothing that makes you want to vote for him. Blad men with swords will never be as attractive as spiky hair dudes with swords, emo dudes with a sword, elves with a sword, vampires with a sword, A half demon with a sword or old men with sunglasses and a sword. But as I said before I haven't play GoW, so I have no idea how awesome/lame Kratos really is, but his boring looks should hurt him, --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:37:52 PM | message detail |
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That logic totally makes no sense >_> --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2007 1:43:50 PM | message detail |
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Kratos is at least as visually appealing as Alucard, and he's never had a problem. and he's essentially only got one game. --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/15/2007 1:45:17 PM | message detail |
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No way, Alucard is a lot more attractive than Kratos. <_< --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/15/2007 1:46:06 PM | message detail |
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Alucard looks like Sephiroth, of course that won't help him on this site >_> --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2007 1:46:57 PM | message detail |
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well if you're voting based on hotness then Yuri Hyuga wins 2k7 --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/15/2007 1:48:24 PM | message detail |
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Yuri looks like one of the smosh dudes >_> --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:53:11 PM | message detail |
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Mario is a fat plumber with overalls. Look how far he gets. MYTH BUSTED! --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2007 1:55:01 PM | message detail |
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EC has Mario/Peach sex dreams, be careful what you say ..okay that's just EC but whatever --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:56:00 PM | message detail |
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I bet Ulti does too... >_> --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/15/2007 1:56:49 PM | message detail |
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Yeah that's just EC, the rest of us dreams about Mario + Luigi + Yoshi. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 1:57:36 PM | message detail |
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if you like plummer on donkey dinosaur action sure --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/15/2007 1:58:36 PM | message detail |
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if you like plummer on donkey dinosaur action sure If I didn't like that, then I wouldn't like Super Mario World ;) --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. |
| swirIdude | Posted 6/15/2007 2:22:35 PM | message detail |
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Aw yeah represent SMW --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Dude, the Romans didn't slap two pieces of stone together, minus adhesive, and call it a day. ~WVI |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/15/2007 3:09:18 PM | message detail |
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Catching up with a few things: Kratos would beat a few of those guys, yeah. Hell, Leon's already ranked ahead of Zero, and after GoW2, I definitely take Kratos over Leon. lol x-stats Thats a shady one...but Kratos over Shadow, something about that just sounds right. Especially considering how poorly Shadow's spinoff game did. Since when did how good a Sonic team game is determine how much their popularity rises (or drops)? Last I checked, most of the recent Sonic games absolutely blew, yet he's as strong as ever. I seriously doubt that Shadow hasn't boosted since the last time we've seen him. Remember that age-old DMC2 argument? --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 6/15/2007 3:17:22 PM | message detail |
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I anticipate Shadow being *much* stronger from the last time we saw
him... I'm talking disgustingly strong. I don't see him losing to
Knuckles, so... As for Kratos... while I wouldn't bet on it and it'd probably be even more disgusting to me, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him surpass Dante by the next contest. Both the GoW games come off to me as more popular than DMC and DMC3 here, which means in theory Dante's just working off DMC2 and his character design to put him ahead. I couldn't put much stock in the former and the latter is something Kratos is no slouch in, either (though I guess he fails to grab the "Sephy look-alike votes". How close do you think Yoshi is to Mega Man? How much stronger is he than Ryu? I take Kratos to beat Ryu, Alucard, and well over half the field next contest... so really, I have to consider this. GoW2 is just insanely popular right now, and Kratos is getting every smidgeon of benefit he can from that. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/15/2007 3:30:51 PM | message detail |
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I haven't played GoW so manybe no one should listen to me, but I
doubt that Kratos will ever be more than just a middle tier character
who might win a match soon. We have already seen that Masterchief is a
fading character in these contests, I see the same happening to Kratos. You're totally wrong. Kratos is on the exact same path as Dante. In fact, Kratos 2k6 actually looked stronger than Dante did after his first game in SC2k2. Your comparison to Master Chief is baseless. And how is Master Chief fading? Are you going by his x-stats values or something? We all know he's non-linear... But close matches with Frog, Donkey Kong, and Sub-Zero don't seem like someone who is fading to me. Master Chief has remained in the same range of strength. And lets be honest about Kratos. If you haven't played GoW, there's nothing that makes you want to vote for him. Blad men with swords will never be as attractive as spiky hair dudes with swords, emo dudes with a sword, elves with a sword, vampires with a sword, A half demon with a sword or old men with sunglasses and a sword. You don't have to have played God of War to know who Kratos is, especially coming from a game as popular as God of War. Gamers aren't idiots. God of War is all over the place. You could not have played God of War and still see Kratos and say "Hey, that's the badass dude from God of War". And I don't see how Kratos's design isn't appealing to the average gamer. Bad ass Spartan dude with blades on chains. Kratos spells nothing but casual appeal. Hell, I would say they might have over done it with all the random yelling, smashing skulls, and cheesy ultra-stylish moves. No, he doesn't do it with coolness a la Dante, but replace that coolness with a blunt badass attitude, and the average gamer will still draw the same conclusion "Hey, that guy kicks ass". --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 6/15/2007 5:15:35 PM | message detail |
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EC has Mario/Peach sex dreams, be careful what you say Mario/Daisy. Day-Zee --- Cheer Up Emo Kids. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/15/2007 8:41:26 PM | message detail |
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Since when did how good a Sonic team game is determine how much
their popularity rises (or drops)? Last I checked, most of the recent
Sonic games absolutely blew, yet he's as strong as ever. I seriously
doubt that Shadow hasn't boosted since the last time we've seen him. Remember that age-old DMC2 argument? I know, thats why I totally clarified that if you read the rest of my post :) --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2007 10:25:13 PM | message detail |
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Kratos would beat a few of those guys, yeah. You'd take him to overcome the deficit against Ryu and beat him this year? Kratos is boosting, but I just don't see it being THAT large, I don't care how big GOW2 is. The rest of the guys I mentioned are essentially at Ryu's level or higher. lol x-stats LOL 45% on Bowser > 46% on Luigi I'm sure I'll hear the "Zero collapses against Nintendo" argument or some such, but I'll take Leon over Zero, especially with RE4 Wii Edition coming out next week to help him out even more, as if he needs it. As for Kratos... while I wouldn't bet on it and it'd probably be even more disgusting to me, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him surpass Dante by the next contest. You see him going even with Yoshi? I don't. Sure, Riku got 45% on him, and you'd have to think Kratos could do better, but I still don't see him breaking 49% there. I don't see GOW2 doing wonders for him like some people here are thinking. That's a large boost you're calling for. *looks at the stats to see the highest ranked character I'd take him over* Huh...According to this, Kratos isn't that far from Zero right now. Then again, I don't trust Snake/Sonic, so I don't trust that closeness. I'm sure HaRRicH is going to argue the point, but way too much looks wrong to me if Crono and Mega Man are equals. Of course, I've been wrong about this kind of stuff before, but last year's stats are practically unusable to me anyway. There are just way too many problems with it, and the main problem is that we can't spot what's causing the problems with any certainty. I'd have to look at Kratos in a bracket before I decide what I'll do with him. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/15/2007 11:46:12 PM | message detail |
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Kratos over Shadow is definitely one of those things that just seems
right to me. I've seen people throw out some names like Ryu, Zero, and
so on, but I wouldn't take Shadow over any of them. I'd take the chance
there with Kratos, because it's not like that one is a blowout at all.
Kratos with GoW2 helping him should be a beast. It's everything people
loved about Kratos in GoW1 taken to the next level. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2007 11:47:10 PM | message detail |
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Again, I'll believe a huge boost when I see it. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/15/2007 11:48:38 PM | message detail |
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If anyone's going to get a huge boost this year, it's Kratos. Given how
successful GoW2 has been already, much quicker than GoW1, I'll bank on
it being big. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2007 11:51:47 PM | message detail |
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I just have a hard time seeing him top perennial favorites so easily. Maybe it's just me. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 6/15/2007 11:56:43 PM | message detail |
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It's really just that new, strong characters don't really come along
that often as far as the history of this contest has gone. The last
"true" newblood of more than decent strength before Kratos... probably
have to say Master Chief, and he's got a MILLION problems holding him
back as far as this site is concerned. Before that...? You guessed it -
Dante. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that Kratos *will* surpass Dante. Maybe not by next year, but unless DMC4 is surprisingly more popular than I anticipate GoW3 will be the nail in the coffin there. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| ZFS | Posted 6/15/2007 11:59:36 PM | message detail |
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That's just how God of War has been. The series has only been around
for a couple of years, and it's gotten huge, like bigger than Devil May
Cry kinda huge. It's a great action game with tons of casual appeal --
and Kratos is the perfect character to love. He's got a great design
(great pictures), he just oozes
badass, and he rips the heads off of things and screams a lot. I don't
have much of a problem believing he can make his way to the top so
fast, really. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 6/16/2007 12:00:10 AM | message detail |
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Also, the fact that Dante isn't going to actually be the main playable
character of DMC4 isn't going to help him on that front at ALL.
Meanwhile, looking at the setup that GoW2 has created for the third
game... Kratos is going to get even MORE insanely popular. Remember,
we're talking about a guy that has continued to impress over and over
on the back of one game. Now we've got an even more popular one of his
here. Kratos is what MC would be on this site if he weren't Xbox, essentially - and that's simply scary to think about. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/16/2007 12:00:54 AM | message detail |
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What perennial favorite has Dante managed to defeat though? Sure, he's
come close, and he had every reason in the world to beat Yoshi, but he
didn't. I'm just skeptical of how much Kratos can boost, regardless of
how well received GOW2 was. I don't see it being enough for him to beat
Ryu now, for example. ...No, I'm not saying Dante would lose to Luigi. (Kratos would though, this year!) --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/16/2007 12:02:19 AM | message detail |
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Also, the fact that Dante isn't going to actually be the main
playable character of DMC4 isn't going to help him on that front at
ALL. Hey, Solid Snake isn't in MGS3! There's no way he can get a boost from it! (Yes, I know, the circumstances are completely different! I just wanted an excuse to throw that around!) --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/16/2007 12:03:53 AM | message detail |
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If he didn't beat Ryu this year, it'd be really close. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/16/2007 12:04:54 AM | message detail |
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Meh, I'll give him 47-48% now, I suppose. I don't expect a nailbiter there, personally. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/16/2007 12:06:55 AM | message detail |
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I'd take him to beat Ryu there, myself. But if he lost, he'd be getting
above 49%, I think. When I think of all he's managed so far with just
one game, and then getting another even more popular game, I'm ready to take this guy up there with some of the bigger guys. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 6/16/2007 12:07:57 AM | message detail |
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What perennial favorite has Dante managed to defeat though? Sure,
he's come close, and he had every reason in the world to beat Yoshi,
but he didn't. You're basing that on stats... it's not like there's some sort of glass ceiling that separated Dante from getting those few thousand votes to propel him past Yoshi. Hell, it's arguable that Dante SHOULD have beaten Yoshi if the pic factor weren't so obscenely in the dino's favor. As for every reason in the world to beat Yoshi... I contest that heavily. Dante's strength is pretty much one of the strangest mysteries of the contest to me. DMC games are *not* that popular overall, and they're even less popular here. The series' lackluster showing in the Series Contest is more or less proof enough of that. Dante has a grand total of three games to his name, two of those games being well-received. And yet, based pretty much on character design and attitude alone, he's able to contend with extremely well-established characters. Faulting him for losing to Yoshi - especially post-Boost... I can't agree with that assessment at all. And again... Kratos is a different story. He doesn't have the same *type* of coolness as Dante, but he's still badass as all hell. And the GoW games are extremely popular. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/16/2007 12:08:52 AM | message detail |
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He's managed 43% on a Ryu that's probably not as strong as he used to
be, really. He still failed to outdo Rikku, and I don't really think
highly of her strength! But either way, I don't think this is the same
Ryu that got 45% on Sonic three years ago, strength-wise. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| ZFS | Posted 6/16/2007 12:10:03 AM | message detail |
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Oh, and while I'm at it, I'd like to see if Lara could work some magic against Chun in a rematch !! aww yeah tomb raider anniversary with the epic boost --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 6/16/2007 12:11:33 AM | message detail |
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I'm *very* inclined to say Ryu 2k6 > Ryu 2k5. Outdoing his
performance on Bowser significantly against Mega Man... sure, a weaker
Mega Man, maybe some pic factor there... but c'mon. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
