GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 441
| ZFS | Posted 6/12/2007 8:45:40 PM | message detail |
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Haha. I like the "they have real artwork" bit. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/12/2007 8:48:45 PM | message detail |
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Better than Kerrigan I would assume, since they are featured in
newer games, they play a large role in WoW, and they have real artwork. You really don't need much of a reason to do better than Kerrigan considering how low on the totem pole she is. Just saying they could do better because she really sucks would suffice. But we really don't need to see any more Blizzard characters. I highly doubt any would do better than Diablo. More than likely they'd just be fodder. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 8:54:26 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd like to see a LoZ-poll soon too, considering the success it had last year... ...better yet, I'd like to see two LoZ-polls split up like the FF-polls in December. We would get some interesting comparisons with the 2D poll, see how far above TP is over MM and WW in the 3D poll, and still keep us debating on where LoZ:TP is in relation to LoZ:LttP. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/12/2007 8:55:53 PM | message detail |
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prediction on a Zelda poll: OOT > LTTP > TP > 1 > WW > MM > 2 prediction on a FF poll: 7 > 6 > 10 > 12 > 8 > 9 > 4 --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/12/2007 8:57:48 PM | message detail |
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Uhhh...Didn't we have a FF poll not too long ago and FFXII barely beat FFIX? --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 8:59:35 PM | message detail |
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Worse -- it barely lost to FF9. That said, it was before Christmas when that poll took place. Nowadays, in such a poll I'd imagine FF12 > FF9, but it wouldn't be too much higher than before. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/12/2007 9:00:13 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2593 Well, that doesn't have the entire series on there, but still, FFXII was a good ways off from FFVIII and I doubt it'd change in a full poll. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Gaddswell | Posted 6/12/2007 9:02:28 PM | message detail |
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You know... I was about to put a Raiden nomination rally up... and I
noticed something. There are no rallies on this board, except for the
nomination rally. Kinda odd to me. The Matt Rally is very much alive, with 83 signs! Oh and Soul started a Fox rally a while back that managed, IIRC, 38 signs. And we need to rally Pikachu back too! --- The law of II > III > I might be most applicable to Xenosaga. - Fuzzles |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/12/2007 9:02:48 PM | message detail |
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Male wins the poll by 101433 votes! First thing to win a poll by over 100000 votes. Congrats, I guess. <_< --- Rufus Shinra 18 decimated me in the Summer 2006 Guru Contest. Support Wario for the Summer 2007 Contest! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/12/2007 9:03:21 PM | message detail |
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No, the Series Contest should be the last time we ever see Pikachu in a match picture. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 9:09:25 PM | message detail |
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MAH GAWD KING THE WOMEN ARE HELPLESS HERE TO THE SHEER NUMBER OF HOSSES --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/12/2007 9:11:02 PM | message detail |
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whoa, FF12 did awful considering it was new. I thought that'd count for something. man, FF12 really might be less popular than FF9 here. --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 9:56:13 PM | message detail |
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I wonder how much of the site had played it then as opposed to how many
voted for it in that poll. I know Balthier's supposed to be a very
likable character whether you liked the game or not, but that then
makes it a matter of how widely-played the game is...and if his
likability has been exaggerated or not. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2007 10:25:01 PM | message detail |
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I don't think a lot of Balthier... sub-Tidus if you ask me. it's like putting Tifa up against Vivi. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/12/2007 10:27:05 PM | message detail |
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and if his likability has been exaggerated or not. It hasn't. Have a favorite FFXII character poll, and he goes Cloud or Auron on it. Seriously, I think he could beat Tidus or maybe even Vivi. I just don't know how high FFXII's playability is now. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/12/2007 10:50:51 PM | message detail |
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I'd personally like to see a Warcraft character just to see how they would do. Leeeeerooooy Jenkins! ... I bet he would do better than Kerrigan, at that. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 11:11:17 PM | message detail |
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I'd vote for him over Kerrigan for sure. Hell, I'd hope he SFF'd her somehow. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/12/2007 11:11:56 PM | message detail |
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Mr. Jenkins would SFF Link into the ground. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Haste_2 | Posted 6/12/2007 11:14:45 PM | message detail |
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Matt, Bidoof, Midgar Zolom... is there are fourth joke character being rallied for? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Gaddswell | Posted 6/12/2007 11:42:28 PM | message detail |
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The Support Ghost! --- The law of II > III > I might be most applicable to Xenosaga. - Fuzzles |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/12/2007 11:45:40 PM | message detail |
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Yes, Support Ghost. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/13/2007 9:10:00 AM | message detail |
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12 isn't bad, but I wouldn't call it great either. I don't know how it would be less popular than 9. And at least 11 finished in last, where it belongs. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 3, Guitar Hero 2, Final Fantasy 12 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/13/2007 9:41:54 AM | message detail |
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If XII is less popular than IX, blame it
on the decline of the popularity of the FF series as a whole since
2002. Back then, it was Square... and then everyone else. But with
Square floundering with the FF brand since FFX, it has allowed other
RPG franchises to step up in popularity. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/13/2007 9:43:35 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't be surprised if XII were less popular than IX. I'd certainly take Tidus > Balthier if the match up were to occur. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| swirIdude | Posted 6/13/2007 1:20:13 PM | message detail |
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In all seriousness, who do you guys think will be the most popular new
entries to the Summer Contest (nominations and strength wise)? I think
Balthier is going to be the top guy, and Midna has potential, but I
can't think of too many, quite honestly. How do you see it? --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Dude, the Romans didn't slap two pieces of stone together, minus adhesive, and call it a day. ~WVI |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 7:41:38 PM | message detail |
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If FFXII is around the same level of FFIX, Balthier could still be
around the area of a Vivi (Yeah, yeah, Black Mage Factor and all that),
and I think he could take Tidus. I don't know if I would actually take
the pick, but still, he has potential. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/13/2007 8:01:16 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Vivi over Tidus, and I'm no longer sure if I'd take Balthier
over Tidus. Outside of this board, people don't think Balthier would be
that strong despite coming from the latest FF game...and we've seen
that FF12 ~= FF9, too. Does anybody want to say Balthier's more
well-respected in FF12 than Vivi is in FF9? I dunno, I'm just growing
more suspicious about his strength..... Anyway, I'd take Midna to be the strongest newcomer. If he's twice as liked as Tingle, I think he matches DK...which doesn't seem too big of a feat to accomplish, especially coming from LoZ:TP instead of two love/hate LoZ games. Anything can happen, but my bet's on Midna. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/13/2007 8:58:26 PM | message detail |
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Vivi also might draw some KH2 strength. --- Wigs... Because Sexy Ain't Enough: ~Helping Bald People Since 1987~ Happily Married to Alanna82 on Valentines Day 05 |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/13/2007 8:59:11 PM | message detail |
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lol he I've heard Vivi in KH2 is literally nothing. --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/13/2007 9:07:56 PM | message detail |
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Pretty much. He does some stuff in the beginning. I kinda remember
something important about him in the beginning and then never any more.
But for the people who've never played FF9, I guess..... uh...
something. *shrug* --- Wigs... Because Sexy Ain't Enough: ~Helping Bald People Since 1987~ Happily Married to Alanna82 on Valentines Day 05 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/13/2007 9:10:38 PM | message detail |
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FF12 ~= FF9 Games =/= characters Yo ho, all together, hoist the colours high, evil thieves and beggars, never shall we die. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 3, Guitar Hero 2, Final Fantasy 12 |
| WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/13/2007 9:14:56 PM | message detail |
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Games Contest Match- Resi 4 or KH2? --- Wigs... Because Sexy Ain't Enough: ~Helping Bald People Since 1987~ Happily Married to Alanna82 on Valentines Day 05 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/13/2007 9:16:06 PM | message detail |
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I'd pick Resident Evil 4 out of favoritism. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 3, Guitar Hero 2, Final Fantasy 12 |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/13/2007 9:16:44 PM | message detail |
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RE4, definitely. --- zizzy *hopes for a Game Contest announcement* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 9:17:34 PM | message detail |
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Outside of this board, people don't think Balthier would be that strong despite coming from the latest FF game Means nothing. And gimme RE4 easily over KHII. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/13/2007 9:17:46 PM | message detail |
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RE4 pretty easy methinks. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience |
| ZFS | Posted 6/13/2007 9:21:01 PM | message detail |
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RE4 beats KH2 down. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/13/2007 9:42:56 PM | message detail |
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RE4 could get more than 25% against LoZ:TP and Gears of War, which is
more than what FF12 can say...and FF12 beat KH2 pretty soundly afew
days before that. Throw in the Wii-release, and RE4 demolishes KH2. Games =/= characters Right, but games = games and I've not heard anybody say Balthier is FF12's Vivi. Means nothing. Oftentimes not, sure, but it can compliment the other evidence we have. FF12 disappointed in the GotY poll by barely beating Gears of War, disappointed in the FF-poll by being about on par with FF9, I'm not hearing people put Balthier on Vivi's level on Board 8, people off Board 8 from my recent project didn't want to take Balthier over either Tidus or Mewtwo, and FF's influence is slowly going down on GameFAQs. Also, let's throw in the one true FF-poll that had FFX beat FF3/6 when the PS2 was only a year old compared to the modern-FF-poll that had FF12 lose to FF9 when the PS2 had six years to expand its fanbase...both of those polls were shortly after their games' releases, and that kind of separation is huge. It's all circumstantial, but it adds up as well. I've lost alot of faith in Balthier lately. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 9:57:40 PM | message detail |
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I'm not hearing people put Balthier on Vivi's level on Board 8, Yeah, how many people here thought Sub-Zero was going to be strong enough to beat Master Chief? Oh right, just a few. How many people thought Knuckles could beat Magus here? Oh right, none. Again, how many times does the board have to be wrong before we admit that their general consensus doesn't mean that much? both of those polls were shortly after their games' releases, and that kind of separation is huge. Yeah, big difference between your game's release coinciding with Christmas and your game's release coinciding with, uhh...Halloween. I'm almost positive that FFX had higher ownership with its first poll than FFXII did. Oh, and FFXII not being an FFX probably doesn't help. I've not heard anybody say Balthier is FF12's Vivi. What does that even mean? The guy that's leagues ahead of the rest of his cast? He is. The guy that people who hate the game even like? He is. Oh, and he's probably closer to an Auron than a Vivi. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 9:59:29 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I guarantee you that FFVIII still wins a "Least Favorite FF" poll, but Squall's still gonna own faces against any FF character who's not from FFVII. You should've just agreed with Ulti on the "Games =/= Characters" point instead of arguing it because that's all you need. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/13/2007 10:12:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, how many people here thought Sub-Zero was going to be strong
enough to beat Master Chief? Oh right, just a few. How many people
thought Knuckles could beat Magus here? Oh right, none. Again, how many
times does the board have to be wrong before we admit that their
general consensus doesn't mean that much? It doesn't mean too much, sure, but there's a reason why the BOP-averages smoke the general-averages in scoring for each contest. Obviously doesn't mean our collective opinions are the decider of matches, but we tend to get many more matches right... ...but seeing such a clash with people off the board when this is an FF character we're talking about strikes me funny. Sure, we may disagree on alot, but not often to such an extent. Yeah, big difference between your game's release coinciding with Christmas and your game's release coinciding with, uhh...Halloween. I'm almost positive that FFX had higher ownership with its first poll than FFXII did. Oh, and FFXII not being an FFX probably doesn't help. FF12 also had more time between its release and the poll compared to FFX and the poll, so that should have helped its case out some to compete with that. Hell, maybe it did...plus Christmas having come and gone probably hasn't helped FF12 much given its love/hate status and the next generation going into full effect now. What does that even mean? The guy that's leagues ahead of the rest of his cast? He is. The guy that people who hate the game even like? He is. Sounds good, that's about what I'm looking for. Now, that said, would you take Balthier over Vivi? Given FF12 and FF9 are about on even ground and FF12 is much newer, I would think you'd see a number of people take Balthier > Vivi...I think I'll check this out for myself real quick. Oh, and he's probably closer to an Auron than a Vivi. Then he wouldn't have a problem with Vivi or Tidus, I would imagine. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| transience | Posted 6/13/2007 10:15:56 PM | message detail |
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I think you're taking that poll you did with a half dozen people on
other boards to mean too much. since when have we put prediction
percentage as an indicator of strength? what's up kefka --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| transience | Posted 6/13/2007 10:16:59 PM | message detail |
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also, Leon means he's more like Auron because he's just made to be
superior to the lead in every single way, just like Auron was. Vivi is
different. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 10:18:19 PM | message detail |
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but there's a reason why the BOP-averages smoke the general-averages
in scoring for each contest. Obviously doesn't mean our collective
opinions are the decider of matches, but we tend to get many more
matches right... And yet the board always has a few matches where the casual gets it right and Board 8 gets burned badly. Or both get burned. plus Christmas having come and gone probably hasn't helped FF12 much given its love/hate status and the next generation going into full effect now. Ehh, I haven't really heard of many people hating FFXII. Just a lot of indifference, really. Kinda like FFIX. And Balthier being FFXII's Auron means that he's easily the favorite character. He's the resident fan favorite, bad boy, smooth character, whatever you like. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 10:19:16 PM | message detail |
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And yeah, his main purpose is to put Vaan in his place whenever he decides to do that thing where he talks. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/13/2007 10:26:55 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I guarantee you that FFVIII still wins a "Least Favorite FF"
poll, but Squall's still gonna own faces against any FF character who's
not from FFVII. 1) Squall has KH1/2/CoM to support him -- Squall arguably looked pretty bad in 2k2 before the KH series redeemed him to many gamers. 2) Auron would have something to say about having his face owned by Squall, considering he outperformed Vincent against Crono last year. Different Crono's, most likely, but not enough to say Squall's taking him down with style. 3) I think we'd agree that being more liked is much more important than being less hated when it comes to strength and potential strength. I think you're taking that poll you did with a half dozen people on other boards to mean too much. since when have we put prediction percentage as an indicator of strength? what's up kefka I said it's a nice compliment to everything else I mentioned, and I think everything else I mentioned has some legs to stand on. also, Leon means he's more like Auron because he's just made to be superior to the lead in every single way, just like Auron was. Vivi is different. If he's that important and likable though, then he shouldn't have a problem matching the likes of Vivi I would think. I'd say this is the point I'm taking too seriously instead of the above, but I don't really get why we would see people hold back from taking such a pick in such a case. And yet the board always has a few matches where the casual gets it right and Board 8 gets burned badly. Or both get burned. Agreed, I'm just saying if you want to bet solely against those odds then your odds aren't very favored. It all depends on who Balthier faces, but I didn't like to see the disparity between our boards when we've seen everything else involving FF12 thus far. Ehh, I haven't really heard of many people hating FFXII. Just a lot of indifference, really. Kinda like FFIX. I guess we're on the same page then -- I've understood FF9 to be a love/hate game as well, so...difference in terms, agreement in similar status. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/13/2007 10:31:01 PM | message detail |
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1) Squall has KH1/2/CoM to support him -- Squall arguably looked
pretty bad in 2k2 before the KH series redeemed him to many gamers. Eh, 35% on Solid Snake wasn't really THAT bad (If Balthier could manage 35% on a Noble Niner, I'd consider him a big success), but yeah, the KH series helped him. And yeah, I was thinking about Auron when I made that comment about Squall owning faces before, but I went ahead and said it anyway. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| transience | Posted 6/13/2007 10:32:35 PM | message detail |
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If he's that important and likable though, then he shouldn't have a problem matching the likes of Vivi I would think. well, the point is that if FF9 > FF12 then Vivi > Balthier would follow. obviously games do not equal characters, but you can't like Balthier without playing his game. you can like Vivi without playing his. Vivi's just awesome like that. no one would argue that he's stronger than Auron but he did almost as well vs. Sephiroth. at the time I was like "whoa, Vivi's on the same console as Sephiroth, but he still almost matched Auron. Vivi's pretty strong!" but I think his appeal is his design, and people will vote for that. the same would hold true vs. Balthier, a guy who isn't really very appealing looks-wise. well, unless you're Leon and have a thing for pretty boys. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/13/2007 10:33:14 PM | message detail |
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I haven't played FF12 yet, but I can't help but think that people are
overrating Balthier. That's just me though. But closer to Auron than
Vivi??? I don't even see Balthier being able to easily handle Donkey
Kong. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/13/2007 10:33:49 PM | message detail |
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Never mind. Read the clarification. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
