GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 441
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/8/2007 1:21:47 PM | message detail |
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Aye. But with no port or remake, I certainly wouldn't put backwards
compatibility on the same level of exposure as anyone, anywhere, being
able to purchase a copy of that other "greatest game" for pretty cheap,
and be able to start playing within minutes. Well, not everyone just yet- but darn near 50% of the site already. --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2007 1:31:28 PM | message detail |
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I know the Vincent stuff is just a joke, but I will play Devil's
Advocate and say that we don't really have any proof of what his
popularity would be if he wasn't optional. It's all hypothetical. --- This is Classic Tammy.--It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 1:53:33 PM | message detail |
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Well, the fact of the matter is that FFVII still beat OoT pretty easily
despite the fact that the latter was easily more played the last time
we had a poll. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 2:07:39 PM | message detail |
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Put me down for FFVII over OoT if there were another game contest. I
think someone did a nice job of comparing how much Link had managed to
beaten Cloud by from 2004 - 2007 and it really wasn't a huge leap or
anything. I don't think games are going to be going up, down, and
sideways like characters tend to do, either. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 2:09:04 PM | message detail |
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2004 - 51.82 2005 - 52.44 2006 - 53.93 Barely 2%. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 2:09:58 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and for the record, Link's percentage against Cloud last year was only 0.11% higher than what FFVII got on OoT. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 2:11:45 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, there it is. I think the match would be closer just because the
Nintendo freaks have come out of the woodwork here lately, but I think
FFVII stays in control for most of it and pulls out a win with, like, I
dunno Vincent/Ganon numbers. 52/48ish. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 2:28:13 PM | message detail |
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the fact that a winner is actually debatable is yet another reason to
hope for a game contest. only two games have a shot, but that's better
than one! more people should use a variety of my sig. Ceej can't ignore us if he sees this board and lots of people have the same sig! --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 2:28:17 PM | message detail |
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Was the TP trailer before or after FF VII vs OOT? If not, then you should consider... 2003 - 48.39 2004 - 51.82 2005 - 52.44 2006 - 53.93 --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 2:29:52 PM | message detail |
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I was thinking that the trailer was announced before the end of the
Games Contest, but I'm not sure. Either way, how does that affect OoT? --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 2:35:27 PM | message detail |
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The Twilight Princess trailer kicked off the process of the site's
drift towards Nintendo. In 2k4, most everybody was behind SFF, but Link
and Samus were clearly more impressive than in 2k3. Not quite The Boost
of the following year, but the beginning of it. Final Fantasy VII stands up pretty well against Nintendo anyway, even recently, so it still should probably hold favourite status over Ocarina of Time in a second games contest. I'd pick the latter, though, because of the series' contest downright shocking final more than anything else. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 2:35:35 PM | message detail |
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Was the TP trailer before or after FF VII vs OOT? The TP trailer was during the middle of the games contest, so before. No idea what that has to do with anything, though! --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 2:35:45 PM | message detail |
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Well, if you're extrapolating from Link's performance then you need to
estimate where Link was at the time of the last FF VII/OOT match. It's
kind of a weak comparison, I admit. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 2:36:53 PM | message detail |
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I'd pick the latter, though, because of the series' contest downright shocking final more than anything else. ...It didn't even break 51%. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 2:39:01 PM | message detail |
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But it shouldn't have even been close, basing off of games from 2k4. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 2:39:04 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, that series contest final wasn't that bad. It was, like, 51/49. That's barely getting outta there with a win. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 2:46:48 PM | message detail |
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Zelda vs. Final Fantasy isn't FF7 vs. OOT. in fact, assuming FF7 is still the favourite: FF7 > OOT > LTTP > (TP) > FF6 >= WW = FF10 > Zelda1/FF8/Majora's Mask there's just more quality Zelda titles than FF titles. this site really only sees three FF titles as being noteworthy: 7, 8 and 10. Zelda has a good half dozen though. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 3:02:46 PM | message detail |
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But it shouldn't have even been close, basing off of games from 2k4. Well, it's not FFVII/OoT. It's Final Fantasy vs. Zelda. That's throwing in a lot more games. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 3:06:31 PM | message detail |
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I'd disagree with that. There's four noteworthy Final Fantasy titles -
VI, VII, VIII, and X. There were four noteworthy Legend of Zelda titles
at the time of the series contest - Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask,
Link to the Past, and Wind Waker. And Wind Waker is a bit sketchy, when
you consider what the games around it have done since 2k4. Based on 2k4
data: VII > OoT LttP > VI by roughly the same amount. X > WW, by not much, at least taking StarCraft at face value Which brings up, VII > OoT > LttP > VI > X > WW Best guess for VIII, based on characters, is around, probably a bit under, X. Best guess for Majora's Mask, based on not much, is under WW. The originals of both series are further down the chain, and the secondary Final Fantasy games (IV, IX) are probably bigger than the secondary Zelda games (LA, uh, Zelda II?). VII > OoT > LttP > VI > X > VIII > WW > MM. Take from that what you will, but when I looked at that chain in the summer of 2k6 I saw a pretty easy Final Fantasy victory, and so did most other people. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 3:08:50 PM | message detail |
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oh, yeah, forgot 6. I even included it in my rankings! you're leaving Zelda 1 out of the equation though, which was directly better than FF1. and if you believe in SSBB hype, you have to believe in TP hype for that contest. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 3:11:04 PM | message detail |
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oh, and ranking FF10 over WW, much less FF8, is questionable. they're
all the same in the stats, and I highly doubt SSBM would have beaten WW
badly. (indirectly, anyway.) I know that at the time, WW vs. FF10 was
looked at as a tossup. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 3:13:10 PM | message detail |
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I have no problem putting FFX over FFVIII, personally. If it came down
to a head-to-head matchup, I feel safe giving FFX the win. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 3:16:30 PM | message detail |
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The original Zelda did better than the original Final Fantasy, sure,
but how many people do you think that was the deciding factor for? I
know you love both, but I don't think that many people share your
sentiments. You could argue that means more Zelda fans are more
cohesive/loyal (because they gave Zelda I "series" type votes), but the
diversity of Final Fantasy was supposed to be a big point in its favour. And, yeah, undoubtedly people were looking forward to Twilight Princess, but suppose I like both series and Final Fantasy VII is my favourite game out of all of them. Am I really going to change my vote based on a game that hasn't come out yet? Go figure out who HM voted for, and how much he liked FFVII at the time. :p --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 3:18:03 PM | message detail |
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Well, favorite game doesn't equate to favorite series; otherwise, SMB wouldn't have touched Final Fantasy. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 3:21:01 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. I'd be confident enough putting FFX ahead of FFVIII, too. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 3:21:06 PM | message detail |
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oh, I ended up picking FF as well. (I had Zelda for so damn long until
I just caved -- darn you groupthink!) my argument at the time is that
while FF has a more diverse fanbase, it also seems far more divided.
some FF titles inspire hate while I don't think Zelda has a bad apple.
you'd be lucky to find someone who likes every modern FF title. I ended up changing my opinion because FF7 is SO popular here that I thought it would edge out a victory. that "25% of the site thinks it's the best game of all time" thing really messed me up. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 3:21:59 PM | message detail |
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We've seen everthing Halo, StarCraft's characters, Soul Calibur, and
Half-Life's characters all do miserably since their high rankings in
the games contest. Of the eight games on that side of the bracket, the
only one that's looked good since then was Kingdom Hearts and it got
the benefit of another game. On the other half of Div128, Vice City has been somewhat discredited (Vercetti hasn't been bad, but GTA was pathetic), but Melee, Final Fantasy X, and Metal Gear Solid 2 have all stood up pretty well. You could even add Fire Emblem to that list, and most of the others we haven't seen again. I have a lot more faith in Melee's half of Div128 than StarCraft's, which subsequently means I have a lot more faith in Final Fantasy X than Wind Waker. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| transience | Posted 6/8/2007 3:25:07 PM | message detail |
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Starcraft is certainly statistically questionable, no doubt. I don't
really trust too much from the game contest at all right now though.
FFX getting 49% on SSBM? let me know when that one happens again. a
Nintendo boost sure seems to boost WW though. I take FF10 > WW > FF8, personally. --- xyzzy *waits patiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 3:25:32 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's not like it'll be a blowout either way. I can't see FFX or
Wind Waker breaking 53-54%, personally, and that limit might be too
high. It also seems like FFX is aging well, but that might just be a
board thing. It seems more popular here now that it ever has been
before. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 3:25:40 PM | message detail |
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I remember those arguments. FF's diversity was supposed to be a big
help because it pulled from all sorts of different games that people
loved, but looking back on that, it always did seem like it could be a
bad thing just like it could be a good. You have people who like a
couple of Final Fantasy games, but then hate the rest, or like one, and
don't care for a few more, and that sorta thing. It's not often you
find someone who really enjoys all of them, because they all tend to be
so different from the last whereas Zelda tends to stick more to its
formula. --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 3:26:57 PM | message detail |
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And, hey, I've already admitted that Final Fantasy VII should still be
the favourite and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it won again
(though if it did better than last time, I'd be flabbergasted). I'd
pick Ocarina of Time, is all, and the series contest is a pretty big
part of that. Perhaps it's only because I don't want to be burned by
picking against my favourites again. :p --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2007 3:34:35 PM | message detail |
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It's not often you find someone who really enjoys all of them, because they all tend to be so different from the last I'd dispute the mechanics of that statement - not much changed between Final Fantasys IV and IX (inclusive) besides the stories and prettier graphics, if you ask me. The mechanics are largely the same, with a twist in each game (Espers, Materia, Junction) which doesn't strike me as much different from the way Zelda titles work (Dark World, Ocarina, Wolf). Although, I have to agree with the overall statement. Despite recognizing that Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy VII aren't very different games, I love one and don't care for the other. I'm not entirely sure why that is. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| ZFS | Posted 6/8/2007 3:42:00 PM | message detail |
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Well, FFVIII is nothing like FFVII. FFVIII is nothing like FFIX. There are some similarities there, but they are much
different than what Zelda does. Each has a different cast, different
storyline, different approach to the battle system, and all that.
There's a whole lot more to dislike when it comes to a Final Fantasy
than it does with a new Zelda game, especially when Final Fantasy is so
focused on its characters and story, if those don't sit well with ya,
you're probably not going to care much for the games, whereas it really
doesn't matter in Zelda because it's story is pretty much the same
stuff every time. But yeah, that's the kinda thing I was talking about. You have some people who love FFVI and don't care about FFVII or people who love FFVII and don't care about any other game in the series. Just all sorts of combinations like that. The biggest fanbase gap you might have with Zelda is 2D love against 3D love, but even that shouldn't be as bad. Not really huge, because FF still only lost by about 3,000 votes, but enough that when you look back on it, it's not like "Why in the world did FF not win with like 55%!" --- Called "Godslayer" by some, feared by most. |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 4:07:40 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps it's only because I don't want to be burned by picking against my favourites again. Funny, I've gotten to the point where I never want to pick my favorites since they always seem to lose. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 4:09:32 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I've gotten burned by Sonic in EVERY contest, and I'm not about to stop picking him! A rematch against Snake? NO PROBLEM! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 4:31:24 PM | message detail |
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Now that's dedication! My favorite characters in the last contest were Mega Man, Crono, and Aeris. Crono was a disappointment, Aeris was a big disappointment, and Mega Man was practically the laughingstock of the contest. So... yeah, I'm a little hesitant to pick my favorites now. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 4:32:29 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man had the last laugh though! He ranked above Crono! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2007 5:18:53 PM | message detail |
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I'll always pick my favorites in a debated match, even if I don't think
they will win. Being on the winning side of the argument with one of my
favorite characters means more to me than being "safe" and going for
the prize money! --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 6:18:58 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man had the last laugh though! He ranked above Crono! ...this is not much of a consolation. ;-; I'll always pick my favorites in a debated match, even if I don't think they will win. Being on the winning side of the argument with one of my favorite characters means more to me than being "safe" and going for the prize money! Personally, I don't really care about the prize money at all... it's more like I hope I'll jinx their opponent by picking them. I guess it's pretty dumb when I actually write it out like that. =P --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 6:21:27 PM | message detail |
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I tried to do that last year by picking Samus to win the main contest
and Link to win the Battle Royale. Guess what? I picked the correct
winners for the first time in a contest!** **The Villains Contest not included, of course. It doesn't count. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/8/2007 6:37:33 PM | message detail |
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Remember there was a short stint where we all thought I had a really
good shot at winning some contest? I think it was the series contest
but I'm not sure. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/8/2007 7:12:50 PM | message detail |
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I thought it was 2k5, but my memory isn't the best. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2007 7:15:44 PM | message detail |
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I had a great shot at winning 2k5 if I had picked Mario > Samus.... And if I hadn't picked Bowser > Snake in the slight chance that I would get to gloat forever if Bowser actually took that match. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 7:30:20 PM | message detail |
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Nobility is forever. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 7:35:53 PM | message detail |
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I guess I would have "won" it last year if I hadn't picked Aeris over Zelda... http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/cb5 --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2007 7:37:41 PM | message detail |
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*looks at the leaderboard* Man, I don't remember Moltar doing that well... --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier *waits for Games Contest announcement* |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/8/2007 7:39:04 PM | message detail |
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I was just noticing the same thing. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin *waits impatiently for CJayC to announce a Game Contest* |
| Master Moltar | Posted 6/8/2007 7:57:46 PM | message detail |
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That's because that was my alt bracket, which was mostly a favorites one. My real bracket was a sad, sad mess of ugly. Though, I do like the fact that my alt account, which has my real name is up there instead of this one, which is linked to "KirbyKhan", and therefore unrecognizable. --- Moltar Status: Eagerly awaiting the next Contest Final SC2K6 score: 176...at least my alt made the Top 15 |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 6/8/2007 9:39:28 PM | message detail |
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Hey, there's me! --- Character Battle V Contest Winner! Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 6/9/2007 12:04:53 AM | message detail |
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I did very well in both the 2k5 and 2k6 Character Contests and even
made the leaderboard a few times on both occasions, but then eventually
flopped out and lost due to Crono cockiness for the most part. --- Official Greatest GSB User Mike Awesome Tourney Winner WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
