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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 441

UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/4/2007 2:27:29 PM | message detail
Paying ode to Part 402 since Part 419.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php



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Warsola | Posted 6/4/2007 2:28:08 PM | message detail
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LegendarySnake | Posted 6/4/2007 2:28:47 PM | message detail
Paying ode to the worst stats topic ever?
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"I'll die...after I kill you."
__Smurf__ | Posted 6/4/2007 2:28:51 PM | message detail
I can't remember the last time I've posted in the stats topic. >_>
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/4/2007 2:29:24 PM | message detail
Prediction: CjayC will not say anything about a contest this month.

in 8/10 times when I predict something in these topics, I'm wrong. ^_^
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Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/4/2007 2:31:18 PM | message detail
if we don't get a contest announcement, and I mean either games or characters (no funny business), soon I'm going to gouge out my face

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/4/2007 2:32:17 PM | message detail
From LegendarySnake Posted 6/4/2007 5:28:47 PM #003
Paying ode to the worst stats topic ever?

Oh pull the bug out of your ass already. It was mindless fun in the grand scheme of things and lasted all of a few hours =p

~*ST*~
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Now Playing: Final Fantasy 3, Guitar Hero 2, Final Fantasy 12
X_Dante_X | Posted 6/4/2007 2:33:52 PM | message detail
man I miss all the best stuff because of work.

What happened?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2007 2:35:12 PM | message detail
This coming from the guy who got upset about there being another moving stage in SSBB. I don't have any problem with having fun. Wasting a topic posting LUEshi repeatedly isn't it. Variant LUEshis (like throwing the Yoshi head on Phoenix Wright or something) can be amusing, but the actual LUEshi is bleh.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 6/4/2007 2:37:36 PM | message detail
Yeah right... that topic wasn't fun at all, it was completely annoying and disruptive, and when compared to the crap I've been marked and modded for before in the stats topics as being disruptive, it was a whole hell of a lot worse.

Anyway, I'm not going to post about that issue again, because I'm not starting another huge debate over whether it was annoying or not, because being annoying is subjective, and multiple people clearly found it to be so.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/4/2007 2:48:26 PM | message detail
I wasn't upset about that, I'm just saying that the only way a moving stage can work is if it has a fairly slow pacing, like with Pokemon Stadium in SSBM. Assuming there's no lips near the edges that you can't roll past -_-

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Now Playing: Final Fantasy 3, Guitar Hero 2, Final Fantasy 12
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/4/2007 2:52:29 PM | message detail
Anyway, I'm not going to post about that issue again, because I'm not starting another huge debate over whether it was annoying or not, because being annoying is subjective, and multiple people clearly found it to be so.

Which was 90% of the reason that topic was so awesome. People getting that worked up over NOTHING amuses me. I have my moments too, but the people whining about that topic always confuse me.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 6/4/2007 2:55:08 PM | message detail
402 was brilliant.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 3:13:41 PM | message detail
I added a section of X-Stats Brackets from each contest on MMX's site just for curiosity's sake, if anyone's interested. You can find them here:

http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/cbvxstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july06xstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k5rawstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k5xstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k4rawstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k4xstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sp2k4rawstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sp2k4xstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k3xstatsbracket.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/sc2k2xstatsbracket.htm
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/5/2007 3:19:41 PM | message detail
(6) Knuckles the Echidna
(11) Miles “Tails” Prower

(3) Magus
(14) CATS

(7) Kirby
(10) Ken Masters

(2) Solid Snake
(15) Ratchet


Knuckles first wins over Tails in a SFF match, then he upsets Magus that 100% of the board 8ers would get wrong then CjayC decides that round 3 is the sprite round so Knuckles looks super awesome while Snake looks totally lame and losses the match so Knuckles won the rematch.

LOL I C WAT U DID THERE.

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Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day.
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 5:35:31 PM | message detail
Needed now.
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Kaxon | Posted 6/5/2007 5:45:15 PM | message detail
bold prediction: Game Contest 2 will be announced before this topic is done.
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ZFS | Posted 6/5/2007 5:45:42 PM | message detail
There's one bold prediction that needs to come true!

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Gaddswell | Posted 6/5/2007 5:46:21 PM | message detail
From what I saw, 402 wasn't bad at all (it actually looked awesome since it happened on the day of a debatable Yoshi match on the right number and happened to be on the 3rd anniversary) until the end, where the same 3-4 people spammed LUEshi in every post. Then it got pointless as there was nothing of value (or very little) left on the pages.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/5/2007 5:57:33 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: "Don't underestimate the power of dolphin" wins the quote contest.
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This was KING BELLIS LOL
Ngamer64 | Posted 6/5/2007 6:01:02 PM | message detail
For anyone upset at creative for not having the '06 bracket up, remember that all Character brackets can now be checked as part of lolx.

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?bracket=2006c

Also keep in mind that if pure x-stats isn't your bag, but how characters did in direct matchups is more your line, lolx also delivers.

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Samus

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Tifa

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Mega%20Man

And the rest.

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Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest!
Kaxon | Posted 6/5/2007 7:05:51 PM | message detail
Also keep in mind that if pure x-stats isn't your bag, but how characters did in direct matchups is more your line, lolx also delivers.

Of course, you can see all this (minus the pictures) and much more on the character's Oracle Profile page!

http://oraclechallenge.com/profiles.php?type=competitors
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2007 8:22:39 PM | message detail
Well considering I have Snake at 43.71%, that Samus number doesn't really work with me. (No I don't think she rSFF'd him)

I like to think of it as minor SFF...but, tomato/tom-ah-to.
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Draco1214 | Posted 6/5/2007 8:24:07 PM | message detail
Whoa, haven't posted in one of these in a while.
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 8:29:23 PM | message detail
I'm so tired of talking about stats topic 402.

going back to the last topic:

LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 8:21:54 PM | message detail | #494
I personally like the idea of holding Rikku constant for Samus, by the way, which puts her at 42.83 on BL. I want to hold Chun-Li constant, which puts Zelda at 37.02, which might be a bit high, really.


you want to use two Dream Division characters as constants? did you not see what happened to all of them? at the very least, Bowser didn't look as good. Kirby's a bit less clear, but I sure wouldn't say he looked equal to 2k5. Ryu's fourpack is, well, who knows? I definitely wouldn't hold them as constants. it might make for good numbers (if not a bit high), but I definitely don't think there's any ground for the bases.

my personal opinion of what happened last year is.. kind of hard to explain. actually, it's more embarassing than anything else because I have to try to explain it statistically to account for voters actually having a brain!

I think Snake was a beast because he was identified by a good chunk of Nintendo fans as a Nintendo character. he didn't have to face any Nintendo characters in the male bracket, so he had no problem destroying everything in his path. Sonic got beat worse than expected because of it. I actually think Crono would have done better than Sonic in that situation, though I have no proof other than personal opinion and/or bias.

then Snake got to Samus, and those votes dried up. for that single match, I actually like the idea of Samus going against 2k5 Snake. it makes no sense mathematically, but if you assume Snake to have his 36.97 number and then base the female bracket off that, I think you'd have much "better" x-stats. (if I did the math right, Samus is at 39.42. whatever. basically, I'm saying that Samus "rSFFed" Snake, which is completely ridiculous but makes the most x-stat sense.)

of course, this is all my personal opinion and should never be done, but whatever!
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2007 8:58:57 PM | message detail
he didn't have to face any Nintendo characters in the male bracket, so he had no problem destroying everything in his path.

Solid/Yoshi.

That was also the sprite round though, so that would be jaded evidence to help your case.....
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:00:54 PM | message detail
oh, my bad. totally forgot about him.

I meant noble nine-y guys, people that actually stood a chance at beating him. he got the two perfect NN opponents: Sonic and Mega Man. anyone else has a fanbase that has abandoned him before (Square) or a fanbase that will abandon him now (Nintendo).
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/5/2007 9:06:34 PM | message detail
But the Blue Bomber is a psuedo-Nintendo character (see: Mega Man/Yoshi, Link/Mega Man) with a much longer history with Nintendo than Snake, so why would they ditch Mega Man for the guy that's been in one trailer? This can be explained away by saying Nintendo fans are really forgetful, downright worship Brawl, or Mega Man simply got weaker, but it's something to think about, at least.
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:09:10 PM | message detail
yeah, I've thought about that too.

but in retrospect, I actually think Mega Man did admirably vs. Snake! Sonic looked way better than Mega Man did and he essentially equaled MM's percentage. this is probably me just twisting numbers for my own benefit, but as I said in the last topic, everyone looks a wee bit too high for my own likings when it comes to MM's division.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2007 9:10:34 PM | message detail
As a side-note, I think today's poll will prove interesting -- it looks like a very large majority of Wii-owners here have been long-term Nintendo fans...which is a little weird for a console meant to reach for new demographics. Not surprising, per say...but given that lots of Nintendo fans had given up hope after the N64/on the Gamecube, I didn't think the top option would be kicking such ass.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 9:11:35 PM | message detail
Well, I don't know. Depending on where Samus is, I could project Rikku off of Frog since they performed similarly on Samus. I think Rikku ends up okay anyway because it seems like Bowser overperforming on Ryu cancels out Bowser overperforming on Snake. Seriously though, Riku's "boost" in 2006 does look a little more reasonable (I think his boost is bigger than Sora's in 2006, if you go by raw gain, if I'm not mistaken) if EC is right about Samus.

Extrapolating the males isn't too much trouble, I don't think. Luigi makes for a good base for the bottom half, in my opinion, even though it really seemed like he had gained outside of doing about as expected (if not a little worse) on Sonic. Hayabusa feels like the best base for the upper half, in my personal opinion.

Regardless, a lot of the last few matches seem to conflict, but I can't figure out which ones are the anomalies. Samus/Tifa is obviously out there. I'd say Samus/Zelda is very likely to be an anomaly as well, what with it putting Zelda above every male except for Solid Snake. But then again, if Snake/Samus is in error, that could make up for some of that. But then again, if Sonic/Snake was erroneous, that could also explain some of that. Seriously, Sonic barely being ahead of Mega Man seems very strange with the way the two of them performed, and I have a really hard time believing he's stronger than Crono when they got similar percentages on Ryu and Bowser, respectively, and we know how their match went. But there's definitely no way Zelda is that much stronger than Ganondorf when she couldn't even outdo him on Yuna.

Speaking of Yuna, holding her constant might be a good idea, but she certainly didn't seem constant. However, I really feel like the Female Bracket was volatile as it is and more prone to overperformances. I can't really explain it, but I certainly think that how good the character looks could've had some effect on the voters. After all, the site has an overwhelmingly male majority.

In conclusion, Jade really sucks because she isn't even worth 10% on Samus when Nidoran F almost managed 20.
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:11:36 PM | message detail
also, I think it's mostly older Nintendo fans that associate MM with Nintendo. MM and Nintendo really haven't crossed paths in ~10 years, outside of the occasional remake or DS game. certainly nothing like the 90s.

Snake, on the other hand, is new and exciting!
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:12:40 PM | message detail
Nintendo Power Hour, H.

("none of them" represent!)
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2007 9:14:36 PM | message detail
True, but even then, goddamn.

I'll wait until it's got the NPH out of its system before I keep commenting on it though.....
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:16:11 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2774

whoa, what the hell?
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Yesmar | Posted 6/5/2007 9:16:54 PM | message detail
I doubt this affected anything, but Samus/Snake glitched into a lower position on the front page for some of Snake's best hours in the early morning. I know that this probably didn't affect much, but it's possible that it underrated Snake's performance by a little bit.
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:18:06 PM | message detail
why would Snake benefit there and not Samus?
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2007 9:18:07 PM | message detail
Ha, nice find. I was thinkin' that poll would be the next one done anyway. M to N to S and all.....
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/5/2007 9:18:26 PM | message detail
Less than two percent better than Yoshi (who Mega Man doubled the year before!) may be stretching the definition of admirable. Sprite round, epic collapses by Bowser and Frog, etc, but that's still quite a difference.

Eh, the last two female matches were completely screwed up, I don't get what happened on the male side for a very large number of characters, and the final was wonky. I just glanced at cn's XStats and they are completely inexplicable. I think I'll resort to my standard strategy of picking the character I like better in close matches again next year rather than trying to work it all out. :p
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:18:46 PM | message detail
oh, I guess it's Snake's best time. NPH says differently though, I think!

I dunno, I'd have to look at the updater. I know Samus was ahead the whole time, though.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 9:18:53 PM | message detail
Well, the site is certainly old enough for most people to make the connection. His performances on Yoshi and Link seem to indicate that. Plus, I really think Sonic has a Nintendo connection as well, as strange as it sounds. Outside of Nintendo characters in 2005, Sonic and Knuckles also seemed to have noticeable boosts. Could just be coincidence though. Regardless, Sonic Team has had extensive experience with Nintendo since the death of the Dreamcast, and from what I've heard, whenever Sonic games have gone multiplatform, the Nintendo version has sold the most.

But I don't know if the possible Nintendo connection Sonic has would make a difference in a match. It certainly didn't seem to have any effect against Luigi or in his two matches with Samus, though Mario/Shadow seems to argue otherwise. That just tells me how much we need to see Mario/Sonic. I just have a feeling there's no way that goes according to the stats. Either Sonic impresses the heck out of everyone (a la Mario/Shadow) or Mario crushes him (a la Mario World/Sonic 2). I personally think the first is more likely. Sonic was always pushed as "the cooler Mario." That's one time I could see an overperformance from the Blue Blur.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/5/2007 9:19:03 PM | message detail
why would Snake benefit there and not Samus?

He's done really well during that time period in the past.
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Better late than never.
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/5/2007 9:20:07 PM | message detail
I actually just saw that PlayStation poll when I was looking for the XBox results to update the Board8Wiki...weird. The Microsoft poll is 11 days back for some odd reason. I guess the ads really screw it up.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/5/2007 9:22:14 PM | message detail
It certainly didn't seem to have any effect against Luigi

Hah, Luigi was obviously SFF'd into the ground!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 9:22:14 PM | message detail
Snake has always been a night vote monster, even before 2006. Look at the beginning of Snake/Sonic. He was destroying him. That's part of the reason his day vote was so crappy. The fact that his day vote improved so noticeably is what tells me that his boost was in a large part attributed to Nintendo.
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:22:17 PM | message detail
yeah, I was confused when I tried to find it. I had to look twice to locate it. I was like "that wasn't 11 days ago... was it?"
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:24:14 PM | message detail
Snake has always been a night vote monster, even before 2006. Look at the beginning of Snake/Sonic. He was destroying him. That's part of the reason his day vote was so crappy. The fact that his day vote improved so noticeably is what tells me that his boost was in a large part attributed to Nintendo.

I thought this too. I've also simply given up on trying to gauge Snake - it seems like every fanbase has a stake in him. playstation, Square, Nintendo, hell, even Konami. (I still think he overperformed on Soma -- I don't believe Soma is that weak.)

conclusion: AUGH X-STATS
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transience | Posted 6/5/2007 9:25:02 PM | message detail
plus, Snake is so strong that you have to draw your own conclusions match by match. I'm pretty sure the bottom half of the Noble Nine is all gut and no stats at this point.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 9:27:35 PM | message detail
Snake is the melting pot of video game characters, it seems. A true patriot!

Heh, the bottom half of the Noble Nine is all we have left now, assuming Samus gets pulled. I gotta wonder what CJayC is gonna do this year though. I'd love to see a gauntlet, personally. The only problem is that the potential order would end up being blah. Snake gets beaten by Samus, Samus gets SFF'd by Mario, Sephiroth stomps on Mario for the 3rd time, Cloud beats Sephiroth for the 3rd time, and Link goes Twilight Princess on Cloud.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2007 9:28:28 PM | message detail
And why do you say even Konami? Snake IS Konami, friend!

Speaking of which, does Snake overperform on Alucard?
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