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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 440

LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2007 1:55:37 PM | message detail
Well, I'll just say that SF has some of the most memorable music in gaming, in my opinion. I haven't played the game seriously in a long time, but I can still run the stage music through my head right now. I can do that with a lot of SSB music, too. Music in a fighting game feels more important to me than other genres, really.
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 2:04:33 PM | message detail
I can't find too much to care about when it comes to music, especially when it's just a list of composers. That's one of the last things I tend to care about in games. As long as it's not grating, I'm good to go. But whatever, that's just me.

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wavedash101 | Posted 5/22/2007 2:15:38 PM | message detail
I presonally find good music to be very important...it can really get you into a game and really enhances the experience...I've been taken back a couple times just realizing ho excellent the music in certain games gives it the right feel...almost like a sense of wonderment...though the fusion of the graphics and the music is important...no happy tunes in a somber tomb or some such nonsense

Best feeling in gaming besides offline multiplayer fun
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 2:48:33 PM | message detail
All the low numbers are weird to me for the PoP... I mean, have we ever seen someone go from a 3 seed to completely out of the contest? Granted it was a 6, but I'm assuming a 3 given a normal bracket, the only two females who could have possibly bumped him to a 4 is Samus and Tifa, but I think he would have made the cut. Yet at the same time, I really don't think we'll see him back in and, if we do it's going to be in a completely unwinnable situation, which really sucks.


And now for more important things, why the hell isn't there a bracket for the character battle on the site?


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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 2:52:26 PM | message detail
Oh... and the real reason why I came into this topic before seeing all those new posts.

HM, do you have the sales figures for Halo, Halo 2, SSB, and SSB:M worldwide?

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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/22/2007 2:52:47 PM | message detail
I mean, have we ever seen someone go from a 3 seed to completely out of the contest?

Don't remember the Curse of the Three Seed, huh? Speaking of, both Kefka and Magus were 3s in 2005 and they didn't come back. Lloyd and Ocelot were 2s.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2007 2:55:20 PM | message detail
Bah, RPGuy beat me to it. I was going to bring up Kefka and Magus. You can blame Lloyd and Ocelot on the Nomination Rally, I suppose.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 2:56:30 PM | message detail
I wasn't counting the transition from 2005 to 2006 because of the split in the field.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2007 2:57:56 PM | message detail
Oh, and uh...Serious Sam was a 3 seed in 2002...
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/22/2007 2:58:06 PM | message detail
Serious Sam, then. Jill and Duke Nukem were once three seeds, as well.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 2:59:34 PM | message detail
Fair enough... but weren't nominations in 2002 basically decided by Ceej and a topic on the boards?

I guess my question was from 03-04 and 04-05 did any 3 seeds or lower go poof from the contest. Didn't think that one through very well.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 3:00:36 PM | message detail
Serious Sam, then. Jill and Duke Nukem were once three seeds, as well.

I didn't mean ever, just from one year to the next.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/22/2007 3:02:07 PM | message detail
Is it just me, or is it odd for one of the biggest games to come out in a long time have so much of its early hype be around its music?

The hype is because these composers likely wouldn't be composing for SSBB unless some of their characters were in the game. Mitsuda is particularly exciting in this regard.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2007 3:02:27 PM | message detail
Hayabusa is the only 3 seed who's dropped a good bit in seeding from one year to the next, excluding 2005 to 2006.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 3:04:45 PM | message detail
Yeah... it's hard for me to think there's that big of a drop... I mean from 05-06, it was basically a 3 dropping to a 5 and they were out, nothing crazy, and at the same time I really don't see PoP getting back in. Nothing annoys me more than his one year of good seeding going to waste because of a damn female bracket... he could have taken down a 6 seed dammit!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2007 3:06:19 PM | message detail
The lack of Nomination Rally support may hurt him as well. Ocelot and Lloyd did go from high seeds to none at all. Kerrigan probably would've gone straight out if not for the Female Bracket, too.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/22/2007 3:08:30 PM | message detail
Yeah... I don't doubt Kerrigan not seeing a return if it was normal, but she was a 4! I really do think Ocelot and Lloyd would have made it, just with terrible seeds.

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FfamranBunansa | Posted 5/22/2007 3:12:59 PM | message detail
It has just been brought to my attention that one of those composers listed for SSBB did the music for a Hentai game.

...I'm not sure what to think of this.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/22/2007 3:16:37 PM | message detail
this has to be the only time I've seen a composer list studied and picked apart. oh, board 8..
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 3:39:29 PM | message detail
HM, do you have the sales figures for Halo, Halo 2, SSB, and SSB:M worldwide?

Halo and Halo 2 are roughly ~7 million. SSB and SSBM is roughly 5 - 6 million.

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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 3:41:07 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'll eat my hat if any of those composers are there because their characters are in there. Strictly speaking of the ones that aren't from Nintendo games, of course.

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trannyscience | Posted 5/22/2007 3:42:08 PM | message detail
wasn't Uematsu announced to be doing something back during e3? I seem to remember something like that..




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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 3:43:05 PM | message detail
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swirIdude | Posted 5/22/2007 3:44:44 PM | message detail
wasn't Uematsu announced to be doing something back during e3?

Didn't he compose the main theme?
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 3:45:06 PM | message detail
That he did.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/22/2007 3:59:53 PM | message detail
Exact numbers, based on a topic HM made in March of '06.

1.) Super Smash Bros. Melee (GCN)
Japan: 1.39 million
America: 3.60 million
Europe: 1.06 million
Total: 6.05 million

2.) Super Smash Bros. (N64)
Japan: 1.97 million
America: 2.93 million
Europe: 0.65 million
Total: 5.55 million

He also said that at that point, the two Halo games combined had sold 12 million copies worldwide. So all 4 titles are in that 6 to 7 mil range, pretty much.

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/22/2007 8:53:43 PM | message detail
I decided to swing by GameSpot to see how they feel about some recently released and upcoming games. We've seen time and time again that GameSpot and GameFAQs don't share tastes every time, but it's worth checking out...

...Gears of War is today's #1 game (9.6 - GS; 9.4 - votes), with Oblivion and GoW2 right behind it (9.5;9.2 and 9.2;9.6, respectively). We've seen Gears and Oblivion hold their own in various ways last year here, and the original GoW barely missed being the runner-up for GotY in 2k5...and it looks like GoW2 is about as equally well-received as the original, too (GoW got a 9.3;9.5). HM, do you have sales-numbers on GoW2?

As for the games people are pumped about most...Starcraft 2, Halo 3, and Metroid Prime 3 are #1/#2/#3 not only as upcoming games, but overall for the site. Meanwhile, SSBB is #10 only as an upcoming game...unusual, but hey, it's GameSpot. Also, there's a little poll they're running today about Starcraft 2:



http://www.gamespot.com/pages/modules/poll.php?tag=poll;action

"Blizzard unveils StarCraft 2! Your thoughts?"

Woohoo! Jacked up and good to go! (54%) 17,598
No StarCraft MMO? Back to WoW I guess... (7%) 2,463
So, how's Diablo III coming along? (30%) 9,697
There go my hopes for that Lost Vikings reunion. (7%) 2,267
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ZFS | Posted 5/22/2007 9:13:41 PM | message detail
One million sold in America as of April.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/23/2007 12:30:39 PM | message detail
So...who do we think will be new this year?
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ZFS | Posted 5/23/2007 12:36:37 PM | message detail
Balthier!

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swirIdude | Posted 5/23/2007 12:39:22 PM | message detail
See I asked that question and got Zerg Rushed!

Balthier, Midna, Vaan, everyone in the Nomination Rally except Nightmare is what I was thinking.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 5/23/2007 11:01:36 PM | message detail
Victory for the PS3 over the 360 and the Wii?! GASP!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/23/2007 11:03:35 PM | message detail
PC is winning?

aww yeah
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ZFS | Posted 5/23/2007 11:03:57 PM | message detail
The power of StarCraft right there!

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jonthomson | Posted 5/23/2007 11:08:25 PM | message detail
Woo. Starcraft 2.

Too quiet really. Oh well, off to exams I go, I'm sure the noms were up during my last exam period but my memory is hazy
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 5/24/2007 7:05:53 AM | message detail
It's funny seeing PS2 still hold on for victory even with the next-gen counterparts out.

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Yesmar | Posted 5/24/2007 3:07:41 PM | message detail
Kairi- 20% Hype from Kingdom Hearts 2 has died down, but Axel was able to make it in with only 32 males, so I think she has a better shot than some.

Princess Peach- 40% People have been trying to get her in a contest for a while and she did decent in the one she was in, so she has a pretty good shot at returning.

Aeris Gainsborough- 15% Failed to impress in her first contest in three years

Chun-Li- 60% Sure. Why not?

Lara Croft- 5% Nothing much behind her anymore.

Tidus- 98% Has made every contest so far and I don't expect him to miss one now.

Gordon Freeman (Will people care now that the curse is broken?)- 85% He finally won a match so the novelty is gone, but he's still a board favorite.

The Prince of Persia- 25% Had the misfortune of appearing in a powered up male bracket for his debut, and he didn't make a splash so probably not.

Zero- 99%

Captain Falcon- 25% Same as PoP

Leon Kennedy- 90% His games are one year older, but they're still insanely respected.

Alucard- 98% Same as Tidus

Sub-Zero- 70% Actually impressed in his debut. Will be interesting to see what else he can do.

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Donkey Kong- 98% Same as Tidus/Alucard. Only got screwed because of the divided bracket.

Fox McCloud- 50% Depends if people still try to push for him or just give up.

Knuckles the Echidna- 100% Only got snubbed because of the bracket.

Pac-Man- 50% Seems to find a way to keep getting into these things.

Magus- 98% Another person screwed by the bracket.

Ness- 88% Bracket again, but there's still always the chance he'll be snubbed.

Wario- 60% Depends when SSBB comes out.

Shadow the Hedgehog- 35% No Sonic games have really done anything of note lately, so his chances are a little shaky.

Kefka- 95% Another bracket screwjob

Raiden- 15% I think that his time for a return has passed.

Vyse- 25% See Pac-Man. Always finds a way of sneaking in.

Tommy Vercetti- 51% Why not?

Frog- 55% Why not as well?

Liquid Snake- 20% Is considered a fraud, but there's still a chance.

Vivi Orunitia- 95% Bracket screwjob

Miles "Tails" Prower- 35% See Shadow

Carl Johnson- 45% Failed to impress. I actually think he has less of a shot than Vercetti.

Diablos- 60% Got screwed by the bracket, but to a lesser extent. Will probably still find a way to get in.

Revolver Ocelot- 60% Same as Diablos
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therealmnm | Posted 5/24/2007 3:10:00 PM | message detail
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therealmnm | Posted 5/24/2007 3:10:19 PM | message detail
Lara Croft- 5% Nothing much behind her anymore.

A remake of the original Tomb Raider using Legend's engine? It's the best thing Lara Croft has going for her since the original...
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Yesmar | Posted 5/24/2007 3:10:56 PM | message detail
A remake of the original Tomb Raider using Legends engine? It's the best thing Lara Croft has going for her since the original...

Oh, I haven't really been keeping up on gaming stuff lately. I'll give her up to around 30% then I guess.
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Mr Purge | Posted 5/24/2007 4:46:22 PM | message detail
Could someone link me to the page where TRE keeps the CS&D topics archived?
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trannyscience | Posted 5/24/2007 4:47:23 PM | message detail
http://www.thengamer.com/stats/
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Mr Purge | Posted 5/24/2007 4:52:19 PM | message detail
oh hey thanks tranny
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2007 9:03:18 PM | message detail
VERY interesting poll today.


One minute in:

Which non-Nintendo character would you most like to see appear in Super Smash Bros. Brawl?

Cloud Strife 23.7% 64
Crono 10.74% 29
Dante 5.19% 14
Master Chief 8.15% 22
Mega Man 16.3% 44
Ryu Hayabusa 7.41% 20
Sonic the Hedgehog 24.44% 66
Sub-Zero 4.07% 11
TOTAL VOTES 270



Is Sonic about to redeem himself from 2k3?!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 5/24/2007 9:07:52 PM | message detail
Well that does it Sonic > Cloud gg contests
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 5/24/2007 9:09:15 PM | message detail
I SO would've predicted this if it were a contest! Go Sonic!
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2007 9:12:24 PM | message detail
...! Does Mega Man have a shot at beating Cloud here, too?! Oh, the glory that would be to make up for Seph > Mega twice!




Ha...and I wish that SF's Ryu would have taken Hayabusa's spot...and fit Sora in somehow too, though with Cloud and Crono in there he wouldn't stand a chance.
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ZFS | Posted 5/24/2007 9:18:38 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife 21.24% 541
Sonic the Hedgehog 22.85% 582


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Janus5000 | Posted 5/24/2007 9:19:21 PM | message detail
Master Chief 8.01% 204
Sub-Zero 4.59% 117


And this is before the day vote (otherwise I'd be laughing at MC for sucking this much).

Sub-Zero is so screwed.
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transience | Posted 5/24/2007 9:19:43 PM | message detail
Cloud will win this. we all know how Cloud does at the beginning of polls here...

..but Sonic's only winning because he's so rumoured to be in there, plus his relationship with Nintendo, etc etc. Cloud isn't really a realistic choice, so he's not dominating like he should be.
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