GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 439
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/23/2007 11:52:48 AM | message detail |
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Villain Contest Factor. Though Virtual Console Factor might also come
in for the next character contest, so one will have to change the name. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "Proud" owner of 1 V-TOKEN! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/23/2007 3:06:25 PM | message detail |
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He's saying that Zelda overperformed on Samus for the same reason
Bowser and Ganon did on Sephiroth in the Villains Contest. I figure
something happened there or in Snake/Samus because I don't buy Zelda
being stronger than the entire male bracket sans Snake. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/23/2007 3:07:24 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I definitely don't think Snake/Zelda 2006 would have been a
closer match than Snake/Zelda 2005 was, so I don't think she gained
more than he did. Ganon showed no signs of a massive gain. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/23/2007 3:09:02 PM | message detail |
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I'd go with that. Though in fairness, her demolition job of Aeris was pretty impressive. CRAZY THEORY: Maybe more female voters came to the site due to increased DS ownership and voted for the more feminine character! HAH! <_< --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "Proud" owner of 1 V-TOKEN! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/23/2007 3:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Sure, beating down Aeris like that was impressive, but I think that's
more the flower girl's weakness than Zelda's strength since she could
barely do better against Yuna. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2007 3:10:39 PM | message detail |
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*looks at Samus's 12% prediction percentage to win the contest, 41% to win the female side* yeah.. can't say I agree with the idea of antivoting due to being the favourite. --- i do not violation any rules (i have 3 messages) with this account |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/23/2007 3:10:59 PM | message detail |
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CRAZY THEORY: Maybe more female voters came to the site due to
increased DS ownership and voted for the more feminine character! HAH! ...that actually makes sense. Huh. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| ZFS | Posted 4/23/2007 3:12:53 PM | message detail |
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CRAZY THEORY: Maybe more female voters came to the site due to
increased DS ownership and voted for the more feminine character! HAH! XD I approve. --- "Listen to my story. This may be our last chance." -- Tidus |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/23/2007 3:37:43 PM | message detail |
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yeah.. can't say I agree with the idea of antivoting due to being the favourite. Those 41% were probably SURE she would win, though. You get the other 59% who didn't know of Samus' strength, but anybody who even saw one of these contests would probably figure that Samus would take the win. I certainly think that she at least saw a watered-down version of what Sephiroth got. The rest can be explained through all sorts of the usual diabolical explanations, like ZSS, boosting, rSFF etc --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "Proud" owner of 1 V-TOKEN! |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/23/2007 3:38:07 PM | message detail |
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And by "the rest" I mean the rest of the overperformance. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "Proud" owner of 1 V-TOKEN! |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2007 3:39:18 PM | message detail |
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i see --- i do not violation any rules (i have 3 messages) with this account |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/23/2007 3:44:19 PM | message detail |
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... no u? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "Proud" owner of 1 V-TOKEN! |
| therealmnm | Posted 4/23/2007 7:01:37 PM | message detail |
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hay guyz --- Currently playing: God of War 2, Fable, Ultimate Spiderman, FFVI Advance |
| Haste_2 | Posted 4/23/2007 7:38:51 PM | message detail |
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...So when did the Series Contest start last year anyway? It was called the July 2006 Contest, so I think July 1st. HaRRicH: about the Zelda/Ganondorf comparison on Samus... keep in mind that they faced Samus in too different years. Everything Zelda in general was a bit stronger in '06 than in '05, and Samus being a little weaker in '06 isn't out of the question. However, I'm thinking that either Samus weakened a bit or Zelda/Samus had some sort of rSFF, since the strongest Samus we know I think could do better than 61% on Yuna, which is what Ganondorf managed on her the previous year. Anyway, there are two reasons I can think of why Zelda could've benefited from SFF than Ganondorf: one, Samus/Zelda was a female/female match, and two, Zelda is the namesake of her series, so she may be a bit better with dealing with SFF than Ganondorf for whatever reason (though it doesn't make any sense to me). Also, who's to say where Tifa really is? She DID have FF:AC and KH2 behind her going into the contest last year as well as whatever influx FF12 and DoC:FF7 brought in..... Vincent went from 45% on Crono to 49% on him, and he was the star... but I suppose you have a point of the FF12 influx, but I kinda doubt it existed (noticing most matches outside Tifa/Samus still make sense, and Aeris and Rikku didn't do too hot after FF12's release). I just can't see Tifa being as strong as Vincent, so I think it's optimistic to say Tifa's around 37% on BL, slightly above Ganondorf. Don't forget she only received 66% of the vote on Peach. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/24/2007 8:04:51 AM | message detail |
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Only 66%, heh. Still, if you assume that Jill was still equal to
Hayabusa in 2005, it does put Tifa in the 36-37% range, though I don't
mind thinking she's a little stronger due to how big RE4 was (Yes, I
know she wasn't in it). Either way, I think it's funny that she ended
up nearly equal to Luigi in the unadjusted stats like she was in 2003. Part of Vincent's gain on Crono could be in part to him getting weaker, since his day vote all of a sudden went from below average to abysmal like the rest of Chrono Trigger. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/24/2007 9:23:44 AM | message detail |
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HaRRicH: about the Zelda/Ganondorf comparison on Samus... keep in
mind that they faced Samus in too different years. Everything Zelda in
general was a bit stronger in '06 than in '05, and Samus being a little
weaker in '06 isn't out of the question. Points taken, I just think that's a big jump; Zelda outdoing Ganon by 4% against Samus is no joke when we also saw Vincent beat Ganon by less than 4%. It's also hard to imagine Samus being much weaker, although we never had anything too good to read her with last year (nor much in 2k5). However, I'm thinking that either Samus weakened a bit or Zelda/Samus had some sort of rSFF, since the strongest Samus we know I think could do better than 61% on Yuna, which is what Ganondorf managed on her the previous year. Anyway, there are two reasons I can think of why Zelda could've benefited from SFF than Ganondorf: one, Samus/Zelda was a female/female match, and two, Zelda is the namesake of her series, so she may be a bit better with dealing with SFF than Ganondorf for whatever reason (though it doesn't make any sense to me). To be fair, Yuna certainly stepped it up this past year...a lot. She beat Joanna Dark after her 360-launch game nearly as bad as Mario did, and she nearly matched Aeris against Zelda too. I don't know why it being a female/female match matters, unless you're thinking of Samus/Lara when you say that...and look who benefited in that match, ha. Other matches in the female bracket went as expected, like Terra/Kerrigan, so I don't wanna cast blame there...and for the namesake, let me ask this: how much better do you feel like Zelda would do against Link than Ganon did (or would again)? I feel like Zelda handles SFF better because of her often-used "kickassory" in SSBM, not to mention she is in LoZ and is even the namesake of it. I'm more of a fan of her being playable and loved in the #5-#7 game on the site being her SFF-deterrent than her name being in the title of the #1 series on the site...and I still like to think Luigi >= Bowser > Kirby helps support that notion. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/24/2007 9:29:31 AM | message detail |
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Part of Vincent's gain on Crono could be in part to him getting
weaker, since his day vote all of a sudden went from below average to
abysmal like the rest of Chrono Trigger. To be fair to Crono's day vote...he faced two Nintendo characters in SSB/M, a much newer Square character who's appeared in KH, and Sonic. His day-vote SHOULD look worse, ha. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/24/2007 9:34:52 AM | message detail |
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Crono faced Mario for four straight years, and his day vote never
looked worse than what it did last year. Auron's day vote was nothing
special against Sub-Zero, though he did look good against Alucard in
the day (but to be fair, nearly everyone does). Honestly, it seemed
like every day vote was a repeat of what the Chief did to him last
year. He never got torn apart that badly before that match. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2007 9:35:12 AM | message detail |
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He faced Mario every year of his contest career before then and talking in the immediate sense, faced Master Chief in 2005. Crono's day vote just looked worse this year. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/24/2007 9:36:11 AM | message detail |
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Err...two years ago, not last year. My calendar year doesn't change until we have a contest. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 4/24/2007 9:51:18 AM | message detail |
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I feel like a stats topic hobo. I don't care anymore and just wander around aimlessly... --- Currently playing: God of War 2, Fable, Ultimate Spiderman, FFVI Advance |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2007 10:01:03 AM | message detail |
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And just for some number-crunching because I'm bored... in 2004 Crono
had 54.5% on Mario after the first hour. He ended with 53.24%. That's a
whopping... barely more than a percent (no I do not use that weird and
accurate system that effectively doubles the percent numbers in
explaining the differences <.<), and he held the plumber to a
grand total of three five-minute updates over the course of the day. Come 2005, Crono had 48.27% on Mario at the first hour. He ended with a mighty 46.15% against his archrival, so that's a drop of a lil' more than two percent. Seeing a bit of disparity, though given Mario's power in 2k5 one might speculate much of that was a stronger day vote rather than a uniform increase across the board (which makes sense, Cloud actually did better at night against Link in 2k5 than he did in 2k4). He didn't face Mario in 2006... but he *did* face Bowser, and looking at his high point (rather than after the first hour, thanks new starting time!) of 62.05%, and his end of 57.44%, that's a downward spiral of 4.5%. Against Bowser. Call me crazy, but I think 2k4 Crono coulda done better. --- "TIME TO _____ THEN." - Karma Hunter, ABSENT 8 Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/24/2007 12:18:01 PM | message detail |
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A lot better. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy, Castlevania: Lament of the Innocence, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/24/2007 12:26:52 PM | message detail |
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All true, I'm not saying it can't be a sign of Crono being weaker, but
I just don't think it's AS bad as it looks offhand. Still though, I'll
pursue this argument a bit longer for the sake of devil's advocate: Yes, Crono lost more ground against Bowser in the day-time than he did against Mario...but also remember that Bowser gained 1.19% against Mario in 2k4 between the first hour and the end of their match. Bowser also outdid Mario in the same fashion in 2k5 against Solid Snake (2.76% to 4.64%)... ...but nobody's allowed to use the Sephiroth-comparison between the two. Nobody. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| ZFS | Posted 4/24/2007 1:52:54 PM | message detail |
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Part of Vincent's gain on Crono could be in part to him getting
weaker, since his day vote all of a sudden went from below average to
abysmal like the rest of Chrono Trigger. Poor Crono. All those years of hanging tough with Mario and now he's slowly drifting down... --- "Listen to my story. This may be our last chance." -- Tidus |
| Sir Crono | Posted 4/24/2007 3:08:31 PM | message detail |
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The problem is...Bowser doesn't generally have a good day vote. That's
what makes Crono's match against him look so bad. Bowser's match
against Mario doesn't really mean much to me since it's an SFF
situation. But if you want to talk about comparing day vote swings
between Mario characters, look at what Luigi did to Kirby compared to
what Bowser did. Bowser lost 2.47% against Kirby after the midway point
of the match, while Luigi lost less than a percent, and unlike Bowser,
actually kept building his lead. Bowser actually lost ground against Sigma, and he did absolutely nothing against the usually pitiful RE day vote against Leon Kennedy. --- As you wish. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/24/2007 7:44:41 PM | message detail |
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I didn't think that's the case -- I always thought it was more of
Bowser losing the night-vote to literally every character he ever faced
until this past year (and I'm not double-checking to make sure). --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 4/24/2007 8:06:59 PM | message detail |
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Unfortunately, Crono has no way of gaining a boost :/ --- Official Greatest GSB User Mike Awesome Tourney Winner WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/25/2007 12:28:45 AM | message detail |
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Save for a port or Virtual Console release, at least. Speaking of CT, I saw it earlier today on a rom site's Top 100 List (who else, right?) on which games get downloaded the most for each system...and CT was #5 on the list for the SNES. For kicks, I'l gonna list this site's Top Ten for most downloaded for afew systems (I don't see any systems newer than the Saturn here) since I saw afew interesting things. For the lists, FYI, I'm not counting the Japanese versions of games...that doesn't change much though: NES: 1. Mega Man (had 8,413 downloads) 2. Mega Man 6 3. Mega Man 2 4. Mega Man 5 5. Metal Gear 6. Excite Bike 7. River City Ransom 8. Mega Man 4 9. Mega Man 3 10. Ninja Gaiden 2 (5,262 downloads) Notably missing from the top 100: SUPER MARIO BROS. 1/2/3 SNES: (not counting the "games" of manga) 1. Mega Man X3 (22,491 downloads) 2. Star Ocean 3. Chrono Trigger 4. Castlevania - Dracula X 5. Street Fighter Alpha 2 6. Mega Man X 2 7. Mega Man X 8. Earthbound 9. Contra 3 10. Marvel Super Heroes - War of the Gems (12,925) Notably missing from the top 100: SUPER MARIO WORLD/ALL-STARS/YOSHI'S ISLAND GENESIS: 1. Streets of Rage 2 (19,133) 2. Contra: Hard Corps 3. Streets of Rage 3 4. Castlevania - Bloodlines 5. Gunstar Heroes 6. Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles - The Hyperstone Heist 7. Sonic and Knuckles & Sonic 3 8. Shining Force 9. Golden Axe 3 10. Samurai Shodown (9,048) Noticably missing from the top 100: SONIC 1/2 (though Sonic 1/2 mixed with S&K are both on) GAME BOY COLOR: 1. Mega Man Xtreme 2 (6,285) 2. Dragon Ball Z - Legendary Super Warriors 3. Dragon Warrior Monsters ... Pocket Monsters - Crystal Version (is this Japanese for Pokemon Crystal?) ... 4. Dragon Warrior III 5. Mega Man Xtreme 6. Harvest Moon 3 GBC 7. Castlevania - Legends 8. Adventure Island 9. Metal Slug 10. Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 - Cobi's Journey (2,764) Notably missing from the top 100: MARIO MARIO WHERE THE **** ARE YOU WHY'RE YOU OFF THESE?!? Well, considering how we always assumed Mega Man was heavily considered Nintendo, this might be more proof of it; on all three Nintendo systems, a Mega Man game is #1 on the most downloaded and look at how often you see Mega Man (or even Capcom games in general) through the lists...but if this is consistent through-out all rom-sites, then maybe Mega Man is more similar to Crono in the rom-regard than we once thought. Also, Mario does not have a single game of his in the Top 100 List of ANY of the lists. In fact, though I'm not rechecking, I don't remember seeing any LoZ or Metroid games either. Perhaps people would rather play new games on computers than classics they grew up with? I dunno, it's late and I need sleep, but maybe you guys'll like that info and make with it what you will. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/25/2007 2:40:04 AM | message detail |
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More than anything else, those lists seem to confirm the idea that
emulation mostly helps games that weren't mega-popular to start with.
S3&K was the worst selling Sonic game on the Genesis, MMX3 is the
rarest MMX game, etc. No Super Metroid is kinda weird though, considering its relatively low sales. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| voltch | Posted 4/25/2007 2:42:42 AM | message detail |
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so we never had any contest for a while now. what's the next one supposed to be about? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/25/2007 10:06:19 PM | message detail |
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I should look at a few of my favorite sites and see some lists for myself. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy 3, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/26/2007 3:19:20 PM | message detail |
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Argh, I was so close to becoming the owner of a Wii today. Super Paper Mario action was nearly mine! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/26/2007 10:15:30 PM | message detail |
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How close? ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy 3, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/26/2007 11:14:19 PM | message detail |
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I've come to realize that, if it ever releases, DN:F will not live up
to the hype. People will always say "Man, I liked it better before it
was released!"..... --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/27/2007 10:45:44 PM | message detail |
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DNF? >_> ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy 3, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| Janus5000 | Posted 4/27/2007 10:51:12 PM | message detail |
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Duke Nukem Forever. --- http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 IT'S SOME KIND OF A TEXAS PSYCHOBILLY FREAKOUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS |
| swirIdude | Posted 4/27/2007 10:56:19 PM | message detail |
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Hey guys it's been over 3 months since that contest thing! --- ENTER THE KAIBA CAVE! The sonic demo is awesome. Its a total reminder that bad things can always get worse. ~red13n |
| voltch | Posted 4/28/2007 12:18:44 AM | message detail |
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if it ever gets released how much advertising will DN:F get? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 4/28/2007 8:15:20 AM | message detail |
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If you want some good CS&D archive reads (courtesy of NGamer), read
the ones from SC2K5 (especially Round 2 and on). There's some very
interesting stuff... all the debates about the Nintendo boost, SFF,
Magus and his effects, and so forth... very nice compared to the
nitpicky x-stats stuff during the '06 discussions. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/28/2007 3:36:01 PM | message detail |
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Just avoid any topic right before Dante/Vincent... --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/28/2007 4:04:50 PM | message detail |
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I was reading through old stat topics, and I found my best prediction EVER! From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 6/28/2005 6:27:57 PM | Message Detail Tidus/Kirby was destined to be. Kirby is my 3rd favorite character, and now he will have faced my #1 (Squall Leonhart), #2 (Tidus), and #4 (Ramza Beoulve) characters. Expect him to face Luigi next year. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/28/2007 4:07:30 PM | message detail |
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And I found out the reason for the Female Bracket! From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 6/28/2005 7:13:44 PM | Message Detail Heh, the only good shot we have at a female/female match is Tifa/KOS-MOS (the ultimate TJF match, no less), with a distant shot at Terra/Kerrigan. No female/female matches in 2005! Okay, I'm bored. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/29/2007 9:04:52 AM | message detail |
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CNet blows. Just needed to be said. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/29/2007 1:53:07 PM | message detail |
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Spider-Man beating Mario Party?! Watch out! Spidey's a Noble Nine breaker, baby! Pirates of the Caribbean 3 next to last? BOOOOOOOO! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/29/2007 2:24:37 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2736 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2735 lawlmijesus that means aslan is teh fodder so jesus would be fodder too by xstats Nah, on a serious note, I'm actually surprised Chronicles of Narnia got dead-last in the second poll. I thought it had a bit more backing than THAT. --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/29/2007 6:21:42 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of Chronicles of Narnia...I just found out I am now cast in a
staged performance of the book/movie about The Lion, The Witch, And The
Wardrobe. Watch out people, you're debatin' stats with Centaur now! --- This is my main account, but I see all the cool people doing it...... HaRRicH |
| Haste_2 | Posted 4/29/2007 11:43:24 PM | message detail |
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I was reading through old stat topics, and I found my best prediction EVER! DANG YOU, LEONHART! I was gonna mention that prophecy first, but at that time, the site was down! =P --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/30/2007 5:31:01 AM | message detail |
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It's only right I should take credit for my own prophecy! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Haste_2 | Posted 4/30/2007 5:39:22 AM | message detail |
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Whoops, that sounded wrong. I mean... I was gonna mention -your-
prophecy, and I would've given you the credit, rather than you having
to give it to yourself. =P --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
