GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 438
| ZFS | Posted 3/16/2007 12:14:17 AM | message detail |
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E3 is still about four months away. >_> --- Transcending Time; Eternal Life. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2007 12:22:16 AM | message detail |
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Close enough! ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/16/2007 1:42:26 AM | message detail |
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So? The Series Contest was during E3 last year, and last year's E3 was one of the biggest ever. --- The Office > you. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 3/16/2007 2:03:48 AM | message detail |
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O_O @ Wii Play for being #2 this month. --- PANCAKES > WAFFLES |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/16/2007 9:30:16 PM | message detail |
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True enough. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| ZFS | Posted 3/16/2007 9:32:18 PM | message detail |
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So I'm all in the God Mode here, so what
are all you nuts thinking about Kratos this upcoming year now that God
of War II is released to the public and everyone is loving it? --- Transcending Time; Eternal Life. |
| _Mega64_ | Posted 3/16/2007 9:32:30 PM | message detail |
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Ultimecia, Gruntilda, Carmen Sandiego, the chick from Battletoads,
whatever generic fighting games you want, maybe even Dark Cloud from
FF3 and Mother Brain. This would be one awesome contest, trust me. --- Currently playing: FF6A, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Castlevania: PoR, Scurge: Hive, Super Mario World (VC) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 9:38:53 PM | message detail |
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It's difficult to gauge Kratos considering the 2006 stats were so
messed up. I still think something weird happened in Snake/Sonic, but I
don't know how much of an effect it has. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| ZFS | Posted 3/16/2007 9:46:20 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. Looking at those stats turns up some pretty goofy looking things.
I can't even recall the general reception to a lot of those later
matches. The controversy was that Snake undershot a couple of those
matches (Mega Man and Sonic), right? --- Transcending Time; Eternal Life. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 9:56:38 PM | message detail |
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Well, everyone thought the Mega Man match was fine. It's just that
after the terrible contest he had, it's difficult to accept that he's
somehow almost equal with Sonic and managed to finish ABOVE Crono. Plus, the Tifa stuff with Samus messed up the female stats, and the possibility that either Zelda overperformed and/or Snake underperformed against Samus. In other words, too many factors to consider, and our stats suck as a result. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/16/2007 9:58:29 PM | message detail |
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I see the Female Villain Contest has once again reared its ugly head in this topic. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33847108 Now playing: Final Fantasy III DS, Rogue Galaxy |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 9:59:29 PM | message detail |
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Ironic that a Female Villains Contest is considered to be ugly. Beatrix wins, by the way. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/16/2007 10:00:24 PM | message detail |
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I think Kratos closes the gap on Dante after GoW2. God of War got a lot
more fanfare than DMC and DMC2 combined, and GoW2 is looking to be a
monster. Dante might be a bit more likable as a character, but I think
GoW's popularity tops Devil May Cry's. Not saying Kratos will be at Dante's level, as Dante has years of contest exposure under his belt, but Kratos is definitely on the same path. --- Currently playing: God of War 2, Fable, Ultimate Spiderman, FFVI Advance |
| ZFS | Posted 3/16/2007 10:01:08 PM | message detail |
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In other words, too many factors to consider, and our stats suck as a result. In conclusion, kratos > squall aw yeah do you believe ! --- Transcending Time; Eternal Life. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 10:01:43 PM | message detail |
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The thought of Kratos potentially being a match for Yoshi seems a bit
much for me to swallow at this point. Maybe he could give Luigi a big
fight though. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| _Mega64_ | Posted 3/16/2007 10:01:56 PM | message detail |
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Beatrix wins, by the way. She's as much a villain as Magus. Not only does she end up on your side, but she ends up screwing lardass Steiner. She's technically not a villain. Brahne is iffy herself. Kuja probably has a great shot at doing well, as long as he doesn't go against the female Crazy Hand. See how awesome the Female Villain Contest is going to be? --- Currently playing: FF6A, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Castlevania: PoR, Scurge: Hive, Super Mario World (VC) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 10:02:46 PM | message detail |
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No, Beatrix wins. No other way around it. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| ZFS | Posted 3/16/2007 10:07:28 PM | message detail |
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I'd agree with Kratos definitely closing the gap. GoW2 isn't going to
be enough to put him up there with Dante, but I don't think he'll end
up too far off. I'm not going to bother looking at those stats, but I
think Kratos could squeak one out against Ryu, or at least give him one
great match, if they faced each other again. GoW2 should do a whole
mess of good for him this year. That sucker got one million pre-orders, according to Sony. --- Transcending Time; Eternal Life. |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/16/2007 10:09:02 PM | message detail |
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The thought of Kratos potentially being a match for Yoshi seems a
bit much for me to swallow at this point. Maybe he could give Luigi a
big fight though. Well if Riku can give a strong showing against Yoshi, I don't see why Kratos couldn't either. But anyways, I said that Kratos would close the gap... not that he would be at Dante's level. Give Kratos the same amount of time to saturate that Dante has, and he'd be just as formidable. I mean, looking at their common performances against Ryu, Dante beats Kratos about 53.5-46.5. And that's with Dante being around for over 2 years and 2 games under his belt to Kratos's one. Now with God of War 2 out, I'd definitely say that Kratos is catching up. --- Currently playing: God of War 2, Fable, Ultimate Spiderman, FFVI Advance |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/16/2007 10:17:35 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I don't doubt that Kratos could do something along the lines of what Riku did last year. He wouldn't lose badly, for sure. --- "Now...bring me that horizon." |
| transience | Posted 3/16/2007 11:09:06 PM | message detail |
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don't you think that screwing Steiner automatically makes her a villain? --- xyzzy "Theo is well again." - FFDragon |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/17/2007 1:37:06 AM | message detail |
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Time for a hot NCAA vs GameFAQs update! NCAA #1 Seeds (vs 16 seeds) 92-0 GameFAQ's Noble Nine (against outside competition) 116-0 The streaks live on! --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/17/2007 1:47:32 AM | message detail |
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Pfft, it might be impressive if the NCAA #1 seeds never lost to anyone
outside of THEMSELVES. Heh. Beating 16 seeds? If it weren't for that
darn Halo, every single 1 seed in the history of our contests could
have done that! ...whaddya mean I'm not comparing them correctly!? Didn't Ceej say any character can win, just depends on who shows up to vote? HE WOULDN'T LIE TO ME --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2007 12:46:30 PM | message detail |
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Hey, compare 1/8-9-seed matches next time! --- The Office > you. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2007 12:47:31 PM | message detail |
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Also...I want a Female Villain Quote contest ASAP. --- The Office > you. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 3/17/2007 12:50:06 PM | message detail |
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All Gruntilda quote final four FTW. --- http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 IT'S SOME KIND OF A TEXAS PSYCHOBILLY FREAKOUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS |
| _Mega64_ | Posted 3/17/2007 12:50:38 PM | message detail |
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Also...I want a Female Villain Quote contest ASAP. I don't think GameFAQs could handle the pure awesomeness such a contest would bring. Not to mention Gruntilda's rhymes would constitute 90% of the entries. --- Currently playing: FF6A, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Castlevania: PoR, Scurge: Hive, Super Mario World (VC) |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2007 10:55:27 PM | message detail |
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No more females, jeez. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| Big Bob | Posted 3/17/2007 11:01:03 PM | message detail |
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With the rumored NiGHTS sequel, we so need to get NiGHTS into the next character battle. ... Geez, it must really suck to be named "NiGHTS". At least it was in the Games contest. --- "Kiddy" is just a word fanboys use to justify the lack of Nintendo in their lives. |
| Osfan | Posted 3/18/2007 6:56:19 AM | message detail |
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ok so say we get NiGHTS in who would you take in a NiGHTS-Phoenix Wright match? --- "I'll do it with my magic!" - Tellah FF4 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2007 12:21:33 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix, probably easily. So...did we ever come to a consensus on the five NRT winners, or did we fight over that 'til the very end? I forget. --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 3/18/2007 4:59:29 PM | message detail |
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NiGHTS v Phoenix? I'd take whoever was the better seed (y halo thar bracket voting). --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2007 9:44:59 PM | message detail |
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~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| _Mega64_ | Posted 3/19/2007 1:47:08 PM | message detail |
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I'm gonna rally to get a Mii in since if one did make it, it would be interesting to see where a Mii would stand in the stats. --- Currently playing: Sonic and the Secret Rings, Castlevania: PoR, Scurge: Hive, Super Mario World (VC), Lost Magic |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/19/2007 2:13:46 PM | message detail |
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AKI Man, Awesome Possum, Klaymen, and probably even an SFF'd Waluigi would beat a Mii. Okay, that might be a little rough, but...I certainly wouldn't expect much from a Mii. --- The Office > you. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/19/2007 2:50:59 PM | message detail |
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That's an interesting concept, actually. The trick would be to make it clear that the character in question is your
Mii, in which case you'd have to be casting a vote against the only
videogame character you've ever invented. Plus you have good memories
with that character from the times you used him to beat your friends at
Wii Sports and Wii Play. Hm... I could actually see a Mii doing pretty
decently, under those circumstances. --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| _Mega64_ | Posted 3/19/2007 3:32:41 PM | message detail |
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Technically, if it was you who was the Mii, it wouldn't be allowed since you didn't originate from a video game. Everyone seems to be leaning toward Matt from Wii Sports. I think the whole novelty of a Mii from Wii Sports making the contest is worth the nomination drive. It's kinda like Nidoran F last year. It's not like many other new characters are going to win, so if we're gonna have fodder, might as well be interesting fodder. Matt would be coasting almost purely on Wii backing, besides from maybe the occasional pro-black vote. He'd obviously choke against someone known, but against a nobody I think he'd have a chance. Or he might go Tanner, which is always enjoyable. Either way, he'd be a much more intriguing addition than most fodder people want to nominate. --- Currently playing: Sonic and the Secret Rings, Castlevania: PoR, Scurge: Hive, Super Mario World (VC), Lost Magic |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/19/2007 4:16:15 PM | message detail |
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I'm going to use this lull in the action to inform everyone of a hot new lol x-stats update! Of course everyone knows about the Simulator itself, which has been serving up extrapolated results lo these past 13 months. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ What you may not know are some of the additions I've made in the past few months, since the end of the last Character Battle. The first and most obvious is the Complete X-stats listing. I'd always had a list of all the values thrown together, but that was a mess... Zelda the series, Zelda the character a few times, and Zelda the game all together in one list. I've split that into the Character-Only All-Time Stats, which is much more useful, http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?type=c alongside listings of just the Games, just the Series, or the Series and Games together. All standings also come in 'Raw' flavor, wherever available. But the listing would hardly be complete without individual rankings for every season, so a little while back I made the long-awaited update to get each of those set up and linked in as well, from http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?year=2006c and so on. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/19/2007 4:16:58 PM | message detail |
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But my most recent update, and the one I think might be most fun of all, deals with Character Histories.
I had a rough version up before, where if you pulled the character's
name from the dropdown box on top you'd get to see their match pic from
that year along with their final adjusted x-stat value. And that was
fine and good, until the other day I wanted to compare Mario vs Samus
indirectly, based only on their common opponents. In other words I was
saying, "forget x-stats! they're a useful tool, sure, but I only want
to see concrete results right now... what have these two characters actually
managed in head-to-head matchups?" Which seems to me a common
sentiment. So after a major reorganization of my database, here is the
kind of full Contest History I'm able to produce for every character
we've seen, in the click of a button: http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Samus As you see, you get the years alongside their final match pic (if you believe in pic factor this is of course crucial, because as you know it's only the match you lose that determines your value), followed by adjusted x-stat value. But because some question the adjustments made, as well as yearly 'strength inflation' in order to compare across years, I also include the character's rank in that year as well as their unadjusted value. But below is where it gets really fun. There's now a section for Complete Results, which displays just what it sounds like- the result of every single matchup Samus (or whoever) has ever been involved in. And since the further goal is to create a visual representation of how that x-stat strength was determined, the results continue even after a character loses. This allows you to see why even though (for example) Ganon lost to Vincent, because Vince did so well against Sonic, who in turn looked improved against Super-Snake, who in turn made Samus look worse than Mario last year, Ganon still earns a respectable 35%. If you want to know more about your character's opponent, clicking their name will take you to their own History and complete results. However, I've also added a little code so that now all you have to do is hover your mouse over a given opponent, and their x-stat and rank from that season will pop up automatically! So you say, wow, a 58% smashing of Squall in 2003... I wonder how far down that place him? Mouse over and you see that Squall still earned a 31.72% that year, good for 16th place on the rankings. After the final matchup is listed (which is always that year's Championship), I've included links to both the year's Stats and its Bracket, so you're just a click away from seeing the "big picture." The brackets are formatted pretty ugly right now, but the results are accurate so I'm letting them sit for the time-being. And just for fun, underneath I've tagged on the character's all-time record in Contest matches, along with a winning percentage. Naturally that doesn't mean alot, since sometimes Crono gets stuck playing Mario already by the 3rd round or whatnot, but it's still cool to see. So, here are the Noble Nine ranks for everyone who's been involved in all the Summer brackets, based on win percentage! Pretty awesome Histories on all of them. 1. Samus - 18-4, .826 http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Samus 2. Snake - 18-5, .783 http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Snake 3. Crono - 17-5, .773 http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Crono 4. Sonic - 15-5, .750 http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Sonic 4. Mega Man - 17-5, .750 http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Mega%20Man Personal favorite is probably Crono... what a great set of pics. You can get to anyone history page by clicking their name on an x-stats rank, selecting their name for the drop down box, or my personal favorite, which is just typing the name into the URL. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/19/2007 4:17:16 PM | message detail |
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BONUS! If you can think of a character who is listed on the
site, even though she/he's never been involved in a "normal" 64-person
bracket matchup, you earn a very special error message! --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/19/2007 4:26:27 PM | message detail |
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Not even math itself can contain Solano! Warning: Division by zero in /var/www/html/xstats/ranks.php on line 166 0 - 0 [0.000] --- xyzzy™ You try anything funny, and my AMP will explode on you." - Luster Soldier |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/19/2007 5:58:46 PM | message detail |
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You need to fix Ken -- you have him linked via Samus to a blank page,
though the drop-box works for him. In other words, replace any link you
have that ends in "Ken" with "Ken%20Masters" and you should be fine. Otherwise, looks great! --- The Office > you. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/19/2007 9:29:06 PM | message detail |
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Awesome update! ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 3/20/2007 12:49:36 PM | message detail |
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So...it's been two months since the Quote Contest was announced. --- "Four of you have tried to kill me in the past. One of you succeeded." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2007 1:07:42 PM | message detail |
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It won't be long now! --- The Office > you. |
| Osfan | Posted 3/20/2007 7:22:03 PM | message detail |
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So since the discussion is so lively i'll stir things up with the
latest flame war on gamefaqs :-] What will Dmc4 on 360 mean for both
Dante and the new main character? I mean who cares about Capcom jumping
ship and Ps3 sinking or not i want know how it effects the far more
important character battle! --- "I'll do it with my magic!" - Tellah FF4 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2007 7:40:02 PM | message detail |
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I'll be honest: I'm biased against the PS3, so I like to hear that
news, especially since I plan to get a 360 this year. As for Dante, I
hear he's not even going to be in it...but it can't hurt him, surely. --- The Office > you. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2007 7:42:07 PM | message detail |
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Also, it wouldn't be the first time Capcom took a potentially-huge game
and jumped ship to a more popular system with an exclusive (well hello
there, RE4). Yeesh though, at least Nintendo was able to keep RE4
exclusive for about nine months..... --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 3/20/2007 7:42:17 PM | message detail |
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DMC4 on 360 = pure ****ing win, considering I just picked up a 360, and
don't plan on getting a PS3 anytime soon. If MGS4 goes to the 360 I'll
bust a nut and never stop laughing when I hear the name "Sony." As far as character contests go... it shouldn't really help Dante any significant amount, but it can't hurt. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/20/2007 7:45:29 PM | message detail |
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I hope and pray to the video game god (which would be...probably
Fireball-Mario or Super Knuckles, ha) that MGS4 goes to the 360.
Otherwise, barring a huge surge in popularity and ownership for the PS3
while it still has room to redeem itself, I doubt I'll ever get to play
it. --- The Office > you. |
