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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 438

HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:10:40 PM | message detail
I'd feel more confident in Zell if I had ever ever ever ever eeevvveeerrr heard of any interest in Zell outside of the FF8-poll. I dunno how that happens while Laguna, Riona, Quistis, Seifer, and Squall have all gotten some decent attention here I've seen...but that just makes me real curious. That reason would have made me pick Seifer > Zell without KH2, though the board's say-so doesn't always mean a thing.

Seriously, why have I never heard anybody say anything about Zell? I don't even know if Zell is a man or woman!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:10:42 PM | message detail
Meh, Auron crushes him. I've got no delusions concerning Balthier or FFXII's strength. There's still a bit of a chance he doesn't end up the strongest character from that game... supplanted by Basch if that's the case (though I traditionally put Basch below Ashe like most).

I'm just staying hopeful for Balthier and getting a good read on what will hopefully become a contest mainstay in the future.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:12:21 PM | message detail
Balthier will own faces.

You'll see !!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:12:24 PM | message detail
Zell is cool and awesome to use in battle, though his face-tattoo always bugged the hell out of me. It's not inconceivable he could be above Rinoa, especially with how wide open FFVIII looks to me at this point.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:12:48 PM | message detail
Balthier/Vivi, who wins?
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wavedash101 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:13:30 PM | message detail
Hay but Balthier es gunna b in da FFT PSP guyz...tootlly mak up teh diferens rite ther

Plus we'll have to see how well FFXII RW does...it looks like it could either totally tank or be a good game...but it will sell well, thats to be assured

Not that I actually think Balthier, even with this, stands any kind of chance against Auron...

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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:13:46 PM | message detail
Gah, I want to say Balthier... but he's untested competition from as-of-now more unpopular game (though more recent)... and Vivi has BMF.

...I can't bet against BMF there.
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transcience | Posted 2/28/2007 11:13:52 PM | message detail
sorry bud!

uhhh give me Balthier now and Vivi in a year or two
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:14:31 PM | message detail
Boy are you suckers going to be disappointed when Balthier beats the snot out of Crono this year!
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transcience | Posted 2/28/2007 11:14:53 PM | message detail
hey Heroic Mario give Kleenex his account back
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:15:33 PM | message detail
Which brings up another question I've thought about, what order do you rank the remaining Noble Nine guys for this year?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:16:22 PM | message detail
Vivi > Balthier.

Again, star of FF9 + Black Mage + KH2 > FFXII
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transcience | Posted 2/28/2007 11:16:57 PM | message detail
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Mario
Snake
Samus (Samus wins directly)
Sonic
Crono
Mega Man
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:17:27 PM | message detail
Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Mario
Samus
Snake
Sonic
Crono
Mega Man

I don't know if that's what the stats say, but that's the way I think the NN will turn out.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:17:29 PM | message detail
I said remaining, but whatever!
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Big Bob | Posted 2/28/2007 11:17:43 PM | message detail
Is Snake considered remaining?

Snake > Sonic > Mega Man > Crono

Unless CT gets released for the virtual console. Then put Crono above MM.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:17:46 PM | message detail
Snake > Sonic > Crono > Mega Man for me.

I guess Sonic/Crono/Mega Man is still open, and it's not like Snake has proven to be consistent yet...

...oh, c'mon, it's not as fun cheering for Snake when he's not an underdog.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:19:28 PM | message detail
There's still a bit of a chance he doesn't end up the strongest character from that game...

No. Really, there's not. None at all. There's exactly zero chance that Balthier isn't the most popular character from FFXII. This on Board 8? That's everywhere for people who have played the game.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:19:48 PM | message detail
Vivi was in KH2?





LINK >>>>>>>>>...

...>>>>>> Cloud > Sephiroth > Mario (who will be closer to Sephiroth now than 2k5) > Samus >= Solid Snake > Crono >= Sonic >= Mega Man >= Ganon


Top Ten will have to do.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:20:34 PM | message detail
On the subject of matches involving Balthier, Auron rocks his face and he beats Vivi. That's what I'd go with.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:21:29 PM | message detail
If Vivi got a damn thing from his KH2 appearance, Seifer is gonna be a frigging powerhouse.
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transcience | Posted 2/28/2007 11:21:43 PM | message detail
Sonic is going to be pretty strong next year, methinks. he'll be on an island to himself, a good bit ahead of MM and Crono.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:22:03 PM | message detail
Yes, Vivi was in KH2.

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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:22:28 PM | message detail
Vivi was in KH2?

In one of the stupidest, most insigificant roles imaginable.

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Big Bob | Posted 2/28/2007 11:22:48 PM | message detail
I couldn't get into FFXII at ALL, yet I still love Balthier. I quit playing the game and I still love him.

I'd easily take him over Vivi.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:23:14 PM | message detail
Vivi got the same boost from KH2 that Seifer did. Seifer probably got a slight more recognition, but that shouldn't matter. Don't forget that Vivi kicked Seifer's ass in that fight there, and was Roxas' first real boss fight! >_>
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:24:13 PM | message detail
In one of the stupidest, most insigificant roles imaginable.

That would be Tifa. At least Vivi is involved in something, not like Ms. "Hey guys, I'm in the game for no reason at all kbye!".
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wavedash101 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:24:18 PM | message detail
Thats tough...SSBB and all that jazz >_>

Assuming SSBB isnt out and no new characters are named (just speculation)

Link (lol PH, like he needs it)
Cloud (Crisis Core aint gonna make up this gap)
Sephy (though Snake should be here, look at poll lol)
Mario (woohoo SMG...hopefully sometimes this year, plus SPM as well)
Samus (MP3 and SSB fanbase back her against the lower 4)
Snake (lol SSBB and MGS4)
Sonic (SatSR is getting positive reviews, though we need a read on how well its selling...and SSBB is a very good possiblity)
Crono (Remake or sequel sometime this decade plz)
MM (really could use a SSBB boost...)
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:26:09 PM | message detail
That would be Tifa. At least Vivi is involved in something, not like Ms. "Hey guys, I'm in the game for no reason at all kbye!".

No, Tifa's role, while not particularly good, was not nearly as insigificant, forgettable, and downright silly as much as Vivi's was. Did he even have so much as a line? Because I can't remember him even speaking a word. He was just sort of there as the tag along sidekick. He's one of those characters who shouldn't benefit at all from KH2.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:26:47 PM | message detail
I think Mega Man is -- over the course of this generation -- going to start getting lost in the mix with the near-elites of the contest, with Ganon likely being the most eager to smash the Noble Nine now with LoZ:TP out. I also think the same for Crono and Sonic, though not so much...and I don't know why I gave Crono the edge there; Crono/Sonic should be equal, with an ever-so-slight edge to Sonic.
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wavedash101 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:27:11 PM | message detail
He spoke...just not anything memorable >_>
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:29:24 PM | message detail
What Vivi did:

- Get possessed and kicked Seifer's ass out of the tournament
- Fought Roxas in the final in one of his first real fights
- Glitched up and multiplied to like 100 little Vivi's and attacked Roxas

What Tifa did:

- Knock on a wall

I think the result are quite obvious here.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:29:36 PM | message detail
results*
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:30:58 PM | message detail
And since this is the stats topic, congrats TRE for becoming a mod!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:31:00 PM | message detail
If knocking on a door let Tifa get 49% on Samus, then Cloud should have shut Link out last year.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:31:06 PM | message detail
Upon further inspection, he had five lines.

Vivi: H-Help! The sandlot! It's Seifer! Somebody please help us!

Vivi: Huh? ...How did I get here?

Vivi: What is it, Roxas?

Vivi: Oh, did you need this, Roxas? Planning on getting in some practice, I bet.

Vivi: Huh? So...many of me? I don't get it. Anyway, I'm done with this, Roxas.
You can take your time.

<_<

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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/28/2007 11:32:07 PM | message detail
Seifer was definitely more prominent than Vivi. He gets a fair bit of focus and lines, whereas Vivi really only really gets any attention in DA STRURGGLE lolz

Sonic's had his Next-Gen offerings for PS3 and X360, and then there's the recent Sonic and the Secret Rings for Wii. Bad reviews or not (and the latter isn't exactly getting reviled), they're high-profile games, and the better of the two happens to be for the hottest system out right now (and it kinda has a derth of games, which means that many Wii owners are likely to pick up Sonic in addition to their now-beaten copy of Twilight Princess).

It's too much for Mega Man and Crono... Sonic beats them without too much of a sweat, loses in a closer one to Snake. Not too much else that can be said.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:32:09 PM | message detail
If knocking on a door let Tifa get 49% on Samus, then Cloud should have shut Link out last year.

Tifa didn't gain anything from KH2. It was just a completely screwed up match, that's all.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:33:01 PM | message detail
Psh, Tifa did so well because she's a wonderful, beautiful, well-developed character with personality to spare.

Duh.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:35:07 PM | message detail
What Tifa did:

- Knock on a wall



Knocked on a wall, which was infinitely more memorable than the entirety of Vivi's screentime, participated in the Heartless fight (where FF characters join you), was apart of the Cloud sidequest where you fight Sephiroth, and something else.... ...... oh, the Coliseum.


But like I said, Tifa's role wasn't great -- but neither was Vivi's. In Vivi's case, it wasn't better, more memorable, or even cooler. He's not getting anything from it.

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Big Bob | Posted 2/28/2007 11:35:29 PM | message detail
Tifa was a psycho in KHII.

*knocks on wall*

*kicks it hard*
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:35:59 PM | message detail
Hey guys, you smell that? Smells like HM's anti-FF9 bias!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 2/28/2007 11:36:20 PM | message detail
lol vlado

Alright, now to completely change subjects...

If we do get 10 nominations this year, who will you guys nominate?

As of right now, I got the 5 characters from the rally, Fox, Knuckles, PoP, and 2 more to think about.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:36:35 PM | message detail
Hey, Tissue, Vivi is the one thing I like about FFIX !!

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wavedash101 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:40:00 PM | message detail
Vivi's badass hat would give him the win no doubt
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/28/2007 11:40:55 PM | message detail
Ha, I know, ZSS and all -- I keed, I keed.



My nominations right now:
Raiden
Fox
Mewtwo
Diddy Kong
Seifer
Nightmare
Knuckles

I'll save my other three for later.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:41:00 PM | message detail
Seifer
Raiden
Fox
GILGAMESH
Balthier

Those are the only guys I'm set on nominating at this point.
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ZFS | Posted 2/28/2007 11:42:53 PM | message detail
If we do get 10 nominations this year, who will you guys nominate?

I'm thinking something like...

1.) Balthier Bunansa (Final Fantasy XII)
2.) Kefka (Final Fantasy VI)
3.) Magus (Chrono Trigger)
4.) Akuma (Street Fighter)
5.) Ashe Dalmasca (Final Fantasy XII)
6.) Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII)
7.) Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2)

Roughly. They'll probably change -- except for the two Nomination Rally guys -- by the time nominations roll around. I'll end up remembering someone I missed or forget to nominated one of the one's here or something.

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wavedash101 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:43:06 PM | message detail
My noms right now

Raiden
Mewtwo
Fox
Balthier
HK-47 (always)

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/28/2007 11:43:51 PM | message detail
wavedash you signed up to nominate Gilgamesh !!
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