GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 437
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 1:54:16 PM | message detail |
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I wish the Returner runner-up would have a shot against #4 in the Round
Robin for a nomination position...c'este la vie. We've seen how the two
wildcards from this contest went already, so I won't press the
issue...but maybe next year. --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 1:55:30 PM | message detail |
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Amen... hopefully everyone just nominates both of them and forgets
about Nightmare, granted that kind of takes away the point of the
rally, but goddamn, I'm doing it. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| ZFS | Posted 2/26/2007 1:56:18 PM | message detail |
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PLZ FORGET ABOUT FODDERMARE --- "It took hundreds to kill me, but I killed by the thousands." -- Luca Blight |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 2:01:40 PM | message detail |
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Ha...I remember when there was once talks about Nightmare being the
strongest fighter since Ryu, too. Granted, I believe it was just Ulti
saying that, but dammit, I read it with my own eyes! --- The Office > you. |
| swirIdude | Posted 2/26/2007 2:11:22 PM | message detail |
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Nightmare is cool and all, which is probably why he gets the support
that he does. Still, he can't win on looks and awesome name alone. Ivy
getting whipped by Tifa shows to me that Soul Calibur does not have the
strength of something like Street Fighter. I don't expect Nightmare to
do much, and would definetly pick Akuma to beat him. --- ENTER THE KAIBA CAVE! The sonic demo is awesome. Its a total reminder that bad things can always get worse. ~red13n |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 2:15:23 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo Akuma Seifer Nightmare Diddy --- xyzzy |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/26/2007 2:51:57 PM | message detail |
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Diddy can only really compete with DK within the DKC series, which
is probably DK's biggest source of strength outside of his icon
status...but even within those games, I'd take DK > Diddy. Uh...why? Diddy's the star of two of them, while DK's only the star of one, and even in the first game Diddy's a far better character. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 4:39:08 PM | message detail |
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Regardless... it's DK. I mean sure its possible
for Diddy to be stronger than him, but nearly everything in the
universe points to him not. I'd love it to be so, because both those
apes are so damn awesome it's not even funny, but even if Diddy had
appeared in all the same games as DK save for SSB, he's probably still
at a disadvantage. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/26/2007 4:48:49 PM | message detail |
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Heh, my nominations are probably going to get filled up nominating
snubs. Hopefully Ceej doesn't give us some bogus contest this year that
messes up our amount of nominations again. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 4:50:31 PM | message detail |
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Donkey Kong gains more from the DKC series simply by virtue of the game being called Donkey Kong Country. Seriously. If Diddy could even break 35% on the big lug before SFF, I'd be amazed. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 4:52:16 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe Diddy Kong is even getting consideration for
nominations. not only are we overloaded with Nintendo characters, but
he's going to be weak. none of his games are especially popular on GF.
his ceiling to me would be, like, Ridley. --- xyzzy |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/26/2007 4:58:17 PM | message detail |
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DKC and DKC2 are pretty popular on this site, aren't they. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/26/2007 4:58:27 PM | message detail |
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? --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:00:20 PM | message detail |
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not compared to countless other Nintendo titles. it's certainly below
all the major Zelda, Mario, Metroid and Smash games, and probably a few
others besides that. I might put it on the same level of a Kirby game,
which got smashed by Metroid in the Series Contest. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:05:55 PM | message detail |
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I would take a DKC game or two to outdo any Kirby game...but I wouldn't
think their series would be too different in strength. Ole' tranny's
guess is about like mine when it comes to that. I don't think Diddy would get SFF'd much, if at all...but I agree that Diddy wouldn't be that close to DK. Diddy may have been the star of two of the DKC games, but ultimately, they're still DK's games -- that accounts for something. --- The Office > you. |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:07:45 PM | message detail |
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Donkey Kong is a gaming icon, he's had tons more games, the games Diddy stars in are named after him and
Donkey Kong has a spot in SSBM (and maybe SSB?). yeah, I can't see
Diddy coming even close to him - I don't know about SFF or whatnot, but
Donkey Kong simply has everything Diddy has and then a lot more. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:12:19 PM | message detail |
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I agree -- Diddy can only compete with DK in the DKC games, and I would
still take DK > Diddy just in them. Regardless, much like how many
of us argued that Sub-Zero and Vincent getting their own games is a
testament of their fanbases behind him, Diddy is similar to that. He's
certainly got a fanbase and likability of sorts...but it's nothing that
DK hasn't matched or trumped before, and probably for quite awhile
longer than Diddy has too. --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:12:28 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe Diddy Kong is even getting consideration for
nominations. not only are we overloaded with Nintendo characters, but
he's going to be weak. none of his games are especially popular on GF.
his ceiling to me would be, like, Ridley. That's just absolutely absurd to me... I mean honestly, what the hell had Ridley ever done? It's not like I really think Diddy will be strong, but Ridley his ceiling? That's ludicrous to me. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:13:55 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and yes, SSB too...not to mention Mario Kart 64 (and almost in Super Mario Kart...damn you DK Jr.!). I think what really seals the deal though is DK was in Super Mario Strikers while Diddy missed out..... --- The Office > you. |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:14:24 PM | message detail |
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that's the whole point -- what has Diddy Kong done? --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:17:22 PM | message detail |
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Ya know, Ridley probably isn't that far off from DK. It would be 60-40
at worst before SFF, and I actually wouldn't imagine SFF happening
since both seemingly anything related to DK or Metroid are so goddamned
awful with SFF. It all depends on where you have DK, but MC last year
showed us about where he should be..... --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:20:19 PM | message detail |
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that's the whole point -- what has Diddy Kong done? Starred in DKC2, by far the fan favorite of the DKC series (where DK is most popular too), Diddy Kong Racing, numerous Mario games, DK64. Ridley is just some guy you fight at the end of some Metroid games. I'm sorry, but the comparison isn't even close.... I was always dumbfounded as to why people thought Ridley could have done anything in the villains contest, and quite frankly, I still am. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/26/2007 5:23:23 PM | message detail |
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I would not take Diddy over Diablo no matter what so I doubt he's that far ahead of Ridley. --- Demyx is better than Axel. Just like Rufus Shinra is better than me for winning the Guru Contest. |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:25:07 PM | message detail |
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I don't think any of those games are very popular. DKC/2 is about the
only one I'd be even curious about in a game contest -- the rest, eh.
as I said earlier, I might put DKC on par with the Kirby series, which
got doubled up and then some by Metroid. but what it really comes down to is that there's just better stuff to nominate than fourth-tier Nintendo characters. nothing against them, but it's like nominating Aya Brea or something at this point when there's so much better Square blood out there. same with Nintendo. who is Diddy Kong going to beat, or even give an interesting match to? he's either going to get SFFed into the ground by a Nintendo character or get blasted by the Leon Kennedys of the world. I'd rather see someone that at least has a chance of being strong, such as Akuma or Mewtwo. --- xyzzy |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:25:10 PM | message detail |
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Alright, but no one is ever going to get me to believe ****ing Ridley would beat Diddy. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:26:56 PM | message detail |
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Don't remind me of how Ridley ruined my perfect bracket..... I'm a big fan of the original DKC, myself -- the other two were nice, but they didn't stand out to me like DKC1 did for reasons probably related to first impressions. DK's in every Mario game Diddy is in then quite afew more. DK had MK64 to shun some of DKR's help for Diddy. I simply don't think DK64 did much for either Kong, but if it did I would imagine it to be fairly even. What are Diddy's roles in some of DK's other games, like Donkey Konga or Mario VS Donkey Kong? --- The Office > you. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:27:56 PM | message detail |
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I don't think any of those games would do very well on their own in a
games contest, but that doesn't stop Diddy from being a much larger
prescence than Ridley... it's not like he really has all that much to
live up to. Sure the Metroid games are far more popular, and that's why
Samus > DK, or at least a large part of the reason why, but the gap
between Samus and Ridley in their games is about a million times larger
than the gap between DK and Diddy. As for seeing other people in... Mewtwo finished number one in the rally, and I agree about Akuma, but other than that, who is there really? I can't think of anyone particularly deserving, but if you can name someone, go for it --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 5:30:50 PM | message detail |
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Diddy is a fan-favorite in DKC, but DK still outdoes him handily even in the context of that game. Dixie
is a fan-favorite, too, remember (and really, there was no reason to
use Diddy in DKC2 while Dixie was there). No way Diddy's on Donkey's
level even in the context of the DKC games alone. Now take into account that while the DKC games may be the biggest piece of DK's strength, it probably doesn't even account for a quarter of his popularity. Diddy losing to Ridley? Ain't staking my life on it, but it could happen. Diddy could be pathetic. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:30:54 PM | message detail |
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I'm a big fan of the original DKC, myself -- the other two were
nice, but they didn't stand out to me like DKC1 did for reasons
probably related to first impressions. DK's in every Mario game Diddy
is in then quite afew more. DK had MK64 to shun some of DKR's help for
Diddy. I simply don't think DK64 did much for either Kong, but if it
did I would imagine it to be fairly even. What are Diddy's roles in
some of DK's other games, like Donkey Konga or Mario VS Donkey Kong? That's just silly... there's no reason to think DKC is better than the 2nd or 3rd, other than pure nostalgia, granted that would be a factor among the voters too, but if anyone thinks they're objective in that, they're crazy. DKC lacks in every single area compared to the others. Yes, I know it's an opinion, but it's the same game with a whole lot less. Regardless, I'm not trying to argue Diddy > DK, just that Diddy shouldn't be galaxies behind DK like Ridley is with Samus. As for those other games you mentioned, no clue. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:31:48 PM | message detail |
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Diddy losing to Ridley? Ain't staking my life on it, but it could happen. Diddy could be pathetic. To be fair I would never say never about that one... but Ridley being his ceiling just blows my mind. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 5:33:14 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and DKC wins a lot based on just being the first and making such a
stir at the time. No way DKC3 touches it, and DKC2 probably outdoes it
as well. DKC2 is the bigger fan favorite, but DKC is more popular overall because more people played it. Not to mention, DK is still the titular character of EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Diddy can say that about Diddy Kong Racing/DKR DS. Stop there. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 5:33:47 PM | message detail |
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Balthier and Midna are pretty deserving, but I voted against them in
the Round Robin for the same reason many others did -- they have a
really good shot without us forcing ourselves to nominate them. I
thought this year was gonna be Akuma's year, but alas...and I wish
Yoshimitsu could have gotten to strut his stuff instead of
Nightmare...oh well. I also would have preferred Falco over Diddy, ha,
but that's made for enough controversy on my board before..... --- The Office > you. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 5:34:20 PM | message detail |
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*DKC probably outdoes DKC2, that should say --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:35:12 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying it wouldn't win in a games contest, I was just talking
about which one is actually better. DKC2 is like hot sex on the back of
a zebra... DKC3 ain't too shabby either. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/26/2007 5:35:17 PM | message detail |
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I just hope Nightmare gets his shot this time. Ivy getting in and sucking really hurt Soul Calibur's contest credibility. I'm still shocked at how well Mewtwo is doing in the Round Robin too. Diddy Kong to have a possible DKR DS boost? >_> <_< --- Mr. Inverse Absolute Power WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:37:02 PM | message detail |
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better characters to nominate? to be honest, I'd rather focus on
getting the people who need to return (sup Shadow, Magus, etc) than new
blood that's almost certain to be at the fodder line. I completely
support Mewtwo and Akuma of course, and I'm sure the FF12 guys will be
interesting. and of course, I'm always curious as to how Fei or Serge would do. but I don't expect them to be winning any board 8 rallies anytime soon and they're in the same position as Diddy. --- xyzzy |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:37:27 PM | message detail |
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Balthier I didn't vote for, for two reasons. He's pretty much
guaranteed a spot in, and I didn't play FFXII so I don't really care
about trying to boost his seed. Midna... meh. It'd be cool to see Midna
get in, just to see how well anything Zelda could do, but I don't think
you can say Midna is particularly more deserving than Diddy. As for
Falco, I'd say get him in, but I'd like to worry about Fox first. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/26/2007 5:38:34 PM | message detail |
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This topic needs more Gilgamesh. --- Rufus Shinra won the Guru Contest. I didn't. Rufus > Kleenex. Now playing: Final Fantasy V Advance, Rogue Galaxy |
| redrocket | Posted 2/26/2007 5:38:45 PM | message detail |
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I think Fei is more like in the same position as Manny Calvera or KOAC. --- The whole reason guys die quicker than girls is because we want to. -UltimaterializerX |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:39:44 PM | message detail |
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I agree completely about getting characters like Knux, Magus and Shadow
in... but seeing as we were talking about the 4 nomination rally spots,
I don't see how it's really relevant. If they were in the contest
against Diddy, I would have voted for them, but you said you were
surprised at the support Diddy was getting... he's only getting that
support because there's just no new blood that you can really say is
more deserving, no matter how pathetic he might end up being. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| luke | Posted 2/26/2007 5:39:47 PM | message detail |
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Gilgamesh is a sillier nomination than Diddy. well maybe not, I guess
he's a pointless optional boss fight in a bunch of remakes and FF12.
but yeah, not expecting too much there. agree on Midna and Balthier. I think both should make the field and won't need our help -- especially if there's no Link. (remember Tingle?) --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 5:40:09 PM | message detail |
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I think Fei is more like in the same position as Manny Calvera or KOAC. Please don't tell me you just compared the lead of Xenogears to the "lead" of Katamari Damacy and the lead of frigging Grim Fandango --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:40:17 PM | message detail |
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I take that back... I'd really like to see Marcus from Gears get in,
but this board supporting something from the 360 just isn't happening. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/26/2007 5:41:02 PM | message detail |
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Way to completely ignore his best game in ther series <_< And the second Gilgamesh gets in an FFVII remake, BAM! Noble Nine status. --- Rufus Shinra won the Guru Contest. I didn't. Rufus > Kleenex. Now playing: Final Fantasy V Advance, Rogue Galaxy |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/26/2007 5:41:21 PM | message detail |
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Xenogears would be another FF6 in terms of characters. --- Demyx is better than Axel. Just like Rufus Shinra is better than me for winning the Guru Contest. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/26/2007 5:41:36 PM | message detail |
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I liked GoW, but Marcus Fenix was blah... he'd be weaksauce I'd imagine. He'll probably get in on his own anyway. Hello Sam Fisher level! --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| redrocket | Posted 2/26/2007 5:41:56 PM | message detail |
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Please don't tell me you just compared the lead of Xenogears to the
"lead" of Katamari Damacy and the lead of frigging Grim Fandango In terms of contest strength? Hell yes. I would be pretty confidant taking KOAC over him, actually. --- The whole reason guys die quicker than girls is because we want to. -UltimaterializerX |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 5:42:41 PM | message detail |
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I don't particularly care for Marcus, but that doesn't stop him
from being one of the better newcomers to get into the contest. Plus
Gears is much bigger than silly Ghost Recon. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/26/2007 5:42:43 PM | message detail |
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No way in hell KoaC beats Fei. --- Rufus Shinra won the Guru Contest. I didn't. Rufus > Kleenex. Now playing: Final Fantasy V Advance, Rogue Galaxy |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/26/2007 5:42:57 PM | message detail |
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Hmmm... Fei = Kefka? That's be awesome. But, even Fei being at Terra's
level would be a pleasant surprise, but I doubt he'd even do that well.
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