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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 437

Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/22/2007 11:06:41 PM | message detail
What? Blasphemy!

Alright, alright. It's up to date now. It has all the archived topics up to 436. Part 437 can be found here for now:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33518407

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/22/2007 11:09:57 PM | message detail
I think TRE just upgraded himself? Is he...is he Vista?!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2007 6:12:06 AM | message detail
From Ngamer64 Posted 2/23/2007 12:25:49 AM #292
*high fives HaR and TRE*

Yeah just ignore the guy that did the actual convincing here (i.e., me). I see your game =p

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UItimaterializer | Posted 2/23/2007 6:13:45 AM | message detail
Actually I was on the wrong account when I posted that.

Message From UltiX at 2007-02-17 04:42:16
Given the old-school series of polls you're currently running, I suggest running an SNES poll. We've never had a "Got SNES?"-type poll, and it's long overdue.

Have you ever owned an SNES?

Yes, and I still play it
Yes, but I don't play it anymore
No, but I used to
No, but I wanted one
No, and I never wanted one
Feedback Status: Filed - Your message has been "filed" away for future perusal.


I believe everyone else's feedbacks were marked "read", yes? Either way it's about time we see the results of this. The SNES is still alive and kickin'!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/23/2007 9:46:09 AM | message detail
Wow, that many people still own a SNES?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/23/2007 10:01:40 AM | message detail
Round Robin Day 6:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33795570
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/23/2007 3:03:06 PM | message detail
What? So me, TRE, and HaR all suggest it and its ignored, then someone he knows mentions the same idea and CJay jumps right on the bandwagon?

Eh, well, I guess I still give him credit for doing the right thing in the end, regardless of if it took favoritism to finally push it through.

Regardless, release the bracket tonight Jeff, and all will be forgiven!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 2/23/2007 3:05:58 PM | message detail
This better be a damn good bracket when it comes out.

Not to burst your bubble, but I thought the exact same thing about the series contest and look how that turned out.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/23/2007 7:17:05 PM | message detail
From Ngamer64 Posted 2/23/2007 6:03:06 PM #307
What? So me, TRE, and HaR all suggest it and its ignored, then someone he knows mentions the same idea and CJay jumps right on the bandwagon?

My swag is phenomenal.

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 2/23/2007 9:40:06 PM | message detail
During Summer 2006, the record for longest period of time between the nominations closing and the bracket going up was set at 7 days 21 hours 56 minutes 54 sec. The nominations for the "Spring 2007" contest closed on 2/15/2007 11:43:11 PM PST. And as of now, there's a new record. ;_;
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/23/2007 9:56:07 PM | message detail
Updated: http://board8wiki.com/Got_Console

Color me surprised by that SNES result. Great vote total for the poll (95k), but I honestly thought the site's favorite console would have been owned by 81% of users, not 71%. I mean, I can understand having been owned by fewer gamers than the N64 and PSX, as that was the era when this site came into its own, and the PS2/GBA/GB had such huge sales that I understand the good showing. But how does the SNES manage to be 7% behind the considerably older NES, and 3% behind the considerably less-loved GameCube?

Anyways, hey, looks like CJay may have given the Got Console page I linked him to a look after all, because he's doing exactly what I would have asked to bring it up to date... our very first Genesis poll! Will be interesting to see how the final numbers shake out for that epic Console War of a couple generations back.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/24/2007 10:22:23 AM | message detail
Nomination Rally Round Robin Day 7:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33814462
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/24/2007 10:57:31 AM | message detail
At this point, Mewtwo, Seifer, Diddy, and Nightmare are all but locks to be the four winners of the Nomination Rally, so I guess we could start speculating on their relative strengths. How would you rank these four in order? Who is the strongest character you would take any of these four over?
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wavedash101 | Posted 2/24/2007 11:02:10 AM | message detail
I'd take Mewtwo...I think he's someone Pokemon fans would actually get behind and he has less haters than other pokemon...

Mewtwo
Seifer
Diddy
Nightmare

That is my totally uninformed, non-stathead opinion >_>
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 2/24/2007 11:03:24 AM | message detail
I'd say it's probably something like...

Gilgamesh
<huge gap>
Mewtwo
Seifer
Nightmare
Diddy Kong
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/24/2007 12:34:06 PM | message detail
Seifer
Mewtwo
Diddy/Nightmare
Nightmare/Diddy


I wouldn't take Seifer terribly high, myself -- I probably wouldn't take him over Tidus. I can see them all beating The Boss though, so there's room for some range.
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Big Bob | Posted 2/24/2007 12:45:39 PM | message detail
Seifer
Mewtwo
Nightmare
Diddy
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/24/2007 1:56:11 PM | message detail
Mewtwo
Seifer/Diddy
Diddy/Seifer
Nightmare

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/24/2007 2:42:55 PM | message detail
All I got to say is, Midna better not make it in any capacity.
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swirIdude | Posted 2/24/2007 2:44:08 PM | message detail
Seifer
Mewtwo
Diddy Kong
Nightmare

And since the Rally is a lock, you should start NCAA back up.
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Janus5000 | Posted 2/24/2007 2:45:32 PM | message detail
Seifer > Mewtwo > Nightmare > Diddy.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/24/2007 10:31:42 PM | message detail
Mewtwo > everything

Seifer > everything in an actual contest though, probably.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/24/2007 11:27:07 PM | message detail
Update!

http://board8wiki.com/Got_Console

Sega Gen scores a 54% and enters in the middle of the pack, just behind the DS and DreamCast (remember that it scored that 56 at the peak of its popularity though), and with room to spare before you hit the lower Xbox/Atari tier.

Speaking of which, a chance to update that Atari number. CJay's like the gift that keeps on giving... except it's never the gift you really want!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/25/2007 11:56:09 AM | message detail
Round Robin Day 8:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33836143
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wavedash101 | Posted 2/25/2007 11:59:15 AM | message detail
lol Ulti
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therealmnm | Posted 2/25/2007 12:01:37 PM | message detail
Mewtwo
Diddy
Seifer


Nightmare

I think the first three are right there in strength. I also think Diddy might be able to beat Mewtwo head-to-head. Diddy was more popular than DK during the DKC era, and it's not like people don't know who he is... at least among Nintendo fans. The Nintendo fanbase MIGHT side with him over Mewtwo... at least enough for Diddy to take the win.
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therealmnm | Posted 2/25/2007 12:59:38 PM | message detail
Heh, seeing all this Sonic and the Secret Rings hoopla, I'm looking forward to the next character battle. It's amazing that Sonic still constantly has the spotlight on him whether or not his games are crap or actually decent. I was just looking at him hog the front page and imagined him having a contest match at the same time. <_<;
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 2/25/2007 1:38:03 PM | message detail
Anyone in the rally > N00btwo

In an actual contest however, Mewtwo might be one of the Pokémons that has a chance to win over an decent opponent.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/25/2007 1:41:19 PM | message detail
I still can't believe Diddy was one of the winners, much less that people are trying to argue him over Mewtwo.

I'd argue he could be stronger indirectly before I ever dreamt of him winning in a head-to-head match. I mean... it's a weaker version of Donkey Kong. No way he doesn't choke a match against Mewtwo away.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/25/2007 1:42:31 PM | message detail
Diddy is just DK with a bigger penis. We all know large penis = large votals.

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Janus5000 | Posted 2/25/2007 1:54:43 PM | message detail
We all know large penis = large votals.

Other way around, really.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2079
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/25/2007 1:56:10 PM | message detail
Diddy is so screwed.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/25/2007 1:56:26 PM | message detail
It doesn't work if you're up against a woman.

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Janus5000 | Posted 2/25/2007 1:57:11 PM | message detail
1) Clinkeroth
8) Diddy Kong
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/25/2007 2:27:27 PM | message detail
Ya know, I would find it funny if Diddy was weaker than DK yet had a Frog-like run. I dunno, say he barely beat Marth in some 3/6-match, then went on to squeak by Lara Croft...then impressed against Kirby (not necessarily like Frog/Solid, but still impressed). If Diddy could do that while DK has choked the way he's choked so many times...it would totally be worth it, ha.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/25/2007 7:08:31 PM | message detail
At this point I'm kinda hoping this contest just gets scraped, and Ceej announces a game contest. We're getting too close to summer for their to be a contest between this one and the character contest... unless of course we get it really late again.

Anyway, what do you guys think the chances of getting the contest without a prediction period is?

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/25/2007 7:37:42 PM | message detail
We either get a contest tomorrow/tonight, Thursday, or a Top Ten/Hundred List...and lord knows I needs me a new list to examine, mirite?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/25/2007 10:01:17 PM | message detail
http://board8wiki.com/Got_Console

Oh, another good showing for the Old School! The Atari 2600 expands on the 36% share it earned back in early 2004, improving to 40% on this 2007 update. That's enough to, temporarily at least, push it out in front of the 360 on the all-time ranks.

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Haste_2 | Posted 2/25/2007 11:47:21 PM | message detail
Diddy Kong being about on par with Peach feels about right to me. Maybe slightly higher than that since Peach beating Diddy doesn't seem quite right. I think Mewtwo could be a bit stronger than that, though, somewhere between Peach and Donkey Kong. I think Seifer would be around the level of Rikku. As for Nightmare... I think he would make a pretty good match with Kefka or Chun Li.

That makes my rankings...

Seifer
Mewtwo
Diddy = Nightmare (slight edge to Diddy)

But, all four of them being worth 23+% on Base Link? That seems a little too hopeful. I'm sure somebody will totally blow my expectations among those. I hope one of them does better than everyone expected, though... Sub-Zero did just that among last year's rally winners, pulling 40% on a KH2-boosted Auron.

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Big Bob | Posted 2/25/2007 11:52:09 PM | message detail
I find the chances of Diddy doing anything to be pathetic, actually. He's guaranteed to be weaker than Donkey Kong, and DK's hardly strong. He would have his ass kicked by Mewtwo and Seifer. He MAY be able to beat Nightmare, but due to SCII's strong sales I'm starting to doubt it.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 6:41:42 AM | message detail
I could see Diddy beating either Mewtwo or Seifer... not that I'd actually predict it to happen though. Mewtwo and Seifer definitely have the greatest upper limits to go crazy. With how Snake looked this year, any potential funkiness in Snake/Squall only puts Squall higher up, and I doubt Seifer can be that much weaker than him (granted it's going to be a very significant gap). As for Mewtwo, I think his upper limit is a bit less than Seifer's, but I do think he has a very good chance at being stronger than him regardless. Nightmare is pretty much guaranteed at the bottom of the list for me, and Diddy should be weaker than DK, but I don't think the gap will be as large as most suspect.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/26/2007 9:19:09 AM | message detail
Yeah, it seems logical for Diddy to be weaker than Donkey Kong, and that's what I would bank on if I had to. DK just has all of the intangibles in his corner to beat Diddy, except for PERHAPS likeability. You really can't guarantee that Diddy is more likeable than DK, even though it might seem common sense to some of us.

I know HaRRicH has his doubts about Seifer due to Squall's strength pre-KH (though it still seems difficult to tell if Snake did ANYTHING to him in 2002 or not), but he does have KHII in his corner now, even if it is a little bit role. However, you can't go through KHII and NOT notice Seifer, really. Don't know if that'll help him any or not though.

I don't know what to think about Mewtwo either. He could be a decent midcarder, but he could also be a bust. However, I think he has more reason to do well than to flop, but it's definitely not out of the question.

I've never been sold on Nightmare, but people insist on making sure he gets to be one of the four because he didn't make it last year. I don't have any problem with that line of thinking, although I'd really rather see Akuma...
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 11:31:55 AM | message detail
If you swap Nightmare with Akuma, the nomination rally becomes a lot more badass.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 11:50:33 AM | message detail
Diddy can only really compete with DK within the DKC series, which is probably DK's biggest source of strength outside of his icon status...but even within those games, I'd take DK > Diddy. From there, DK had several games and arcade releases before then, appeared in Mario Kart 64, been in SSB/M, and still appears in other games occasionally without Diddy. DK64 probably didn't mean much for either of them, honestly, and DK/Diddy share the status of "hey, more characters" in most other games they share (especially Mario Sports). Diddy Kong Racing isn't enough to compete with MK64/SSB-M, though DKR is a testament of how liked Diddy was in the DKC series. DK's icon status is stronger than Diddy's too though, easily at that, and so I just can't see any way for Diddy to match DK. I think Diddy would resist SFF better than many characters, but I don't think Diddy would be THAT close to DK...I would imagine having a Mega/Zero relationship would be a bit kind to Diddy, though that's the best example I have on my mind.


I'm curious to hear if Seifer was actually enjoyable in KH2 or not -- I know it's a small role that must be seen, but I don't think I've heard one way or another if it was actually a decent role or not. Regardless, yeah, I'm skeptical on how strong Squall/Seifer were before their KH appearances and I would think it's plenty logical to think that Squall > Seifer before the KH series came about and Squall's appearance in KH received much more praise than Seifer's in KH2. Now, where Squall was in 2k2, eh, I figure pretty close to where he landed -- I may give him some benefit of the doubt though...but Seifer? He'd be doing real good to match Tidus today, I figure. FF8 has that love/hate feeling still (although nothing like it once was) and Seifer was no Squall in FF8 or the KH series.


I trust Mewtwo will not flop like Pikachu did. I just don't foresee Mewtwo being a beast either -- Pokemon strikes me alot like FF3/6. We have seen its strength in games and series in various ways, and we have seen several characters -- including their most well-known -- in action during previous contests. Both games have so many characters and several of them could have some real strength, but after seeing the ones we've seen already I wonder how much higher we can really get from the game/series. I trust Mewtwo would make a bigger jump ahead of Pikachu than Shadow/Locke would over Kefka...but Pikachu is a good deal below Kefka, too, and I don't see Mewtwo blowing away Kefka too easily. If nothing else, between the stigma Pokemon's left behind every match barring last year's matches and that Pokemon/Nidoran faced Metroid/Samus -- which are not exactly notorious for holding their own in SFF matches -- and, well, I don't want to take Mewtwo too high. I'm certain he's the strongest from the Pokemon series, but how much stronger? I'll give him credit, but I'm not going to over-estimate him.


I wish Yoshimitsu would have made it instead of Nightmare -- he's the fan-favorite of Tekken and gets some of Soul Calibur's fanbase too...but alas, it's not happening. Nightmare would certainly do better than Ivy, but I wouldn't want to take him too much higher than the likes of Jin/Terry Bogard. I wouldn't take him against any SF character we've seen yet, either, nor would I take him over Akuma. Akuma/Yoshimitsu really needed in instead of Nightmare.....
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/26/2007 12:01:22 PM | message detail
Final day of the Nomination Rally Tournament:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33855126
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redrocket | Posted 2/26/2007 12:21:49 PM | message detail
I trust Mewtwo would make a bigger jump ahead of Pikachu than Shadow/Locke would over Kefka.

Taking either Shadow or Locke to be above Kefka is a BOLD prediction.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/26/2007 12:25:37 PM | message detail
I don't underestimate Nightmare's support at all. I would expect Akuma to get over 60% on him.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 12:28:40 PM | message detail
Never said I would take Shadow or Locke over Kefka, note that, but there's always going to be discussion of who the strongest character from FF3/6 is until we see Shadow, Locke, Edgar, Sabin, and Mog, you know what I mean? I would certainly take Mewtwo over Pikachu as opposed to probably reluctantly taking Kefka over Locke, personally.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/26/2007 12:29:42 PM | message detail
I also disagree with Nightmare's support, but if it shows that people are willing to support characters who won and were snubbed last year, then Raiden better blast Fox's ass away.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 2/26/2007 1:39:27 PM | message detail
I really want to see Fox and Raiden in this year... I just want to see Raiden in more. Both for the fact that I think his strength is more unpredictable than Fox's, and I want to see him with an accurate value pre-MGS4 and post-MGS4.

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