GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 437
| Super Destroy | Posted 2/12/2007 2:26:11 AM | message detail |
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Howdy Stats Topicers! I come asking for your assitance in filling in
the Board 8 Wiki. As you know there's stuff about the contests there,
but it's fairly bare bones. I'd like if maybe those of you more
knowledged in the contest may write some articles and flesh some more
out. In particular the articles for the characters/games/series that
have appeared in the contests are quite empty, although any additions
made are welcome. If you do decide to help, then you have my, and the
rest of the Wiki staff's, deepest thanks. www.board8wiki.com --- (>ò_ó)>---{[=(>x_x)> |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/12/2007 3:50:59 AM | message detail |
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Since I'm bored, I'm gonna list a bunch of situations where a character
received a very similar percentage against at least two opponents in
the same contest... not much more than 1% at most. I might've missed
some, so beware. SC2K2: Mario vs. Crono+Cloud Link vs. Strider+Scorpion SC2K3: Sonic vs. Zero + Aeris Cloud Strife vs. Link + Sephiroth (heh... the only time Link and Sephiroth were really close) Sephiroth vs. Mario + Mega Man Sephiroth vs. Raziel + Max Payne Squall Leonhart vs. Luigi + Jill Valentine Sp2K4: Starcraft vs. Halo + Zelda:WW + SSBM Final Fantasy VI vs. Mortal Kombat + Doom SC2K4: Link vs. CATS + Ganondorf Cloud Strife vs. Duke Nukem + Vyse Mega Man vs. Zero + Solid Snake Frog vs. Liquid Snake + Master Chief + Solid Snake Sp2K5: Revolver Ocelot vs. Nemesis + Dr. Wily Diablo vs. M. Bison + Kefka SC2K5: Yoshi vs. Laharl + Pac-Man Sp2K6: N/A SC2K6: Solid Snake vs. Mega Man + Sonic the Hedgehog Solid Snake vs. Squall Leonhart + Yoshi (hi auto-mod) Zelda vs. Aeris + Yuna Luigi vs. Zero + Kirby --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/12/2007 4:39:03 PM | message detail |
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Day 24 of the Nomination Rally Tournament: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33591638 --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/13/2007 5:02:47 PM | message detail |
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Day 25 of the Nomination Rally Tournament: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33611120 --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/13/2007 9:30:13 PM | message detail |
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Nice nice. ~*ST*~ --- 2/4/2007 - SUPER BOWL CHAMPION COLTS!! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, Final Fantasy, FF6A |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 2/13/2007 10:45:02 PM | message detail |
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What the crap CJay? These are the kind of polls you're supposed to run
to get anticipation and debate started up just prior to kicking off a Game Contest. It's like he's trying to make us more upset about the Quote Contest on purpose. I don't know, there's times when it really feels like he's got his finger on the pulse of GameFAQs, but then alot of the time he just appears entirely clueless. --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/13/2007 10:47:40 PM | message detail |
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Holy crap GameFAQs... How can "I never finished it" be winning? o_O --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| ZFS | Posted 2/13/2007 10:49:13 PM | message detail |
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WHERE DO I GO NOW?! --- "Embrace your destruction... It is the fate of all things." -- Kefka |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/13/2007 10:50:02 PM | message detail |
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www.gamefaqs.com --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Viktor | Posted 2/14/2007 5:25:10 AM | message detail |
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Guru contest? --- Trivia Team Two Comps and a Tnote RIP - Tnote827 (4/4/05) |
| Heroic Viktor | Posted 2/14/2007 5:26:52 AM | message detail |
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Nevermind... just noticed it is in a topic of its own. Yay for brutual snow causing the office to open late! --- Trivia Team Two Comps and a Tnote RIP - Tnote827 (4/4/05) |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/14/2007 5:39:25 AM | message detail |
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That option is winning because many people only casually played LoZ (I
dunno, maybe played it at a friend's house way after LoZ's prime), and
didn't get very far. Also, because Dungeon 6 is impossible...;_; --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 6:58:32 AM | message detail |
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I didn't beat LoZ until I put a dedicated effort to beat it on the LoZ
GC collection. I'm assuming that I'm not alone in LoZ being one of
Nintendo games that I had played, but never had long enough to beat. One thing about my childhood is that I have played plenty of NES games. And for a majority of them, I have no idea how
I played them... I just know that I did. There was so much borrowing
and swapping of games growing up in my 'hood that I don't even know
which games I actually bought. I was a master at MM2 and MM3, but I owned neither game. Played the hell out of Blaster Master, but I don't think I ever owned it. LoZ? Zelda 2? Didn't buy either game... but for some reason I had them in my possession for long periods of time. I don't even remember my own collection since I let my older brother take half of my NES games to college with him (I had a SNES by that time). I digress, but I was just commenting on myself having not finished the original LoZ after, what, almost 18 years? --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/14/2007 7:00:22 AM | message detail |
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Thing is, if nearly 40% of GameFAQs never even beat Zelda 1... ...well, the fact that it could get so much on frigging Super Mario Brothers 3 is saddnening then. =( --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/14/2007 7:54:15 AM | message detail |
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I'VE BEAT LOZ HAWHAW This poll surprises me though. I mean, it did really well against SMB3 and held its own rather nicely in the Top 100 List as well, not to mention LoZ is the biggest series here and it's currently on tilt thanks to some LoZ:TP influence...ha, imagine if about half of the people who never beat it DID beat it. I wonder how much stronger (if any) the game would have been. --- The Office > you. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/14/2007 7:57:10 AM | message detail |
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I'm somewhat-curious how this poll would have gone two years ago now, before the next-generation of systems came out..... --- The Office > you. |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 8:00:13 AM | message detail |
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I think it's just showing that the game got a lot
of benefit from franchise voting. People may have PLAYED it, but they
were just acknowledging that it was the root of the series that they
loved so much. I don't think it would get much more stronger if more
people that didn't play through it went ahead and beat it. Yeah, the
vote of a lot of those people who franchise voted for it might actually
turn genuine... but I don't think it would add a lot of new voters for it, especially seeing how strong the game was... --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| charmander6000 | Posted 2/14/2007 8:03:00 AM | message detail |
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LoZ may have done well against SMB3 because it was part of the Legend of Zelda series. If I had to choose between 2 games that I have never played and one of them is let's say a Mario game then I would probably vote for the Mario game. Same could be said for games that you have played, but don't really care for. --- Proud member of Board 8. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/14/2007 10:02:01 AM | message detail |
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I'd like to bring this up again: who's more popular, Akuma or M. Bison? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 10:18:20 AM | message detail |
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I'd like to bring this up again: who's more popular, Akuma or M. Bison? IRL: Akuma. On GameFAQs: Bison. Nobody on GF plays fighting games anymore, so I strongly doubt that a character as new as Akuma would do much. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/14/2007 10:19:50 AM | message detail |
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...did I just hear Akuma described as a "new" character? --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/14/2007 10:20:53 AM | message detail |
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I'd take M. Bison, but it's got plenty of room to be close or even the
upset. Just depends on how much not being in SF2 hurts Akuma, because
he can probably hold his own for the rest of the series and MvsC
games..... --- The Office > you. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:21:21 AM | message detail |
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...12-13 years old is new? --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:22:58 AM | message detail |
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Just depends on how much not being in SF2 hurts Akuma, because he
can probably hold his own for the rest of the series and MvsC games..... Not as much as some might think. Where do you think Strider got strength from? Keep in mind that Street Fighter Alpha was a popular series. SFA3 actually broke the 1 million mark in sales, a rarity for a SF console release. Akuma gets in all of these games for a reason. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 10:25:02 AM | message detail |
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To the casual non-fighting game fan, M. Bison will always be seen as the
Street Fighter villain, even though the instant Akuma appeared, he
overtook M. Bison in popularity among Street Fighter fans. I don't
think the Alpha games and the other versions of Street Fighter 2 were
as big as the original Street Fighter 2. So there is always this stigma
that Akuma is a "newer" character since he isn't a part of the original
12. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:28:29 AM | message detail |
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No doubt that the rest of the series wasn't as big as the original. Few
games out there are as huge as the original SFII was, but Bison's not
exactly a powerhouse either. Heck, we've seen Shadow reach up to the
level of Knuckles and maybe beyond despite being part of the less
popular 3-D series alone. It's definitely not beyond Akuma to be above
Bison. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/14/2007 10:29:25 AM | message detail |
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I tend to think of M. Bison being the Dr. Wily of the SF series while
Akuma is the Sigma...not a very flattering comparison, mind you, but
Sigma isn't exactly popular within his own series. Akuma is probably
closer to a Zero for SF than a Sigma, so that may tilt the edge in his
favor... --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 10:30:30 AM | message detail |
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Keep in mind that Street Fighter Alpha was a popular series. SFA3
actually broke the 1 million mark in sales, a rarity for a SF console
release. By the time SFA3 was released on the Playstation, selling a million games on that console really wasn't that big of a feat. It certainly wasn't on the popularity level of Street Fighter II on the SNES. Now if the other SNES Street Fighter games have comparable numbers to SF2, then you have a point... --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 10:32:45 AM | message detail |
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I tend to think of M. Bison being the Dr. Wily of the SF series
while Akuma is the Sigma...not a very flattering comparison, mind you,
but Sigma isn't exactly popular within his own series. Who likes Sigma... At least Dr. Wily has the eyebrows. <_<; But yeah, Akuma has fans. He definitely has that edge over M. Bison. But Bison has edges over Akuma as well... That's the whole point of this debate. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:33:16 AM | message detail |
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I tend to think of Akuma more along the lines of Shadow the Hedgehog,
really. I don't think comparing him to Sigma is a fair comparison... --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 10:35:12 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Akuma's popularity stems off being a badass version of Ryu and
Ken (a la Shadow). Bison's popularity stems off of him being "the
Street Fighter boss". Akuma may be a villain, but that's not why he's
popular. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 2/14/2007 10:37:31 AM | message detail |
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I see Akuma as more of a Zero in that I think if Sonic and Shadow had a direct matchup, Shadow'd get fodderized.
Whereas I think Akuma could actually take a surprising chunk out of Ryu
(perhaps one that makes him seem stronger than he actually is...),
which is definitely Zero's M.O. -- he makes the main character of his series look like a pansy --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:43:22 AM | message detail |
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Akuma makes Ryu look like a pansy?! HA! *thinks of SFA2 Ryu's ending* *is reminded of the awesome music that plays during the ending* --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 10:47:24 AM | message detail |
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...did I just hear Akuma described as a "new" character? Compared to the other Street Fighters, yes. Not as much as some might think. Where do you think Strider got strength from? Keep in mind that Street Fighter Alpha was a popular series. SFA3 actually broke the 1 million mark in sales, a rarity for a SF console release. Akuma gets in all of these games for a reason. And Street Fighter 2 sold ~18 million copies. Not being in that is pretty crippling. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 10:49:14 AM | message detail |
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Honestly, other games in the SF series don't need sales that astounding
for Akuma to be stronger than Bison. Again, he's not THAT strong. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 10:50:24 AM | message detail |
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Mac, you DO know what game Akuma first appeared in right? --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 10:58:41 AM | message detail |
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Mac, you DO know what game Akuma first appeared in right? SF2 Turbo, right? Honestly, other games in the SF series don't need sales that astounding for Akuma to be stronger than Bison. Again, he's not THAT strong. Bison's pretty weak, yes, and that's despite SF2's massive popularity. I don't see how someone from SFA could possibly be stronger. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 11:00:13 AM | message detail |
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Again, I point to Shadow. He has no business being as strong as or
stronger than Knuckles considering how much more favored and better
selling the 2-D series has been. This is more than just sales. Akuma
has a naturally appealing image. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| voltch | Posted 2/14/2007 11:01:25 AM | message detail |
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Akuma wasn't popular enough to get into the villain contest apparently. but do nominations represent a degree of popularity? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 11:07:09 AM | message detail |
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Ask Sub-Zero about that one, yo. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 11:07:21 AM | message detail |
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Again, I point to Shadow. He has no business being as strong as or
stronger than Knuckles considering how much more favored and better
selling the 2-D series has been. This is more than just sales. Akuma
has a naturally appealing image. http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=sonic&console=&publisher=&sort=Total The 3D Sonic games are all far more popular than S&K. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Knuckles gets most of his popularity from the 3D games. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 11:07:58 AM | message detail |
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Ask Sub-Zero about that one, yo. Why? He's not a villain any more than Magus is. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 11:09:46 AM | message detail |
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Why? He's not a villain any more than Magus is. Talking about nominations representing a degree of popularity. And knowing Knuckles's role in the 3-D games, if that's where the bulk of his popularity came from, I'd be shocked. Don't take so much stock into sales. 2-D Sonics would kill 3-D Sonics in a popularity poll. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 2/14/2007 11:12:07 AM | message detail |
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Don't take so much stock into sales. 2-D Sonics would kill 3-D Sonics in a popularity poll. Shadow's strength argues to the contrary. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 2/14/2007 11:15:16 AM | message detail |
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Sonic Adventure 2 is the only one that'd have any notable strength. If
you think Sonic Heroes is going to beat a 2-D Sonic game, you're crazy. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 11:16:04 AM | message detail |
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Shadow's strength argues to the contrary. Shadow's strength comes from him being pushed as a badass dark Sonic the Hedgehog. It's not about the sales and popularity of the individual games. Popularity doesn't entirely come from sales. And when you're talking about a series as staple as Sonic the Hedgehog, when you're using sales to defend a character's popularity more than the actual character, you're already on the wrong foot. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/14/2007 11:16:14 AM | message detail |
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M. Bison's a low/mid-carder. He'd beat Kefka and could hang with Chun
Li. You basically have to say that Akuma's the second strongest SF
character in order to beat M.Bison by more than a slim amount. I think
there's more room for Akuma to lose to M. Bison than to win against
him, but that's just me... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| therealmnm | Posted 2/14/2007 11:19:55 AM | message detail |
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Oh, in a direct matchup Akuma definitely can beat Akuma. I can't see fans of both siding with Bison. I thought the debate was on overall strength. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Fable, Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| HaRRicH | Posted 2/14/2007 11:20:29 AM | message detail |
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I think we can agree on Akuma > Akuma. --- The Office > you. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 2/14/2007 11:21:00 AM | message detail |
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Akuma beats Akuma? Wha? Sorry, I meant an indirect matchup. =P --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
