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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 437

swirIdude | Posted 2/9/2007 6:25:35 PM | message detail
While we're discussing games, let's talk about how Pokemon Diamond/Pearl would do!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/9/2007 6:26:30 PM | message detail
It'd lose to Xenogears.

...we've gotta see R/B/Y in one of these things eventually.
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swirIdude | Posted 2/9/2007 6:26:55 PM | message detail
Yes we do. Complete with Hyper Beam screenshot.
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2007 6:27:24 PM | message detail
Pokemon is the bane of my existence.

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luke | Posted 2/9/2007 6:28:15 PM | message detail
oh what a glorious day that was
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swirIdude | Posted 2/9/2007 6:29:22 PM | message detail
Pokemon is the bane of my existence.

Cheer up. Star Ocean won in Soviet Russia.
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2007 6:31:10 PM | message detail
But lost where it counts -- PokeFAQs.


GAWD NOW PEOPLE WANT TO RALLY BEHIND MEWTWO JUST CUT MY WRISTS NOW!

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swirIdude | Posted 2/9/2007 6:32:27 PM | message detail
Yeah right PokeFAQs, it can't even beat Metroid.

And Mewtwo would definetly beat Fayt.
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luke | Posted 2/9/2007 6:32:41 PM | message detail
to be fair, look at his competition.

also, at least Mewtwo will be interesting. half the characters in those things are guaranteed fodder.
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2007 6:36:31 PM | message detail
I can only pray that Mewtwo is put up against someone he cannot win. Another year of Pokelove is something I cannot stand! It'll make me keel over on this land! Too much to see, oh poor me!



...So about this Quote Contest that we're supposed to have. Man, last contest set a horrible precedent. :(


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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/9/2007 6:36:37 PM | message detail
GAWD NOW PEOPLE WANT TO RALLY BEHIND MEWTWO JUST CUT MY WRISTS NOW!

The sad thing is that Mewtwo, Nightmare, and Akuma are the only worthwhile people left in the main rally bracket >_>

Come on, if Zelos beats Nightmare, I'm gonna **** myself.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/9/2007 6:37:46 PM | message detail
Man, last contest set a horrible precedent. :(

How so? It was pretty good, other than uhh...the first two rounds of the Female Bracket >_>
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2007 6:39:06 PM | message detail
The sad thing is that Mewtwo, Nightmare, and Akuma are the only worthwhile people left in the main rally bracket >_>


Uh, yeah, Balthier would smash all of them. Nightmare is going to be worth zilch, Akuma will be good, GAWD MEWTWO GET AWAY FROM ME I HATE YOU.


But it's pretty common knowledge that we're running out of strong new blood.

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swirIdude | Posted 2/9/2007 6:40:04 PM | message detail
This wouldn't be a problem if Jigglypuff hadn't beaten Fawful

BAH GAWD POKEFAQS! I HAVE FURY!
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ZFS | Posted 2/9/2007 6:41:05 PM | message detail
How so?

The series contest, rather. It's no fun around here during the "wait" portion of a new contest. They seem to get longer and longer as we get them...

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luke | Posted 2/9/2007 6:41:08 PM | message detail
Balthier's not noteworthy because he's a lock to get into the next bracket without rallying. you don't need to rally for new Final Fantasy characters, especially the most popular one.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/9/2007 7:50:22 PM | message detail
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm

What do you think?

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 2/9/2007 8:05:38 PM | message detail
attn: stats topic

you're supposed to be quiet and boring stop discussing
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Same Orphanage | Posted 2/9/2007 8:07:21 PM | message detail
*gyrates*
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/9/2007 11:37:30 PM | message detail
Looks very good, Ulti. But couldn't we get a 2002-era Link pic for the background? Then we could save the TP pic for the years where hype from that trailer alone boosted him even further past Cloud.

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Big Bob | Posted 2/9/2007 11:40:38 PM | message detail
With all the Poke-hate going on in this topic, I hope the famous Red/Blue quote makes a good run.

"I like shorts. They're comfy and easy to wear!"
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/10/2007 7:34:26 AM | message detail
I don't quite get the relevence of Ulti posting the 02 Stats, but if your asking us how it looks, I've always been pretty impressed by that site as a whole, yo.
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Haste_2 | Posted 2/10/2007 7:48:44 AM | message detail
I think SMB3's capable of taking on CT these days; the biggest recipient of "The Boost" has been the Mario gang ((outside of SSBM)... and the SMB series came close to beating Final Fantasy.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 2/10/2007 7:49:37 AM | message detail
SMB3 over CT is totally possible these days.
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transience | Posted 2/10/2007 7:53:17 AM | message detail
if CT lost to SMB3, I'd pin it on a CT decline more than a Mario 3 boost. I'm just not sold on Mario 3.
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Chicago17 | Posted 2/10/2007 8:12:17 AM | message detail
Here's the real question, because CT has dropped bigtime the last two years ;____;...

If Chrono Trigger were released on the VC, would you take Crono to beat Snake? Would you take Chrono Trigger to beat LttP?
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swirIdude | Posted 2/10/2007 8:31:03 AM | message detail
I'd still take Snake, and would flip a coin for CT/LttP

Ulti, Pac-Man vs Scorpion is a Round 3 match.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 8:59:32 AM | message detail
*comes in after the fact*

Final Fantasy X beats Wind Waker! Book it!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/10/2007 9:21:42 AM | message detail
People seem to be overestimating what the VC will do for games...I don't think it'll make many games much stronger at all, and even the effect on extreme cases like CT shoudn't do overly much...
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Big Bob | Posted 2/10/2007 9:35:32 AM | message detail
Why's this topic moving so quickly? The bracket's not even out yet!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/10/2007 9:36:59 AM | message detail
We're making a last-ditch effort to convince Ceej to do a Games Contest instead

USE MY BRACKET CEEJ
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transience | Posted 2/10/2007 9:37:50 AM | message detail
I'll go one further - FFX beats Wind Waker in 2004!

CT will be helped more than others because the game is so hard to find. I can't think of a game that would get more support on the VC than CT.

that said, it's not going to do anything wild. it'll be like FF6A, just keeping it from slowly slipping.
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therealmnm | Posted 2/10/2007 9:52:16 AM | message detail
Now, part of this is because the rallying fell apart against the juggernaut that is SMB (which is exactly why SC doesn't stand a chance against Melee anymore), but it's simply not that strong without rallying. You think SC can take down something like MGS2 if we put it on the front page tomorrow, no warning? Be my guest.

Oh gawd, the awesomeness of somebody else agreeing with me
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transience | Posted 2/10/2007 9:55:54 AM | message detail
that's how I feel too. GTA is not as weak as WC made it, it just didn't have the same power against SMB because they knew it was so screwed. it's just like how SC's strength changed with every match depending on how much it needed to win. it was far from constant.

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/10/2007 10:19:25 AM | message detail
I still can't access the site.

Something about ActiveX Control.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 11:35:46 AM | message detail
I'll go one further - FFX beats Wind Waker in 2004!

I've been saying that since, well, 2004!
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swirIdude | Posted 2/10/2007 12:07:34 PM | message detail
I said that too!
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therealmnm | Posted 2/10/2007 1:33:09 PM | message detail
Saying FFX beats Wind Waker in 2k4 isn't saying very much. We're talking about one of the LESS popular Zelda games that has plenty of known detractors due to "Celda" and the sailing. Hell, I'm one of the biggest WW fans in this topic and even I didn't have much expectations for it. I had it losing to Metroid Prime. I'll be the first to tell you that WW isn't the pinnacle of popularity.

And coming from another point of view, it has been shown that Starcraft didn't need as many votes to take down WW as it did to take down Halo and keep competitive with SSBM. I kinda agree with that point of view.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/10/2007 1:46:35 PM | message detail
it has been shown that Starcraft didn't need as many votes to take down WW as it did to take down Halo

Poll position.

The typical argument made for Starcraft not cheating (significantly) against WW is that it didn't get many more votes than it did against Kingdom Hearts...which, if you follow the stats close enough pretty obviously doesn't take a lot of sense...
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therealmnm | Posted 2/10/2007 2:19:40 PM | message detail
Okay. Point taken. I was just trying to state it from another view. I STILL didn't (and don't) have any faith in WW being one of the top games on this site. Saying FFX would beat it isn't saying much.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 2:44:29 PM | message detail
I don't think it's saying much either, but some people still seem to think Wind Waker would win that match!
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ZFS | Posted 2/10/2007 4:57:54 PM | message detail
If you want to be really bold, you go FFX > SSBM!


(Note: HM is no longer on that wagon! :P)

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 4:58:59 PM | message detail
As much as I'd like to stay on that bandwagon, I can no longer see fit to do so.
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ZFS | Posted 2/10/2007 5:07:58 PM | message detail
Indeed. 'Tis quite unfortunate...

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 5:09:35 PM | message detail
But...

I am Leonhart. Even in disgrace.

The bandwagon lives! Okay, maybe not. I just wanted an excuse to use that line.
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ZFS | Posted 2/10/2007 5:12:19 PM | message detail
Gabranth is awesome enough to get his lines used like that !!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 2/10/2007 5:15:28 PM | message detail
Day 23 of the Nomination Rally Tournament:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33553605
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Haste_2 | Posted 2/10/2007 7:38:56 PM | message detail
Starcraft's voting patterns were actually the LEAST stable out of all its matches in Starcraft vs. Zelda: WW, so I can't deny the good possibility that Zelda: WW was the strongest in Division 128 back at that time.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/10/2007 10:46:01 PM | message detail
From Ngamer64 Posted 2/10/2007 2:37:30 AM #120
Looks very good, Ulti. But couldn't we get a 2002-era Link pic for the background? Then we could save the TP pic for the years where hype from that trailer alone boosted him even further past Cloud.

Yeah I thought of that too.

And Hiko, it's not relevant. I'm just asking how it looks and whether or not it'll be worth my time to put all such stats on the site for future first post linkage.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 2/11/2007 9:16:24 PM | message detail
Alright I gave Link a generic SSBM pic on that first page. I think it fits the older style quite well.

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