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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 435

Haste_2 | Posted 1/11/2007 11:48:43 PM | message detail
Or maybe Oblivion's showing in the 360 poll WAS the PC fanbase and the core Xbox fanbase doesn't care about the game as much as we would like to believe!

So, uh, how does that make sense with today's poll in mind? FFXII is rSFFing GoW to death?


I say it's that the PC gamers didn't bother much to vote in the best X-Box game poll, which is what caused GoW to destroy it.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 11:55:44 PM | message detail
That's exactly what I said. >_<
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therealmnm | Posted 1/11/2007 11:55:47 PM | message detail
So, uh, how does that make sense with today's poll in mind? FFXII is rSFFing GoW to death?

You act like the Xbox fanbase is large on this site. A lot of people who aren't even Xbox fans or who don't have a 360 yet (raises hands) still can acknowledge that Gears of War is the best Xbox 360 game. With this poll, only the COREST of the core Xbox fanbase would likely be voting Gears of War. It has nothing to do with rSFF. The Xbox poll most likely had more than just Xbox gamers voting in it...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 11:59:15 PM | message detail
You act like the Xbox fanbase is large on this site. A lot of people who aren't even Xbox fans or who don't have a 360 yet (raises hands) still can acknowledge that Gears of War is the best Xbox 360 game. With this poll, only the COREST of the core Xbox fanbase would likely be voting Gears of War. It has nothing to do with rSFF. The Xbox poll most likely had more than just Xbox gamers voting in it...

Heh, that rSFF comment was just a joke. I don't get why you seem to think X360 lovers' tastes are so uniform though. There are diehard X360 fans who rank Oblivion as the best game on the console, or at least as a better game than GoW. People don't vote in monolithic blocks, they just vote for the game they like best.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 1/12/2007 5:31:16 AM | message detail
Ouch, poor FFXII.
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therealmnm | Posted 1/12/2007 6:32:11 AM | message detail
Heh, that rSFF comment was just a joke. I don't get why you seem to think X360 lovers' tastes are so uniform though. There are diehard X360 fans who rank Oblivion as the best game on the console, or at least as a better game than GoW. People don't vote in monolithic blocks, they just vote for the game they like best.

I didn't say ALL Xbox fans like Gears of War better than Oblivion. I was talking about the general trend of the Xbox fanbase.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2007 12:49:36 PM | message detail
Message From Ultima_X at 2007-01-12 20:16:01
Just a minor note; on the lists on the home page or lists for top message boards on a system and such, Twilight Princess is just called 'Legend of Zelda'. I know it's always been referred to as such, but will the name ever get fixed?
Message From GameFAQs at 2007-01-12 20:37:19
That's always bugged me too.


Finally got that one fixed. Thanks Ceej =p

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Chicago17 | Posted 1/12/2007 1:49:04 PM | message detail
Hmm...*looks at the X-stats*

O_o



Umm....how does everything look if the following is done?

Tifa = Vincent
Zelda = Ganondorf
Snake = Samus
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Master Moltar | Posted 1/12/2007 2:13:22 PM | message detail
I said "wow" at Zelda.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2007 3:09:42 PM | message detail
BEST OF 2001: Overall Game of the Year
Conker's Bad Fur Day 2.67% 823
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 4.5% 1385
Final Fantasy Chronicles 1.94% 598
Final Fantasy X 30.33% 9344
Golden Sun 2.45% 755
Grand Theft Auto 3 17.35% 5346
Halo 6.05% 1863
Max Payne 2.17% 670
Metal Gear Solid 2 10.15% 3126
Phantasy Star Online 2.56% 790
Shenmue II 2.59% 798
Super Smash Bros. Melee 15.17% 4674
Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons 2.07% 637
TOTAL VOTES 30809


Does anybody else find it to be a bad sign for the PS3 here when Halo lost to games like MGS2, SSBM, GTA3, and FFX...while Resistance is losing to every game in today's options except for FFVA, which is most likely being SFF'd enough to keep it from beating Resistance? It's also worth pointing out that Resistance had much more favor in its PS3-GotY than Halo did in its XBox-GotY (70.18% to 58.24%)...

...the PS3 has an uphill battle to fight in all sorts of demographics, I do believe.
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ZFS | Posted 1/12/2007 5:40:57 PM | message detail
The PS3 will probably have trouble until it starts getting that wave of killer app titles and a price drop, and eventually end up at a close second to the Wii. I wouldn't expect anything out of it, or games like Resistance, until later down the line.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2007 7:15:58 PM | message detail
I don't think there will be a clear-cut winner in the console war; the three systems will eventually serve three distinct demographics.

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magicians magic hat | Posted 1/12/2007 8:00:24 PM | message detail
I think Ulti's on the right track here. It will be really interesting to see how this generation shapes up.
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ZFS | Posted 1/12/2007 8:02:25 PM | message detail
There's not going to be a clear cut winner like there was for this generation; we'll never see a console generation as one-sided as this one again, but in all likelihood it's not going to do any sort of splitting down the middle.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2007 8:11:33 PM | message detail
I feel like the 360 will certainly stay ahead of the PS3 (though not necessarily a blowout)...but other than that, I can't decide who I think will finish in what place.
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ZFS | Posted 1/12/2007 9:11:50 PM | message detail
Heh. It definitely looks like I was off by a whole lot with FFXII putting up a fight; it's getting absolutely rocked right now, and Twilight Princess is putting up some impressive numbers.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/12/2007 9:13:51 PM | message detail
It's not going to stay over 50% by the end at this rate though. =/
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 1/12/2007 9:26:12 PM | message detail
"I feel like the 360 will certainly stay ahead of the PS3"

Really? To be honest, I think the PS3 will still win over 360 in Europe, though not by a whole lot. Combine that with the fact that the 360 already lost in Japan and I just can't believe that. Unless you only meant in NA.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2007 9:53:59 PM | message detail
I just submitted a feedback suggestion asking Ceej to do a games contest this spring. What I really want is for characters to take a year off and for there to be a 128 game bracket, but I'd still me more than happy with 64. Hopefully he considers one or the other, preferably the former >_>

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transience | Posted 1/12/2007 11:36:45 PM | message detail
all I care about is that we get a legitimate game contest with good seeds. 64, 128, doesn't matter as long as we get one.

god, TP is doing some damage today. I actually undershot TP -- or rather, I overshot FFXII. I thought simply being a FF title would give it at least 25% of the vote. whoops.
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DivineKnight44 | Posted 1/12/2007 11:40:58 PM | message detail
I can't say I'm impressed with TP here. If GoW was out of the poll, the votes would probably be even distributed between FFXII and LoZ. This puts TP beating FFXII about 65-35. FFXII is probably only slightly stronger than FFIX. OoT is expected to 60-40 FFX which is a lot stronger than FFXII.
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transience | Posted 1/12/2007 11:42:38 PM | message detail
now that's some number twisting!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/12/2007 11:56:47 PM | message detail
lol TP more like weaker than Wind WakerP
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/13/2007 1:13:57 AM | message detail
Speaking of this Spring's Game Contest, what should the setup for our 2 contenders and 2 wildcards be? Are you thinking:

FF7
TP

Ocarina
FF12

Or should we let TP have a crack at Ocarina instead? Trouble there is I can't see FF12 avoiding a massive SFFing by 7...

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ZFS | Posted 1/13/2007 1:51:59 AM | message detail
I can't say I'm impressed with TP here. If GoW was out of the poll, the votes would probably be even distributed between FFXII and LoZ. This puts TP beating FFXII about 65-35. FFXII is probably only slightly stronger than FFIX. OoT is expected to 60-40 FFX which is a lot stronger than FFXII.

...That's a really...unique take on it. But that screams damage control more than anything else; what Twilight Princess is doing today is certainly impressive. It's rocking what I had predicted at least.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/13/2007 2:43:08 AM | message detail
Unless you only meant in NA.

I should have definitely clarified that, heh. Yeah, that's what I meant...I don't know the trends of Europe too well, and we both know 360 is all but ignored in Japan despite its efforts.


As for right now...LoZ:TP is trying its damnedest to make FF12/Gears of War look like MKDS/God of War. If that's not a testament of power, I don't know what is anymore...and I expect RE4 to do better than lots of people do in a Game Contest, too, so...yikes.

What's scary, too, is that -- though this hype is definitely strong for LoZ:TP -- since it's such an epic game and a launch game for a new system right now, it will eventually get even stronger. SSBM lost to FFX, GTA3, and MGS2 in 2k1's GotY polls when it first came out on a new system...but in 2k4, once the Gamecube circulated more, SSBM beat MGS2, GTA:VC, FFX, and Starcraft in the most stacked division we have seen since 2k2. Also, all three of the games in the GotY poll that beat SSBM were on a system that had been out for a year; to compare, the 360 has been out for a year and the PS2 has been out since 2000, while the Gamecube's from 2001 and the Wii is new...and, though I know LoZ:TP was on the Gamecube, I bet its being on the Wii is what really drove it home. So, when you think about whatever Gamecube base that bought it is helping and the Wii owners likely becoming LoZ:TP owners in the future and probably becoming LoZ:TP likers, well...it could K some A.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/13/2007 2:47:33 AM | message detail
Also, Gears of War is really doing well for itself. I didn't expect FF12 to blow it out, but I didn't see it matching up with FF12 quite this well either...and I figure the rest of the day will be more kind to GoW than FF12, too. Can't imagine an upset, but it could easily get within 2.5% by the end of this.
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transience | Posted 1/13/2007 7:51:44 AM | message detail
I think, assuming we get the Big Three in the final poll, it'll look something like this:

Twilight Princess: 48%
FFXII: 31%
GOW: 21%


hmm, not bad. I nailed Gears of War but overestimated FF12. (I don't think I underestimated TP, not that I can tell) GOW will probably rise as the day vote kicks in, too.

I've been skeptical on Balthier's contest strength since FF12 came out because I just don't think FF12 is as popular as the other FF titles. (9 included, though 12 beats 9 right now since it's new.) I don't think he's gonna pull a Kuja, but I wouldn't be amazed to see him as a low midcarder at best.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 1/13/2007 9:03:13 AM | message detail
I can't say I'm impressed with TP here. If GoW was out of the poll, the votes would probably be even distributed between FFXII and LoZ. This puts TP beating FFXII about 65-35. FFXII is probably only slightly stronger than FFIX. OoT is expected to 60-40 FFX which is a lot stronger than FFXII.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/13/2007 11:25:40 AM | message detail
That's an old school stats topic post.

A+
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/13/2007 11:31:51 AM | message detail
Also, let's keep in mind that Twilight Princess is beating its competition nearly as bad as RE4 dominated God of War and Mario Kart DS. This has to be the most impressive GOTY victory ever.
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transience | Posted 1/13/2007 11:32:52 AM | message detail
I dunno, you could say that FFX dominating SSBM like it did was equally impressive.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/13/2007 11:35:55 AM | message detail
You could make that argument, but the Smash series was nowhere near the be-all end-all of Nintendo party games as it is now. The fact that the first "true" FF game in five years is being held well under FFX-2's percentage in the 2003 poll speaks volumes.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/13/2007 12:46:00 PM | message detail
Considering the PS2 had a year's worth of a head-start on the GC and Xbox back in 2k1 makes it not so impressive -- notice the top three games in 2k1's GotY poll were PS2 games (FFX, GTA3, and MGS2) while it was still being debated how well received the Gamecube or Xbox would be. Regardless, FFX was certainly impressive for only being out about two-three weeks and still winning like that, but as-is I'm giving the award to LoZ:TP.

If Halo 2 had won GotY in 2k4, I would be tempted to give it to that though, ha.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/13/2007 12:48:08 PM | message detail
Also, though simply by comparisons of today's poll and last year's final GotY poll it should be easy, I don't think this match-up feels so cut-n-dry...

...but would you think Gears of Wars beating Mario Kart DS is a gimme?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 1/13/2007 3:17:15 PM | message detail
I have no confidence in handheld games.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 1/13/2007 3:23:58 PM | message detail
Oh, the Nomination Rally Tournament has officially begun! The first voting topic can be found here:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33025889
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/13/2007 5:56:40 PM | message detail
Alright, we'll flip it and saw this: would Gears of War be a gimme to beat God of War?
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Haste_2 | Posted 1/13/2007 8:58:31 PM | message detail
http://www.thengamer.com/stats/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt301-350/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt317/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt317%20Pg7.htm
http://www.thengamer.com/stats/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt301-350/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt317/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt317%20Pg8.htm

Hm...

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Haste_2 | Posted 1/13/2007 9:06:53 PM | message detail
I was expecting Wii to be winning, but by THAT much?

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Haste_2 | Posted 1/13/2007 9:09:17 PM | message detail
Whoops, I remembered the earlier "Rank the PS3/Wii/360" PotD wrong.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/13/2007 9:20:27 PM | message detail
Wow, TP not only managed to keep its head way above the 50% line, but the poll also drew in a Contestish 100k+ votes (up from 86k the day before). It'll be a real beast this Spring, no doubt!

And I know it's still the power hour, but my goodness at this Wii domination. It was to be expected given what we've seen of Next Gen tier, but this would be one truly pathetic showing from the PS2 if it stays this low. FF12, KH2, Okami, and GH2, and you can only manage 13%?

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/13/2007 9:41:16 PM | message detail
To be fair, people might be seeing this poll as a look at the system itself, rather than the games.
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ZFS | Posted 1/13/2007 9:45:03 PM | message detail
Just the nature of the site right now.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2007 9:47:24 PM | message detail
Just a few more years until we come around to MicrosoftFAQs!

...seriously, the 360 almost beating the PS2 and PS3 combined? o_O
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2007 9:47:52 PM | message detail
Err, take back that almost. OUCH
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Janus5000 | Posted 1/13/2007 9:49:28 PM | message detail
360's almost beating PS2, PS3, and PSP combined.
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transience | Posted 1/13/2007 11:20:32 PM | message detail
wow.. a system with like two games anyone cares about is beating systems with a full year of goodness! yay!

I'd take God of War over Gears of War.. I guess.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2007 12:48:42 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2631
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2612
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2623
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629

Anybody else find these polls to be...weird for the PS3? Especially looking at them in that order and knowing they were all taken after Christmas.
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ZFS | Posted 1/14/2007 12:54:25 AM | message detail
I'm still pretty shocked at how poorly the PS2 is doing and how well the Wii is doing. I know we have seen a shift here at GameFAQs, but this is rough.

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