GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 435
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 1/10/2007 5:44:16 PM | message detail |
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I'm not really in the loop on MM games... never been a huge fan. I
played one of them back in the day (3 I think... not really sure, I was
pretty damn young), I just got into it with the collection. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 1/10/2007 5:44:49 PM | message detail |
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...but my daddy said so ;_; --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/10/2007 5:53:35 PM | message detail |
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the original Mega Man is like the original Sonic.. nay, worse. it's
buggy and irritating and tedious and just not that fun. 2 and 3 is
where they perfected the formula before it got stale. personally, I
like 2 more, but I'd vote for 2 or 3 in just about any match. I've also not played X, but there's that poll that says the site prefers X to the original series. I won't make arguments for or against that. --- xyzzy |
| Haste_2 | Posted 1/10/2007 6:01:18 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo getting in isn't like Captain Falcon getting in... Mewtwo gets a lot of popularity from Pokemon itself. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "It means Rufus Shinra 18 0wned us! ...I think." |
| Big Bob | Posted 1/10/2007 6:02:03 PM | message detail |
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3 > 2 > X And we need either Sonic & Knuckles or Sonic 3 in. I'm positive either of them would perform better than Sonic 2. --- I lost? But I never lose! Well, dammit! If that's how it is... I'm just gonna blow up the planet! *does so* |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/10/2007 6:04:40 PM | message detail |
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the key to Sonic doing well is not drawing Mario. put it up against a
neutral title like Street Fighter 2, God of War or GTA and I'd probably
pick it to win, but if it gets FF or Nintendo it's going to get blown
out of the water. Sonic and Knuckles wouldn't have done any better vs.
Mario World. --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 1/10/2007 7:07:53 PM | message detail |
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I think, assuming we get the Big Three in the final poll, it'll look something like this: Twilight Princess: 48% FFXII: 31% GOW: 21% Hm. I think it's closer to 45% - 40% - 15%, with the percentage order being the game order you have there. and if we get a game contest? I'd like to see people decide on a Mega Man game and get it in. I'd like to see Chrono Cross. To these two, I would like to add in Final Fantasy VIII. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/10/2007 7:25:16 PM | message detail |
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I think the XBox crowd will be enough to keep it over 15%. "casual"
games like Halo, GOW, GTA, etc seem to do very well in GOTY polls. if
FFXII does better than that, it will be at the expense of TP, not GOW.
and I certainly wouldn't rule out a respectable loss from FFXII..
though I'd be shocked to see it win outright. and yes, FF8 is another game I'd love to see... though we already have four or five FF titles that would be great, so I don't want to saturate the field. same with Zelda - I don't want to see Zelda 1, LTTP, OOT, MM, WW, TP all in the field. four at most for both franchises. if I had my pick: Zelda: 1 - because as I've posted many times before, I find it to be the single most interesting game in terms of strength. I want to see if it can stand up to a modern game LTTP - obvious OOT - obvious TP - obvious Final Fantasy: 6 - I want to see if it's really in decline or if we're just being deceived by lists and its pitiful characters in summer contests 7 - obvious 8 - I'm still not convinced it's stronger than 10, but it deserves a shot and 10's already had a go 12 - it's new and exciting and could be anywhere I want 10 as well, but there's just no room. --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 1/10/2007 7:34:07 PM | message detail |
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I think the XBox crowd will be enough to keep it over 15%. "casual"
games like Halo, GOW, GTA, etc seem to do very well in GOTY polls. if
FFXII does better than that, it will be at the expense of TP, not GOW.
and I certainly wouldn't rule out a respectable loss from FFXII..
though I'd be shocked to see it win outright. Yeah, I suppose that's true. It did feel pretty strange putting Gears of War so low. I think FFXII is going to end up losing, but not in any type of blowout. I think it'll be pretty close to TP, and perhaps even pull out a win. I view those two as being closer to equal than others. We'll have to see, though. and yes, FF8 is another game I'd love to see... though we already have four or five FF titles that would be great, so I don't want to saturate the field. same with Zelda - I don't want to see Zelda 1, LTTP, OOT, MM, WW, TP all in the field. four at most for both franchises. if I had my pick: Pretty understandable. I think you could get away with having one extra for each franchise, because more strength to the contest is always a good thing -- and a lot of the big franchises are the ones with the "snubs," I'd say. If I had to choose just four from each, though, I'd probably go with something like... The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time A Link to the Past Twilight Princess The Legend of Zelda (against something not from the 8-bit generation) Final Fantasy Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VI Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy XII So, yeah, turns out we choose the same ones. I would stretch it to five each just because I think FFX and TWW could be added to each list (maybe Majora's Mask in the case of Zelda) and it wouldn't feel like we were really oversaturating the field. Stronger games is always a good thing, though I would agree that we don't need to get down to the bottom of the barrel in either franchise. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/10/2007 7:38:29 PM | message detail |
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when I was making game brackets a year ago, I used Zelda 1, LTTP, OOT
and MM. I thought MM was a better choice for its unpredictability. as for FF12 beating TP, that just puts it way too close to FF6 for my blood unless you think FF6 would beat TP. (I saw you said that you'd take FF6 -- I wouldn't.) I wouldn't take FF12 over any modern FF except for 9. I just don't think it's all that popular -- right now it might be because it's new and exciting, but in a year or two I expect it to fade away. --- xyzzy |
| ZFS | Posted 1/10/2007 7:46:40 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. I would wager that FFXII will be a distant memory in most
people's minds once Final Fantasy XIII comes out, which seems like it's
going to have a much greater mass appeal. That said, I don't
particularly view these GotY polls as translating over to contest
success, so FFXII getting close to TP here wouldn't really make me
think that FFVI was in any danger of being overtaken by it. I'd be interested in seeing another one of those "Got FFXII?" polls now that Christmas has come and gone. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/10/2007 9:19:29 PM | message detail |
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Yep, WoW still rules the MMORPG scene. Yawn. --- The Office > you. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 6:59:58 AM | message detail |
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All this talk about limiting the number of FF/Zelda titles in a games
contest really makes me want to see either a bracket with 128 games or
64 entirely new games (with maybe an exhibition match against former
champ FFVII). There are certainly enough games to do so; it wouldn't
even be very challenging to make a bracket with 64 games that have come
out since the last contest. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/11/2007 7:05:59 AM | message detail |
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the original Mega Man is like the original Sonic.. nay, worse. it's buggy and irritating and tedious and just not that fun. What? The original Sonic is awesome. Marble Zone still remains one of the best designed Sonic zones ever. It wasn't all about speed and running right as fast as you can. It actually involved a great deal of platforming. That level is just plain awesome. The music in that game is classic as well. Sure, later games improved on gameplay mechanics, but it's not like they made the original Sonic obsolete. I think the original Sonic is more comparable to MMX rather than MM1... --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 7:30:04 AM | message detail |
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I wasn't crazy about MM1 or Sonic 1, and I think both of them are the
worst of their 2D series or close to it...then again though, I started
with their sequels first too. --- The Office > you. |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 1/11/2007 8:35:16 AM | message detail |
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So we all agree that the 3 biggest games are Megaman 2,3 and X. If we need one more for a fourpack, then I suggest Megaman X4. --- Rufus Shinra 18 had Luigi over Sonic and he still PWND me in the guru contest. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 1/11/2007 10:13:27 AM | message detail |
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I'd just like to state that creating a "MM Army" where all agree to nom
the winner of a MM2/3/X tournament is a very good idea, and that
furthermore, I sign up for said army. As for Sonic, I think it might work if everyone just went right ahead and nommed "Sonic 3 & Knuckles." We already know that CJay's automated nomination counting is flawed ("Chrono" is a different series than "Crono", and he didn't even bother to combine the two before making the bracket), so it seems that even if he wouldn't accept S3&K as a game, those noms would at least count for Sonic 3 and/or Sonic & Knuckles. --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 1/11/2007 10:18:10 AM | message detail |
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I'd be interested in seeing how Sonic Adventure 2 Battle would do in a
games contest, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually had
some decent strength behind it, especially since (correct me if I'm
wrong) it seems to be the game that got a lot of younger gamers hooked
on Sonic. OMG DON'T YELL AT ME PLZ --- This was Ed Bellis. Rufus Shinra 18 took a shotgun to my bracket. Congrats, Guru champ! |
| Big Bob | Posted 1/11/2007 10:19:29 AM | message detail |
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I agree with Mr. Bellis. --- I lost? But I never lose! Well, dammit! If that's how it is... I'm just gonna blow up the planet! *does so* |
| transience | Posted 1/11/2007 10:32:42 AM | message detail |
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I fully expect Sonic 3 > 2 > SA2. I'm cool with seeing SA2, but I
think the originals would just do better. I might join in if people
want to do the same kind of rally tournament with Sonic 1 / 2 / 3 / SA2. What? The original Sonic is awesome. Marble Zone still remains one of the best designed Sonic zones ever. It wasn't all about speed and running right as fast as you can. It actually involved a great deal of platforming. That level is just plain awesome. The music in that game is classic as well. Sure, later games improved on gameplay mechanics, but it's not like they made the original Sonic obsolete. I think the original Sonic is more comparable to MMX rather than MM1... what I meant was that later games improved on the formula to most people. where's that poll? favourite Sonic game: 3276 22.83% Sonic & Knuckles 1595 11.11% Sonic the Hedgehog 2714 18.91% Sonic the Hedgehog 2 1701 11.85% Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Sonic 1 seems significantly behind 2 and 3/K and I'm sure it's the same way everywhere else, including on this board. --- yzzyx |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/11/2007 11:14:03 AM | message detail |
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I'd be interested in seeing how Sonic Adventure 2 Battle would do in
a games contest, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually had
some decent strength behind it, especially since (correct me if I'm
wrong) it seems to be the game that got a lot of younger gamers hooked
on Sonic. I would tend to agree, but then again for every fan of the adventure series (like me), you have somebody that says the 3D Sonic games all sucked and they should have never left the classic series. Once you balance that out, I can't see SA2B being more popular than the 2D Sonics (which most people at least like). Even IF SA2B is the best Sonic game, there are a lot of people that didn't like having to treasure hunt and mech-walk. what I meant was that later games improved on the formula to most people. where's that poll? favourite Sonic game: Oh, I didn't say the original Sonic should be as POPULAR as its sequels. But with the comparison to the original Mega Man, it seemed like you were implying that the original Sonic was bad in that statement. Sure the later two Sonics had added gameplay features, but the original Sonic didn't NEED those added features in its gameplay. The original Sonic was more platform oriented as opposed to pure speed. It's kinda like SMB3 compared to the original Super Mario Bros. SMB3 improved on the gameplay, but it didn't make the original seem bad. The original SMB is still fine on it's own. Now MM2 and MM3 did make the original look bad. I was just saying comparing Sonic to that wasn't really a fair comparison to me! --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 1/11/2007 3:21:14 PM | message detail |
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I might join in if people want to do the same kind of rally tournament with Sonic 1 / 2 / 3 / SA2. Considering S&K won said Favorite Sonic poll, it should have a shot in that sort of format. I still say we all just nominated Sonic 3 & Knuckles anyway. --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 4:45:01 PM | message detail |
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Regarding overall GotY: TP's managed to outsell FFXII already, and it
seems to be somewhat more popular on GameFAQs, so it should be a lock
for GotY (even more than it was before). FFXII's also catching up to
KH2 pretty rapidly, despite KH1 outselling FFX. How odd. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| ZFS | Posted 1/11/2007 4:47:25 PM | message detail |
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It's just barely outsold FFXII, to the point where I would sooner call
them equal for a place like GameFAQs -- 1.4 million to 1.3 million,
including the GCN version for TP. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/11/2007 4:50:02 PM | message detail |
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It's just barely outsold FFXII, to the point where I would sooner call them equal for a place like GameFAQs -- 1.4 million to 1.3 million, including the GCN version for TP. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HEROIC MARIO I KNEW AND LOVED? Also, TP takes the GotY in a walk. I'd see it get over 50% in the final poll before I saw it lose to FFXII. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| ZFS | Posted 1/11/2007 4:52:42 PM | message detail |
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I fully expect Twilight Princess to actually win the final GotY poll,
but I don't think it's going to blow away FFXII. I believe it's
entirely possible for FFXII to win, but I wouldn't consider it very
likely. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| magicians magic hat | Posted 1/11/2007 4:54:33 PM | message detail |
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This is my first time ever posting in one of these topics ever in the whole history of the universe. --- Oh me? I'm doing nothing. Just watching the Sanbone Trio run around and high five each other after kicking my ASS WTF I'M SO ANGRY GODDAMMIT ALL TO HELL!!!!! |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 1/11/2007 5:35:36 PM | message detail |
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No kidults allowed. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 1/11/2007 6:56:07 PM | message detail |
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Its probably the best topic on Board 8 when its in its prime. A.K.A during actual contest season. --- Mr. Inverse Absolute Power WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:13:03 PM | message detail |
| LoZ:TP is currently beating FF12 worse than RE4
beat GoW, and I expect RE4 to have real good strength in a contest as
well as FF12 being able to soundly beat GoW. Wow. I'll let this poll finish out, but I may be quickly changing my mind about my FF3/6 > LoZ:TP pick if this keeps up. --- The Office > you. |
| Big Bob | Posted 1/11/2007 9:15:36 PM | message detail |
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...Considering how badly Oblivion did compared to expectations in the
360 poll, I'm amazed it's still keeping up with FFXII and GoW. --- I lost? But I never lose! Well, dammit! If that's how it is... I'm just gonna blow up the planet! *does so* |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/11/2007 9:16:59 PM | message detail |
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Meh, this is still the Power Hour. It shouldn't look nearly this disparate by the end (though it may feel like it). But yeah, 50%+ in the final poll looks more than doable at this rate. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| ZFS | Posted 1/11/2007 9:18:50 PM | message detail |
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Yikes. FFXII is not faring too well right now, but it should make this a bit more respectable by the end of it. --- "There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:20:42 PM | message detail |
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NSMB is rSFF'ing LoZ:TP, no wonder why it's not breaking 50% right now!!! Nevermind the fact that NSMB + LoZ:TP = 49.12% right now..... --- The Office > you. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/11/2007 9:21:01 PM | message detail |
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And gogogo Portable Ops KICK NSMB'S ASS --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/11/2007 9:22:03 PM | message detail |
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I think TP wins. ~*ST*~ --- "On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everything drops to zero." Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: PoR |
| Big Bob | Posted 1/11/2007 9:22:23 PM | message detail |
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Lego Star Wars > Final Fantasy V confirmed! --- I lost? But I never lose! Well, dammit! If that's how it is... I'm just gonna blow up the planet! *does so* |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 1/11/2007 9:26:18 PM | message detail |
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Twilight Princess is doing better than I expected, but not absurdly so.
Final Fantasy XII, on the other hand, is doing a good deal worse,
especially in comparison to Gears of War and Oblivion. --- Mustache...and green... |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:26:53 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't dare say this for tomorrow...but it's possible GoW could
beat FF12 today. Both the 360 and the FPS genre appeases the
after-school vote, GoW is hot right now, and Halo 3 recently outdid
FF13 in the final hours of a most-anticipated poll...a likely flawed
poll, but still the truth. If GoW can keep up with FF12 during the night (which would be a nice feat), GoW has a good chance to beat FF12 today...but tomorrow, FF12 would beat its ass. Not like a TOTAL beatdown -- I imagine dropping Oblivion would help GoW alot -- but FF12 should benefit more from a drop-off in contestants. --- The Office > you. |
| transience | Posted 1/11/2007 9:31:24 PM | message detail |
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wow, and I thought my 48% for TP was a BOLD PREDICTION. FFXII will surely do better once the beginning of the poll ends.. but damn. TPFAQs, yo. --- yzzyx |
| transience | Posted 1/11/2007 9:32:43 PM | message detail |
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and I really hope we get a three-way poll tomorrow and not a four-way
with Oblivion, even though it probably deserves to be there. Oblivion
will suck FF12's votes more than anything else, I'd think, GOW included. --- yzzyx |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 1/11/2007 9:43:12 PM | message detail |
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Oh jeez, no KH2 in the mix to suck away Square votes, and FF12 is still
managing to stumble this badly? I guess the Wii poll should have been a
better indication for me, but even after seeing that I didn't think TP
could dominate to this extent with so many other options to choose from. --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:46:53 PM | message detail |
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BEST OF 2005: Game of the Year Call of Duty 2 7.72% 4675 F.E.A.R. 4.77% 2887 God of War 13.06% 7910 GTA: Liberty City Stories 3.24% 1960 Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap 6.67% 4041 Mario Kart DS 11.11% 6727 Ninja Gaiden Black 3.54% 2142 Resident Evil 4 41.29% 25008 Star Wars: Battlefront II 8.62% 5222 TOTAL VOTES 60572 2.49% between 3rd and 4th last year, and SW:B2 was cut from the final poll, and the top four were all on various platforms (GC [though not technically JUST], PS2, DS, and multi). Our top four looks to be GC/Wii, PS2, 360, and 360...so there's a chance the bottom 360 game gets dropped on that basis. Even if not on those grounds, right now there is still a 1.85% gap between Oblivion and GoW and CJay saw GoW decimate its ass two days ago, so the more that is widened (if it does at all), the better it looks for a three-game poll tomorrow. --- The Office > you. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:52:02 PM | message detail |
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Heh...ya know, I really wish the LoZ:TP's would have been divided right now, ha. --- The Office > you. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2007 9:54:10 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I would also love to see a one-on-one match of LoZ:TP/Scurge: Hive right now. That would be an ass-beating to behold. --- The Office > you. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 11:05:15 PM | message detail |
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2.49% between 3rd and 4th last year, and SW:B2 was cut from the
final poll, and the top four were all on various platforms (GC [though
not technically JUST], PS2, DS, and multi). Our top four looks to be
GC/Wii, PS2, 360, and 360...so there's a chance the bottom 360 game
gets dropped on that basis. Even if not on those grounds, right now
there is still a 1.85% gap between Oblivion and GoW and CJay saw GoW
decimate its ass two days ago, so the more that is widened (if it does
at all), the better it looks for a three-game poll tomorrow. To add to that, I would think that GoW would outdo in the day vote, since X360's day vote > PC's. But if that doesn't happen, it looks like the PC fanbase didn't support Oblivion in the X360 poll, which would be interesting. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/11/2007 11:34:45 PM | message detail |
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...Considering how badly Oblivion did compared to expectations in
the 360 poll, I'm amazed it's still keeping up with FFXII and GoW. It shouldn't be. I mean it IS a PC game too. That's just this site's PC fanbase talking. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/11/2007 11:40:42 PM | message detail |
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To add to that, I would think that GoW would outdo in the day vote,
since X360's day vote > PC's. But if that doesn't happen, it looks
like the PC fanbase didn't support Oblivion in the X360 poll, which
would be interesting. Or maybe Oblivion's showing in the 360 poll WAS the PC fanbase and the core Xbox fanbase doesn't care about the game as much as we would like to believe! --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/11/2007 11:43:15 PM | message detail |
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Or maybe Oblivion's showing in the 360 poll WAS the PC fanbase and
the core Xbox fanbase doesn't care about the game as much as we would
like to believe! So, uh, how does that make sense with today's poll in mind? FFXII is rSFFing GoW to death? --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| Haste_2 | Posted 1/11/2007 11:46:09 PM | message detail |
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So... even if there WAS both the GCN and Wii versions of Zelda: TP in
the poll, FFXII -still- couldn't come close to winning, heh... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "It means Rufus Shinra 18 0wned us! ...I think." |
