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| Kaxon | Posted 1/17/2007 5:14:16 PM | message detail |
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Just as long as you don't say it's because both were Square RPGs.
SMRPG is a Nintendo game no matter how you want to look at it. A huge
part of its popularity is due to being a Mario game. It just happened
to de developed by Square. As I recall, being made by Square was one of the main selling points at the time. It's not like Final Fantasy wasn't already a big name back then. --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
| wavedash101 | Posted 1/17/2007 5:16:24 PM | message detail |
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FF wasnt a huge name back then...it wasnt until FFVII that Square really took off overseas... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 5:18:25 PM | message detail |
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SMRPG didn't come out overseas. --- xyzzy™ |
| wavedash101 | Posted 1/17/2007 5:19:40 PM | message detail |
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So it never came out in NA huh? k watever --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 5:22:59 PM | message detail |
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err, how old are you? cause FF was indeed a "name" during the SNES era
in America. it might not be as big as it is now, but it was definitely
a known game. --- xyzzy™ |
| wavedash101 | Posted 1/17/2007 5:24:39 PM | message detail |
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Exactly...it was a known name, not huge! That game sold mostly off of the Mario name... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 5:27:15 PM | message detail |
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not to Square fans. to Square fans it was a reason to play a Mario game. yeah, Mario's the bigger "name" of the two there. but Mario RPG was.. well, Square with Mario in the title! *giggles at aitch emm* --- xyzzy™ |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/17/2007 5:30:35 PM | message detail |
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HM is Square with Mario tagged in the title! --- The Office > you. |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 6:12:07 PM | message detail |
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not to Square fans. to Square fans it was a reason to play a Mario game. Huh? A reason for Square fans to play a Mario game? On a Nintendo system which CAME with a popular Mario game and later on came with five popular Mario games (Super Mario All-Stars plus SMW) and SMRPG is the game that gave Square fans a reason to play a Mario game? I don't buy that. Individual companies weren't as big back then as they are nowadays. Sure Final Fantasy was a popular franchise, but I don't think Square as a company was nearly as popular as it was post-FF7. Really, SMRPG just happened to be developed by Square. If it had been developed by Nintendo itself, it still would have probably been just as popular. It's not like Square is a driving influence in that game. Line up SMRPG, the Paper Mario games, and the Mario & Luigi games next to each other and it's not like you can tell what Square's influence on the first game is. They all are pretty much Mario games, just RPGs. The selling point was that it was a Mario RPG. Sure, it being developed by Square was a bonus. But it's not like people wouldn't have been buying it if it were developed by someone else. Hell, did we even care who was developing the game back then? We just played them! --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| ZFS | Posted 1/17/2007 6:14:41 PM | message detail |
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FF wasnt a huge name back then...it wasnt until FFVII that Square really took off overseas... ...Final Fantasy was big name back in the day, just not on the same level it is today. It's not like "Final Fantasy" was obscure. --- "Just a Dark Knight with no courage to disobey His Majesty..." |
| ZFS | Posted 1/17/2007 6:16:10 PM | message detail |
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but Mario RPG was.. well, Square with Mario in the title! *giggles at aitch emm* Heh. ;) --- "Just a Dark Knight with no courage to disobey His Majesty..." |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 6:16:29 PM | message detail |
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I agree with you, people back then were not as company-centric as they
are today. we didn't worry about who made what nearly as much. but I rented SMRPG because I heard Squaresoft made it. I was a big FF2/3 fan at the time and was wondering what else they made. and it's not about Square's influence as much as having a brand name that you can trust. --- xyzzy™ |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 6:17:08 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but it was no bigger a name than Mario, Mega Man, Zelda, Sonic,
Street Fighter, Castlevania, etc. It was just another popular series. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 1/17/2007 6:17:49 PM | message detail |
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I got SMRPG because it had Mario in the name, then I was all like "what
the crunk is this trash" and went back to playing ToeJam & Earl in
Panic on Funkotron. --- Explicit Content. Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| ZFS | Posted 1/17/2007 6:23:04 PM | message detail |
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I thought SMRPG was pretty good. It wasn't the best the SNES had to offer in terms of RPGs, but it was enjoyable. --- "Just a Dark Knight with no courage to disobey His Majesty..." |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 6:25:24 PM | message detail |
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but I rented SMRPG because I heard Squaresoft made it. I was a big FF2/3 fan at the time and was wondering what else they made. and it's not about Square's influence as much as having a brand name that you can trust. Well it wasn't like that for me or anybody else I knew. It was another Mario game which happened to be an RPG. I was intrigued by it being an RPG since I liked the original FF and FFVI (skipped over IV). But it wasn't because it was developed by Square! It's not like there's anything remotely Square about the game. It was still basically a Mario game. A lot of people who bought the game still weren't even fans of RPGs. Hell, how many people on GameFAQs alone do you hear saying it was their first RPG? Most likely because they bought it because it was a Mario game... I'm not saying it being developed by Squaresoft didn't influence anybody, but it pales in comparison to it being another Mario game. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Kaxon | Posted 1/17/2007 6:40:07 PM | message detail |
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The only reason I considered buying it was that I knew it was made by Square, and several of my friends thought in the same way. Companies did matter in the SNES era. In the NES era they were mostly irrelevant (everything was a "Nintendo game"), but by the SNES era people paid some attention to who made what. --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
| Kaxon | Posted 1/17/2007 6:41:39 PM | message detail |
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Actually, my reaction was something like "A Mario RPG? This thing probably sucks. Oh wait, it's made by Square? They know how to make RPGs." --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 6:42:29 PM | message detail |
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well first of all, it's not like people only played the game in 1995 or
whenever. people are still discovering SMRPG for the first time today,
and some of those people would be Square fans. but that aside, it's not like you have to stick to one formula in order to be successful. Vagrant Story isn't much of an RPG but Square fans played it because Square made it. Metroid isn't very similar to Zelda, yet it gets the christ beaten out of it because they share a company. SMRPG doesn't have to be exactly the same as FF4/6 in order for people to want to check it out. I'm just saying that SMRPG is the best of both worlds -- Square with Mario in the title. it bridges the two biggest fanbases on the site. yes, Mario is a bigger factor here than Square, just like Disney is probably a bigger factor than Square in Kingdom Hearts. but you'd be nuts to dismiss it completely! --- xyzzy™ |
| ZFS | Posted 1/17/2007 6:45:56 PM | message detail |
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well first of all, it's not like people only played the game in 1995
or whenever. people are still discovering SMRPG for the first time
today, and some of those people would be Square fans. but that aside, it's not like you have to stick to one formula in order to be successful. Vagrant Story isn't much of an RPG but Square fans played it because Square made it. Metroid isn't very similar to Zelda, yet it gets the christ beaten out of it because they share a company. SMRPG doesn't have to be exactly the same as FF4/6 in order for people to want to check it out. I'm just saying that SMRPG is the best of both worlds -- Square with Mario in the title. it bridges the two biggest fanbases on the site. yes, Mario is a bigger factor here than Square, just like Disney is probably a bigger factor than Square in Kingdom Hearts. but you'd be nuts to dismiss it completely! I'd agree with pretty much all that. --- "Just a Dark Knight with no courage to disobey His Majesty..." |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 6:52:23 PM | message detail |
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well first of all, it's not like people only played the game in 1995
or whenever. people are still discovering SMRPG for the first time
today, and some of those people would be Square fans. but that aside, it's not like you have to stick to one formula in order to be successful. Vagrant Story isn't much of an RPG but Square fans played it because Square made it. Metroid isn't very similar to Zelda, yet it gets the christ beaten out of it because they share a company. SMRPG doesn't have to be exactly the same as FF4/6 in order for people to want to check it out. I'm just saying that SMRPG is the best of both worlds -- Square with Mario in the title. it bridges the two biggest fanbases on the site. yes, Mario is a bigger factor here than Square, just like Disney is probably a bigger factor than Square in Kingdom Hearts. but you'd be nuts to dismiss it completely! Well I already touched on the first point. It may have been a factor to people who played it POST FF7, but I don't think it was that big of a factor during the SNES era. Vagrant Story got played (including by me) because Square was an absolute beast during the PS1 era. Not as much during the SNES era. And I still disagree that SMRPG is the best of both worlds. It's a Mario game developed by Square! There's not much difference between it and the rest of the Mario RPGs. It's the best of both worlds between Mario and RPG, but not necessarily Square. I don't think Kingdom Hearts is a fair comparison here. Both Disney AND Square's presences in that game are apparent. FF characters, a FF-like protagonist. It's just set in Disney worlds. Super Mario RPG is set in a Mario world. It has Mario enemies. It brings many Mario mechanics into the game... It was just a Mario game developed by Square to me. It's the same as the Oracle games and Minish Cap being developed by Capcom.... --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 6:56:22 PM | message detail |
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disagree on the Oracle games comparison -- you see, SMRPG is Square's genre.
that's why it's the best of both worlds, it's got Nintendo characters
in an RPG format. it draws fans from both sides of the aisle here. --- xyzzy™ |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 6:57:20 PM | message detail |
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Actually, I don't even know why I'm arguing. The games contest was in
2004, so both games' (SMRPG and CT) popularity were probably heavily
influenced by heavy ROM downloading. I just disagree with Square being
a major factor in the game's popularity back during its release. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/17/2007 6:57:53 PM | message detail |
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yeah, this is just me passing the time while at work! --- xyzzy™ |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/17/2007 7:01:45 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Kingdom Hearts is a fair comparison here. Both Disney
AND Square's presences in that game are apparent. FF characters, a
FF-like protagonist. It's just set in Disney worlds. Super Mario RPG is
set in a Mario world. It has Mario enemies. It brings many Mario
mechanics into the game. As someone who was a huge Culex fanboy back in the day, I'll have to disagree. I just disagree with Square being a major factor in the game's popularity back during its release. Meh, I think that an overlap with CT is still legit from back then. I can see plenty of gamers loving SMRPG and going to play CT, or CT fans trying out SMRPG. --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 7:01:56 PM | message detail |
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Ha, I knew you were going to say that! I agree that it being an RPG brought in some fans. But it would have been popular regardless
of who developed it. And there are still a lot of people who bought it
for being another Mario game, not for being an RPG. And I would say
that the Mario aspect played a much larger factor than the RPG factor
back then. There were a ton of my friends for who it was their first
RPG. They only played it because it was a Mario game. And I've seen the
same thing said by people all over the site. --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 7:07:04 PM | message detail |
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As someone who was a huge Culex fanboy back in the day, I'll have to disagree. So the presence of Culex as an optional boss fight makes you disagree that Super Mario RPG is basically set in a Mario world with Mario enemies and Mario-like game mechanics? Even Culex himself said he was from another world! <_<; --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/17/2007 7:41:39 PM | message detail |
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Even Culex himself said he was from another world! <_<; Just like the FF characters in KH, which was the original comparison. >_> --- "I am the Scourge of God, appointed to chastise you! You are wicked, but I am more wicked than you!" |
| therealmnm | Posted 1/17/2007 7:59:37 PM | message detail |
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Their world was IN that game though! Ha! --- Currently playing: Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess (GC), Castlevania PoR, Yoshi's Island DS |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 1/18/2007 4:54:05 PM | message detail |
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Day 5 of the Nomination Rally Tournament here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33129165 --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2007 4:34:29 PM | message detail |
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=33145833 ...no 'effing way. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MasterMoltar | Posted 1/19/2007 4:37:27 PM | message detail |
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Color me disappointed. --- It's MOOOOOOLLLLLTTTAAAARRRR!!!! |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/19/2007 4:38:32 PM | message detail |
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I second that. I'm cool with this if it's a quick little top 10 list,
but if it's a full blown bracket, blah. though I'll change that blah to
a "yay!" if we get a game contest regardless. --- xyzzy™ |
| ZFS | Posted 1/19/2007 4:40:38 PM | message detail |
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You spoony bard! --- "Just a Dark Knight with no courage to disobey His Majesty..." |
| metoolfan | Posted 1/19/2007 4:41:19 PM | message detail |
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I'm alive again! --- "God, I'm so much ****ing better than Smurf at each and everything I do, and I like it." - Sess *is XIII is cool* |
| Haste_2 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:20:11 PM | message detail |
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Squaresoft will dominate this contest to no end, except well, Zero Wing. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Tediz247 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:24:43 PM | message detail |
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I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw
space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hari-Kari rock. I need
scissors! 61! - Metal Gear Solid 2 --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| Draco1214 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:26:39 PM | message detail |
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All Your Base wins this contest. I really can't think of a quote that can beat that one. --- Currently Playing: Trauma Center: Second Opinion, Metal Slug Anthology Owned by Rufus Shinra 18 in the Guru contest. |
| Tediz247 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:29:01 PM | message detail |
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The quote that wins this contest will be "What I have shown you is
reality. What you remember, that is the illusion." It's FFVII, and it's
probably Sephiroth's most famous quote. I'll be surprised if anything
beats it. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2007 5:39:04 PM | message detail |
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"In my veins runs the blood of the Ancients. I am one of the rightful heirs to this planet!" ...I'm pretty sure that should top all Sephiroth quotes. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/19/2007 5:41:09 PM | message detail |
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eh, whatever. my predictions! 1. all your base / any other Zero Wing quote 2. do a barrel roll! 3. princess is in another castle 4. this guy are sick 5. master using it and you can have this 6. bad dudes 7. you spoony bard! I'm sure there's others.. those come to mind instantly. --- xyzzy™ |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 1/19/2007 5:41:19 PM | message detail |
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Oh but I totally nommed only one FFVII quote c'mon "Let's mosey," for the upset!!! --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 1/19/2007 5:42:34 PM | message detail |
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Hey! Call me a TREASURE HUNTER, or I'll rip your lungs out! --- Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:44:53 PM | message detail |
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As a winter contest (hopefully), this is actually kinda cool. I'm
guessing it'll be an actual bracket (probably of 32), because if it was
just a top ten list we'd probably be guessing it right now. --- Mustache...and green... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 1/19/2007 5:45:29 PM | message detail |
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"...Whatever" for the win! --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 1/19/2007 5:46:14 PM | message detail |
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Ooh, soft! - Final Fantasy IX Succeeding you, father. - Warcraft 3 ...Whatever. - Final Fantasy VIII ... - Final Fantasy VII Gone is the magical Kingdom of Zeal, and all the dreams and ambitions of its people... I once lived there, but I was a different person then. - Chrono Trigger I wanna be a blitzball when I grow up! - Final Fantasy X Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your story, your fate is in your hands! - Final Fantasy X This is my story, and you're not a part of it! - Kingdom Hearts 2 Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing. - Metal Gear Solid 2 Unfortunately, Hell had no vacancies. - Metal Gear Solid 2 ~~~ http://www.flowsion.net/blogs/?w=Genesis Yuna. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:48:37 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and "What is man! A miserable little pile of secrets!" for the win! Pity voice acting doesn't count... --- Mustache...and green... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 1/19/2007 5:48:59 PM | message detail |
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"I'm you! I'm your shadow!" --- "I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier |
| Haste_2 | Posted 1/19/2007 5:53:45 PM | message detail |
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"This guy are sick" will probably make it in, unfortunately. ... in fact, book it. Can you post after me within 3 seconds? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 1/19/2007 5:54:01 PM | message detail |
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Impossible is just a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit. - Skies of Arcadia --- Rufus Shinra>me and stuff |
