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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 434

Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/4/2006 11:49:46 PM | message detail
Now THIS is SFF. It's just a shame we couldn't see what would've happened to poor Metroid Prime 3 if it had been included instead of GT5.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2006 7:43:29 AM | message detail
Oh, you mean Super Mario Galaxy? Yeah, you're right... wow, I didn't think GameFAQs as a whole would prefer SSBB that much over SMG, in fact....or over all the other games, for that matter.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/5/2006 7:47:32 AM | message detail
Perfect Dark/SotN vs. Goldeneye/PDS.

...What was deadly about that four-pack again? The Halo/StarCraft/Soul Calibur/Kingdom Hearts four-pack was much worse.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 12/5/2006 7:49:36 AM | message detail
What reason do people have to be more excited about SMG as opposed to SSBB? SSBB is the sequel to SSBM, the most popular game on the GC (and indeed, the most popular game of its generation here). SMG is the followup to...SMS, a game so disappointing it didn't even make the Games Contest. While there are a few that are more excited for SMG (including myself), even I can admit that SSBB has done FAR more to pique my interest than SMG has -- it probably wouldn't have done *that* hot even if SSBB wasn't there.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2006 7:49:47 AM | message detail
That was the pre-contest expectations. It was "obvious" that Kingdom Hearts would beat both Soul Calibur and Halo, it seemed.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/5/2006 7:51:33 AM | message detail
Meh, GE > SotN seemed obvious enough to me. I never really understood why it was so debatable, I guess.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 12/5/2006 7:56:05 AM | message detail
And as for preferring it *so* much over all the other games...well, the Nintendo vote is only split through two options while the Playstation vote is split over five...

...not that SSBB should have any trouble taking out any of those games individually, of course. It could be more popular than TP if Nintendo plays their cards right.
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Samurai7 | Posted 12/5/2006 7:56:24 AM | message detail
It was obvious >.>
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 12/5/2006 8:04:49 AM | message detail
Snake > Smaus!
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Samurai7 | Posted 12/5/2006 8:06:47 AM | message detail
That was obvious too obviously... come on.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 12/5/2006 8:08:29 AM | message detail
Don't look at me, I voted for Galaxy >.>

<3 Resident Evil 5 > GtA IV
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/5/2006 9:46:57 AM | message detail
I had a hard time voting in today's poll... I kinda just sat there and stared at it.

Galaxy > MGS4 > RE5 > SSBB > FFXIII > Halo 3 > Don't Care.

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Miss_Rydia | Posted 12/5/2006 9:51:04 AM | message detail
I voted Galaxy. SSBB is just another SSB. It will be good I'm sure, but it doesn't look like it will be a monumental improvement over the last entry. SMG, on the other hand, looks like it will reinvent Mario after a disappointing entry. I'm more looking forward to the game that rekindles a series than the game that continues a series.

<3 Miss R
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o4o22oo4 | Posted 12/5/2006 9:58:22 AM | message detail
The only member of the Noble Nine I'd think Tifa would even have a remote chance against in 2K7 is Mega Man, and that's only because recent years seem to indicate a striking year-by-year decline in MM's performances.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/5/2006 10:06:59 AM | message detail
Despite the fact that he's virtually equal with Sonic.

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ZFS | Posted 12/5/2006 10:07:47 AM | message detail
Galaxy > MGS4 > Brawl > FFXIII > Halo 3 > The Rest.

But yeah, SSBB rocking the poll isn't too surprising.

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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 10:10:09 AM | message detail
Fine, I'll be the first to say it...

...BOLD PREDICTION: if the poll was redone and did not feature SSBB as an option, MGS4 would win.
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zwong1 | Posted 12/5/2006 10:11:29 AM | message detail
...BOLD PREDICTION: if the poll was redone and did not feature SSBB as an option, MGS4 would win.

FF will still win but by a much smaller margin.

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ZFS | Posted 12/5/2006 10:12:22 AM | message detail
Bold (i.e., incorrect) indeed !!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/5/2006 10:25:48 AM | message detail
Metal Gear Solid 4 is indeed the correct choice, but I highly doubt it beats Final Fantasy. New fans of Snake aren't going to vote for MGS, too, necessarily.
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 10:34:36 AM | message detail
If there would have never been a trailer of SSBB at E3, I would have still thought MGS4 would have come out the big winner there. I understand that, due to this site's preferences, that FF13 would have outdone it still, but I think when you couple with it that SSBB did have a trailer there -- one that did so much to both hype Solid Snake and get SSB/M fans to check out the MGS series -- that would be enough to help MGS get ~4% of SSBB's votes today than FF13.

Would anybody disagree with me if I said MGS4 and SMG would be the two who would benefit the most if SSBB missed out?
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 10:41:34 AM | message detail
Just for fun, if you assume Mario 2k5 = Samus 2k6, Solid Snake increased by just over 4%...and Samus managing to "SFF" Solid seems to be a popular theory as well.

Just saying.
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zwong1 | Posted 12/5/2006 10:44:30 AM | message detail
Just for fun, if you assume Mario 2k5 = Samus 2k6, Solid Snake increased by just over 4%...and Samus managing to "SFF" Solid seems to be a popular theory as well.

Samus vs Snake is fishy so i think it is best to extrapolate Snake strength through constant Sonic and Megaman. Snake probably increase roughly 7% against Mario in just one year.
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 10:52:23 AM | message detail
Right -- that helps my case even more that Solid may practically be on Mario's level now, off of SSBB hype, MGS4 hype, and MGS3:S (the re-release of a game that didn't have Solid, technically). Which one do you think helped Solid the most this year? SSBB hype. What made SSBB so hyped? Solid Snake's surprise-announcement in Nintendo's biggest game since LoZ:OoT. Which two games on today's list are SSBB fans most likely to be excited about outside of SSBB? SMG and MGS4.

I'm stickin' with it -- without SSBB, MGS4 beats FF13 in today's poll. In fact, I'd say if this poll was before FF12 was released that MGS4 would be making this alot closer.
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 10:58:37 AM | message detail
I'll ask this, just to see what page we're all on: without SSBB, which gains more -- SMG or MGS4? Also, without SSBB, would you take SMG to outlast GTA4 or RE5?
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
zwong1 | Posted 12/5/2006 10:59:51 AM | message detail
Right -- that helps my case even more that Solid may practically be on Mario's level now, off of SSBB hype, MGS4 hype, and MGS3:S (the re-release of a game that didn't have Solid, technically). Which one do you think helped Solid the most this year? SSBB hype. What made SSBB so hyped? Solid Snake's surprise-announcement in Nintendo's biggest game since LoZ:OoT. Which two games on today's list are SSBB fans most likely to be excited about outside of SSBB? SMG and MGS4.

I'm stickin' with it -- without SSBB, MGS4 beats FF13 in today's poll. In fact, I'd say if this poll was before FF12 was released that MGS4 would be making this alot closer.



SSBB hype helped Snake the most this year. SSBB introduced a totally new fanbase for Snake and we know that Nintendo is pretty the most popular gaming company here on Gamefaqs.

Actually, i don't know but i believe SSBB will not really help out MGS series as well as it helped Snake. Yeah, most of the SSBB fans are anticipated in Snake being in the game but that doesn't mean that they are willing to try out MGS games..

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H__RR____H | Posted 12/5/2006 11:02:47 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, I've been saying Solid Snake came out as the winner of E3 for a long time instead of SSBB or MGS4...but I know that lots of gamers have since given the MGS series a chance since they know he's now in the game. I agree with you, but don't think the number of gamers giving it a try now is negligible.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2006 11:19:40 AM | message detail
YoAriel33 | Posted 8/26/2006 4:42:38 PM | message detail
Heh, I just found a very obvious piece of evidence that pretty much GUARANTEES Zero > Luigi.

*guards evidence as fiercely as a New England bum guards his last can of Boston BBQ baked beans*


Hm....I wonder what that was now that the obvious piece of evidence has fallen flat on its face? I'm guessing it's the fact that Luigi lost to Tifa who did worse on Sonic than Zero did... that's incredibly good evidence on paper. But, if you're here, yoblazer, you can tell.

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2006 11:20:35 AM | message detail
Sorry, didn't mean to sound trollish or anything... uh, just curious, and I thought Zero beating Luigi was obvious, myself. >.>

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wavedash101 | Posted 12/5/2006 11:23:25 AM | message detail
If they both are good...SMG influence > MGS influence easy

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/5/2006 2:17:10 PM | message detail
Any chance Halo 3 could overtake FF13 here? It should get well-within a percent of each other at this pace of Halo's gaining and FF's losing, but I figure it's going to be just out of reach.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/5/2006 7:59:27 PM | message detail
One hour until the end of the poll, and Halo 3's five votes behind FF13.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 12/5/2006 8:00:00 PM | message detail
Good lord this topic is dead. Bloody off-season :(
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/5/2006 8:02:51 PM | message detail
Wow, I didn't even bother checking the poll until I saw this topic. Plain SSBB domination, and SMG is hurting bad because of it. Interesting FF13 and Halo 3 are just about tied. MGS4 should definitely be doing better though!!
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/5/2006 8:08:34 PM | message detail
HALO TAKES THE LEAD I THOUGHT IT ALWAYS CHOKES

Oh...it's not over. ****.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2006 10:34:36 PM | message detail
POLL: Which is more likely, Sora beating Bowser or Vincent beating Mega Man?

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 12/6/2006 1:15:36 AM | message detail
Vincent beating MM.
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greatone10 | Posted 12/6/2006 2:16:50 AM | message detail
Sora beating Bowser, shamefully.
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zwong1 | Posted 12/6/2006 2:20:28 AM | message detail
I am sorry Haste 2 but i thought Sora is already stronger than Bowser according to x-stats this year.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/6/2006 5:52:40 AM | message detail
Me like today's results. FF6 FTW!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/6/2006 5:55:02 AM | message detail
According to Snake, 45% on Mega Man > 42% on Crono
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/6/2006 5:56:39 AM | message detail
And I wonder if we'll get a FFVII-FFXII poll tomorrow.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 12/6/2006 6:18:15 AM | message detail
Yeah, but I'm of the opinion Snake's a liar. At the very least I wouldn't take Mega Man over Crono, and Vincent/Squall/Auron all seem very nice upset choices over the Blue Bomber...I can't see them being too close to Sora, at any rate.
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Not_1 | Posted 12/6/2006 6:22:13 AM | message detail
I've been wondering something. Some people predicted that Squall would upset Snake, but instead Squall disappointed severely. But looking back, did Squall really disappoint that much? After all, we got that disappointment before we knew Snake was so strong.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 12/6/2006 6:25:17 AM | message detail
Squall nearly gets over 49% on Vincent despite Vincent having DoC and AC to his credit since the last time they tangled if you trust the stats. Sure, I don't necessarily believe the stats, but Snake overperforming on him is still a viable possibility. Squall could have really done some damage this year with a decent bracket position.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/6/2006 8:35:31 AM | message detail
The reason I did that poll was because it's almost impossible for both Bowser to be above Sora AND for Mega Man to be above Vincent as of this past contest, yet I noticed that Bowser and Mega Man were the favorites in both cases. Actually, it's funny that it's more possible for both to be the case than neither, since Sora's further ahead of Bowser than Mega Man is ahead of Vincent...

Time for some pure math...no extrapolating through Solid Snake involved. If Bowser squeaks by Sora with 50.00% (via over-rated Mega Man, surely), that means Vincent beats Mega Man with 52.17%. I doubt any of you would want to adjust Mega Man down that much, though. Do the opposite...assuming Mega Man slips by Vincent with 50.00% (Mega Man's over-rated, but just a little), Sora beats Bowser by the same 52.17%.

Finally, if Mega Man is adjusted down anywhere from 41.89% to between 38.68% and 40.44% in the x-stats (on Samus), while Vincent and Bowser remain at 40.44% and 35.37% respectively, theoretically Sora would beat Bowser AND Vincent would beat Mega Man. =p In no way can the math say the opposite.

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/6/2006 8:40:11 AM | message detail
I'd like to say that Snake's matches against Squall, Mega Man, and Sonic were all accurate. That means Sonic and Mega Man were constant from last year, and that Squall boosted a nice 1.5%.

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o4o22oo4 | Posted 12/6/2006 8:42:11 AM | message detail
Despite the fact that he's virtually equal with Sonic.

You see, the thing is, Mega Man used to be stronger than Sonic, and not just by a little. He's given Sephiroth a strong fight in the past, he's repeatedly beaten Snake in 2K3 and 2K4 by numbers Sonic in 2K3 and 2K4 could not have possibly achieved, and now...MM is declining.

Sonic is more or less staying stagnant because he at least has new next-gen games coming out with his name on it, keeping his fanbase intact. But MM is losing his old support as the casuals dump him for characters like Snake, with flashy new releases, as opposed to sticking with the classics. It's the same reason why, aside from MM, Crono is the member of the Noble Nine who's lost the most ground. Is it any surprise these two would be weakest of the bunch given their utter lack of new material?

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/6/2006 8:44:31 AM | message detail
Actually, it's funny that it's more possible for both to be the case than neither, since Sora's further ahead of Bowser than Mega Man is ahead of Vincent...

I meant to say, it's more possible for both Sora > Bowser and Vincent > Mega Man to be the case than the opposite inequalities.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/6/2006 6:12:54 PM | message detail
I definitely take Sora > Bowser & MM > Vincent

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