GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 434
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/26/2006 9:37:23 PM | message detail |
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No, it's not the helping... it's the helping and giggling. Navi was
annoying for "Hey! Listen!" Midna was annoying for *giggle*. Although
like I said, it's only half the game. At a pivotal point she grew on
me. Not one of my favorites or anything, but she ends up not bad. Worst character in the game is definitely Talo. --- Rufus Shinra 18 may be able to predict contests well, but can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Yes. Yes he can. |
| Aprosenf | Posted 11/26/2006 9:44:22 PM | message detail |
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So, how about that poll of the day? --- Like Cloud, I got pwned by Rufus Shinra |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/26/2006 9:52:09 PM | message detail |
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XD @ the poll being an hour old and only having 17 votes. --- The following people caused me to lose to Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest: Yoshi, Snake, Vincent, KOS-MOS, Sub-Zero, Gordon Freeman... |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/26/2006 9:52:47 PM | message detail |
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Dammit, you ruined it. --- The following people caused me to lose to Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest: Yoshi, Snake, Vincent, KOS-MOS, Sub-Zero, Gordon Freeman... |
| voltch | Posted 11/27/2006 12:34:26 PM | message detail |
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so which game are gurus supposed to nominate if we get another game contest? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/27/2006 1:04:16 PM | message detail |
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Monkey Island...I forgot which one, though. --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/27/2006 1:11:20 PM | message detail |
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calling her Navi 2.0 is like calling Tidus a good character. Then Midna is Navi 2.0. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 8: The Boss - W, 28-9 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 11/27/2006 2:06:18 PM | message detail |
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The Secret of Monkey Island. Say, do we have any hard sales figures for the first week of Wii/TP? *eyes HM* --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 11/27/2006 6:30:58 PM | message detail |
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I say we get Mewtwo in the next contest just: -So we can see how strong a pokemon can really be. -So he can have this on the back of his page >_> http://d3.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/Pokemon%20Pocket%20Monsters%20Sound%20Anime%20Collection/18._a_formidable_enemy_appears.mp3 --- "I have no fear of losing my life - if I have to save a koala or a crocodile or a kangaroo or a snake, mate, I will save it. " -Steve Irwin |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2006 9:06:22 PM | message detail |
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Midna is Navi 2.0. ~*ST*~ --- PWNED BY RUFUS SHINRA in the Guru contest! Congrats! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FF5A, Castlevania: LoI |
| creativename | Posted 11/27/2006 9:10:30 PM | message detail |
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Mii Guest C > Jay Solano --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 11/27/2006 10:10:25 PM | message detail |
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I put up the standings: http://gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/45 And updated the match tables to include the Battle Royal Also put up an Excel file that should hopefully make it easy for people to make their own x-stats: http://gamefaqscontests.com/excel/EZ_x-stats.xls It's just this contest's x-stats, but should be able to be adapted pretty easily to 32-character fields and such. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/28/2006 5:27:13 AM | message detail |
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Adjusting Tifa below Zelda? Psh. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 9: Phoenix Wright (6-2) |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/28/2006 9:42:02 AM | message detail |
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Say, do we have any hard sales figures for the first week of Wii/TP? *eyes HM* http://wii.ign.com/articles/747/747728p1.html 600K for the Wii, 454K for TP. The Wii had limited supply as well. I believe that the GCN sold 300K the first week, despite shipping far more than that, for comparison. --- 11/18/06...the day I was owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/28/2006 9:56:10 AM | message detail |
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Adjusting Tifa below Zelda? Psh. Justice !! --- "The history of light and shadow will be written in blood!" |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/28/2006 10:10:06 AM | message detail |
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It's still above Vincent though -- that's the injustice, if anything. Well, not for me, but for the stats! --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/28/2006 10:11:34 AM | message detail |
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Well, that's what happens when Samus overperforms on Solid Snake! --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 9: Phoenix Wright (6-2) |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/28/2006 10:17:48 AM | message detail |
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Heh...boosting Solid Snake at all would make Bowser > Yoshi seem
even more unreasonable on all accounts. I'm not disagreeing with you,
but man, that'd be wild to see nowadays. Speaking of which, would anybody take Bowser over Yoshi in a rematch? --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/28/2006 10:19:14 AM | message detail |
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Boosting Snake based on Samus doesn't affect Bowser/Yoshi since it brings up the entire male division. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 9: Phoenix Wright (6-2) |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/28/2006 10:20:37 AM | message detail |
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That's right, nevermind -- I just had in mind that Solid/Yoshi was head-to-head while Bowser wasn't this year. Still though, yeah, Bowser/Yoshi, who you got? --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/28/2006 10:22:36 AM | message detail |
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Bowser has looked better than Yoshi every year...except this year.
Picking Yoshi to win now seems weird. Not to mention, his high
placement in the stats seems weird, too. I sure wouldn't pick him over
Squall. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 9: Phoenix Wright (6-2) |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/28/2006 10:40:59 AM | message detail |
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I agree that's weird, though for what it's worth we know Bowser was
over-rated last year and Yoshi was behind SFF again. We also know that
Yoshi somehow managed to improve in the Mario-favorite poll and Bowser
did worse from earlier this spring, Then throw in that stats currently
say Yoshi gets 55.99% on Bowser... ...I mean, yeah, it's weird, considering Bowser got ~56% on Yoshi before and Bowser did MUCH better against Solid Snake last year than Yoshi this year (though Solid 2k6 > 2k5 and Solid's picture wasn't nearly so one-sided), and it's still possible Yoshi over-performed on Solid Snake for the same reason Samus did (if she did)...but it looks much more possible to see Yoshi > Bowser now than ever since 2k3. With enough favorable circumstances, Bowser could win, but it wouldn't be anything like 2k3 was. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/28/2006 11:03:46 AM | message detail |
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I figure if Luigi is so close to Bowser this year (predicted 52.5/47.5
match, it shouldn't be a complete shock if Yoshi was ahead of Bowser.
Just looking at all of Bowser's matches the past two years... Bowser's
a confusing one, yes he is. Did he fluke out that much last year, or
did he just have an amazing year in 2K5? --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/28/2006 11:04:25 AM | message detail |
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If he fluked in 2005, he fluked every match. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 9: Phoenix Wright (6-2) |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/28/2006 11:08:29 AM | message detail |
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Actually, Bowser vs. Ocelot and Bowser vs. Kirby fit well in terms of
this year... come to think of it, even Bowser vs. Chun Li fits. Just
Ryu and Snake don't make much sense by themselves, and you can already
explain one of those. --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| wavedash101 | Posted 11/28/2006 11:36:14 AM | message detail |
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Well Yoshi now has Yoshi's Story 2...but Bowser will have Super Paper
Mario and SMG(better if he makes an appearance, I think he will)... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/28/2006 11:54:53 AM | message detail |
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I don't see Bowser and Yoshi's fanbases being sufficiently different
for Yoshi to overcome a 56/44 loss. And what has Yoshi done outside
that match against sprite Snake to indicate he can beat Bowser? --- I got owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest. So, time to nominate President Rufus Shinra............er, Wario? |
| wavedash101 | Posted 11/28/2006 11:56:27 AM | message detail |
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Ummm barely beating Dante? >_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/28/2006 12:32:23 PM | message detail |
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Man, if Luigi, Yoshi, and Bowser were in a fourpack next year that would be evil of CJay. And throw in Knuckles too. --- The following people caused me to lose to Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest: Yoshi, Snake, Vincent, KOS-MOS, Sub-Zero, Gordon Freeman... |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/28/2006 12:42:01 PM | message detail |
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Dante's x-stat based off Hayabusa 2K5: 34.12% Yoshi based off the above Dante: 34.50% Bowser's x-stat based off 2K5 Crono (and that's being generous): 33.84% Yep, that's the truth. We wouldn't know if Hayabusa dropped, or if Dante overperformed a bit on Hayabusa, or whatever. The math gives the Yoshi > Bowser possibility, though. Plus... what is Bowser's predicted percentage against Luigi? 52.49%. If Bowser and Luigi are so close together, and I don't see how Yoshi must be right inbetween them (though I think odds are that it IS the case). Of course, I wouldn't say it's impossible for Yoshi to be weaker than Luigi, either... --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 11/28/2006 12:46:44 PM | message detail |
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If he fluked in 2005, he fluked every match. Or just Snake & Ryu. And that's more their faults than anything Bowser did. I'd definitely consider Yoshi > Bowser though. In good ol' EC stats: Yoshi – 33.06 Bowser – 32.97, and that's with me feeling I may have underrated Yoshi a tad (I adjusted through Dante 2K5, even though I think Dante's stronger this year, although Yoshi/Snake rSFF is still possible, so it could really go either way). Seeing that Yoshi is the clear favorite over Bowser among the Mario fanbase as terms as favorites go, and I don't see how I can't pick Yoshi in that match. I wouldn't say Bowser has no shot, but I would take it and not look back. --- Portugal. The Man Rufus Shinra 777 violated me... he violated me all night long. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2006 11:06:47 PM | message detail |
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Nice work, CN. ~*ST*~ --- PWNED BY RUFUS SHINRA in the Guru contest! Congrats! Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FF5A, Castlevania: LoI |
| therealmnm | Posted 11/29/2006 1:23:15 PM | message detail |
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Bowser had nothing to prove this year, so he took this contest off. But
he would never let some chump like YOSHI actually beat him! Bowser will
ALWAYS best Luigi and Yoshi! He just needs something to prove! --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Devil May Cry, Mega Man ZX |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/29/2006 1:37:26 PM | message detail |
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The match with Kirby was a bit of a fluke, too, even if it was on Kirby's part. --- "They said you were dead." - Raiden "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do." - Solid Snake |
| Osfan | Posted 11/29/2006 2:03:08 PM | message detail |
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Havent been here in a while been playing the wii... ;-) anyway yeah
Bowser would thrash Yoshi for no other reason then he's Bowser, ;-)
also I havent played too much TP but Midna is pretty high on my charts
for annoying characters... Navi 2.0 might be giving here too mcuh
credit your forced to talk to Midna.... --- Lets just say Rufus Shinra did it with his magic to win the 2006 guru contest... |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 11/29/2006 8:47:52 PM | message detail |
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creative's 44% seemed a little harsh, so in my adjusted stats for this
year I only bumped Tifa down to a 44.72%. Of course, this changed the
values for the 6 girls under her accordingly. The only other adjustment
I made was to our friend Jay Solano... (For a good time, try pitting
adjusted Solano against his Raw self from this year.) And with that, the 2006 x-stats are complete! http://thengamer.com/xstats --- thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/29/2006 8:54:43 PM | message detail |
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Jay Solano (2006c raw) VS Jay Solano (2006c) Jay Solano has a strength of 58.49. Jay Solano has a strength of 2.76. Jay Solano wins with 97.64% of the vote! A win of 3,499 with 3,672 total votes cast. --- Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/29/2006 8:56:31 PM | message detail |
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Jay Solano (2006c) VS Tanner (2004c raw) Jay Solano has a strength of 2.76. Tanner has a strength of 3.39. Tanner wins with 59.29% of the vote! A win of 8,954 with 48,183 total votes cast. --- Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/29/2006 10:06:43 PM | message detail |
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Hm, interesting Poll of the Day today. It's good to see confirmation that Soma rSFF'd Snake. --- 11/18/06...the day I was owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest. |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/29/2006 10:20:58 PM | message detail |
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I just find something wrong with Zelda and Tifa being above Sonic this
year. Tifa may have had Kingdom Hearts II and Advent Children, but
Sonic beat her soundly last year, and it's plain as day that Sonic
boosted himself. I'd expect her to do better, but actually beat him? No
way. As for Zelda, has she ever been stronger than Ganon? She's above him last year, but they're right next to each other. And Sonic's definitely stronger than Ganon, so I wouldn't take her over Sonic anyway. As ridiculous as it sounds, I think Snake's boost may have been nullified when he found Samus, a Nintendo character. A lot of hype for him comes from SSBB, and considering Samus already has that fanbase, it's not that much of a surprise. --- The following people caused me to lose to Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest: Yoshi, Snake, Vincent, KOS-MOS, Sub-Zero, Gordon Freeman... |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/29/2006 11:26:06 PM | message detail |
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I don't mind Zelda being above Ganon at all, but I felt like Zelda
would do better against Samus than she should from the very beginning.
Now, there's no doubt Zelda has very legit strength, but I don't think
her legit strength is as high as what she showed against Samus either. --- Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/30/2006 9:29:37 AM | message detail |
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You know... if Snake underperformed on Samus, then obviously he would
do the same against Yoshi! Guess what? He underperformed on Yoshi!
Sure, blame the pic...your choice. And that also makes me wonder...IF
that were the case, would that mean Snake did the same on Mega Man?
Mega Man acts a lot like a Nintendo character, but he sure isn't one. --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/30/2006 9:57:02 AM | message detail |
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You know... if Snake underperformed on Samus, then obviously he
would do the same against Yoshi! Guess what? He underperformed on
Yoshi! Sure, blame the pic...your choice. And that also makes me
wonder...IF that were the case, would that mean Snake did the same on
Mega Man? Mega Man acts a lot like a Nintendo character, but he sure
isn't one. Don't forget, Sonic seemed to benefit from the Nintendo Boost in 2k5, and he did better than expected (SFF?) against Luigi. Adding to that, there was potential Konami SFF in Snake's match with Soma, and Playstation SFF in his match with Squall. If you're going to say that Snake underperformed against Samus, you can't trust any of his performances. Not every match has to be SFF. --- 11/18/06...the day I was owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/30/2006 10:00:19 AM | message detail |
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I've had that same line of thought Haste...and, in my mind and maybe in
my actual stats, I'm going to give Solid about 1% more credit against
both Samus and Yoshi (essentially leaving Yoshi's four-pack the same in
the stats, though every other male gets a lil' bit of a boost from it).
I've also thought about the thing with Mega Man...and, yes, Link SFF'd
Mega Man and Mega Man SFF'd Yoshi, and we know there's some overlap
with Mega Man and Nintendo...but I don't think it's enough for people
hyped about Solid Snake solely for SSBB to dominatingly support him
over Mega Man (and, if so, no more than it works against any other
character). VERY minimal, I feel, if at all. I'm gonna have a lil' fun with this year's stats since they're gonna be practically shot next year anyway (LoZ:TP, FF12, Wii, PS3, Tifa's division, probably get lots of our snubs back, random variation, etc.), so I'm gonna experiment a little bit with adjustments. When I finally do them, I'm going to try to adjust each match's result by up to 0.3% depending on the bracket-favorite, board support and rally-capability, and anti-votes. It shouldn't end up making a big difference in the stats as far as characters who don't REALLY need adjusting go, but since many of us consider such things and the stats already factor in how it helped/hurt characters last time, I'm going to just take that out and help prepare myself a bit more for next year, heh. Maybe it'll help, who knows, though, again, next year is simply going to be shot anyway..... --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 11/30/2006 10:13:21 AM | message detail |
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A few Peach related stats that were brought up pre-contest. Peach (2006c) VS Chun Li (2006c) Peach has a strength of 27.85. Chun Li has a strength of 27.61. Peach wins with 50.43% of the vote! A win of 1,028 with 119,317 total votes cast. Wins against Chun-Li Peach (2006c) VS Donkey Kong (2005c) Peach has a strength of 27.85. Donkey Kong has a strength of 30.38. Donkey Kong wins with 54.16% of the vote! A win of 9,069 with 108,894 total votes cast. Gets nearly 46% on an overrated DK. Peach (2006c) VS Rikku (2006c) Peach has a strength of 27.85. Rikku has a strength of 28.43. Rikku wins with 51.02% of the vote! A win of 2,497 with 122,377 total votes cast. Almost level with Rikku too. Thoughts? --- For every awesome RE supporting guy, there's always one ****ing FFVII guy to ruin it! I got SFFed by Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest! |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/30/2006 10:17:07 AM | message detail |
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Strangely, I only disagree with the one about Rikku. DK-2k5 is
over-rated in my mind, and Peach is too, so I don't mind that ratio so
much...and, though her BEATING Chun-Li is up for debate, I can't see
Peach falling to Lara Croft's level either -- she's at least close to
Chun-Li. No way I'll ever take Peach over Rikku though. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/30/2006 11:57:07 AM | message detail |
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I've already made a set of crazy x-stats (among many) adjusting Samus
all the way down to 39.xx% on BL, while Snake is at 43.xx%... yeah, it
assumes Zelda vs. Samus is actually accurate. The only problem is that
it basically means Samus overperformed against Snake by 8%, and that
Snake/Samus exposed Snake COMPLETELY down to his 2K5 level, which
doesn't make sense. Everything else is good, though. :( I know! I'll
just randomly adjust Samus up, and nothing else will go up with her! =P --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2006 1:40:37 PM | message detail |
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I don't mess with BL, like, ever -- I just work with Link at 50% and try to estimate with characters from years before. That said, methinks I'm going to have Samus in that area on this year's Link...and Mario too. I'm just debating whether there should be a noticable gap between them or not this year (Luigi/Yoshi/Peach all impressed in some fashion this year, and Bowser apparently was just over-rated last year). Still though, I'm not putting Solid over Samus in my stats -- whether he actually deserves it or not. I hate to admit hype is THAT important though obviously it was crucial for him to be as successful as he was this year. Also, though I know Sonic's increased since 2k4, Solid still fell considerably short on Samus's score against Sonic two years ago... ...yes, I know Mega Man beat Solid Snake with 57% two years ago too, but I'm being cautious with it, that's all. I'm gonna boost Solid some, just not above Samus. --- Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 11/30/2006 4:19:21 PM | message detail |
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Thoughts on Chunners/Peach? I want written apologies telling me how
awesome I am after taking all that crap on Peach not being able to come
close to Chunners, let alone beat her. --- Portugal. The Man Rufus Shinra 777 violated me... he violated me all night long. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2006 4:22:30 PM | message detail |
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You know that result requires Tifa being legit this year, right? --- Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me. |
