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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 434

LeonhartForever | Posted 12/30/2006 12:29:20 AM | message detail
I voted for the PS3 solely for the slim hope that MGS4 MAY be out by then...
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/30/2006 12:30:50 AM | message detail
Heh, and I bet everyone is voting for the last option today because of SUPER SMASH BROTHERS BRAWL!!!!

...Though I personally voted for it because of MGS4 even though it's technically impossible for a Metal Gear Solid game to be overhyped.
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"I'm only here to see how the story plays out. Any self-respecting leading man would do the same." - Balthier
HaRRicH | Posted 12/30/2006 12:33:57 AM | message detail
MGS4 will be great, whenever it's out...but man, the Wii has the PS3's ass stomped next year if it can avoid delays. SSBB > MGS4 = SMG > MP3 for me hype-wise next year as I anticipate all four alot...and I don't really care for anything else the PS3 provides that the 360 can't/won't.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/30/2006 12:35:05 AM | message detail
Metal Gear Solid 4 is the only thing the PS3 has going for it for a long time...

Okay, there's that Devil May Cry thing coming out, too, but nobody really cares about that!!
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ZFS | Posted 12/30/2006 12:53:10 AM | message detail
Super Mario Galaxy rocks everything else released next year.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/31/2006 1:18:48 AM | message detail
I'm all for that, especially if the other games are as good as I hope they will be.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/31/2006 12:20:27 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/31/2006 2:50:17 PM | message detail
So...GotY-predictions?


PSP: GTA:VCS
DS: NSMB
GC: LoZ:TP
PS2: KH2
360: Oblivion
Wii: LoZ:TP
PS3: Resistance
Multi: I have no idea, so I'll just say Madden does better than usual this year
Overall: KH2
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/31/2006 2:55:37 PM | message detail
I should add that KH2 wins if FF12 isn't in the final poll with it. If we follow the usual format where it's lots of games that did well then is cut down to the top-performing three games, KH2 will get 2nd or even 3rd to LoZ:TP/Oblivion thanks to FF12, then slam it home in the final GotY poll. However, if FF12 follows it every step of the way...give me LoZ:TP.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/31/2006 3:37:21 PM | message detail
KH2 stands no chance at getting PS2 GotY, let alone overall. I could see Okami or even Guitar Hero 2 giving it a run for its money in the PS2 poll, and Oblivion will defeat it in the overall poll.

PSP: MGS: PO. VCS flopped too hard to stand a chance.
DS: NSMB
GC: LoZ:TP
PS2: FFXII
360: Oblivion
PC: Oblivion
Wii: LoZ:TP
PS3: Resistance
Multi: Uh...Lego Star Wars II? GRAW/TP/Oblivion, if they count?
Overall: LoZ: TP, though FFXII has a great shot.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 12/31/2006 3:41:05 PM | message detail
Why can't KHII win for PS2?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2316


I'd be willing to bet KHII was more well received overall.


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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/31/2006 3:42:44 PM | message detail
Uh, that poll's from right before KH2 came out. Of course the hype for it was at a greater level then than it was for FFXII.

Anyway, FFXII's been a lot bigger on GameFAQs than KH2 has been. KH2 barely beat Oblivion in the GotY so far poll.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/31/2006 3:43:14 PM | message detail
I can't see Okami or even GH2 approaching KH2, and it seemed to me that not only was KH2 more anticipated this year but also better received than FF12. I'm certain it's sold more, too. Furthermore, Oblivion beating it isn't happening since KH2 beat it nicely earlier this year in a GotY-so-far poll.
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 4:18:48 PM | message detail
I'm certain it's sold more, too

With the December NPD coming out next week, I'd be willing to wager that Final Fantasy XII is already ahead of Kingdom Hearts II.

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therealmnm | Posted 12/31/2006 4:33:38 PM | message detail
Uhhhh, why is it automatically assumed that Oblivion is beating Gears of War out?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/31/2006 7:49:56 PM | message detail
Uhhhh, why is it automatically assumed that Oblivion is beating Gears of War out?

Because it was released on two systems, sold more (depending on how well GeoW did in December), was an RPG, did much better on the FAQs lists, and nearly beat KH2 on the GotY poll.

Furthermore, Oblivion beating it isn't happening since KH2 beat it nicely earlier this year in a GotY-so-far poll.

Ever heard of SFF?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:40:13 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy III for the upset!
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/31/2006 10:43:14 PM | message detail
I'll admit, FF3 is doing alot better against NSMB than I would have thought...

woo close match
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 10:43:46 PM | message detail
The Return of SquareFAQs !!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:44:21 PM | message detail
If FFIII is doing so well, imagine how well FFXII will do!

FFXII > TP for the win!
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 10:46:42 PM | message detail
If such a thing did happen, I think we could all rest easy knowing it was thanks to Balthier!

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 12/31/2006 10:47:03 PM | message detail
How is PoR not dominating?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:48:37 PM | message detail
Well, he IS the leading man. Ashe is a worthy counterpart, too. Roar.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:49:29 PM | message detail
It's a back and forth slobberknocker!
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 10:49:40 PM | message detail
Ashe is a fine second-in-command, no doubt.

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 12/31/2006 10:50:02 PM | message detail
While we're on the topic of FFXII, is it supposed to be really crappy after the initial tutorial? I'm only up to the part where I have to go talk to the nomads but I'm already bored.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:51:41 PM | message detail
Ashe is fine in more ways than one, my friend, and you'll be pleased to know that she's voiced by Ms. Raine Sage herself!

And it takes FFXII a while to get going, especially with the battle system. You actually have to get a variety of Gambits (and get into a tough battle) before the fights get interesting.
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 10:54:01 PM | message detail
Ashe is fine in more ways than one, my friend, and you'll be pleased to know that she's voiced by Ms. Raine Sage herself!

...Aw, are you serious?

Does she at least sound different from Raine?

Because I don't want images of Raine popping into my head when I listen to Ashe speak !!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:55:26 PM | message detail
You can definitely tell it's the same person, but Rainedrops don't keep popping up in my head whenever I hear it.

...I'm going to go kill myself after such a terrible pun.
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/31/2006 10:56:38 PM | message detail
I thought that was a stroke of genis.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 10:58:31 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfAWBv_kPFA

You can hear her voice in that clip and tell for yourself.
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 11:01:30 PM | message detail
That was pretty bad.


And that voice acting doesn't sound too similar, although you can tell it's her. Perhaps it's because there is some emotion there!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:02:52 PM | message detail
Plus, Ashe's inherent cuteness overshadows such things!

Still, Balthier is the best character in the game, easily. Ashe is second for me.
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 11:11:15 PM | message detail
Those are about my expectations heading in.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:13:24 PM | message detail
Out of the main party, Basch is the only other worthwhile one. Vaan is bleh, and Fran reminds me a lot of Freya: Somebody who could've been better if Square had bothered to put more time into her.

As far as Penelo is concerned, somebody summed her up as such and I learned it was no exaggeration: She's the most worthless FF character since Umaro.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 12/31/2006 11:18:04 PM | message detail
She's the most worthless FF character since Umaro.


I warned you~!



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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:18:38 PM | message detail
I really didn't think anyone could be THAT worthless. I thought for sure it was an exaggeration!
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 12/31/2006 11:19:41 PM | message detail
At least with Umaro you can leave him behind on the ship or not get him altogether




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Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:21:22 PM | message detail
That's very true, but at least Penelo is cute. However, I have learned that she DOES serve a purpose in cutscenes: To be an annoying distraction with Vaan away from the main conversation!

I never imagined I would learn all there is to know about Penelo from reading the instruction booklet:

"Vaan's friend."
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 11:21:40 PM | message detail
Comparable to Umaro? Ouch. That's bad.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:22:48 PM | message detail
And if you consider Vaan to be the main lead, I would probably consider him the worst of the bunch from FFIV and on (not counting FFTA, of course).
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ZFS | Posted 12/31/2006 11:25:17 PM | message detail
Vaan? The lead? The hero?

Not while Balthier is around!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 12/31/2006 11:27:22 PM | message detail
Well, in towns and such, Vaan is the one you control, and certain things in the game try to make it seem like he's the lead. However, he's not a compelling character at all, has very little development, and he suffers from the Tidus Syndrome (constantly asking questions because he doesn't understand anything about the world around him). But at least Tidus had an excuse: He actually wasn't from Spira!
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 12/31/2006 11:33:05 PM | message detail
If I had to pick a lead, I'd actually choose Ashe. But FFXII seems to be a bit ensemble like FFVI.


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Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
charmander6000 | Posted 12/31/2006 11:48:25 PM | message detail
Rank the FFXII characters in terms of contest strength

Balthier > Ashe > Vaan > the rest, which I don't see coming into the contest.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 12/31/2006 11:54:02 PM | message detail
Balthier > Ashe >= Vann, but I really can't see any of them being stronger than Vivi.


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Let the snow fall deep, the rain drive down, and the wind buffet my cloak. I care not for I've a road worth walking ~ Drizzt Do'Urden
therealmnm | Posted 1/1/2007 12:06:37 AM | message detail
Final Fantasy III for the upset!

In addition to people automatically counting out Gears of War and thinking that Oblivion is automatically Xbox 360 GotY, I was going to point out that NSMB really wasn't that great and FFIII could give it a run for its money if enough people bought and liked it. Hell, Castlevania PoR SHOULD be the DS GotY hands down if more people actually played the handheld Castlevanias... But yeah, NSMB definitely was beatable as being GotY. FFIII doing this well isn't surprising at all.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/1/2007 12:11:13 AM | message detail
Balthier > Vann > the rest (none will make it)

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2007 12:13:29 AM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/1/2007 12:14:06 AM | message detail
And GoW > Oblivion if only because of recency.

Same reason why FF3 is doing so good. If FF3 and NSMB switched release dates, NSMB would be dominating right now.

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