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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 433

SquallidSnake | Posted 11/20/2006 9:20:42 AM | message detail
Snake/Sonic was the fluke, because Sonic must be as strong as possible!
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Lady Ashe | Posted 11/20/2006 9:22:30 AM | message detail
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neonreaper | Posted 11/20/2006 9:23:17 AM | message detail
Solano cruising albeit a close battle
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If it ain't broke, break it!
The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/20/2006 9:23:29 AM | message detail
Did this poll start early or something? We're geting some great votals!
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ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand.
Lady Ashe | Posted 11/20/2006 9:24:32 AM | message detail
Snake/Smaus was the fluke.
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Larsa > Balthier > Basch > Fran > Vaan > Vayne > Penelo > Montblanc > The Dungeon Seeqs > Ashe
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2006 10:51:34 AM | message detail
Wow we're looking at 149k here.
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Congratulations to Rufus Shinra for winning the Guru Contest.
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/20/2006 12:57:13 PM | message detail
Hot x-stats update!

http://thengamer.com/xstats/

Link has been adjusted based on a constant Cloud. Jay Solano has been adjusted based on his performance against Link. Throw him into some matchups, and then begin to fear his wrath.

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thengamer.com/xstats = lol x-stats
Still smarting from the beatdown Rufus applied in the Guru Contest!
Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/20/2006 1:05:45 PM | message detail
Jay Solano 87.26% 14,876
CATS 12.74% 2,171
TOTAL VOTES 17,047


Heh. It would have been interesting to see how good Jay would do against Cats, King of All Cosmos, or Phoenix Wright in a board 8 exclusive poll.
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Rufus Shinra 18 had Luigi over Sonic and he still PWND me in the guru contest.
TRE Public Account | Posted 11/20/2006 1:08:25 PM | message detail
Why hasn't this been done yet?

Jay Solano (2006c) VS Tanner (2004c raw)

Jay Solano has a strength of 58.49.
Tanner has a strength of 3.39.

Jay Solano wins with 97.10% of the vote!
A win of 5,509 with 5,848 total votes cast.

=D
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FFDragon | Posted 11/20/2006 2:13:41 PM | message detail
So, in essence, Jay went and did the exact opposite of what he was supposed to. Instead of being a Neo-Tanner, he is actually the ultimate Tanner crusher!

Don't you see? This was Jay's plan all along! He lured us into a false sense of security, got us to get him into a poll and then BAM! he takes the contest by the throat and shatters the Noble Nine.

WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS COMING!? DAMN YOU SOLANO!
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Rufus: What a crew. Well, I'm Rufus Shinra. The Guru of Board 8. (Metal Gear Solid 2)
HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2006 2:22:59 PM | message detail
Not since Mario/Cloud has somebody outside of themselves defeated Clinkeroth.
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Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me.
Kaxon | Posted 11/20/2006 2:33:01 PM | message detail
Clinkeroth? More like Clinkerano! Or maybe Jay Clink? Hmm...
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....TCELES B HSUP
Owned by Rufus Shinra 18 in the Summer 2006 Guru Contest
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/20/2006 2:34:07 PM | message detail
This makes me realize that Sephiroth is the only member of Clinkeroth that has not lost a match outside of Clinkeroth.

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Jay Solano vs. Sephiroth!

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I suppose people like IX because it was most similar to their favorite cartoon, Dragon Ball Z.- poupadis
therealmnm | Posted 11/20/2006 2:58:23 PM | message detail
Bored much? I can't believe how seriously some of you guys are taking the Link/Solano match... :-P

Let's look at the first set: Ryu and Kratos look too strong...Ryu barely outdid Alucard on Kratos (yes, Kratos boosted, but that much?), yet Alucard was destroyed by Auron and was beaten by Sora the previous year...in fact, Kratos is expected to beat Alucard with 55.35% using raw x-stats. I could see Kratos winning there, but... not by that much. You can make a case for Freeman-linearity, but Gordon & Phoenix being lower doesn't hurt.


I'll take up for Kratos again. Why exactly can't he be that strong? God of War is still doing well in sales (I just bought my copy this month!). The game had only been out 3-4 months before SC2k5. It's certainly possible that Kratos 2k5 simply hadn't reached the full potential of his popularity since his game was still selling. Again, I compare him to Dante 2k2. I think God of War was much more popular as a game than Devil May Cry was after a year. Devil May Cry was overshadowed that year by blockbuster hits in MGS2, FFX, and GTA3. God of War got to be in the spotlight in a relatively slow year while having the benefit of a bigger PS2 fanbase, as well as the added GameFAQs traffic as compared to 2k2. Again, if Dante can still bust out as a solid midcarder while being a brand new character, I see no reason why it couldn't be possible for Kratos to be slightly stronger than that after his first year... Just my thoughts on him.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/20/2006 2:59:36 PM | message detail
it's Jay Clinkerothano, fools!
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RUFUS SHINRA 18 > ME
...let's just say his Guru skills are better than his username.
FFDragon | Posted 11/20/2006 2:59:55 PM | message detail
Bored much? I can't believe how seriously some of you guys are taking the Link/Solano match... :-P

Isolated or not, it was still a match held under the banner of Character Battle V, so that's good enough for me. Noble Nine = Shattered IMHO.
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Rufus: What a crew. Well, I'm Rufus Shinra. The Guru of Board 8. (Metal Gear Solid 2)
Master Moltar | Posted 11/20/2006 3:03:02 PM | message detail
Jay would have tore Sephiorth up if he was in a board only poll.

Heck, alot of characters would. Go Go Sephiroth's B8 fans!
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Moltar Status: Rocked by Rufus Shinra in bracketmaking.
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therealmnm | Posted 11/20/2006 3:05:45 PM | message detail
Okay. It's still pretty much a board thing and you know it though. Fool yourself into taking it as totally legit if you want! :-P I'm just stated that I myself don't care much either way. It could have been a poll with Knuckles beating Sephiroth 99%-1% and I still wouldn't care as much as you guys do. Just call me grumpy old man if you want...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/20/2006 3:08:28 PM | message detail
Also, I don't get why we're saying that Snake fluked in any of his matches. All the character in the Male bracket that boosted had reason too.

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I suppose people like IX because it was most similar to their favorite cartoon, Dragon Ball Z.- poupadis
PortugalTheMann | Posted 11/20/2006 3:08:37 PM | message detail
what ever gramps
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Rufus Shinra 777 violated me... he violated me all night long.
o4o22oo4 | Posted 11/20/2006 3:22:17 PM | message detail
Instead of saying either of the matches were vastly off-target, why not just surmise that Snake's boost was largely a Nintendo boost, so his boost was at least partially (though not totally, given that he still performed better on Samus than 2K4 or 2K5 data would have surmised) eradicated against Nintendo characters?

That explains why Snake overperformed on non-Nintendo characters (the boost against non-Nintendo characters was legitimate), while his numbers against Yoshi were only slightly more impressive than his numbers against Bowser, and his numbers against Samus weren't all that better than 2K5 data would imply; against the Nintendo characters the boost was minimalized.

I still think a small amount of Snake's boost, BTW, is coming from MGS4 hype; I don't think all 100% of the boost is from the 2 minute trailer alone. But the 2 minute trailer may have provided a majority of the boost, and those Nintendo fans may just feel inclined to drop their votes for Snake when Snake actually faces Nintendo characters. Meaning our "new Snake" will now perform very well on Sonic, Crono and Mega Man, but still lose with "old Snake" percentages against the likes of Mario and Samus.

He'll still beat powerful upper-rank supporting Nintendo characters, of course (the likes of Bowser and Yoshi) because he did that with his own independent fanbase even before the SSBB trailer.

As for Snake/Squall, I don't think that match was entirely off-kilter. I actually think Squall might legitimately be that strong. he's grown in strength every year, largely paralleling Sora's growth, though Squall also has the benefit of an FF8 fanbase. But a lot of Squall's new popularity is stemming from KH and KH2 love; Squall has the biggest role of all the Square cameos in both games.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/20/2006 3:31:38 PM | message detail
This makes me realize that Sephiroth is the only member of Clinkeroth that has not lost a match outside of Clinkeroth.

Solid Snake beat Sephiroth just a few days ago!!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/20/2006 4:11:01 PM | message detail
Solid Snake beat Sephiroth just a few days ago!!

Wow, forgot all about that. Clinkeroth=broken

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I suppose people like IX because it was most similar to their favorite cartoon, Dragon Ball Z.- poupadis
HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2006 5:56:06 PM | message detail
Yeah...so, wait, now is it the entire Noble Nine or just Clinkeroth that's broken? 'Cuz we could drop Mega Man or Crono for Solano now.....
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Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/20/2006 5:58:38 PM | message detail
It's OVER.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/20/2006 7:10:36 PM | message detail
Yeah...so, wait, now is it the entire Noble Nine or just Clinkeroth that's broken? 'Cuz we could drop Mega Man or Crono for Solano now.....

You can't drop anyone... Mega Man has beaten Snake and Sonic. Crono has beaten Mario and Mega Man. However, it could be the Noble Ten, considering that Jay's never lost to anyone.

(Or, you know, considering that the match was a joke...)
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Owned by Rufus Shinra 18 in the Summer 2006 Guru Contest
trannyscience | Posted 11/20/2006 7:11:55 PM | message detail
Elite Eight plus Crono? more like Noble Nine plus Jay Solano!

...?
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RUFUS SHINRA 18 > ME
...let's just say his Guru skills are better than his username.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/20/2006 7:12:20 PM | message detail
Clinkeroth = borken lol

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PWNED BY RUFUS SHINRA in the Guru contest! Congrats!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/20/2006 7:18:09 PM | message detail
Again, I compare him to Dante 2k2. I think God of War was much more popular as a game than Devil May Cry was after a year.

GoW crushed DMC in sales...Ulti-style, 1.2M to 1M.
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11/18/06...the day I was owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest.
Big Bob | Posted 11/20/2006 7:47:44 PM | message detail
Rank the following in supposed contest strength:

MetaKnight
Pit
Epona
Raiden
Nightmare
Balthier
Yuffie
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The following people caused me to lose to Rufus Shinra in the Guru contest: Yoshi, Snake, Vincent, KOS-MOS, Sub-Zero, Gordon Freeman...
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/20/2006 8:39:47 PM | message detail
creative, you haven't archived the Link/Solano match pic? Stop being lazy! :(

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/20/2006 8:41:37 PM | message detail
From: Big Bob | Posted: 11/20/2006 7:47:44 PM
Rank the following in supposed contest strength:

MetaKnight
Pit
Epona
Raiden
Nightmare
Balthier
Yuffie



Balthier > Yuffie > Raiden > MetaKnight >= Nightmare > Pit > Epona


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Rufus Shinra won the Guru Contest. I didn't. Rufus > Kleenex.
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/20/2006 8:43:56 PM | message detail
Now? Yuffie > Epona >= Balthier > Metaknight >= Raiden > Nightmare > Pit.

Pit probably goes ahead of Nightmare after SSBB.
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Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Rufus Shinra 18 decides everything.
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/20/2006 8:44:05 PM | message detail
Balthier > Yuffie > Meta-Knight > Raiden > Nightmare > Epona > Pit

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Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth:
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/20/2006 8:48:24 PM | message detail
Yuffie > Epona > Balthier > Raiden > Meta-Knight > Nightmare > Pit

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"Crazy HM....Link wouldn't even break 36% if Cloud was replaced by Crash Bandicoot. Then again, you did expect Ganondorf to beat Sonic." - Dp
H__RR____H | Posted 11/21/2006 10:00:38 AM | message detail
Yuffie > Balthier > Raiden > Epona > Nightmare > Pit > Meta-Knight

I suspect Pit and MK with both match or beat Nightmare after SSBB though.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/21/2006 10:01:34 AM | message detail
Pit...beat Meta-Knight? Are you crazy? Pit would perform like Pitfall Harry without Brawl.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/21/2006 10:02:37 AM | message detail
Balthier > Raiden > Yuffie > Meta-Knight > Epona > Pit

Sorry, folks. Yuffie may be FFVII, but she's not well-liked enough to top this list.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/21/2006 10:03:05 AM | message detail
Oh, throw Nightmare in there in front of Epona. Knew it felt like I was forgetting somebody.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/21/2006 10:23:36 AM | message detail
Meanwhile, we know Kirby's games-fanbase isn't big either, and I think this Meta-Knight love has been blown out of proportion big time. Add in what struck me as more hype for Pit in SSBB than Meta-Knight and I think more people played KI after their announcements than whatever Kirby game(s) Meta-Knight was in, and I'll stick with that pick.

It's be close though, but I never thought Meta-Knight would amount to much before we heard of this SSBB trailer. Kirby had name-sake of his series, and he was big in SSB/M...while Meta-Knight isn't much more than what a Robot Master is to the Mega Man series, as I remember it. I don't even think I knew his name until Board 8 made a big deal out of him awhile back. I would probably take King DeDeDe over Pit, but not Meta-Knight.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/21/2006 10:51:12 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why people are putting MK ahead of anyone but Pit. After seeing what Kirby managed in the Series contest, I'm really not confident in any non-SSB Kirby characters doing well at all.
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11/18/06...the day I was owned by Rufus Shinra in the Guru Contest.
dethfdddddh | Posted 11/21/2006 12:03:48 PM | message detail
How the HELL is FF XII ahead of TP on the FAQS?
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Rufus Shinra had Darknation eat me for lunch in the Guru contest.
wavedash101 | Posted 11/21/2006 12:06:19 PM | message detail
Cause its FF and its been out for a while...

DUH
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/21/2006 12:10:39 PM | message detail
...But it's Pit. This is the equivalent of the Ice Climbers or Game & Watch. This is going to be a one time old school appearance. Kid Icarus wasn't ever that popular, not to mention just how old the game is. I don't care how much Kirby's series bombed in the contest. It'd still own Kid Icarus nine ways from Sunday.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/21/2006 12:11:41 PM | message detail
And the reason you probably heard more hype for Pit than Meta-Knight because people were halfway expecting Meta-Knight to be in this game before the trailer was ever shown.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/21/2006 12:12:21 PM | message detail
Balthier>Raiden>Yuffie>Epona>Nightmare>Metaknight>Pit

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VOTE FOR JAY SOLANO
Of, and Rufus Shinra>me and stuff.
the jp | Posted 11/21/2006 12:14:04 PM | message detail
Putting Solano in the XStats is a really dumb thing to do considering it was a board 8 only poll.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/21/2006 12:37:33 PM | message detail
How the HELL is FF XII ahead of TP on the FAQS?

Because right now there are way more people who own PS2s that Wiis?
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Rufus Shinra is a better guru that me and Mel Gibson combined. Congrats!
PortugalTheMann | Posted 11/21/2006 12:55:50 PM | message detail
Putting Solano in the XStats is a really dumb thing to do considering it was a board 8 only poll.

Eating 18 pounds of lard per day is a really dumb thing to do considering you're morbidly obese.

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Rufus Shinra 777 violated me... he violated me all night long.
HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2006 2:21:53 PM | message detail
Oh, so you're not going to take the match seriously just because of the vote totals? Look back at 2k2 -- despite their vote totals, people take them VERY seriously today!!!

Tina > Gordon lives on.
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Rufus Shinra: like a true Guru should, he owned me.