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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 432

creativename | Posted 11/16/2006 9:17:38 PM | message detail
creative, what makes you so sure it wasn't cheating?

It was cheating, beyond all question.

I was saying that Snake was only down by 2, he could have won legitimately. But we'll have to live with this BS instead. Oh well.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/16/2006 9:18:24 PM | message detail
17.82% had Sephy there.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/16/2006 9:18:49 PM | message detail
It was cheating, beyond all question.

I was saying that Snake was only down by 2, he could have won legitimately. But we'll have to live with this BS instead. Oh well.


Okay, but that doesn't answer the question of how you know.

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Mister Mario | Posted 11/16/2006 9:18:54 PM | message detail
That wasn't necessarily cheating. Could have been rallying. But then again, I'm a trusting man.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/16/2006 9:19:29 PM | message detail
To me that was a pretty clear case of rallying on both sides. The difference was, because B8 favored Snake so heavily, they were smart enough to make their largest push in the last five minutes.

And yeah, the huge early vote total here combined with Snake's shockingly strong start certainly speaks to that interpretation.

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RayDyn | Posted 11/16/2006 9:19:30 PM | message detail
I wish either had lost by only 1 vote. But instead it was 56 votes difference
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Shoeringan | Posted 11/16/2006 9:20:45 PM | message detail
*Dances on Sephy's grave*

HUZZAH!
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/16/2006 9:21:00 PM | message detail
Jesus Christ, Jakyl still hasn't missed a beat. At this point, I think it's safe to say he'll win the contest.
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creativename | Posted 11/16/2006 9:21:14 PM | message detail
Okay, but that doesn't answer the question of how you know.

Are you serious? You'd have to have blinders on to not know. The guy swung 50 votes in 5 minutes.

You can use the 'rallying' euphemism if you want, but that doesn't change the obvious.

Whatever, new match now.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:21:39 PM | message detail
Heh, either Snake is ironically benefitting quite a bit from Sephiroth's former voters, or there are just a lot of leftover Snake supporters from the last match
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xp1337 | Posted 11/16/2006 9:21:48 PM | message detail
Hmm, guess I had Snake losing last round after all.

But I don't care about points, that ending was just insane.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:21:58 PM | message detail
Snake took a lot of Seph voters, it seems. Anyone else got a sneaking suspicion Cloud is going to take a whole hell of a lot of Snake votes when he goes? This could be the closest CvL match since 2k3.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/16/2006 9:22:47 PM | message detail
All Time Most Popular Polls

01. 159347 - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Sephiroth vs Solid Snake vs Mario vs Samus Aran (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 1)
02. 158527 - (1) The Legend of Zelda vs (1) Final Fantasy (2006 Series Final)
03. 157773 - (1) Final Fantasy vs (1) Super Mario Bros. (2006 Series Semfinal)
04. 147637 - (1) Cloud Strife vs (1) Link (2003 Characters Semifinal)
05. 144128 - (1) Samus Aran vs (1) Tifa Lockhart (2006 Characters Quarterfinal)
06. 141969 - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Sephiroth vs Solid Snake vs Mario (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 2)
07. 137961 - (1) Solid Snake vs (1) Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 Characters Semifinal)
08. 137513 - (1) Metal Gear vs (2) Kingdom Hearts (2006 Series Quarterfinal)
09. 136154 - (1) Final Fantasy vs (2) Resident Evil (2006 Series Quarterfinal)
10. 135980 - (1) Solid Snake vs (4) Squall Leonhart (2006 Characters Round 2)
11. 135562 - (1) Final Fantasy vs (4) Mega Man (2006 Series Sweet Sixteen)
12. 135555 - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Solid Snake vs Sephiroth (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 3)
13. 135217 - (1) Princess Zelda vs (1) Yuna (2006 Characters Quarterfinal)
14. 134604 - (1) The Legend of Zelda vs (2) Metroid (2006 Series Sweet Sixteen)
15. 134577 - (3) Auron vs (7) Sub-Zero (2006 Characters Round 2)
16. 133797 - (2) Mega Man vs (1) Sora (2006 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
17. 133005 - (1) Mario vs (4) Crono (2003 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
18. 132410 - (1) The Legend of Zelda vs (1) Metal Gear (2006 Series Semifinal)
19. 132251 - (1) Sonic the Hedgehog vs (2) Luigi (2006 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
20. 131875 - (1) Samus Aran vs (2) Princess Zelda (2006 Characters Semifinal)
21. 130058 - (2) Luigi vs (7) Zero (2006 Characters Round 1)
22. 129977 - (1) The Legend of Zelda vs (5) Mega Man X (2006 Series Sweet Sixteen)
23. 129703 - (1) Mario vs (2) Cloud Strife (2002 Characters Quarterfinal)
24. 129569 - (6) Yoshi vs (2) Dante (2006 Characters Round 2)
25. 129537 - (3) Rikku vs (2) Kairi (2006 Characters Round 2)

2002 Characters - 1
2003 Characters - 2
2004 Games - 0
2004 Characters - 0
2005 Villains - 0
2005 Characters - 0
2006 Series - 8
2006 Characters - 14
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:22:59 PM | message detail
I've got a sneaking suspicion that Cloud is going to take a slight majority of Snake's votes with the rest going to Link and with Link winning like normal.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/16/2006 9:23:20 PM | message detail
All Time Closest Matches By Vote Difference

01. 0007 - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief (2004 Characters Round 2)
02. 0027 - (2) Princess Peach vs (3) Jill Valentine (2006 Characters Round 2)
02. 0027 - (3) Ryu Hayabusa vs (14) Jill Valentine (2004 Characters Round 1)
04. 0034 - (5) Samus Aran vs (1) Sonic the Hedgehog (2002 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
05. 0038 - (4) Metal Gear Solid vs (5) Final Fantasy Tactics (2004 Games Round 2)
06. 0056 - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Solid Snake vs Sephiroth (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 3)
07. 0093 - (6) Frog vs (11) Liquid Snake (2004 Characters Round 1)
08. 0115 - (1) Mario vs (5) Crono (2002 Characters Semifinal)
09. 0137 - (1) Mario vs (4) Crono (2003 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
10. 0143 - (6) Donkey Kong vs (11) Duck Hunt (2004 Games Round 1)
11. 0171 - (16) StarCraft vs (5) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2004 Games Sweet Sixteen)
12. 0277 - (1) Mario vs (2) Cloud Strife (2002 Characters)
13. 0362 - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (6) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
14. 0373 - (16) StarCraft vs (1) Halo (2004 Games Round 1)
15. 0534 - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (16) StarCraft (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
16. 0650 - (13) Magus vs (12) Ganondorf (2003 Characters Round 2)
17. 0742 - (1) Mega Man vs (1) Sonic the Hedgehog (2005 Characters Quarterfinal)
18. 0968 - (3) Tommy Vercetti vs (6) Donkey Kong (2003 Characters Round 2)
19. 0987 - (7) Sephiroth vs (6) Mega Man (2002 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
20. 1088 - (9) Kingdom Hearts vs (8) Soul Calibur (2004 Games Round 1)
21. 1116 - (5) WarCraft vs (4) Grand Theft Auto (2006 Series Round 1)
22. 1149 - (5) Vincent Valentine vs (2) Squall Leonhart (2005 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
23. 1196 - (1) Solid Snake vs (3) Bowser (2005 Characters Quarterfinal)
24. 1320 - (4) Donkey Kong vs (12) Aya Brea (2002 Characters Round 2)
25. 1418 - (1) Samus Aran vs (1) Tifa Lockhart (2006 Characters Quarterfinal)

2002 Characters - 5
2003 Characters - 3
2004 Games - 7
2004 Characters - 3
2005 Villains - 0
2005 Characters - 3
2006 Series - 1
2006 Characters - 3
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Mister Mario | Posted 11/16/2006 9:23:31 PM | message detail
And you can go on hoping that happens. Link will beat him by more than he did last time, and last time was Clouds biggest beating ever.
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/16/2006 9:23:45 PM | message detail
Snake seems to be taking votes from everyone. I doubt they all just go to Cloud.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/16/2006 9:24:00 PM | message detail
All Time Lowest Prediction Percentages:

01. 06.00% - (1) Cloud Strife vs (2) Sephiroth (2003 Characters Final)
02. 07.16% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (16) StarCraft (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
03. 07.91% - (16) StarCraft vs (5) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2004 Games Sweet Sixteen)
04. 09.96% - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Sephiroth vs Solid Snake vs Mario (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 2)
05. 12.47% - (5) Vincent Valentine vs (2) Squall Leonhart (2005 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
06. 12.54% - (1) Samus Aran vs (1) Solid Snake (2006 Characters Final)
07. 12.80% - (2) Link vs (1) Mario (2002 Characters Final)
08. 13.31% - (1) Sonic the Hedgehog vs (1) Crono (2006 Characters Quarterfinal)
09. 13.40% - (1) Cloud Strife vs (1) Link (2003 Characters Semifinal)
10. 14.18% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (3) Final Fantasy X (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
11. 14.50% - (2) Mega Man vs (1) Solid Snake (2003 Characters Quartefinal)
12. 14.60% - (5) Crono vs (2) Solid Snake (2002 Characters Quarterfinal)
13. 14.76% - (7) Diablo vs (1) Kefka (2005 Villains Quarterfinal)
14. 15.62% - (16) StarCraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts (2004 Games Round 2)
15. 17.30% - (5) Scorpion vs (1) Pac-Man (2002 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
16. 17.83% - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Solid Snake vs Sephiroth (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 3)
17. 20.27% - (7) Sub-Zero vs (2) Master Chief (2006 Characters Round 1)
18. 21.70% - (2) Sephiroth vs (2) Mega Man (2003 Characters Semifinal)
19. 22.03% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (7) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (2004 Games Round 2)
20. 22.56% - (6) Frog vs (3) Master Chief (2004 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
21. 24.09% - (16) StarCraft vs (1) Halo (2004 Games Round 1)
22. 24.20% - (13) Magus vs (12) Ganondorf (2003 Characters Round 2)
23. 24.49% - (2) Crono vs (1) Mega Man (2005 Characters Semifinal)
24. 24.63% - (1) Chrono Trigger vs (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 (2004 Games Semifinal)
25. 25.14% - (5) Vincent Valentine vs (1) Dante (2005 Characters Round 2)

2002 Characters: 3
2003 Characters: 5
2004 Games: 7
2004 Characters: 1
2005 Villains: 1
2005 Characters: 3
2006 Series: 0
2006 Characters: 5

Hey, this match made all three lists that I'm tracking!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2006 9:24:01 PM | message detail
XD at Ceej

Three characters enter. Two characters leave. Which two will fight in the final round??

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Okay, it's Link and Cloud, barring a massive upset.



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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/16/2006 9:24:16 PM | message detail
Well I can tell you for a fact that alt-voting (not from me, for the record) got about 50 votes in for Seph in those last 5 minutes. And they weren't counted in the final total, because Ceej fixed that method ages ago.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:25:40 PM | message detail
You people seriously think Snake fans like Link more than Cloud? Just look at how many Seph voters went to Snake (though his % will drop all day...) today. He beenefitted much more from the demise of Sephiroth than Samus and Mario for a reason, and he stands to give a lot more to Cloud than Link for that same reason.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:26:21 PM | message detail
The elimination of Samus and Mario benefitted Snake by about 14% each, and the elimination of Sephiroth so far seems to be benefitting him by about 30%.

I'm not really sure how to take that. Though Snake may drop off a little bit later
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2006 9:26:37 PM | message detail
You people seriously think Snake fans like Link more than Cloud?

I do!

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transience | Posted 11/16/2006 9:26:56 PM | message detail
huh, wow. my internet picked the WORST time to go out there.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:28:00 PM | message detail
You people seriously think Snake fans like Link more than Cloud?

You certainly have a lot of people who have voted for Snake up until now saying they'll give their votes to Link when he goes. Cloud will take a majority of them, sure, but a majority of them hasn't been enough for the past three days of the Battle Royale. He's not going to take some absurd majority or anything either. It'll split down the middle and favor Cloud by a bit, I would imagine.

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Yesmar | Posted 11/16/2006 9:30:02 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who hates that Ceej is allowing user-submitted pics?

None of our finals since the first two have felt as epic to me when there's five different pics for them.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 11/16/2006 9:30:30 PM | message detail
From KamikazePotato
You people seriously think Snake fans like Link more than Cloud?

I do!


Not a chance. Snake fans are Snake fans because they like someone with character. Character is something Link is sorely lacking in.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:30:45 PM | message detail
"You certainly have a lot of people who have voted for Snake up until now saying they'll give their votes to Link when he goes."

So? This board has what, 200ish people? Whoopie. Let's now account for the other tens of thousands of Snake voters who don't hit the boards and aren't biased horribly agaisnt Cloud.
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Who Cares? | Posted 11/16/2006 9:32:19 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who hates that Ceej is allowing user-submitted pics?

Yep, I love seeing mutliple pics. There's an epicness in that for me atleast.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/16/2006 9:33:33 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who hates that Ceej is allowing user-submitted pics?

None of our finals since the first two have felt as epic to me when there's five different pics for them.


I never say it since it seems to be an unpopular sentiment, but I definitely feel the same way. Summing up the entire culmination of a contest in one picture is something that I feel has been missing from the contests since 2004. Imagine if Mario v. Crono III had just been that epic *lightning bolt* picture (http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=86)...
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:33:39 PM | message detail
So? This board has what, 200ish people? Whoopie. Let's now account for the other tens of thousands of Snake voters who don't hit the boards and aren't biased horribly agaisnt Cloud.

I then said later on how Cloud takes a slight majority of the votes yet still doesn't win with those, as he hasn't the past three days even when you give him 100% of Sephiroth's votes, which he would never get. It's just a more tangible example of how people who have voted Snake throughout the entire Royale have said they would vote. It can rather easily apply to people outside of the board too, but I wouldn't expect them to be a majority. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if Link did take the majority, but I doubt he does.

Needless to say, I think Link wins this like he normally does.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:36:23 PM | message detail
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:36:50 PM | message detail
Right. Look at Snake, he's taken a lot of the Sephiroth votes. Look at Link. Has he taken any Sephiroth votes? If he has, it's very little. This implies a connection between FF7 and MGS. A very strong connection. The Snake fans are going to lean towards Cloud over Link in numbers large enough to notice, and I wager by the end fo this match Cloud will only need 66% of Snake's votes to bring the match 50/50.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:37:23 PM | message detail
That last post made no sense, time to fix.

Well, Snake seems to have benefitted twice as much from Sephiroth's elimination than Samus or Mario.

If we hold the reverse to be true, and Cloud to benefit from Snake's eliminatation twice as much as Link, then...

Cloud still loses with about 47%. Oh well.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/16/2006 9:38:26 PM | message detail
Anybody who doesn't realize cheating went on for Snake there is a monkey's uncle. But Ceej is obviously not going to do anything.

I agree with you, but the problem is I don't think there's a thing he can do about it. In my opinion it's a lot more likely that there were a number of people who voted 2 or 3 times, rather than one person who voted 50 times... and that kind of thing is just about impossible to catch.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:39:13 PM | message detail
Right. Look at Snake, he's taken a lot of the Sephiroth votes. Look at Link. Has he taken any Sephiroth votes?

He's sapping the crap out of Snake's percentage right now.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:40:12 PM | message detail
But, uh, you'll need RPGuy's nifty little chart to see where Sephiroth's votes have gone and in what percentage.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:42:11 PM | message detail
You think Snake is going to hold on to that % or even come close? He lost in the neighborhood of 3% of the total vote from this time until the end yesterday. Link lost 1%. Only Cloud increased. If that happens again today, Cloud will end up looking a lot better than he is now.
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creativename | Posted 11/16/2006 9:43:00 PM | message detail
15-minute updates up:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/43

If anyone has 5 minute updates let me know.


Well I can tell you for a fact that alt-voting (not from me, for the record) got about 50 votes in for Seph in those last 5 minutes. And they weren't counted in the final total, because Ceej fixed that method ages ago.

We all know that Ceej's vote-catching methods aren't perfect, because that's impossible. They're just good enough such that matches shouldn't be decided by cheating unless they're within a few hundred votes.

For this match, Ceej might've been able to detect something using his IP range analysis like he did in Kefka/Tommy. But he'd have to only look at the last 5 minutes (the scale of the cheating would be too small to show up otherwise), who knows if he can even do for such small time intervals (though he probably could).

At any rate, I just don't think he cares enough to put in the effort, or that he cares to delay the next match (which he'd have to here). If this was a situation where the winner wasn't advancing to the very next match, he'd be more likely to look more in depth manually than rely on his automated filters. His automated filters would be very unlikely to catch any dial-up shenanigans or the vast majority of proxy votes, for instance, and those are pretty basic cheating methods. A person should be able to detect them in the logs if he looked hard enough and had the knowledge to do so, but if Ceej did look into anything I doubt it would be anything more than a cursory "all's well" glance to reassure himself he doesn't need to do anything.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/16/2006 9:44:06 PM | message detail
Say what? I know that Snake is not going to hold that percentage simply because Link is a beast with the after school vote and we all know what Snake does during the day. I was just saying that while Snake looked like he took a huge chunk there, he's losing a lot of his percentage per update right now. Link was somewhere in the 43% area a few updates ago and now he's above 45%. Snake is the one who's been dropping as a result.

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creativename | Posted 11/16/2006 9:46:26 PM | message detail
Snake is pretty likely to fall under 20% before the end of this match I think.

In my opinion it's a lot more likely that there were a number of people who voted 2 or 3 times, rather than one person who voted 50 times... and that kind of thing is just about impossible to catch.

If true you're right, that wouldn't be catchable. Thing is, what are the odds that you'd have 20+ Snake fans voting twice, but no Sephiroth fans doing so? That type of rallying should mostly offset. It'd be incredibly unlikely to swing such a large %age of the votes in a given update.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/16/2006 9:46:36 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/16/2006 9:46:41 PM | message detail
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Overall prediction percentage: 17.83%

Overall better than I expected. Despite being one part of Clinkeroth, a lot of people didn't have faith in Sephiroth and it paid off. The -12 in first place got the match right while the -13 and -15s dropped the ball(there are no -14s). Now theres only 4 people within 8 points of Jakyl25. From the -16s to the -22s at least one person got the match right on every tier(except 1). From there the prediction percentage jumps into the 20-30 range. It jumps around but overall slowly decreases as you go down. It doesn't reach the single digits until you get to the people who were probably trying to lose or were a favorites bracket.

22 people fell off the Top 50 today. Crzyguy9, Ultima89, Luigifan98, FollowTheNoob, pbarkers77, Smell007, N2, ka255, kris22ps2, Nntfreak, Zaps, PyRo813, PKTurnip, andrewcruz, Adzial, FF7Cloud_Strife, ddmagnas, Typhoid88, daddywill88, elscorcho3200, robbieseclipse and VerbalOsmosis didn't think Sephiroth was going out today but they were wrong.

12 more people on the Top 50 were mistaken but manage to hang on to their (slightly lower) spots on the Top 50. ChromeGadget, Heroic_Rufus, SavvySam, leadrboardsteve, MasterMoltar, SocomGirl, GameFreak0909, CaptnNGameMastr, psxfreak1011, MegaMeh, Exystence and cloudff72000 also did not have Sephiroth going out in Round 3.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:47:42 PM | message detail
Seph's votes have gone to...

Cloud: +8.12

Link: +1.59

Snake: +4.6

So far
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ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:48:14 PM | message detail
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/16/2006 9:49:43 PM | message detail
That wasn't to you, HM. It was the n00b thinking Cloud needs like 80% of Snake's vote to win.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/16/2006 9:50:06 PM | message detail
It's also a bit weird that Link can take 80% of Samus's votes but Cloud is going to struggle to take 2/3rds of Seph's
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ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand.