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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 430

janembaman | Posted 11/14/2006 6:05:16 AM | message detail
Oh great,now I can't remember who I picked to lose in each round in the BR,and I don't know how to check
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Claude Rena | Posted 11/14/2006 6:06:03 AM | message detail
Top six in Noble Nine this year are:
Clinkerothiomusake
The bottom three are:
Cronic Man
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/14/2006 6:14:23 AM | message detail
Also, theoretically Samus being prone to SFF would technically mean that Mario is already taking most of her votes already, and that when she's eliminated, he won't especially get much of her leftover 8%? I think Mario going out at 5th place looks pretty likely at this point.

Which means that my Battle Royale will probably be 100% correct. Too bad I botched the actual contest X_X
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/14/2006 6:38:16 AM | message detail
Link up 2000 on Cloud.

How does this compare to their 2005 match btw?

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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/14/2006 7:50:51 AM | message detail
Hmmm...Link and Cloud have over 50% of the votes by themselves. I didn't think Sephiroth would be THIS far behind, personally. I guess he's not as much of a "favorite" as previously thought. Snake being in 4th is nice, too. This first day is rather boring because it was expected, but Snake and Mario (maybe even Sephiroth, too!) should be fighting it out tomorrow, so it should get more interesting.

The one thing I don't really like about it is that the format itself is against the idea of big comebacks and stuff once you get settled in. Plus, it's hard to really tell who's winning updates and by how much right off hand.

At 10:45, this match has 63519 votes. Tifa/Samus had 58466. Zelda/Final Fantasy had 72056.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/14/2006 7:52:08 AM | message detail
By the way, if Cloud can beat out Link in any one poll before the finals, I'll hold out hope that he can beat him. If not, I'll just say forget it and just worry about how much Link wins by.
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"I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic
Haste_2 | Posted 11/14/2006 7:57:30 AM | message detail
I figure the reason mario's doing so badly is that he gets votes in regular contest polls almost solely because of his iconic status...but he's not the favorite for very many people.

And, Sephiroth...seeing him in the Battle Royale makes me wonder how he's so close to Cloud in the first place. I figured they'd be close in terms of being the favorite, and the fact that Cloud was the main character is what pushed him ahead of Sephiroth in overall popularity, but I guess that idea is false.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/14/2006 7:58:08 AM | message detail
Bah once Solid Snake is gone Sephy will own them both.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/14/2006 8:00:30 AM | message detail
Finally it's done my adjusted 2006 rankings. There were 4 adjustments...

1) Tidus' value was what he got against Kirby last year.
2) Yoshi's 4-pack was done by keeping 2k5 Crono/Dante constant (through Vincent).
3) Tifa's Division was done keeping her and Vincent the same from last year (47.18%) and giving her a small boost (48% against Vincent). Why? Because I think she's gotten more benefit from KH2 than Vincent did in DoC.
4) Zelda's half was done by keeping the same Ryu/KOS-MOS relation as it was in 2k4.

Note that Princess Daisy isn't adjusted because lack of information, but it's not like we'll see her again anyway.

Adjusted Summer 2006 Rankings

1. Samus Aran - 50.00%
2. Solid Snake - 46.89%
3. Sonic the Hedgehog - 42.21%
4. Mega Man - 41.89%
5. Crono - 41.56%
6. Vincent Valentine - 40.26%
7. Zelda - 40.25%*
8. Squall Leonhart - 39.77%
9. Tifa Lockhart - 38.65%*
10. Sora - 38.31%
11. Ganondorf Dragmire - 38.18%
12. Auron - 37.82%
13. Bowser - 35.37%
14. Ryu - 35.16%
15. Aeris Gainsborough - 34.72%*
16. Yuna - 34.60%*
17. Yoshi - 34.50%*
18. Dante Sparda - 34.12%*
19. Luigi - 33.61%
20. Kirby - 32.05%
21. Leon Kennedy - 31.52%
22. Zero - 31.12%
23. Rikku - 31.00%
24. Riku - 30.91%*
25. Sub-Zero - 30.53%
26. Kratos - 30.15%
27. Master Chief - 29.95%
28. Gordon Freeman - 27.63%
29. Tidus - 27.15%*
30. Chun Li - 27.10%*
31. Alucard - 26.93%
32. KOS-MOS - 26.63%*
33. Princess Peach - 26.24%*
34. Jill Valentine - 26.23%*
35. Kairi - 25.87%
36. Axel - 25.25%
37. Claire Redfield - 24.79%
38. The Prince of Persia - 24.56%
39. Lara Croft - 24.10%*
40. Ryu Hayabusa - 23.75%*
41. Phoenix Wright - 23.10%
42. Captain Falcon - 21.48%
43. Marle - 20.98%*
44. Ada Wong - 20.22%
45. Sheena Fujibayashi - 19.92%*
46. The Boss - 19.67%*
47. Tingle - 18.68%
48. Ivy Valentine - 18.41%*
49. Amy Rose - 18.41%*
50. Nidoran F - 18.15%
51. Kasumi - 16.84%*
52. Soma Cruz - 16.74%
53. Terra Branford - 16.54%*
54. CATS - 16.25%
55. Lenneth Valkyrie - 15.50%
56. Celes Chere - 15.31%*
57. Joanna Dark - 15.19%*
58. Roll - 14.32%*
59. Sarah Kerrigan - 13.67%*
60. Cortana - 12.08%*
61. Carmen Sandiego - 11.21%*
62. Alyx Vance - 10.82%*
63. Jade - 9.75%
64. Princess Daisy - 8.87%*

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Claude Rena | Posted 11/14/2006 8:04:49 AM | message detail
in this topic:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=31742687&page=3
Someone from here doing the update, right? I am going off now.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/14/2006 8:12:56 AM | message detail
charmander, those stats really don't mean much at all unless you show what they mean in relation to BL.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/14/2006 8:16:42 AM | message detail
You can't really compare between years, but if no one can understand that style than I'll adjust them when I get back from school.
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Who Cares? | Posted 11/14/2006 8:27:59 AM | message detail
Just for kicks, I went & whipped up a mock 2k7 bracket. For the most part I'm taking a blind stab at how the nominations would go & who the board could end up rally for so take it for what you will! :P Oh & I decided to not retire Samus & Snake, but brought back Mario. So take a look why dontcha!

**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario
#8 Jin Kazama

#4 Tidus
#5 Sub-Zero

#3 Ashe (FF12)
#6 Minda (Zelda:TP)

#2 Kratos (God of War)
#7 Mewtwo

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora
#8 CATS

#4 Yoshi
#5 Knuckles

#3 Shadow the Hedgehog
#6 Vivi

#2 Balthier (FF12)
#7 Liquid Snake

**Flood Division**
#1 Master Chief
#8 Pac-Man

#4 Ryu
#5 Magus

#3 Vincent
#6 Gordon Freeman

#2 Mega Man
#7 Sothe (Fire Emblem Wii)

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic
#8 Kratos Aurion

#4 The Prince (of Persia)
#5 Akuma

#3 Bowser
#6 Fran (FF12)

#2 Ganondorf
#7 Ryu H.

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake
#8 Rayman

#4 Serge
#5 Jill Valentine

#3 Auron
#6 Diablo

#2 Luigi
#7 Fei Fong Wong

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono
#8 Amaterasu (Okami)

#4 Jimmy Hopkins (Bully)
#5 Ken Masters

#3 Leon Kennedy
#6 Zero

#2 Riku
#7 Barret

**Devil Division**
#1 Dante
#8 KOS-MOS

#4 Tifa
#5 DK

#3 Zelda
#6 Roxas

#2 Squall
#7 Meta-Knight

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus
#8 Phoenix Wright

#4 Seifer
#5 Alucard

#3 Kirby
#6 Fox

#2 Raiden (MGS)
#7 Yuna
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HoorayProxies | Posted 11/14/2006 8:29:04 AM | message detail
This is looking really good for Cloud... only 4% behind Link, and Seph & Snake combined have 10% more than Samus & Mario. Sure you can't say it'll all go to Cloud, but there's a higher chance it does, as we've seen MGS/FF overlap before, and obviously Seph would almost all go to Cloud. I hope it happens, as much as I don't believe in KHF, it'd be awesome after seeing LoZ > FF, and HM like this.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/14/2006 8:47:48 AM | message detail
Looks like you've got another dirty Devil Division there.

And Yuna being the Cinderella 7-seed upset at the end of the round is all but guarenteed.

TuRtLe
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/14/2006 8:48:03 AM | message detail
**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario

#5 Sub-Zero

#6 Minda (Zelda:TP)

#2 Kratos (God of War)

Mario over Kratos in the finals.

Good division for the most part, although Mewtwo's totally wasted. GoW 2 means that Kratos will be quite a beast. Midna vs. Ashe and Tidus vs. Subby are great matches though.

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora

#4 Yoshi

#3 Shadow the Hedgehog

#2 Balthier (FF12)

Sora > Balthier.

Better than what we saw from Sora's division last year, but I can't see anyone really challenging Sora, unless Balthier can SFF him for a victory. With the new Sonics, Shadow might challenge Balthier, and Knuckles might even beat Yoshi...if not for SMG, which could even be enough for Yoshi to beat Sora...maybe.

**Flood Division**
#1 Master Chief

#5 Magus

#3 Vincent

#2 Mega Man

Vincent > Magus

Sothe? Sothe? Seriously, WTF? Other than that, this is a pretty good division. Ryu vs. Magus is a great match, as is Vincent vs. Mega Mn.

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic

#4 The Prince (of Persia)

#3 Bowser

#2 Ganondorf

Ganon > Sonic

Eh, I don't know if Kratos Aurion's going to be coming back. PoP vs. Akuma might be good, but I doubt it, especially as PoP will likely get his next game by then. Bowser is wasted, as unless his role in SMG is absolutely amazing post-TP Ganon will crush him. Ganon vs. Sonic could be good, but Sonic's next gen stuff might be enough to prevent that upset. Putting that fourpack in Crono's division might work better.

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake

#4 Serge

#3 Auron

#2 Luigi

Snake > Auron

Pretty crappy division overall. Auron vs. Luigi is the only match that even stands a chance of being good (well, I guess you could make an argument for Jill vs. Serge), and again, that depends on SMG.

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono

#5 Ken Masters

#3 Leon Kennedy

#2 Riku

Jimmy Hopkins vs. Ken Masters? WTF is that? Leon vs. Zero and Leon/Zero vs. Riku are pretty cool though, so I suppose this division isn't that bad.

**Devil Division**
#1 Dante

#4 Tifa

#3 Zelda

#2 Squall

Zelda > Tifa

A great division for 2k6. Not so much for 2k7. Tifa crushes Dante and Zelda crushes everyone, and none of the first round matches are good. Also, Roxas isn't suddenly going to replace Axel in 2k7...someone like Vaan is more likely.

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus

#4 Seifer

#3 Kirby

#7 Yuna

Samus > Kirby

Seifer vs. Alucard is great. But why on earth did you put Kirby against Fox and Yuna against Raiden? Yuna vs. Kirby and Fox vs. Raiden would both be great, but not so much the matches you have (unless MGS4 is out by then, but I doubt that).

Mario > Sora, Ganon > Vincent, Snake > Crono, Samus > Zelda

Mario > Ganon
Samus > Snake

Mario > Samus

The end is decent, but I'm much rather see Samus vs. Crono than a Samus vs. Zelda rematch. Also, Snake vs. Mario would be quite interesting, although I suppose you're hoping to get Sonic vs. Mario, which is possible.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/14/2006 8:55:21 AM | message detail
**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario
#5 Sub-Zero

#3 Ashe (FF12)
#2 Kratos (God of War)

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora
#5 Knuckles

#3 Shadow the Hedgehog
#2 Balthier (FF12)

**Flood Division**
#1 Master Chief
#5 Magus

#3 Vincent
#2 Mega Man

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic
#4 The Prince (of Persia)

#3 Bowser
#2 Ganondorf

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake
#5 Jill Valentine

#3 Auron
#2 Luigi

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono
#5 Ken Masters

#6 Zero
#2 Riku

**Devil Division**
#1 Dante
#4 Tifa

#3 Zelda
#2 Squall

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus
#4 Seifer

#3 Kirby
#7 Yuna




#1 Mario
#2 Kratos (God of War)


#1 Sora
#2 Balthier (FF12)


#1 Master Chief
#2 Mega Man


#1 Sonic
#2 Ganondorf


#1 Solid Snake
#3 Auron


#1 Crono
#6 Zero


#4 Tifa
#3 Zelda

#1 Samus
#3 Kirby

#1 Mario
#1 Sora

#2 Mega Man
#1 Sonic

#1 Solid Snake
#1 Crono

#3 Zelda
#1 Samus



#1 Mario
#2 Mega Man

#1 Solid Snake
#1 Samus

#1 Mario
#1 Samus


#1 Mario

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/14/2006 8:59:38 AM | message detail
Mac, you think Vincent will beat Mega Man, despite him not coming close to roughly equal Sonic after getting his own game a month before the match?

Vincent will be weaker next year unless a FF7 remake comes out before the contest.

TuRtLe
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/14/2006 9:01:35 AM | message detail
I've stated repeatedly that I think Snake overperformed on Sonic, and I stand by that. Sonic doesn't have to beat MM by much for Vincent > MM.

More surprising is that you have MM > Sonic, yet Knuckles and Shadow performing amazingly. Do you think that the next gen Sonics well help everyone but Sonic?
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Who Cares? | Posted 11/14/2006 9:05:42 AM | message detail
But why on earth did you put Kirby against Fox and Yuna against Raiden? Yuna vs. Kirby and Fox vs. Raiden would both be great, but not so much the matches you have (unless MGS4 is out by then, but I doubt that).

Yeah, I was thinking MGS4 would be out by then, but if it isn't flip-flopping Yuna & Fox would be ideal.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 9:12:28 AM | message detail
Snake just won one against him too...

Snake won an update over Link TAKE THAT HM
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 9:14:27 AM | message detail
Also, this is pretty close to what I expected (which is great because I have Cloud winning this thing). Cloud's actually been doing a bit better than what I thought he would, which I like a lot. Nice to see Samus getting torn apart, not so nice to see Mario around that level. Snake outlasting Mario seems very possible.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/14/2006 9:32:04 AM | message detail
So it's been Sephiroth that's gained the most over the night, huh?

Oh, and to whomever beleives that Cloud would even need to beat Link before the finals to have a real shot at him: What if Cloud + Seph is well over 50% the day before the final match?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 9:37:18 AM | message detail
Yeah, Cloud doesn't need to beat Link before the finals, Cloud and Sephy just need to garner well over 50% down that final stretch, with Cloud showing clear dominance.

Don't forget the PS3 influx we're getting in a few days! That's, like, an influx of 100 Sony-oriented voters!!!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/14/2006 9:40:25 AM | message detail
Oh come now... it'll be at least 200.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/14/2006 9:41:00 AM | message detail
Don't forget the PS3 influx we're getting in a few days! That's, like, an influx of 100 Sony-oriented voters!!!

Snake > Sephiroth confirmed!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/14/2006 9:53:02 AM | message detail
Ehh, I'd need to see Cloud beat Link in a poll at least once before I felt confident about it. If he can beat Link in a poll without Sephiroth (say Cloud/Link/Snake), I'd feel really good about his chances.

And I suppose I'll wait and see if Cloud ends up closer to or farther away from Link tomorrow.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 9:56:27 AM | message detail
If he ended up closer to Link tomorrow, I'd be really confused. Samus going out should only help the remaining Nintendo brethren.

At this point, it looks like the Sony triumverate is going to finish above 53% over the Nintendo trifecta, which looks good for Cloud's chances. However, I'd expect Snake's fanbase to be more likely to defect to Link/Mario's crowd after he's gone than I'd expect Samus' to defect to Cloud/Sephiroth's.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/14/2006 10:01:27 AM | message detail
I know that Mario surviving tomorrow is in question, but does anybody question that Samus being eliminated helps Mario more than any other character? If Mario does get that much of an advantage (which would guarantee at least 1.65% more than today), he's in good contention to survive another day...though still the underdog.

There's a 2.4% gap between Mario and Solid Snake right now...Mario getting more than 20% of Samus's votes would mean the gap becomes 0.75% (or smaller), and then it changes from there depending on how much more Mario gets over 1/5 of Samus's votes and how many votes Solid gets to take from Samus as well...and considering how we've seen that Samus and Mario definitely share a fanbase (Mario/Samus, SMB3/Metroid, probably more) AND they're more similar than Mario/Link or Samus/Link, I wouldn't put it outside of Mario's chances to snag lots of Samus's votes tomorrow.


Of course, for Mario to win, this assumes that Mario gets just over 34% of Samus's votes today (currently) AND matches Solid's gains vote-for-vote, so he should still be the underdog with it...but it's plenty reasonable, too, not to mention that Link/Mario/Samus most likely still have the afterschool vote to look forward to today, so that should lighten the load some.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/14/2006 10:01:44 AM | message detail
ATTN: Charmander

If you're going to adjust Tifa, then adjust Boss using Terra 2k5 = Celes (or arbitrarily knock off a couple of %). Thanks.

Oh, yay bracket!

**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario (obvious)

#5 Sub-Zero (Best. Upset Pick. Ever. >_>)

#6 Minda (Zelda:TP) - ...ouch.

#2 Kratos (God of War)

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora

#5 Knuckles

#3 Shadow the Hedgehog

#2 Balthier (FF12) (urgh)

**Flood Division**
#1 Master Chief (Though pac would be one hell of an upset pick XD. Hey, it's ****ing Master Chief, it could happen)

#4 Ryu (Ryu being underrated in 2005 + Crono Trigger drop = definite possibility)

#3 Vincent

#2 Mega Man

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic

#4 The Prince (of Persia)

#3 Bowser

#2 Ganondorf

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake (Rayman getting in makes this bracket automatically win)

#5 Jill Valentine

#3 Auron

#2 Luigi

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono

#5 Ken Masters (XD @ Hopkins)

#3 Leon Kennedy(ooh etc)

#7 Barret (ooh etc)

**Devil Division**
#1 Dante (Why is KOS seeded so low?)

#4 Tifa

#3 Zelda

#2 Squall

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus

#4 Seifer

#3 Kirby

#2 Raiden (MGS) (OH YEAH, ****ING BURN)


**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario
#2 Kratos (God of War) (Midna might have some decent strength, but post-GoWII Kratos will be beastly)

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora (Hmm...)
#3 Shadow the Hedgehog (Hmmm...)

**Flood Division**

#4 Ryu (Or Magus. Whatever)
#3 Vincent (Yeah, Vincent might increase again next year, what with Crisis Core (I know he doesn't star, but he might make a cameo?) and a possible remake announcement) - MM can only drop, unless he gets announced for SSBB)

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic
#2 Ganondorf (Yeah, we finally get to see Bowser/Ganon, years after it would have been a good match)

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake
#3 Auron

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono
#7 Barret (meh)

**Devil Division**
#4 Tifa
#3 Zelda

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus
#3 Kirby


**Mushroom Division**
#1 Mario

**Hearts Division**
#1 Sora (Sora could lose to Shadow or Knuckles, though)

**Flood Division**

#3 Vincent

**Chaos Division**
#1 Sonic (without all the stuff Sonic is getting, Ganon would win easily. As it is, it's pretty much a 50-50...meh)

**Patriot Division**
#1 Solid Snake

**Luminare Division**
#1 Crono

**Devil Division**
#3 Zelda

**Zebes Division**
#1 Samus




#1 Mario

#1 Sonic (Another close run for Sonic)

#1 Solid Snake

#1 Samus (Though it'll be very close; I still think Zelda overperformed slightly due to Villain Contest Factor though, especially since Samus didn't really seem to struggle with Snake)


Mario
Snake (might have had SSBB by then, and it's not like Samus is out of reach as-is)

Mario (Pretty much a toss-up IMO)
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/14/2006 10:03:46 AM | message detail
I think Samus dropping out helps Link more than Mario, even if Link doesn't need it. The question is whether or not what she gives to Mario is enough.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/14/2006 10:04:31 AM | message detail
1) Celes is no Terra.
2) As long as Tifa isn't adjusted, then you're fine with The Boss not being adjusted.

I like The Boss too, but come on now XIII.....
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 10:05:28 AM | message detail
I'd bet on Mario outlasting Snake tomorrow actually, except I think Link is going to benefit significantly more from Samus' absence than he will. There's already a decent margin between the two...I'm still betting on Snake, though it really is a tossup.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/14/2006 10:10:45 AM | message detail
I think Mario barely edges out Solid tomorrow -- it's hard for me to think Mario wouldn't at LEAST get 2% of Samus's votes, and the after-school vote should favor Samus and Mario both today to make for both a smaller gap between Mario/Solid and more votes that Mario is more likely to take than Solid.

Link will definitely benefit from Samus dropping, too, though I still don't think it'll be as much as Mario. The other three shouldn't get TOO many of them, I figure -- the three of them together would be doing great to get 45% of Samus's votes.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/14/2006 10:14:14 AM | message detail
Those three... get 45% from Samus? No way, not even close. That'd be doing great if they could take a quarter of those votes, and my mind would boggle if they took anything more than a third.

I suspect half will go to Link, a third will go to Mario and the remainder will be split among the other three w/ Snake likely doing the best of them.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/14/2006 10:16:26 AM | message detail
Right -- like I said, doing great. I wanted to guess lower, but in this BR-situation I wasn't about to talk like I know precisely what I'm talking about, heh.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 10:24:22 AM | message detail
HEY GUYS SAMUS SFFED YURI BOOST HIM
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 10:25:00 AM | message detail
and for whatever it's worth, my vote goes from Samus to Cloud tomorrow.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/14/2006 10:25:24 AM | message detail
Initial percentage after 1 hour:

Cloud Strife - 22.04%
Link - 29.69%
Mario - 11.64%
Samus Aran - 8.76%
Sephiroth - 14.18%
Solid Snake - 13.70%

Percentage difference from 1:00-2:00

Cloud Strife - +0.26%
Link - -0.84%
Mario - -0.04%
Samus Aran - -0.15%
Sephiroth - +0.53%
Solid Snake - +0.23%

Percentage difference from 2:00-3:00

Cloud Strife - +0.46%
Link - -0.63%
Mario - -0.19%
Samus Aran - +0.03%
Sephiroth - +0.17%
Solid Snake - +0.16%

Percentage difference from 3:00-4:00

Cloud Strife - +0.42%
Link - -0.50%
Mario - -0.19%
Samus Aran - +0.03%
Sephiroth - +0.10%
Solid Snake - +0.14%

Percentage difference from 4:00-5:00

Cloud Strife - +0.45%
Link - -0.41%
Mario - -0.14%
Samus Aran - -0.19%
Sephiroth - +0.26%
Solid Snake - -0.05%

Percentage difference from 5:00-6:00

Cloud Strife - +0.12%
Link - -0.32%
Mario - -0.09%
Samus Aran - -0.06%
Sephiroth - +0.29%
Solid Snake - +0.06%

Percentage difference from 6:00-7:00

Cloud Strife - +0.09%
Link - -0.10%
Mario - -0.02%
Samus Aran - -0.06%
Sephiroth - +0.15%
Solid Snake - -0.09%

Percentage difference from 7:00-8:00

Cloud Strife - +0.02%
Link - +0.11%
Mario - +0.08%
Samus Aran - -0.09%
Sephiroth - +0.02%
Solid Snake - -0.12%

Percentage difference from 8:00-9:00

Cloud Strife - -0.09%
Link - +0.16%
Mario - +0.02%
Samus Aran - -0.05%
Sephiroth - +0.19%
Solid Snake - -0.21%

Percentage difference from 9:00-10:00

Cloud Strife - -0.13%
Link - +0.05%
Mario - +0.05%
Samus Aran - -0.01%
Sephiroth - +0.01%
Solid Snake - -0.01%

Percentage difference from 10:00-11:00

Cloud Strife - +0.04%
Link - +0.12%
Mario - +0.01%
Samus Aran - -0.06%
Sephiroth - +0.04%
Solid Snake - -0.14%

Percentage difference from 11:00-12:00

Cloud Strife - -0.03%
Link - -0.03%
Mario - -0.01%
Samus Aran - -0.01%
Sephiroth - +0.10%
Solid Snake - -0.03%

Percentage difference from 12:00-13:00

Cloud Strife - +0.03%
Link - -0.09%
Mario - +0.05%
Samus Aran - -0.02%
Sephiroth - +0.05%
Solid Snake - -0.01%

Percentage difference from 1:00-13:20

Cloud Strife - +1.66%
Link - -2.44%
Mario - -0.49%
Samus Aran - -0.58%
Sephiroth - +1.94%
Solid Snake - -0.09%

...My goodness, Link's Power Hour is exactly that. He's been pretty much dropping in percentage since then. Sephiroth seems to be the exact opposite. He hasn't had an hour where he HASN'T gained since then. Samus...just drops. Solid Snake appears to be the most consistent throughout, though that's because he gained a lot through the night and he's starting to lose it. Out of all, Mario has really been the most stable.
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Vlado | Posted 11/14/2006 10:26:15 AM | message detail
3) Tifa's Division was done keeping her and Vincent the same from last year (47.18%) and giving her a small boost (48% against Vincent). Why? Because I think she's gotten more benefit from KH2 than Vincent did in DoC.

That's just not right, dude. Keeping them the same as last year? Both are much stronger now. Tifa below Zelda and Squall? lol
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/14/2006 10:27:50 AM | message detail
Tifa NOT below Squall? LOL. She's not beating Vincent.
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Vlado | Posted 11/14/2006 10:28:19 AM | message detail
Yeah, but Vincent would get at LEAST 54-55% on Squall now.
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HoorayProxies | Posted 11/14/2006 10:42:07 AM | message detail
EC's Excellent X-Stats!

Samus – 46.61
Solid Snake – 43.71
Sonic – 39.34
Mega Man – 39.05
Crono – 38.73
Vincent Valentine – 37.70
Squall Leonhart – 37.07
Ganondorf – 35.75
Sora – 35.71
Auron – 35.24
Tifa Lockhart – 33.71
Zelda – 33.71
Yoshi – 33.06
Bowser – 32.97
Ryu (SF) – 32.77
Dante – 32.73
Luigi – 31.32
Kirby – 29.87
Riku – 29.62
Leon Kennedy – 29.38
Aeris Gainsborough – 29.08
Zero – 29.00
Yuna – 28.98
Rikku – 28.89
Sub-Zero – 28.45
Kratos (GoW) – 28.11
Master Chief – 27.91
Gordon Freeman – 25.76
Tidus – 25.30
Alucard – 25.09
Kairi – 24.18
Axel – 23.53
Claire Redfield – 23.17
Jill Valentine – 22.89
Princess Peach – 22.89
Prince of Persia – 22.88
Ryu Hayabusa – 22.78
Chun-Li – 22.70
KOS-MOS – 22.30
Phoenix Wright – 21.54
Lara Croft – 20.18
Captain Falcon – 20.02
Ada Wong – 18.85
Marle – 17.58
Tingle – 17.42
Sheena Fujibayashi – 17.38
The Boss – 17.16
Terra Branford – 17.10
Nidoran F – 16.92
Joanna Dark – 16.50
Ivy Valentine – 16.06
Soma Cruz – 15.60
Amy Rose – 15.42
CATS – 15.15
Lenneth – 14.45
Kasumi – 14.19
Sarah Kerrigan – 14.13
Celes Chere- 13.38
Cortana – 13.12
Roll – 12.00
Carmen Sandiego – 9.38
Jade – 9.09
Alyx Vance – 9.06
Princess Daisy – 7.74

HI, I’M DAISY!

***These are clearly not the most linear stats ever created, I basically used a constant Luigi to start off with the stats, and everything seems to work decently. Crono drops a tad, Sonic increases a tad, MM increases ever so slightly, and Snake boosts like crazy. Snake that high feels so wrong, but 55ing Sonic and MM is no joke, I feel like if I drop him any lower, it messes up things. I could potentially buy an overperformance on Sonic, since it makes the most sense, but I didn’t factor it into my stats, it’ll just be in the back of my head for the next contest (granted with Wii/PS3 out, even if we had perfect stats this year, there’s gonna be a huge chance of change next year). I set Zelda 2K6 = Zelda 2K5, Tifa 2K6 = Zelda 2K5, and used Dante 2K5 = Dante 2K6 to extrapolate Yoshi (even though I think Dante boosted). I also just assumed Squall/Snake went legit, and adjusted Tidus through 2K6 Kirby. Terra 2K6 = Terra 2K5, and Joanna 2K6 = Joanna 2K5. If it wasn’t obvious, I kept the BR crew at their numbers from last year.

Not taken into account: Gordon’s probable non-linearity, which more than likely overrated both himself and PW in the stats, possible Ryu non-linearity as well.


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HoorayProxies | Posted 11/14/2006 10:44:10 AM | message detail
Whoops! I forgot to add in the BRers, but whatever.

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consolefreak | Posted 11/14/2006 11:02:56 AM | message detail
Awesome stuff. This looks pretty good for my Royale prediction (Mario will probably edge out Snake tomorrow with Samus' votes), though I have to say, Cloud is looking quite a lot more impressive than Link for me right now. I wouldn't mind Cloud > Link though, even if it is against my bracket.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 11:11:50 AM | message detail
Oh, almost forgot -- here are the magnificent, Kay Aitch approved (lol) X-Stats designed to "look good" and not much else!

Adjustments are pretty 'optimistic' all-around, even for the characters that I adjust down.

Samus Aran - 42.82
Solid Snake - 41.45
Sonic the Hedgehog - 39.33
Crono - 38.72
Vincent Valentine - 37.69
Tifa Lockhart - 37.38
Mega Man - 37.03
Zelda - 36.64
Ganondorf - 35.74
Auron - 35.24
Squall Leonhart - 35.16
Sora - 34.10
Yoshi - 33.09
Bowser - 32.96
Dante - 32.73
Aeris Gainsborough - 31.61
Yuna - 31.50
Luigi - 31.32
Ryu - 31.07
Kirby - 29.86
Riku - 29.65
Leon Kennedy - 29.37
Zero - 28.90
Sub-Zero - 28.45
Master Chief - 27.91
Kratos - 26.65
Rikku - 26.55
Princess Peach - 25.38
Jill Valentine - 25.38
Alucard - 25.09
Chun-Li - 24.67
Gordon Freeman - 24.60
KOS-MOS - 24.24
Prince of Persia - 22.87
Ryu Hayabusa - 22.78
Axel - 22.31
Kairi - 22.15
Lara Croft - 21.94
Claire Redfield - 21.23
Phoenix Wright - 20.57
Captain Falcon - 20.01
Tidus - 19.68
Sheena Fujibayashi - 19.27
Marle - 19.11
The Boss - 19.03
Ivy Valentine - 17.81
Ada Wong - 17.32
Amy Rose - 16.76
Tingle - 16.63
Nidoran F - 15.54
Kasumi - 15.42
CATS - 15.14
Terra Branford - 15.06
Soma Cruz - 14.86
Celes Chere - 14.81
Joanna Dark - 13.83
Lenneth Valkyrie - 13.28
Roll - 13.04
Sarah Kerrigan - 12.44
Cortana - 11.00
Carmen Sandiego - 10.22
Alyx Vance - 9.85
Princess Daisy - 8.58
Jade - 8.35

Basically, I pretend that Snake's matches aside from Soma, Squall, and Mega Man never happened, ignore Samus' matches past Rikku, and adjust by individual divisions. Spazer is adjusted by Rikku 2k5, Limit is done with Jill 2k3, Triforce and Aeon are adjusted together by KOS-MOS 2k4.

For the male side, Patriot is done by using Squall 2k5 for Snake's fourpack and Dante 2k5 for Yoshi's. The Destiny Division is just done by using MM's percentage on the Snake that I adjusted from Patriot. Blast and Time divisions are combined and adjusted through a constant Luigi.

Questions? Comments? Criticisms?
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 11:17:41 AM | message detail
looks like you did about the same thing I did, except I took Samus through Squall. I didn't like how high it put her division but I didn't want to end up with a Samus that could potentially be under Snake. (flashbacks to last year)
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meche313 | Posted 11/14/2006 11:18:56 AM | message detail
I don't really like the fact that you used KOS-MOS 2k4 value, and maybe Dante boosted also. Other than that...well they look 'fine'.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/14/2006 11:19:36 AM | message detail
I can't take Samus through Squall, it really makes her division too high for my tastes (remember, I'm using a constant Rikku and NOT adjusting her for Dream Division overratedness already). It's not so bad, really, in my stats Samus scores a little over 52% on Snake, she got a little over 53%, so if you believe that she sapped that SSBB support at all it lines up nicely.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 11:19:40 AM | message detail
oh, and you left Tidus alone. though I bet that was more forgetting it happened than anything else.
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