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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 430

transience | Posted 11/13/2006 11:24:30 PM | message detail
you don't realize how truly ****ed up these are until you compile them yourself. just typing out Ganondorf's name below Yuna's makes my head spin.


Samus - 50.00
Tifa - 49.51
Solid Snake - 46.89
Zelda - 44.73
Sonic - 42.19
Mega Man - 41.89
Crono - 41.54
Vincent - 40.43
Yoshi - 40.18
Squall - 39.77
Dante - 39.73
Aeris - 38.58
Yuna - 38.45
Ganondorf - 38.34
Sora - 38.31
Auron - 37.80
Riku - 35.99
Bowser - 35.36
Ryu - 35.16
Peach - 33.62
Jill Valentine - 33.61
Luigi - 33.59
Kirby - 31.96
Leon Kennedy - 31.60
Zero - 31.10
Rikku - 31.00
Sub-Zero - 30.53
Kratos - 30.15
Chun Li - 30.12
Master Chief - 29.93
KOS-MOS - 29.59
Ryu Hayabusa - 27.65
Gordon Freeman - 27.63
Alucard - 26.91
Lara Croft - 26.78
Kairi - 25.87
Sheena - 25.52
Axel - 25.25
The Boss - 25.20
Claire - 24.79
Prince of Persia - 24.58
Ivy - 23.59
Marle - 23.32
Phoenix Wright - 23.10
Tidus - 22.25
Captain Falcon - 21.46
Amy Rose - 20.47
Ada Wong - 20.22
Celes - 19.62
Kasumi - 18.82
Tingle - 18.68
Terra - 18.38
Nidoran F - 18.15
Joanna Dark - 16.88
Soma Cruz - 16.74
CATS - 16.24
Roll - 15.91
Lenneth - 15.50
Sarah Kerrigan - 15.19
Cortana - 13.42
Carmen Sandiego - 12.45
Alyx Vance - 12.02
Daisy - 11.37
Jade - 9.75

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andaca | Posted 11/13/2006 11:30:45 PM | message detail
PW > Tidus confirmed.
E_Gadd | Posted 11/13/2006 11:31:28 PM | message detail
Whoa, I seemed to have missed a lot these past few days. Sorry, I'm still browsing through the stats topics but some surprises to me were Mega Man not dropping and Samus STILL beating Snake. (Did SAMUS SFF SNAKE's SSBB votes?)

Also, XD @ Master Chief as ultimate loser! Out of all the probable ultimate losers (Alyx Vance, Phoenix Wright, Ryu Hayabusa, Prince of Persia, Master Chief), this one has to be the funniest and most unexpected one.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 11/13/2006 11:32:30 PM | message detail
lol x-stats
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/13/2006 11:35:12 PM | message detail
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/13/2006 11:35:55 PM | message detail
One last votal projection before I go to sleep...currently looking at 164,396 votes based on Samus/Tifa. Very good to see that it hasn't lost a step - we may be looking at the six most popular polls in the next six days!
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/14/2006 12:13:14 AM | message detail
This from HM:
TP's art direction is fantastic and TP Link is easily the best incarnation of Link we've ever had.

No, the Spaceworld 2000 Link still reigns supreme as far as design goes, at least in my mind.
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 12:33:15 AM | message detail
How will the X-stats be calculated regarding the characters in the Battle Royale?

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 12:41:53 AM | message detail
From MasterOfHunters Posted 11/14/2006 3:13:14 AM #107
No, the Spaceworld 2000 Link still reigns supreme as far as design goes, at least in my mind.


To be honest, my favorite Link so far has got to be TP Link.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/14/2006 12:45:08 AM | message detail
My favorite Link will always be OoT Link. He's the first one I played as, and he's always been awesome.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/14/2006 12:45:30 AM | message detail
There are several priceless snippets in those stats, more of which I would comment on, were it not for an art history paper.

Jill above Kirby, Yoshi above Ganondorf and Bower, and Peach above Luigi are some of my favorites.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/14/2006 12:49:25 AM | message detail
To be honest, my favorite Link so far has got to be TP Link.

I may lean that way too, after I play the game. I've been staying away from the spoilers and even screen shots as much as I can. But the Spaceworld2000 Link, while being a a little younger looking than the TP Link (dude he does not look 17... more like 24!), looks like he belongs in the Zelda world more so than the TP Link, who looks more like the invincible Fierce Deity Link.
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 12:55:09 AM | message detail
No, the Spaceworld 2000 Link still reigns supreme as far as design goes, at least in my mind.

...You're a fan of Link with lipstick?

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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:07:50 AM | message detail
okay, I compiled my own set of stats. warning: these are extremely subjective and made to "look nice".

Samus - 43.88
Snake - 41.45
Sonic - 39.33
Crono - 38.72
Vincent - 37.69
Mega Man - 37.03
Ganondorf - 35.74
Auron - 35.24
Squall - 35.16
Tifa - 34.98
Zelda - 34.70
Sora - 33.86
Yoshi - 33.09
Bowser - 32.96
Dante - 32.73
Luigi - 31.32
Ryu - 31.08
Aeris - 29.93
Kirby - 29.87
Yuna - 29.83
Riku - 29.65
Leon Kennedy - 29.37
Zero - 28.99
Sub-Zero - 28.45
Master Chief - 27.90
Rikku - 27.21
Tidus - 26.73
Kratos - 26.65
Alucard - 25.09
Gordon Freeman - 24.42
Peach - 23.76
Jill - 23.75
Chun Li - 23.36
KOS-MOS - 22.96
Prince - 22.88
Ryu Hayabusa - 22.77
Kairi - 22.70
Axel - 22.31
Claire - 21.76
Lara Croft - 20.77
Phoenix Wright - 20.42
Captain Falcon - 20.01
Marle - 18.09
Sheena - 18.04
The Boss - 17.80
Ada Wong - 17.74
Ivy - 16.66
Tingle - 16.51
Nidoran F - 15.93
Amy Rose - 15.87
CATS - 15.14
Soma Cruz - 14.80
Kasumi - 14.61
Terra - 14.26
Celes - 13.86
Lenneth - 13.60
Joanna - 13.10
Roll - 12.35
Sarah Kerrigan - 11.78
Cortana - 10.41
Carmen Sandiego - 9.66
Alyx Vance - 9.33
Jade - 8.56
Daisy - 8.03

metholodology:

- I adjusted Yoshi's fourpack off 2k5 Dante;
- I adjusted Tifa's division off the assumption of 2k5 Ryu = 2k6 Jill;
- Zelda and Yuna's divisions are based off KOS-MOS 2k3 = KOS-MOS 2k6;
- Sonic and Crono's divisions are based off Luigi 2k5 = Luigi 2k6;
- I adjusted Tidus using Kirby 2k5 and Bowser 2k6;
- everything else (Snake's fourpack, Samus's division, Sora's division) is based off a constant Squall.

*shrugs*
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/14/2006 1:08:17 AM | message detail
...You're a fan of Link with lipstick?

It just looked that way! Hey, at least he didn't look like a shounen anime character that TP looks like!
Claude Rena | Posted 11/14/2006 1:09:04 AM | message detail
I don't realised I have Samus coming last in Battle Royale until just now... and I believe this is what most people have (Crono/male winner fifth). That's why no one vote for Samus. Samus' votes are only for sympathy. Tomorrow is going to be Mario/Snake.

Question: Will I get the 8 points if Snake out tomorrow? (I have Crono out tomorrow)
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:09:51 AM | message detail
yeah you will, all that matters is that the male winner goes out next.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 1:09:54 AM | message detail
But TP Link is made out of pure badassery!
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:10:34 AM | message detail
Shounen anime?

http://www.thehylia.com/media/albums/userpics/10001/Linkonhorse.jpg

I'm getting more of a Napoleon vibe myself!

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:11:43 AM | message detail
Those stats actually don't look too bad.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:14:29 AM | message detail
In fact, the method you used to make them doesn't seem too farfetched, I don't think. Although the one questionable bit I have is a constant Squall, but it's probably more likely than not that he didn't receive that much from KH2, though it is admittedly inconclusive.

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Sonic_Factor | Posted 11/14/2006 1:14:40 AM | message detail
So, what happens to those stats if Luigi 2k6 >2k5?
transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:15:56 AM | message detail
then Sonic and Crono's divisions boost proportionally. the problem with this is that Sonic/Snake isn't actually taken into account; these stats project that match to go 52.5/47.5 instead of 55/45. like I said, they're made to "look good".
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:16:46 AM | message detail
and constant Squall was used to keep Snake down a little bit. if you use constant Sonic, you end up with a Snake around 43% and a Samus around 45-46. I don't feel good boosting the entire field up that high. it just ends up looking weird to me.
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Redtooth | Posted 11/14/2006 1:19:37 AM | message detail
Cloud has had several winning updates against Link in the last hour. Though it's more Link then anything. Snake just won one against him too...
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:27:05 AM | message detail
Not too surprising. Cloud actually had a lead on Link for a small time during last year's encounter. This'll get really ugly come morning.

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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:29:53 AM | message detail
actually, it'll probably get ugly with the afterschool vote. we'll get a glimpse in a few hours, but I don't think we'll see the full effect until after school.

but really, this isn't a one-on-one battle. it's tough to call a six-way "ugly".
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:30:58 AM | message detail
Well, I think Link's going to easily finish with over 30% here. I think it'll be pretty clear on who's going to be dominating the poll between morning and the end of the after school vote, but I suppose we'll see.

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Redtooth | Posted 11/14/2006 1:34:56 AM | message detail
He'll push 30...but will that be enough? ;D

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/14/2006 1:35:29 AM | message detail
HE'S SO BREAKING 36% JUST YOU WAIT !!

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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:35:56 AM | message detail
he's not against five Cronos in the daytime!
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/14/2006 1:38:00 AM | message detail
What I want to see is how much better Link does on Cloud one on one than last year. I'm going to have to wait a while to find out though. : /

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Redtooth | Posted 11/14/2006 1:41:58 AM | message detail
I think the interesting thing is we'll get to see some day-by-day trends as well. I mean, technically we're getting 5 straight Cloud versus Link (Or whatever final you've concocted...), and I'm curious how they'll differ, besides the obvious SFF issues.

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 1:47:39 AM | message detail
I'm a bit surprised and disappointed that Sephiroth is on the receiving end of this much SFF.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/14/2006 1:49:11 AM | message detail
Yeah, my Sephiroth > Cloud pick goes up in flames, pretty much... I guess Link SFFs Sephiroth even more than Cloud does. =(
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 1:55:55 AM | message detail
eh, I dunno if this is "SFF" -- Sephiroth just isn't as strong as Link or Cloud. I think Mario's doing far worse with it than Sephiroth is, personally. Sephiroth is not doing all that bad unless you thought he was gonna get 25% or something, which I think was unrealistic.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 11/14/2006 1:58:21 AM | message detail
Link is doing bad. :(

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 1:59:44 AM | message detail
He is? o_O

Didn't Cloud have a tiny bit of a lead against Link at this time last year?
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 2:00:11 AM | message detail
different start time.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 2:01:12 AM | message detail
speaking of which, here's the match by hour:

Time. | Cloud | Link | Mario | Samus | Seph | Snake | Total Votes
05:00 | 23.18% 27.72% 11.22% 8.67% 14.98% 14.23%
04:00 | 26.10% 24.28% 9.90% 8.89% 15.64% 15.18%
03:00 | 24.58% 25.69% 10.69% 8.74% 15.57% 14.73%
02:00 | 22.75% 27.47% 11.52% 8.37% 15.59% 14.31%
01:00 | 22.04% 29.69% 11.64% 8.76% 14.18% 13.70%

sorry 'bout the formatting.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 2:02:15 AM | message detail
In terms of percentages, I thought Link was doing incredible well here what with Mario and Samus in the same battle.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 2:02:53 AM | message detail
Link's doing fine. I don't think RPG was serious there.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/14/2006 2:04:12 AM | message detail
Ah. ^_^;
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Kaxon | Posted 11/14/2006 2:05:14 AM | message detail
Right now the Playstation characters are getting 53% of the vote compared with 47% for the Nintendo characters. That will probably change during the day, but at the moment it's I don't think Cloud's upset chances look any worse than they did before the contest. Cloud and Sephiroth are the only ones facing someone from their own game (unless you count SSBM, I guess), so I'd say Cloud will probably absorb a higher percentage of Sephiroth's votes after he's eliminated than Link will of Samus and Mario's.

Also, because Samus already gets SFFed harder than anyone else in the match, I think it's possible that the 8.5% who haven't defected don't prefer Link > Cloud by as big a margin as you might expect.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2006 2:07:29 AM | message detail
personally, I think Link/Cloud goes about the same as last year. but I wouldn't take a six-way battle to mean much of anything about a one-on-one battle. there's a lot of votes that could go either way there.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/14/2006 3:21:10 AM | message detail
Good news, stat-heads! lol x-stats is ready to rock with all your 2006 results!

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/

Because there are no official adjusted stats yet, the raw values are in there as the main. (So don't click the box to use Raw, it won't work yet.) The adjustment to Base Link was made by setting Mega Man equal to his 2005 value. I'll edit that once creative comes up with a true least squares ratio to adjust more accurately.

I've also adjusted a few things here and there while I was updating... all pictures now display in their true size on the results screen. The 3 random pics on top are now displayed in the larger, modern size of 140x150. If you click those randoms, you now get to see the full version. And at a couple people's suggestion, I've added a year tag to the top of the result page, so you know exactly who you're dealing with. For instance

Snake (2006c) has a strength of 43.00 against Base Link.
Snake (2005c) has a strength of 36.97 against Base Link.

Rather than just Snake v Snake. And now to commemorate this proud event, I will throw out the ceremonial first lol x-stat!

Snake (2006c) VS Snake (2005c)

Snake has a strength of 43.00.
Snake has a strength of 36.97.

Snake wins with 57.01% of the vote!
A win of 15,820 with 112,811 total votes cast.


lol trailers... or something?

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/14/2006 4:21:59 AM | message detail
Samus is just flat out getting owned right now
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/14/2006 5:15:28 AM | message detail
Ouch, Mario stinkin' it up so far. He needs to get a portion of Samus's votes tommorrow if he wants to outlive Snake...
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/14/2006 5:20:06 AM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/14/2006 5:58:53 AM | message detail
Cloud doesn't seem to be suffering at all from Sephiroth's presence. At least, not as much as I expected. I thought he would share more votes with him than Link would with Mario and Samus because they're from the exact same game, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Unless Cloud actually ends up beating Link one-on-one this time
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