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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 429
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/13/2006 2:47:10 PM | message detail |
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One thing I nailed last year is that I suggested the whole Devil Division get adjusted down except Vincent. And whaddya know, I was right! Uh, what? How do you figure that? --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 2:47:37 PM | message detail |
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Spazer Division (1) Samus Aran (8) Jade (4) Ryu Hayabusa (5) Gordon Freeman (3) Riku (6) Ada Wong (2) Auron (7) Celes Chere Chaos Division (1) Vincent Valentine (8) Roll (4) Zero (5) Claire Redfield (3) Leon Kennedy (6) Prince of Persia (2) Yoshi (7) CATS Blast Division (1) Sonic the Hedgehog (8) Cortana (4) Kratos (5) Sheena Fujibayashi (3) Princess Peach (6) Marle (2) Ganondorf (7) Nidoran F Triforce Division (1) Princess Zelda (8) Carmen Sandiego (4) Master Chief (5) Kairi (3) Luigi (6) Tidus (2) Sora (7) Terra Branford 20XX Division (1) Mega Man (8) Sarah Kerrigan (4) Sub-Zero (5) Axel (3) Jill Valentine (6) Phoenix Wright (2) Dante Sparda (7) Soma Cruz Patriot Division (1) Solid Snake (8) Alyx Vance (4) Chun-Li (5) Lara Croft (3) Ryu (6) Captain Falcon (2) Aeris Gainsborough (7) Kasumi Time Division (1) Crono (8) Lenneth Valkyrie (4) Rikku (5) The Boss (3) Kirby (6) Ivy Valentine (2) Squall Leonhart (7) Joanna Dark Limit Division (1) Tifa Lockhart (8) Princess Daisy (4) KOS-MOS (5) Alucard (3) Bowser Koopa (6) Amy Rose (2) Yuna (7) Tingle --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 11/13/2006 2:49:19 PM | message detail |
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How do we adjust these (almost) final X-stats to compare against Base
Link? Do we need to use that Least Squares to figure it out? If so, can
anyone but creative check that for us? I'd like to add these values into lol x-stats tonight. --- thengamer.com/xstats - "lol x-stats," The Contest Simulator thengamer.com/gamefaqs - The Contest Archives |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/13/2006 2:49:30 PM | message detail |
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Or we could do what I said and disregard the stats as having Villain Contest-levels of canonity. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 132/160 Today: Samus |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/13/2006 2:50:46 PM | message detail |
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(4) Chun-Li (5) Lara Croft Also, what the hell are Least Squares? o_O --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 132/144 Today: Sonic |
| Lopen | Posted 11/13/2006 2:51:32 PM | message detail |
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And whaddya know, I was right! Uh, what? How do you figure that? Seriously. Squall's only slipped a bit from Vincent, and Dante's actually closer to Vincent than he was. Terra and Kerrigan may have slipped a tad, but who cares? That's 50% accuracy in your speculation at best. --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 2:53:02 PM | message detail |
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Hmmm...I'll adjust Tifa through Hayabusa and work from there. The big
question is...who stays constant? I kinda like the way things look
through Mega Man myself, though it seems really weird based on his
performances. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2006 2:55:36 PM | message detail |
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not just his, but Zero's as well. I struggle to believe that MM was
constant. I'm still in the Sonic camp, but I'm up for an argument of
someone not in the NN. --- zizzy |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/13/2006 2:56:05 PM | message detail |
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Hmmm...I'll adjust Tifa through Hayabusa and work from there. The
big question is...who stays constant? I kinda like the way things look
through Mega Man myself, though it seems really weird based on his
performances. Again, it's really looking like Sonic's half of the male division should be adjusted up. Ignoring that part of the bracket, would Samus 2k4 work at all? --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/13/2006 2:56:10 PM | message detail |
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What does holding Luigi constant get you? --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/13/2006 2:58:20 PM | message detail |
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What does holding Luigi constant get you? It's almost like holding Crono constant, just a bit weaker. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| Lopen | Posted 11/13/2006 2:59:47 PM | message detail |
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Isn't holding Sonic and Mega Man constant virtually the same thing
anyway? They got about the same on Snake, and they went about 50-50
last year. I think I'll just be in the camp that basically ignores these things except for argumentation purposes... though arbitrary adjustments and a bajillion sets of stats are fun! (Not sarcasm... they are!) --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:00:08 PM | message detail |
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not just his, but Zero's as well. What? Keeping him proportional with Zero or holding Zero at the same as his 2005 value? Holding him at his 2005 value doesn't seem like it would work... --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2006 3:01:56 PM | message detail |
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just the fact that Mega Man and Zero both disappointed in every match
they were in. you can say we had the wrong perceptions, but you can't
expect me to see five underperformances between them in a row and not think there was some kind of decline. though it may make the numbers look better.. who knows. --- zizzy |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 11/13/2006 3:04:25 PM | message detail |
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Zelda > male bracket? Awesome. Anyway, I say we adjust Rikku up 5% and leave the rest as is. --- caps |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/13/2006 3:04:45 PM | message detail |
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Well, Vincent did about as expected against Sonic, while Dante and Squall both underperformed. ...And that's all I've got. In my eyes, I nailed it. --- Gordon Freeman finally won, but somehow, the universe survived... thus allowing me to tell said universe about how I was owned by NClark128. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:07:36 PM | message detail |
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...If Vincent did as he was supposed to, then he wasn't overrated and
the rest of the division isn't overrated because Squall loses...about
.3% on him from last year. In other words, you can't say Vincent was fine and the rest were overrated. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2006 3:08:30 PM | message detail |
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2K2 is easy to explain. There was a VERY large demographic switch and
vote total intake right in the middle of the contest. That thing gained
momentum like no other contest ever has or will. I still think Cloud
beats Mario with votals akin to the first round of that contest. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:08:49 PM | message detail |
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Why not keep, like, Joanna Dark constant. Just for fun. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:09:03 PM | message detail |
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Actually, scratch that. PDZ came out. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 11/13/2006 3:09:42 PM | message detail |
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If we keep Joanna constant, then Zelda > Link. >_> --- caps |
| trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2006 3:10:21 PM | message detail |
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heh, I wonder if holding Terra or Joanna constant would really be all that different to the problem we have now. --- zizzy |
| -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/13/2006 3:10:26 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to add these values into lol x-stats tonight. Well, shouldn't Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Mario be in the x-stats for this year's contest? --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:10:33 PM | message detail |
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Actually, constant Luigi sounds pretty good, now that I think about it. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2006 3:11:00 PM | message detail |
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I love the argument over stats every post-contest as if they bear any
linear relevance. Those stats certainly account for increase in vote
totals through a contest, rallying, and about 9 million SFF
possibilities. Yep. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2006 3:12:24 PM | message detail |
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I love how the character perceived to be the star of the contest for
the first two rounds and the character perceived to be the most
disappointing are the two we're considering for constants. --- zizzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:12:29 PM | message detail |
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And yet characters remaining relatively constant happens anyway. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| Big Bob | Posted 11/13/2006 3:12:51 PM | message detail |
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Okay, honest? I don't care for the stats that much. Whenever I did my
oracle picks, I never looked at the stats and adjusted them up/down at
all. I just went with what I felt was reasonable. And a lot of the
time, my picks weren't that off. So basically, with not paying any attention to the stats, Vincent got on Sonic exactly what I expected of him, and Dante and Squall both disappointed. If they're closer to Vincent in the stats than last year, I'll blame it on the 2nd SSBB trailer released mid-contest. If you don't buy that, oh well. Not that it makes a bit of difference; these things are as useless as the 2k2 stats. --- Gordon Freeman finally won, but somehow, the universe survived... thus allowing me to tell said universe about how I was owned by NClark128. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:13:06 PM | message detail |
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We should keep Snake constant!!!! --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/13/2006 3:14:14 PM | message detail |
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Well, shouldn't Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Mario be in the x-stats for this year's contest? And how would you accomplish this, unless the Battle Royale works itself about perfectly consistently...which isn't going to happen. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:14:41 PM | message detail |
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Squall disappointed because we had no idea how beastly Snake was.
Considering he's looking to get 46-47%+ on Mega Man, Crono, and Sonic,
it's ridiculous to say the division was overrated. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:15:57 PM | message detail |
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What about Kratos? --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 11/13/2006 3:16:02 PM | message detail |
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How about a constant KOS-MOS or Chun-Li? *random suggestion* --- caps |
| trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2006 3:16:22 PM | message detail |
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yeah, no matter what we do with these stats Squall is going to look
equal to his 2k5 self (or maybe more) and Dante looks beastly if you
take Yoshi's result against Snake seriously. there is pretty much no
reason to question the DD at this point. --- zizzy |
| lolxstats | Posted 11/13/2006 3:16:43 PM | message detail |
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I feel like posting here. We should keep Snake constant!!!! Indeed, we should. <_< |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/13/2006 3:17:53 PM | message detail |
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What about Kratos? Kratos has reason to be underrated last year and reason to boost this year. --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:18:01 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to keep Crono constant, but that means Mega Man actually BOOSTED, so... --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:18:28 PM | message detail |
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Kratos has reason to be underrated last year and reason to boost this year. That's irrelevant. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 11/13/2006 3:20:35 PM | message detail |
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That's irrelevant. ...What? --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:20:56 PM | message detail |
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...What? You heard me. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/13/2006 3:21:00 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to keep Crono constant, but that means Mega Man actually BOOSTED, so... Again, underrated Sonic's half of male bracket! It's like WDF, only backwards! (And it would've been the West Division too, if we still had compass divisions!) --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/13/2006 3:21:02 PM | message detail |
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"I'd like to keep Crono constant" But he went from beating Mario to losing to Sonic in the span of two years. How is that constant? --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:22:03 PM | message detail |
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What about KOS-MOS? She never seems to change in strength despite any Xenosaga games. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 11/13/2006 3:22:40 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I'll just give Ryu his 2004 value and work from there. --- "A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own." - Solid Snake "I'll show you what true speed really is!" - Sonic |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/13/2006 3:23:21 PM | message detail |
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But he went from beating Mario to losing to Sonic in the span of two years. How is that constant? Sonic this year is definitely stronger than 2k4 Mario. --- Demyx > Axel Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XII, Phoenix Wright 2: Justice For All |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/13/2006 3:23:34 PM | message detail |
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*smacks forehead* It's so obvious. Give Aeris her 2K2 value and get to work. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 11/13/2006 3:24:22 PM | message detail |
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| Lopen | Posted 11/13/2006 3:24:35 PM | message detail |
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A constant Mega Man is fine. Mega Man
hasn't lost a step... how many times have I gotta say this? The only
match Mega Man disappointed me in was his match with Snake! Sora had
reason to boost like mad, and he was kinda obscured last year
anyway. Axel had reason to be decent, with his fan favorite status from
a contender for GameFAQs GotY. Ryu had reason to be underrated from a
flukish Bowser match. --- Squall: "Hi, like Cloud from the last game, I am full of angst and am named after weather." - Slow Beef |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 11/13/2006 3:29:25 PM | message detail |
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Usually I just work with creatives stats, and have mental notes of
everything different I believe, but this year what I think is probably
going to be so far off from his stats, I think I'm just going to end up
making my own. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 11/13/2006 3:31:31 PM | message detail |
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I agree with Lopen... it seems like people in these topics can never
get perceptions out of there head, despite being shown something
completely different. If you want to wish Sonic is leagues ahead of MM
now, go right ahead and be horribly wrong. There's reasons for MM
performing as he did, and his match with Snake, in comparison to
Sonic's is all that you should need to know that he's nearly equal to
his x-stat value last year. I wouldn't actually base them off of him,
but he didn't fluctuate more than 1%, and that's being generous. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
