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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 428

Karma Hunter | Posted 11/12/2006 10:46:26 PM | message detail
OH GOD 50/50 UPDATE COMEBACK DIE SAMUS DIE
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/12/2006 10:46:39 PM | message detail
Samus going from favorite to nearly losing outright to iffy to clear underdog to winning the first couple hours is just emblematic of the twists of this contest.

And the true beauty in this is that this whole contest was essentially built around hype for the huge changes the gaming industry is about to experience (well, that and KHII >_>). I can only imagine what the future will bring.
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TehMissingLink | Posted 11/12/2006 10:46:54 PM | message detail
I can see Cloud AND Sephiroth ranking above Link with Samus and Mario (Snake too <_<) taking away his Nintendo votes.

They are not going to take away very many of his Nintendo votes at all. He is the Nintendo character. He's the one who's going to stealing all of their votes away, not the other way around.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/12/2006 10:47:05 PM | message detail
Samus was the favourite simply because of the way Snake manhandled the male bracket while Samus faltered a bit with her opponents (especially ZSSF/FF12F boosted Tifa)

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/12/2006 10:47:19 PM | message detail
And yes, I'm implying the votals would be significantly HIGHER right now because of that. Leave me alone.

Well, we're still 2000 behind Samus vs. Tifa. Granted, that was Nintendo vs. Square, but still...
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creativename | Posted 11/12/2006 10:47:25 PM | message detail
People are right, Link should break 20% on the first day. Still dubious about 25% though.


And it also makes one wonder how exactly she seems so strong. FFXII is the preffered theory, yes?

Actually FF12 is totally not even on the radar, in terms of logic. It's been discredited by like a bazillion things, though I still hear people talking about it.

It was the picture, or a Tifa boost, or inexplicable non-linearity, take your pick.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/12/2006 10:48:28 PM | message detail
Well, we're still 2000 behind Samus vs. Tifa. Granted, that was Nintendo vs. Square, but still...

You're right!!!

FIX THE POLL CEEJ SNAKE CAN STILL WIN THIS
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JamesOwnzMaz | Posted 11/12/2006 10:49:36 PM | message detail
Die Snake Die.

Die Snake Die

Die Snake Die.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/12/2006 10:49:50 PM | message detail
FF12F boosted Tifa

I can't speak for everyone else, but I'd still consider that theory to be a bit faulty. Mainly because no other square character seemed to be affected by any sort of ff12 temporary square boost.
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creativename | Posted 11/12/2006 10:49:52 PM | message detail
the huge changes the gaming industry is about to experience (well, that and KHII >_>). I can only imagine what the future will bring.

Exactly! Due to the next-gen shift, the future of these contests will contintue to be very dynamic.
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Big Bob | Posted 11/12/2006 10:50:00 PM | message detail
The only problem with this contest was how ridiculously easy the female bracket was.

Especially Yuna's division. The whole thing was matches that were just barely out of range of being interesting. Every match in that division could be decided with 10 seconds of thinking.
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Mister Mario | Posted 11/12/2006 10:50:40 PM | message detail
Wait, what were the things which dissected the FFXII idea?
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BeTheMan | Posted 11/12/2006 10:50:51 PM | message detail
I'm really curious as to how SFF will play out in a six-way match. Does most of the Samus support go to Link because he's at the top of the Nintendo food chain, or does Mario pick up more of it since he (arguably) pulled more SFF on her than Link did? Will Sephiroth outperform Cloud because he's the lone villainous option in the poll? Does Snake's fanbase get eaten at by FF7, by Nintendo, or will he actually hold it because he's neither Square nor Nintendo? Does Samus benefit at all from being the only female in the poll? Will Link be hurt on the first day by his "favorite" status? There's a lot to look at...it should be a fun day.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/12/2006 10:50:52 PM | message detail
Heh, this match is just so confusing to me.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/12/2006 10:51:21 PM | message detail
There has never been any sign that Cloud and Sephiroth would go dead-even anywhere (with 2k3 being the closest to date) -- Cloud has beaten Sephiroth head-to-head twice, Cloud outdid Sephiroth against Link last year, and that one DoC:FF7 website HM used to link to alot had Cloud dominate a favorite-character poll that featured Sephiroth if you want to argue "just FF7-fans will be voting for Cloud and Sephiroth anyways"...

...so, unless you feel like Sephiroth's role in FF:AC made more people like him in it that Cloud's role (ha) or Seph's role in KH2 is THAT much better than Cloud's role in it (couldn't say one way or another on that), that's just ludicrous.


BOLD PREDICTION: Sephiroth will never be within 2% of Cloud in any poll in the upcoming Battle Royal.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/12/2006 10:52:43 PM | message detail
From dragoontheguy
FF12F boosted Tifa

I can't speak for everyone else, but I'd still consider that theory to be a bit faulty. Mainly because no other square character seemed to be affected by any sort of ff12 temporary square boost.


Auron? Yuna? Sora?!

TuRtLe
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creativename | Posted 11/12/2006 10:53:33 PM | message detail
Just so people know, the update script will not be running for the Battle Royale. (except for hopefully the last match)

So if people can make some update topics, that would be cool. I can put the data from that up on the site.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/12/2006 10:54:32 PM | message detail
Another BOLD PREDICTION: Every day, no matter what day, the total percentage of votes Nintendo characters will get will outdo FF7's...except when it becomes Cloud/Sephiroth/Link.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/12/2006 10:54:55 PM | message detail
Except Sora is looking to be on par with Auron, and they both presumably benefitted from said theoretical 'boost' (and I'd expect Auron to benefit more because he's ACTUALLY Final Fantasy, and PS2 FF as well).

So that theory doesn't fly there, Turtle.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/12/2006 10:55:15 PM | message detail
If Samus had a suited picture, Tifa would have got about 55%. If Samus had a suited picture and the match took place 2 weeks earlier, Tifa would have strugged to break 40%

TuRtLe
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/12/2006 10:55:34 PM | message detail
Auron? Yuna? Sora?!

Auron and Yuna didn't really look any stronger there then they did in their other matches in the slightest, and considering how well kh characters did this year, what's wrong with sora's performance being legit?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/12/2006 10:55:48 PM | message detail
Another BOLD PREDICTION: Every day, no matter what day, the total percentage of votes Nintendo characters will get will outdo FF7's...except when it becomes Cloud/Sephiroth/Link.

Are you counting Snake? And that's not a very fair comparison...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/12/2006 10:56:45 PM | message detail
And holy crap Samus is still increasing. Looks like she has this in the bag barring a catastrophic case of Snake > Samus SFF......

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

TuRtLe
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/12/2006 10:57:17 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Sephiroth will never be within 2% of Cloud in any poll in the upcoming Battle Royal.

I might have something to say about that there, HaRR. Seph will be beating Cloud in the Link/Cloud/Sephiroth day.

Also, I read your script.... pretty good. Fun stuff... what class did you write that for?
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creativename | Posted 11/12/2006 10:57:33 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Sephiroth will never be within 2% of Cloud in any poll in the upcoming Battle Royal.

I'd take the other side of this, simply because I don't see things being so consistent and clear-cut in the BR.

As for your other prediction, well, that one's pretty tame :)
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/12/2006 10:57:38 PM | message detail
And holy crap Samus is still increasing. Looks like she has this in the bag barring a catastrophic case of Snake > Samus SFF......

Err... how te hell would sff not happen for the first two hours of a match and then come out of nowhere? 0_o
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/12/2006 10:58:46 PM | message detail
Since FFXII factor is being discussed: how do people see Tifa/Zelda going now? It could be close, but this match is putting Zelda on Vincent's level...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/12/2006 10:59:32 PM | message detail
From dragoontheguy
Auron? Yuna? Sora?!

Auron and Yuna didn't really look any stronger there then they did in their other matches in the slightest, and considering how well kh characters did this year, what's wrong with sora's performance being legit?


Yuna looks stronger against Zelda if you take into consideration Dream Division overratedness making her match against Chunners look more dominant than it actually was.

Sub-Zero being so high makes me really doubt Auron's performance on Crono was legit.

As for Sora, the bulk of his boost probably came from KH2, but I can't see him being anywhere near Vincent's level.

TuRtLe
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JamesOwnzMaz | Posted 11/12/2006 10:59:53 PM | message detail
na na na na na na na na hey hey hey goodbye Snake.


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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/12/2006 11:00:23 PM | message detail
Since FFXII factor is being discussed: how do people see Tifa/Zelda going now? It could be close, but this match is putting Zelda on Vincent's level...

Zelda being around Gannon in the xstats give or take a few percentage points seems to make perfect sense to me.
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DBZFIGHTERS | Posted 11/12/2006 11:00:31 PM | message detail
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/12/2006 11:01:37 PM | message detail
Yuna looks stronger against Zelda if you take into consideration Dream Division overratedness making her match against Chunners look more dominant than it actually was.

Ryu boost = Chun Li boost.

Sub-Zero being so high makes me really doubt Auron's performance on Crono was legit.

Crono losing to Sonic addresses that.

As for Sora, the bulk of his boost probably came from KH2, but I can't see him being anywhere near Vincent's level.

Yeah, that's the fishiest one. Underrated 2k5 Sora helps there, but how much?
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Dorami | Posted 11/12/2006 11:03:00 PM | message detail
About Samus' supposed lackluster performance:
Is it even right to conclude that Ganondorf is above Zelda? In 2003, he was extrapolated from Magus, and he had a close match with Tidus. The next year, all three of them got destroyed, though only Tidus was in a non-SFF match, but he got doubled (or almost doubled) by Mega Man. A year later, Magus loses to Knuckles. It seemed that all three were inflated because of Magus' unexplained performance on Link.

Maybe Zelda > Ganondorf should be considered an example of the biting order of popularity not always hero > villain > other main characters.
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gonf | Posted 11/12/2006 11:03:12 PM | message detail
Samus lead is OVER 900 HUNDRED!!!
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/12/2006 11:04:16 PM | message detail
Yuna looks stronger against Zelda if you take into consideration Dream Division overratedness making her match against Chunners look more dominant than it actually was.

Yuna looked much, much stornger then last year the whole contest though.

Sub-Zero being so high makes me really doubt Auron's performance on Crono was legit.

What he did to Alucard leads me to believe otherwise.

As for Sora, the bulk of his boost probably came from KH2, but I can't see him being anywhere near Vincent's level.

Why not? Riku of all people is damn near dante... sora being so high doesn't really seem that out there to me.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 11/12/2006 11:06:39 PM | message detail
I just logged on to see that I'M ABOUT TO WIN THE MAIN BRACKET!

...if Samus holds on that is.

I wish I remembered my BR picks!!!
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/12/2006 11:08:51 PM | message detail
Also, I read your script.... pretty good. Fun stuff... what class did you write that for?

It's for an upcoming event -- no grades or anything...though it deserves an A+!


Sub-Zero being so high makes me really doubt Auron's performance on Crono was legit.

First it was "Frog > Sub-Zero with 55%" because Sub-Zero had a game come out before MC/Sub-Zero, then when Sub-Zero cracked 40% on Auron we heard "KHF is bull****" some more (though, granted, it wasn't you saying that), then when Auron did so well against Crono people said Crono probably dropped...

...really, come on now -- Sub-Zero was going to always be stronger than Scorpion, noticably stronger at that...and, though I didn't expect it to have him be THIS high, it's still plenty within his range (and fits nicely with me having always said MK ain't that far behind SF on this site, though there are plenty more people with SF as their #1 series than MK).
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/12/2006 11:09:48 PM | message detail
It's for an upcoming event -- no grades or anything...though it deserves an A+!

Reason I asked is just coz I didn't expect to see the poor guy get ripped to shreds like that. I dunno, it was different.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/12/2006 11:11:45 PM | message detail
He he he, yeah -- I wrote it like that with the auditor's full intent being to make Jason want to kill himself from all the verbal abuse...

...but I think Jason will come back lookin' like a successful underdog after it's all said and done.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 11/12/2006 11:14:42 PM | message detail
Is it even right to conclude that Ganondorf is above Zelda? In 2003, he was extrapolated from Magus, and he had a close match with Tidus. The next year, all three of them got destroyed, though only Tidus was in a non-SFF match, but he got doubled (or almost doubled) by Mega Man. A year later, Magus loses to Knuckles. It seemed that all three were inflated because of Magus' unexplained performance on Link.

I think people got the idea Ganny was powerful for Putting 45% on Sephiroth.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/12/2006 11:15:34 PM | message detail
Let's get this futile comeback in gear, Snake!
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zwong1 | Posted 11/12/2006 11:18:06 PM | message detail
I now regret it. I rather support Tifa defeating ZSS so Snake can beat Tifa easily claiming his glory.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/12/2006 11:18:46 PM | message detail
Okay, this may be futile, but 1000 vote barrier activate!!!
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wavedash101 | Posted 11/12/2006 11:19:52 PM | message detail
So where does this put Zelda in the stats at the current precentage?

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wavedash101 | Posted 11/12/2006 11:20:31 PM | message detail
percentage*
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gonf | Posted 11/12/2006 11:21:04 PM | message detail
Samus is winning because she had a day of rest. Snake just finished with Sonic and had to come to his next battle right away. It's unfair!

=P
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Dorami | Posted 11/12/2006 11:21:22 PM | message detail
I think people got the idea Ganny was powerful for Putting 45% on Sephiroth.
42% on Sephiroth. I'm pretty sure most people on this board expected that much from him because of his 2k3 performance. It still seems like that it's explicitly a villains contest skewed the vote results.
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Vytron | Posted 11/12/2006 11:32:50 PM | message detail
My theory:

Scissors > Paper > Rock

However:

Rock > Scissors.

So, I think some characters that lost in the contest would've beaten Samus or Snake, it's all about the pairings.
MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/12/2006 11:36:13 PM | message detail
Samus up 1000... gg Snake.
rpgapzx | Posted 11/12/2006 11:40:53 PM | message detail
Can someone do stats with this finishing at 52/48? 50/50?
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