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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 426

MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/11/2006 10:30:14 PM | message detail
.I'd say LoZ:TP is more anticipated, but between it not gettin' perfect reviews at E3

Yeah, umm, new impressions since E3 -- "You'd be a fool to get the GCN version over the Wii version." Straight from the press!

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/11/2006 10:30:39 PM | message detail

Plenty of things can explain this. Shift in voting trends, more voters, random variation, bracket votes, more Snake fans coming to the site...

Saying this strength based off a trailer is so ****ing idiotic that it pains me to think that you people think this way. It really does.


We have never seen a shift in voting trends do this. I find it harder to believe that any of that stuff made Snake jump 10% in one year and is making a roided Sonic look like dogcrap than the trailer doing it.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:31:38 PM | message detail
Samus > Mario!!!!

If she was as originally as popular as Snake, yeah.

Mario can't take 100% of Snake's new fanbase when he gets it. Even letting Snake get 20% is enough to slip to him in a rematch. To believe otherwise is...well, Turtle-esque.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/11/2006 10:31:48 PM | message detail
It will be interesting to see how he fares against Samus next round and how the Nintendo influx helps or hurts him in that instance

Fictional influxes can't have real life impacts on a match silly.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:32:03 PM | message detail
BT made up statistics that don't exist and have no way of being proven.

BT also never said the statistics were official and set in stone.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:33:28 PM | message detail
If she was as originally as popular as Snake, yeah.

Mario can't take 100% of Snake's new fanbase when he gets it. Even letting Snake get 20% is enough to slip to him in a rematch. To believe otherwise is...well, Turtle-esque.


That was my point that Snake would fall close to what he got on Mario last year. He'd still have all of his MGS power, but would lost most, if not all of his boost from SSB:B

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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/11/2006 10:33:50 PM | message detail
BT made up statistics that don't exist and have no way of being proven.

BT also never said the statistics were official and set in stone.


The point is that they aren't statistics at all because you didn't base them on anything.

hay guyz, i bet advent childern mad 60% of links fans tern to clod fans. clod wit 80% cuza sff!
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wavedash101 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:33:59 PM | message detail
I bet SSBB outsells SMG and TP this gen...everyone I know, even PS and Xbox fanboys, want to play that game, especially if it goes online...

XD at Crono being in SSBB...oh boy what then!

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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/11/2006 10:34:41 PM | message detail
especially if it goes online...

Isn't online being pumped as a major feature of the game?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:35:12 PM | message detail
If Snake overperforms or underperforms to any unusual exent (moreso than we've seen) on Samus, then I say it confirms his new Nintendo fanbase. He will either bury Samus equally during the day and night, or Samus will swing more in the day than Sonic will.

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Master Moltar | Posted 11/11/2006 10:35:43 PM | message detail
...

You know, I think I'm going to call it a night.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/11/2006 10:35:48 PM | message detail
W....T.....F?!

Woo! =D
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:13 PM | message detail
That was my point that Snake would fall close to what he got on Mario last year. He'd still have all of his MGS power, but would lost most, if not all of his boost from SSB:B

Turtle, you didn't listen AT ALL. Mario can't SFF Snake like that. No one can SFF anyone like that. For all that he SFFed Samus, the woman still broke 40% on him.

Once Snake is in SSBB, that's it. Mario may SFF 60, 70, 80% of that new fanbase away, but as long as there's at least a reasonable fraction of new fans that stick with Snake, he wins.

And if you don't believe that it's possible for a newcomer to supplant a significant number of votes from the established powerhouse in a SFF match where the SFFer has all the intangibles? One need look no further than Snake/Raiden.
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wavedash101 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:28 PM | message detail
The online bit is still iffy...they havent officially announced it to definitely be there so they dont get burned to bad if it doesnt go WiFi...but everyone is expecting it to.
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BDawg | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:37 PM | message detail
Well Samus might as well take Snake so half the lol female bracket can end up higher than Sonic and Crono.
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Kegger9 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:37 PM | message detail
Hay guys lets kick Mega Man out of the Noble Nine and make it the Elite Eight


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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:41 PM | message detail
If Snake overperforms or underperforms to any unusual exent (moreso than we've seen) on Samus, then I say it confirms his new Nintendo fanbase.

XDXDXD

Waitl you're being serious? Well okay, but considering our read on both characters is kind of off right now, I'm not sure what constitutes as over or underperforming.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:36:41 PM | message detail
Then again, Snake might do what Zero did and use his badassery to be on the positive end of SFF and beat Mario 60-40 <_<

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:37:15 PM | message detail
Turtle, you didn't listen AT ALL. Mario can't SFF Snake like that. No one can SFF anyone like that. For all that he SFFed Samus, the woman still broke 40% on him.

Link/Ganondorf <_<

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2006 10:37:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, umm, new impressions since E3 -- "You'd be a fool to get the GCN version over the Wii version." Straight from the press!

I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that either version of LoZ:TP aren't THAT much more anticipated than SSBB. That's not a shot at LoZ though, Nintendo simply has probably the two most anticipated games here.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:38:26 PM | message detail
Link/Ganondorf <_<

Merely proving that G-dorf is less than nothing.

Although really, even THAT much could be enough for a Snake win. He has MGS4 on the way as well, y'know.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 11/11/2006 10:39:30 PM | message detail
hay guy what if snake dies in mgs 4 lolololo/
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/11/2006 10:39:37 PM | message detail
SMG will be the biggest Wii game ever, or so I hope...>_> (It's seriously my most anticipated game)

So, how bout kicking Mega Man out of the Noble Nine huh guys?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:39:44 PM | message detail
Well, my point was that he would do worse on Mario than he'd be projected to. He'd actually be indirectly stronger, as opposed to that poser smaus

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/11/2006 10:40:19 PM | message detail
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that either version of LoZ:TP aren't THAT much more anticipated than SSBB. That's not a shot at LoZ though, Nintendo simply has probably the two most anticipated games here.

I have no idea how one could think it isn't more anticipated right now than SSBB. Using E3 as an example of it getting not so perfect reviews is pretty much insigificant after everyone has been giving it glowing impressions since playing the final build of the game. I'm not saying that SSBB isn't anticipated, but everything is in TP's favor by a longshot.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:40:40 PM | message detail
New game!

Predict how high Snake takes this with the night vote!

I'll take 58.5%

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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/11/2006 10:40:51 PM | message detail
So, how bout kicking Mega Man out of the Noble Nine huh guys?

We can always kick out crono. >_>
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/11/2006 10:40:54 PM | message detail
Heh, another +.15% for Snake, it just doesn't stop!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:41:49 PM | message detail
Good Lord this match makes Crono look awful.

Barring an absolutely titanic collapse from Samus, Crono is at the bottom of the Noble Nine. That didn't take long <_<
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:42:23 PM | message detail
HM, why are you arguing the point? TP being more anticipated has nothing to do with anything today. At any rate, TP is anticipated by the same people that have played every other Zelda game, whereas SSB:B is anticipated by people who are way less likely to have even HEARD of Snake before that trailer.

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Majin Lou | Posted 11/11/2006 10:42:56 PM | message detail
Snake whooping Sonic makes Squall look even more awesome, so keep making Sonic your *****, Snake!
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2006 10:43:04 PM | message detail
I'm not trying to question the idea that LoZ:TP > SSBB in terms of hype, either, but it's ludicrous to think it'd be by lots when SSBM is the biggest classic since LoZ:OoT and Solid Snake making it into SSBB is the biggest news since the first trailer of LoZ:TP (if not bigger...but I'm not trying to push that argument).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:43:29 PM | message detail
To be honest, I hope Sonic brings this down to around what MM got. I'm more right if MM > Sonic by a small margin in the stats than if Sora > Sonic <_<

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/11/2006 10:44:02 PM | message detail
HM, why are you arguing the point? TP being more anticipated has nothing to do with anything today. At any rate, TP is anticipated by the same people that have played every other Zelda game, whereas SSB:B is anticipated by people who are way less likely to have even HEARD of Snake before that trailer.

...Shut up. You have not the slightest clue of how we got to TP and what the context of the conversation is. If you go back to read my earlier posts, you'll actually find where I say I think the trailers actually helped Snake! It's fascinating stuff.

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/11/2006 10:44:43 PM | message detail
Heh, Snake can push this all the way to 60% for all I care at this point. MM for SC2k7 champ (assuming Snake is retired).

Believe!!!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:45:23 PM | message detail
I will now use my Turtle-stats to assert this somehow proves Cloud > Link
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:46:01 PM | message detail
Although, yeah, that's the other possibility I forgot to mention! FFXII-influx FTW? <_<
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:46:06 PM | message detail
Funny that the Noble 9 from last year are being completely turned around... aside from MM > Sonic.

darn you shinejay
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:46:08 PM | message detail
If you're agreeing with me, then why are you busting my balls over something trivial and having nothing to do with the current argument. TP is more hyped simply because it is coming out next week as opposed to SSB:B which will be sometime next fall. If you were here for E3, you would have noticed WAY more hype for SSB:B, and I think in the weeks leading up to SSB:B the place will be more hyped for it than it is currently for TP.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/11/2006 10:46:55 PM | message detail
If you're agreeing with me, then why are you busting my balls over something trivial and having nothing to do with the current argument.

Listen. Just listen.

I. Was. Not. Talking. To. You.

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PukeInMyPot | Posted 11/11/2006 10:47:27 PM | message detail
XD
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:48:18 PM | message detail
From Karma Hunter
I will now use my Turtle-stats to assert this somehow proves Cloud > Link

Turtle-stats? All I argued was that MM was constant, and it looks like he is, or even a little higher. My oracle for today was 54.5% because I wussed out a bit.

From Karma Hunter
Although, yeah, that's the other possibility I forgot to mention! FFXII-influx FTW? <_<

By the time Cloud/Link go at it, the FF12 influx that let Tifa go 50/50 with Samus will have worn off for the most part, and be completely replaced with TP hype.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/11/2006 10:48:33 PM | message detail
If you were here for E3, you would have noticed WAY more hype for SSB:B, and I think in the weeks leading up to SSB:B the place will be more hyped for it than it is currently for TP.

If I was here for E3, huh? I was totally missing all right. I don't think I actually broke the news or anything.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/11/2006 10:48:37 PM | message detail
From MyWorldIsZelda
If you're agreeing with me, then why are you busting my balls over something trivial and having nothing to do with the current argument.

Listen. Just listen.

I. Was. Not. Talking. To. You.


<_<

>_>

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falcofan88 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:48:39 PM | message detail
Snake > All
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PukeInMyPot | Posted 11/11/2006 10:49:28 PM | message detail
Crono
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2006 10:49:38 PM | message detail
I was actually referring to FFXII boosting Snake. <_<
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PukeInMyPot | Posted 11/11/2006 10:50:03 PM | message detail
It really is amazing tohugh how much KHII helped Auron and Sora...
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falcofan88 | Posted 11/11/2006 10:50:04 PM | message detail
EIther way, my bracket is dead...
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