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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 425
wavedash101 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:37:15 PM | message detail |
Metroid=/=Samus in the slightest...i'd take Samus to beat her own series easily... >_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2006 9:37:17 PM | message detail |
Haste summed up how I feel about the BR situation. --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2006 9:37:18 PM | message detail |
I believe LoZ whooped some ass, but the series contest was quite different. --- Proud Member of The Bonne Pirate Family and Creator of the Servbots! WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/10/2006 9:37:44 PM | message detail |
Nah, you'd have to be pretty dense to think that. This year hasn't
been any less accurate for x-stats than any other years, it's just that
some people seem to get jollies by wasting their time attacking math or
something. But that's the case every year, in like half the matches we
see ;) I don't mock the stats because they serve a good purpose --- extrapolation for the one contest they apply to. But the only thing they can predict almost perfectly are the trends of the one contest they're attached to. I start mocking things when people assume that years-old stats will have that same accuracy. They don't factor in everything. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
creativename | Posted 11/10/2006 9:37:46 PM | message detail |
www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb5/cb561-1.jpg Thanks a lot :) Regarding Samus/Tifa, one can barely find any shreds of evidence to support a FF12 effect, so that's pretty much dead. The main things are pic factor, and/or Tifa increasing in strength (the former being more sensible than the latter). --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/10/2006 9:38:13 PM | message detail |
From Blade Of Evils Bane There is no FFXII factor. Aeris and Yuna didn't do anywhere near enough for that to of been the reason for Samus/Tifa. Yuna did way better than expected, and Aeris was demolished before 3/4 of the 1.5 million games sold that week were actually picked up and played. TuRtLe ~~~ Pretty much out of the contest lol x-stats |
wavedash101 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:38:14 PM | message detail |
BT...Sephy is way closer to Cloud then he is to Mario...as show last year... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2006 9:39:30 PM | message detail |
Wow, let's not jump to conclusions here -- I agree, it's not a fair
comparison, but considering how I think SSB/M are both big for them and
that I think the SSB/M fanbase would favor Zelda over Samus...not to
mention that SSB/M's fanbase seems to really shine in after-school
hours (though tomorrow has no school)...I wanted something else to
compare with since I knew that wouldn't be fair enough. So, fine, how about Samus/Ganon? --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/10/2006 9:39:46 PM | message detail |
Then take one of the - between Cloud and Sephiroth and put it between Cloud and LInk TuRtLe ~~~ Pretty much out of the contest lol x-stats |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 9:40:18 PM | message detail |
I hope this isn't foreshadowing Cloud beating Link. <_< --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
creativename | Posted 11/10/2006 9:42:38 PM | message detail |
But the only thing they can predict almost perfectly are the trends of the one contest they're attached to. So...? It's pretty obvious that anyone mocking the stats is lamely tilting at windmills. Not one person thinks it's a perfect technique, except for people who like to think others do so they have some sorry excuse to throw negativity around. It's very pointless. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/10/2006 9:42:47 PM | message detail |
Wow, let's not jump to conclusions here -- I agree, it's not a fair
comparison, but considering how I think SSB/M are both big for them and
that I think the SSB/M fanbase would favor Zelda over Samus...not to
mention that SSB/M's fanbase seems to really shine in after-school
hours (though tomorrow has no school)...I wanted something else to
compare with since I knew that wouldn't be fair enough. You're completely wrong there. Zelda's enough to weaken Sheik's advantage over Samus in SSBM, and SSB is more than enough to counteract any advantage at all over Samus. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
Janus5000 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:43:14 PM | message detail |
The main things are pic factor, and/or Tifa increasing in strength (the former being more sensible than the latter). With Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II, I'd give Tifa plenty of room to boost - not necessarily enough to go 50/50 with Samus and beat Zelda comfortably, but it would easily be noticeable. Not sure if it's more than Zero **** Samus or not, though. And TuRtLe, I don't see how Yuna did much better than expected - she looked about as strong as Aeris and did about as well against a common opponent. >.> --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
Draco1214 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:43:25 PM | message detail |
I'd say the noble nine is placed like this: Link Cloud Strife Sephiroth Mario Samus Aran Solid Snake Sonic the Hedgehog Crono Mega Man Snake/Sonic is 50/50 for me. Could go either way, so I just put Snake higher out of sheer fanboyism <_< --- Currently Playing: Xenosaga Episode 3, Final Fantasy XII, Tales of the Abyss, King of Fighters 2002/2003 |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2006 9:44:29 PM | message detail |
Samus was well-liked in SSB and SSBM, yeah, but Zelda's favorite-status
in SSBM by both regular gamers and experts is enough for me to feel
like she does no worse than go even with Samus in the SSB/M fanbase. --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |
creativename | Posted 11/10/2006 9:44:45 PM | message detail |
With Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II, I'd give Tifa plenty of
room to boost - not necessarily enough to go 50/50 with Samus and beat
Zelda comfortably, but it would easily be noticeable. I should've said that it's more sensible to me. I think it was mostly the pic, but if someone thinks it was Tifa boosting I'm not going to debate it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/10/2006 9:45:31 PM | message detail |
So, fine, how about Samus/Ganon? Ganon took Samus from 61% to 59% hope this isn't foreshadowing Cloud beating Link. <_< I have no idea how you can even relate the two. --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
Janus5000 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:45:32 PM | message detail |
I'd say the Noble Nine looks something like this: Link Cloud Sephiroth Mario Samus/Sonic/Snake Crono Blue Bummer --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/10/2006 9:45:35 PM | message detail |
And TuRtLe, I don't see how Yuna did much better than expected - she looked about as strong as Aeris and did about as well against a common opponent. >.> Exactly! TuRtLe ~~~ Pretty much out of the contest lol x-stats |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/10/2006 9:46:23 PM | message detail |
And we'll see who's laughing when Snake scores 55% on Sonic TuRtLe ~~~ Pretty much out of the contest lol x-stats |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 9:47:05 PM | message detail |
I have no idea how you can even relate the two. Tifa performing as she did on Samus compared to Zelda, and Vincent beating Ganondorf. I'm expecting(and praying!) to be wrong, but I'm still a little paranoid. ;p --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
Janus5000 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:47:07 PM | message detail |
I thought you were just referring to the match with Zelda. I suppose FFXII would've been out before her match with Chun-Li, though. Still, she looked quite beastly in taking out worthless fodder... then again, so did Max Payne. <.< --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/10/2006 9:49:27 PM | message detail |
Tifa performing as she did on Samus compared to Zelda, and Vincent
beating Ganondorf. I'm expecting(and praying!) to be wrong, but I'm
still a little paranoid. ;p Tifa had a handicap that Zelda doesn't. She may have boosted, but there's no way she's up to that level, it's not even believable. And Vincent beating Ganondorf was primarily because of his new game, which makes sense to him to boost from. Cloud can boost from KH2, sure, but it won't be all that big and it's still just one day before Twilight Princess. --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
wavedash101 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:50:19 PM | message detail |
Link Cloud Sephy Mario Samus/Snake/Sonic Crono Mega Man That how I think the NN is as of now...Samus/Snake/Sonic will be decided soon though, then we should get a some what accurate tier... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 9:54:38 PM | message detail |
From MyWorldIsZelda Posted 11/11/2006 12:49:27 AM #223 Tifa had a handicap that Zelda doesn't. She may have boosted, but there's no way she's up to that level, it's not even believable. And Vincent beating Ganondorf was primarily because of his new game, which makes sense to him to boost from. Cloud can boost from KH2, sure, but it won't be all that big and it's still just one day before Twilight Princess. True as all of that is, I'd feel a lot better if the contest had a one day delay somewhere here... or if Sephiroth upsets Cloud in the Battle Royale.:=P --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
Janus5000 | Posted 11/10/2006 9:56:41 PM | message detail |
It'd be really awesome if Sephiroth upset both Cloud and Link. ...Or at least as awesome as a Sephiroth upset can be. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 9:58:28 PM | message detail |
Pshht! The only reason I'm cheering for Sephy to make it to the finals is that he'll make an easier meal for Link, baby! --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/10/2006 9:59:05 PM | message detail |
Personally, I like to think that Zelda/Aeris gives us a better idea what Link/Cloud will look like than anything else. <3 --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 9:59:53 PM | message detail |
A result like that in Link's favor would be sex. --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
creativename | Posted 11/10/2006 9:59:53 PM | message detail |
Another thing about the Battle Royale though is that any stuffing/rally
attempts would be highly leveraged. It would take a much smaller scale
effort to actually alter the round-by-round results. Also Ceej seems to be relying almost entirely on his vote filters now, so he probably won't do any sort of analysis like he did with Kefka/Vercetti. The BR should be fun, but I hope we never see it again. Seeing multiple one-on-one matches between these sorts of heavyweights would be even more fun. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Janus5000 | Posted 11/10/2006 10:00:14 PM | message detail |
Easier, maybe, but easy enough for Link? ...Probably. It'd still be awesome. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
Kaxon | Posted 11/10/2006 10:01:38 PM | message detail |
Pshht! The only reason I'm cheering for Sephy to make it to the finals is that he'll make an easier meal for Link, baby! *shakes head* I honestly don't understand how anyone can root for an easy Link victory after years of Link dominance. If you love Link that much fine, but at least hope for an exciting match. --- ....TCELES B HSUP |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 10:02:59 PM | message detail |
Isn't Sephiroth over Cloud exciting enough for you? ;) --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/10/2006 10:03:35 PM | message detail |
I find the idea of Link beating either of them with over 55% pretty damn exciting! ...But now I'm off to sleep with a tough day ahead of tomorrow! --- "My ambition is to create the coolest Link that's ever existed." -- Keisuke Nishimori, Twilight Princess |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/10/2006 10:03:38 PM | message detail |
I'm rooting for Mario myself. --- CB5 Points: 115/128, Current Oracle placement: 22/169 Now playing: Phoenix Wright 2, Final Fanasy XII, Children of Mana |
Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/10/2006 10:06:15 PM | message detail |
"I honestly don't understand how anyone can
root for an easy Link victory after years of Link dominance. If you
love Link that much fine, but at least hope for an exciting match." I'll get tired of seeing Link win when someone gets up to his level that isn't FF7. Cloud doesn't deserve it and the 2003 final sucked ass. >_> --- Can't think of a good sig. |
cade | Posted 11/10/2006 10:07:24 PM | message detail |
The casuals haven't taken over yet, a B8er is still #1 ;) I think Snake is looking good to win the overall bracket this year and finish 4th in the championship brawl thanks to Samus and Link leeching votes from Mario. --- Zone of the Enders 3 has been announced for PS3 CURRENT NUMBER 1 IN SC2k6!! |
TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/10/2006 10:08:24 PM | message detail |
Mario is not going out before Samus. --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
Big Bob | Posted 11/10/2006 10:09:35 PM | message detail |
Sonic just might be the most immune to SFF in that poll. While Link is
certainly the strongest Nintendo, Mario WILL be sucking a portion of
his votes away, and Cloud/Sephy will be dividing votes as well. If
Snake got in he could potentially be SFF'd by the FFVII boys. Go Sonic.. --- Gordon Freeman finally won, but somehow, the universe survived... thus allowing me to tell said universe about how I was owned by NClark128. |
Super Luigi | Posted 11/10/2006 10:09:55 PM | message detail |
This match is over with. I knew it wouldn't be that close. --- Currently playing : Gears of War(Xbox 360), Call of Duty 3(Xbox 360), NHL 2K7(Xbox 360). XBL GT - SuPeR MiKe 86 |
Chinballz | Posted 11/10/2006 10:15:52 PM | message detail |
I'd say it's now official that Tifa is way more popular than Aeris.
Unless Samus being suitless really did weaken her that much. And that the Nine wont be broken until Vincent or Tifa get ahold of Mega Man. --- And that's The Word. |
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/10/2006 10:16:05 PM | message detail |
MM still > Sonic, you'll all see when Snake owns him by 56+..... kidding --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
Haste_2 | Posted 11/10/2006 10:21:50 PM | message detail |
I say Samus underperformed heavily on Tifa, AND Tifa is way more popular than Aeris. ;) --- Antivote this petition, it sucks and would be wasting bandwidth: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
hacknslash001 | Posted 11/10/2006 10:28:36 PM | message detail |
damn...when i first made my bracket, i had snake>sonic in the finals. moral of the post: dont listen to board 8 --- GO TITANS! 1st overall pick here we come!!!!! Currently waiting for the nba season, Wii, and Zelda:TP |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/10/2006 10:31:39 PM | message detail |
From Haste_2 I say Samus underperformed heavily on Tifa, AND Tifa is way more popular than Aeris. ;) I'd rather say Tifa performed to ungodly proportions against Samus and is STILL way more popular than Aeris TuRtLe ~~~ Pretty much out of the contest lol x-stats |
transience | Posted 11/10/2006 10:55:55 PM | message detail |
looks like Samus = Sonic, Crono, etc - I've been pretty firm in placing
Zelda at 35%, and if there's no SFF that's about where Samus will end
up. I'm thinking she'll be the underdog on the board against the male
champion, and maybe rightly so. I'm in awe of that leaderboard. I've never seen something so ****ed up in my life and we haven't even hit the BR yet. something really funky is going to happen there and no one knows what, so that thing could have some -15's or something on it by the end of the contest. for this contest being "extremely predictable", I'd say everyone is getting served. --- xyzzy |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/10/2006 10:58:05 PM | message detail |
-15's....how about -35s? >____________> --- CB5 Points: 115/128, Current Oracle placement: 22/169 Now playing: Phoenix Wright 2, Final Fanasy XII, Children of Mana |
creativename | Posted 11/10/2006 11:04:23 PM | message detail |
Seeing Crono lose was almost worth it just for this. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=31678949 --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Gaddswell | Posted 11/10/2006 11:07:35 PM | message detail |
Seeing Crono lose was almost worth it just for this. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=31678949 I know. Some of these high grounds have some real good stuff in them. --- By the time we localize the programs, kids don’t even know they’re from Japan any more. - 4Kids CEO Al Kahn |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2006 11:18:43 PM | message detail |
MC/Sub-Zero is awesome. --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |