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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 422

dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 10:30:09 PM | message detail
And Sonic is hardly Master Chief. He swung a net of 325 votes against Mega Man last year (1075 down to 0 back up to 750), which doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

True. I don't like this match being over so quickly any more then everyone else... but this is over. Crono hasn't even hit his peak yet (that comes in another hour or so), and sonic is at his lowest around the same time.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 10:32:38 PM | message detail
Scratch that, 1075 -> 250 -> 750, same net; Sonic actually took the lead during the night, not during his day vote comeback. That's what I get for sorting, not actually looking through the match!

Heh, it's still not looking good for sonic. Even if we were dealing with master chief here, I still wouldn't give him a chance in hell of coming back. By the time the after school vote hits Crono's lead will be way too high for anyone to overcome.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:34:38 PM | message detail
If tranny's projection is correct, a 2700 vote comeback is very possible. We've already seen a 2400 vote comeback that ended 7 votes short, and that was when vote totals were MUCH lower. Crono should probably be the favorite at this point, but it's far from over.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 10:36:28 PM | message detail
Awesome update for Sonic! :)
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2006 10:36:28 PM | message detail
Static Votes (Votes that a character will get no matter who the oponent) will be very essential in the early stages of the battle royale.

And this is why Sizzeph is gonna pizzown Clizzoud.

I am far too white to ever to that again.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:37:10 PM | message detail
Heh, it's still not looking good for sonic. Even if we were dealing with master chief here, I still wouldn't give him a chance in hell of coming back. By the time the after school vote hits Crono's lead will be way too high for anyone to overcome.

Sonic doesn't have to wait until the afterschool vote... he will benefit from the morning vote. Yes, Crono will regain a little ground with the during-school vote, but that's not as big as the morning vote.
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Xuxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:37:16 PM | message detail
Sonic should do well between the morning and after-school vote, don't forget. Also, Crono hit his peak very quickly against Auron (2am exactly) if that means anything. True, Sonic doesn't have very good chances. But if Crono has already peaked and shrinks a tiny bit in percentage from now until the morning, I don't think 2700 is too much to overcome and in fact would expect it.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 10:37:19 PM | message detail
it'll probably be closer to 3000 since Crono should theoretically pick up some steam when the overnight vote hits. Sonic's got just about no hope here, but I wouldn't say it's 100% certain that Crono wins this. not yet. let's see if Crono completely falls apart like he did on Bowser - you know, the same Bowser that went even with Leon Kennedy and lost to Kirby big in the daytime.
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andaca | Posted 11/9/2006 10:37:41 PM | message detail
Yeah, but that's a 2700 vote differential at 7:00. Sonic isn't likely to even begin to make any real headway until the school vote hits much later, at which point we're going to be looking at a four of five thousand vote deficit.
transience | Posted 11/9/2006 10:39:17 PM | message detail
eh, Crono lost some percentage against CF during the school hours. while it sometimes functions as a second night vote, it doesn't always work that way.
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Xuxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:41:35 PM | message detail
He won't make any headway votes-wise, but if he's at 2700 at 7am, he should at the very least keep things at the same differential and in fact I'd expect it to drop some before 2:30.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/9/2006 10:43:21 PM | message detail
eh, Crono lost some percentage against CF during the school hours. while it sometimes functions as a second night vote, it doesn't always work that way.

Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to cut percentage than it is to cut votes. Auron did around 4% worse during school than after, yet he was still able to reduce Crono's percentage. That won't work quite so well for Sonic.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/9/2006 10:43:50 PM | message detail
Sonic doesn't have to wait until the afterschool vote... he will benefit from the morning vote. Yes, Crono will regain a little ground with the during-school vote, but that's not as big as the morning vote.

That's not really true. Votals/15 minute from a bit after 8 to a bit before 3 are generally around the same numberj on school days, so it depends on how much of that time you want to classify as morning vs after school. If you give me a minute, I'll make a handy chart.
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Xuxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:45:53 PM | message detail
Morning is sort of ambiguous... sometimes there is no shift until nearly noon, sometimes it's before 10am.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:46:53 PM | message detail
What matters is what Sonic can do in the morning... I fully expect Crono's lead to be growing during school hours, but Sonic may cut off more in the morning than Crono adds in the middle of the day.
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2006 10:47:25 PM | message detail
that was one big update for crono
Kaxon | Posted 11/9/2006 10:48:27 PM | message detail
Oh well... I'm hoping to see Crono win it (although it will mean my doom in the Oracle Challenge)... but he's disappointed me so many times before I'm not ready to hand it to him yet.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 10:50:51 PM | message detail
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Posted 11/9/2006 6:15:38 PM
message detail If Crono takes the day vote over Sonic, I'm going to play through Chrono Trigger on PSX, using an Playstation emulator.

Oh the horror.


Sonic better take the dayvote.........
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 10:53:18 PM | message detail
Those fmv's were nice and all from what I played of it, but I never finished CT on playstation. It just seemed pointless given the annoying load times. My playstation seemed slightly slower then usual at loading... but that was something else. I was literally waiting through minutes long load times between battles sometimes. There is no excuse for a super nintendo game to run so terribly on a playstation.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/9/2006 10:54:19 PM | message detail
Votals by the hour, from Snake/Mega Man:

00:00 | 3471
23:00 | 4203
22:00 | 4951
21:00 | 5312
20:00 | 5992
19:00 | 6713
18:00 | 7016
17:00 | 7107
16:00 | 6779
15:00 | 5604
14:00 | 5217
13:00 | 5377
12:00 | 5706
11:00 | 5647
10:00 | 5185
09:00 | 4970
08:00 | 4270
07:00 | 3352
06:00 | 2356
05:00 | 2546
04:00 | 3427
03:00 | 4640
02:00 | 6806
01:00 | 9452

As with my percent by the hour, the left column should be viewed as "from the previous hour up to XX:00," exclusive.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 10:54:37 PM | message detail
I don't mind playing CT on playstation as long as I'm not trying to access the menu. that's just painful.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 10:55:27 PM | message detail
From transience
eh, Crono lost some percentage against CF during the school hours. while it sometimes functions as a second night vote, it doesn't always work that way.

Isn't the school hours the "european vote"? Because if it is, Crono might get screwed by it <_<

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Keno316 | Posted 11/9/2006 10:57:14 PM | message detail
Isn't the school hours the "european vote"? Because if it is, Crono might get screwed by it <_<

The European vote should be right now...
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 10:59:19 PM | message detail
The largest comeback came from under a 2500 vote defecit, correct? By morning crono's should be at least a few hundred votes over 2500.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 10:59:23 PM | message detail
And like I said earlier, I won't count Sonic out unless Crono is up by 10,000 in the morning. I fully expect this match to be one of the biggest swings. Hardcore favourite vs icon? Night vote champ vs king of the day vote (that actually has strength)?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 11:00:17 PM | message detail
From dragoontheguy
The largest comeback came from under a 2500 vote defecit, correct? By morning crono's should be at least a few hundred votes over 2500.

MC was down 2500 against DK, but he ended up winning with over 1000 IIRC, so he technically swung ~3500 votes if memory serves.

TuRtLe
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:00:22 PM | message detail
Sonic is going to chose and LOSE the day vote to Crono. BOOK IT!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:00:29 PM | message detail
Choke, even.
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:08 PM | message detail
Sonic wins an update.

WHERE IS YOUR VAMPIRIC PLAN POWER NOW CRONO
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:13 PM | message detail
Oh yeah!
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:15 PM | message detail
And like I said earlier, I won't count Sonic out unless Crono is up by 10,000 in the morning.

Sonic doesn't just have to start winning updates, he has to swing the percentage by a huge amount to do so during the morning. It requires such a big swing, that if he even starts winningu pdates constantly at all, it won't be by much.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:30 PM | message detail
hey, Sonic won an update.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:32 PM | message detail
Sonic Comeback = Confirmed.
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Keno316 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:38 PM | message detail
And Sonic wins back.....all of 1 vote....
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:51 PM | message detail
oh mans, corno is doomed
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 11:02:13 PM | message detail
Speaking of winning updates, did Megaman win one?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:02:32 PM | message detail
Two, I think.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:02:55 PM | message detail
Yes, Mega Man won only one.
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Keno316 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:12 PM | message detail
Two, I think.

Nope. 1.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:15 PM | message detail
GO SONIC GO!

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janembaman | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:35 PM | message detail
Megaman won one update,near the end of the match
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dragoontheguy | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:36 PM | message detail
MC was down 2500 against DK, but he ended up winning with over 1000 IIRC, so he technically swung ~3500 votes if memory serves.

It doesn't work that way though. You need to factor in how much the voting patterns have to swing. Basically if mc was behind by 3500 votes, his comeback wouldn't have been enough to win because the vote swing wouldn't have been large enough.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:41 PM | message detail
Crono's percentage by hour:

01:00 - 54.59%
02:00 - 53.70%

not much of a dropoff, but maybe the Nintendo hour did indeed help Crono out.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 11:03:44 PM | message detail
I'll call this right now, Sonic will swing at tonne of votes tomorrow, putting this match on the biggest vote swing list.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:04:33 PM | message detail
I just checked, Mega Man won at least 2.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 11:04:44 PM | message detail
And wouldn't it be a riot if in the end, Sonic/Mega Man are equal in the stats still?

I also hate what this is doing to poor Zero ;___;

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/9/2006 11:05:56 PM | message detail
And after a quick look, seems as though Mega Man won about 7 or 8 updates

TuRtLe
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:06:06 PM | message detail
Mega Man ended up winning... 7 updates.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/9/2006 11:06:08 PM | message detail
Mega Man won a total of 7 updates I believe.
transience | Posted 11/9/2006 11:06:20 PM | message detail
heh, there goes that.

anyway, I'm going to bed before the Sonic posse wakes up. night everyone!
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