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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 421

__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2006 10:12:59 AM | message detail
uh...*starting*
LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 10:14:00 AM | message detail
If somebody is lower than Mega Man in the Noble Nine after this, I'll be stunned. He probably won't even be #9 in the stats, actually.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:14:21 AM | message detail
Mega Man's going to keep on sucking for another two hours, we're back in a mini-night vote situation here. But when 3:00 comes, he's got to make his push for saving face then and there. If he can't swing at least a point on Solid ****ing Snake, it'll be humiliating.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:15:29 AM | message detail
Unless Samus really just dropped off a ton this year, there's no way Mega Man's in the top nine. Whether you think it's legitimate or not is one thing, but Tifa outranking him is virtually assured.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/9/2006 10:15:34 AM | message detail
well does this officialy make megaman the bottom of the noble nine?

Unless he makes an attempt to make this somewhat respectable with the after school vote, he'll probably won't even end up being in the Noble Nine as far as stats go.

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Master Moltar | Posted 11/9/2006 10:24:40 AM | message detail
Woah, Snake is even higher than when I left this morning. Amazing.

Damn Mega Man, what in the hell happened to you?
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 10:28:41 AM | message detail
If Luigi 2005 = Luigi 2006, Sonic is at 39.34% on BL, meaning he gets 49.34% on Crono 2005.

If Vincent = Auron, Crono defeats Sonic with 52.52%.

If Ganondorf = Auron, Sonic defeats Crono with 50.08%.

If Luigi = Bowser, Sonic defeats Crono with 53.23%.

If Vincent 2005 = Vincent 2006, Crono defeats Sonic with 53.45%.

In other words, if somebody here wins with more than 53% tomorrow, I'll be surprised.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/9/2006 10:33:45 AM | message detail
Heh, all Tifa needs is a small boost from KH2/AC, and Samus still looks better than Mega Man. People are willing to accept Tifa = Vincent 2k5 as a proper adjustment, right?
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/9/2006 10:34:16 AM | message detail
Remember when I said that Snake would win the male bracket 2 months ago, and you guys all started having x-stat seizures?

Yeah, well. You guys keep finding new ways of humiliating yourselves. After the Samus/Tifa posts that were made, I think even Ulti is embarrassed being associated with this clique.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/9/2006 10:35:25 AM | message detail
Yikes. I'd have to consider Snake the favourite to win the main bracket at this point, which would just be crazy considering he's been the weaker Noble Niner since 2k2 (with one exception - 2k3). And if he gets into the Battle Royale...well, we'd miss our chance to see if Crono could withstand SFF, but seeing if Snake could would be just as interesting, I'd say.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/9/2006 10:40:06 AM | message detail
I'd have to consider Snake the favourite to win the main bracket at this point, which would just be crazy considering he's been the weaker Noble Niner since 2k2 (with one exception - 2k3).

I don't know about that. I think it's likely that he was stronger than Sonic and Samus in 2k2.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 10:41:43 AM | message detail
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dethfdddddh | Posted 11/9/2006 10:42:08 AM | message detail
47% on 2k2 Seph>47% on an overrated Crono thanks to many of his cheating votes being counted.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 10:42:31 AM | message detail
XD wrong topic :/

I wonder how low Megaman can go :(
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FourthDeus | Posted 11/9/2006 10:43:29 AM | message detail
Sonic, you see what Snake is doing here? You must do the same to that mute punk tomorrow! You and Snake are upset brothers! FOR JUSTICE!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 10:43:50 AM | message detail
People are willing to accept Tifa = Vincent 2k5 as a proper adjustment, right?

Why?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:44:19 AM | message detail
Even if you remove 3000 votes or so from Crono (which is how many Ceej implied there were, I believe), that doesn't make Crono or Snake move much at all in the stats. If Mario was higher than Sephiroth by any notable margin in 2002, Snake had a good chance at being stronger than Samus and Sonic.

And honestly, I believe it. I've typically considered 2002 to be Snake's strongest year (well, outside of this one now I guess, holy ****).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:46:15 AM | message detail
Eh, Tifa moving up two points (meaning she equals Vincent 2k5) seems like a good adjustment, at least as a floor value. She had AC and KH2, and let's not forget it was her debut in the latter. 2 points is a modest growth, all things considering.

And yeah, that definitely puts her over most estimations for Mega Man that don't involve Snake becoming a complete monster.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/9/2006 10:46:44 AM | message detail
Why?

Because a 2% boost for Tifa from KH2 and AC is pretty reasonable? I admit, it could certainly more, but I'm trying to set something acceptable.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 11/9/2006 10:47:49 AM | message detail
It was always really hard for me to imagine 2k5 Snake as being his strongest year prior to 2k6 due to that match with Bowser...
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/9/2006 10:48:06 AM | message detail
Being equal to Vincent 2k5 is a pretty good adjustment, I think.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 10:48:40 AM | message detail
Oh nevermind, I read that as saying you thought she should be equal to Vincent now.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:49:46 AM | message detail
It was always really hard for me to imagine 2k5 Snake as being his strongest year prior to 2k6 due to that match with Bowser...

Now, let's not get out of hand -- 2005 is almost certainly Snake's second strongest year, and I only really argue for 2002 because of the possibility that Mario was SFFed.

The Bowser match isn't exactly a good argument. Crono proves he was overrated, and Snake looked damn good in all his other matches.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 10:52:07 AM | message detail
Can't believe I forgot the most important "What if?" Sonic/Crono scenario!

If Ganondorf = Bowser, Crono defeats Sonic with 53.16%.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/9/2006 10:53:11 AM | message detail
Remember when I said that Snake would win the male bracket 2 months ago, and you guys all started having x-stat seizures?

Yeah, well. You guys keep finding new ways of humiliating yourselves. After the Samus/Tifa posts that were made, I think even Ulti is embarrassed being associated with this clique.


1) You present the most god-damned ignorant arguements to date (KOS-MOS/Amy) and get arrogant when you're right (today) while ignoring when you're wrong (Shadow's an elite), it's no wonder people want you out of these topics.
2) Most of us realized Solid Snake had a small chance, but Mega Man was rightfully the favorite before the bracket was locked. Your upset pulled out and most of us are happy Solid's winning, and you're still managing to be the worst part of the occasion.
3) Ulti still makes it a point to make as many of the topics as he can -- super-early at that -- so I don't think he's nearly as embarrassed as he lets on.
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/9/2006 10:55:31 AM | message detail
I am going to take a nap. I expect to see Snake winning the after-school vote when I wake up.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/9/2006 10:57:42 AM | message detail
Har, take your head out of your ass for a moment.

Predicting that a character who has never been in a contest before could upset a lower midcarder like KOS-MOS is in no way ignorant of any facts, specifically because there are none involving Amy.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 10:58:56 AM | message detail
It kinda is when it's Amy Rose.

My God, I just realized we spent an entire day watching KOS-MOS v. Amy Rose. WHAT THE CRUNK FEMALE BRACKET
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 10:59:52 AM | message detail
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 11:00:50 AM | message detail
Hey, Amy Rose ranks in the top half of that half of the female bracket! That's better than I ever would've expected!
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/9/2006 11:01:34 AM | message detail
Stupid female bracket!

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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/9/2006 11:15:15 AM | message detail
If Ganondorf = Auron, Sonic defeats Crono with 50.08%.

If Luigi = Bowser, Sonic defeats Crono with 53.23%.


Those two seem most likely to me. Go Sonic!
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voltch | Posted 11/9/2006 11:18:51 AM | message detail
vincent/tifa/ganondorf/bowser>megaman then?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 11:20:15 AM | message detail
Bowser? No. Snake won't stay this high.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 11/9/2006 11:22:00 AM | message detail
...Heh, and MM had ZX as well....
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FourthDeus | Posted 11/9/2006 11:25:13 AM | message detail
Ganondorf> Auron
Sonic> Crono
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 11:25:54 AM | message detail
Mega Man needs actual, real releases. Things that people can actually get excited for. Say what you will about Sonic's next-gen offerings, but the fact is they're making an attempt, and it shows in the big-budget advertising and hype.

Mega Man ZX was always going to be worth nothing, because it had nothing to offer. Capcom needs to get their head out of their ass with the MM rehashes, because the potential for a resurgence is there. It's just untapped.
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Lopen | Posted 11/9/2006 11:31:43 AM | message detail
Well, I at least hope this puts to rest the whole "X won last time, I can't see Y swinging that %" argument I've seen time and time again.

Seriously, this is like a 14% swing in Snake's favor over the course of two years. It's ridiculous.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/9/2006 11:32:47 AM | message detail
Damn, how can this happen to a character as awesome as Mega Man. :(
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LeonhartForever | Posted 11/9/2006 11:33:16 AM | message detail
Because he's facing someone even more awesome in Solid Snake.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 11:38:12 AM | message detail
The lead is over 9000
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/9/2006 11:48:20 AM | message detail
Wow. 14 hours and Megaman has still not won a single 5-minute update. And... this is the second time Megaman has failed to match Bowser's percentage on a common opponent. Maybe Bowser really is stronger than MM now?
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Lopen | Posted 11/9/2006 11:51:51 AM | message detail
Let's not jump to conclusions. Don't forget Mega Man doing a good 6% better on Crono than Bowser did.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 11:53:40 AM | message detail
Well, I hardly think anyone's arguing that Bowser's on par with Mega 2k5...it's Mega 2k6 who has just stunk up the joint in every match he's been in.

Bowser won't be on par with MM this year (OV-ER-A-TED! *claps*) but they could be quite close in the stats, especially if Snake continues his streak and wins the main bracket.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/9/2006 11:54:22 AM | message detail
Zylo, what did the scouter say about Snake's lead? ¬_¬
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 11:54:39 AM | message detail
Wait, I thought of that wrong. The worse Snake does, the better MM and Bowser are.

uh MM > Bowser with 55%
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/9/2006 11:55:41 AM | message detail
When Sonic 55's Snake, I don't think the stats will be forgiving to MM.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 11:56:21 AM | message detail
*closer they are, rather. damn it all

And the afterschool vote is upon us! Time to take my leave now, as watching Snake go through a good few hours of being significantly less impressive here is not something I need to see. Adieu!
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/9/2006 11:58:17 AM | message detail
MM won't take the day vote. No way.
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SubLibz4 | Posted 11/9/2006 12:04:37 PM | message detail
Sonic vs. Crono has the potential to be what Mega Man vs. Solid Snake was supposed to be.
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