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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 421

AmazingKirby | Posted 11/9/2006 7:33:00 AM | message detail
This match is totally due to an IGN influx. <_<
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:34:08 AM | message detail
So...assuming Snake finishes in the 54-55% range, what do you think his chances are of beating Sonic/Crono?

Damn good, my friend. In another note, this is making Squall look extremely good. If there was any SFF in that second round match (or hell, even if there wasn't at this point), Mega Man/Squall would be pretty damn interesting.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:36:19 AM | message detail
This match is totally due to an IGN influx. <_<

IGN influx?????????????/
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:38:04 AM | message detail
zwong, I've never realized how awesome your user name is. It almost seems like it could replace "pwned" or something.

Snake with 56%?! Mega Man fans = ZWONGED!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/9/2006 7:38:38 AM | message detail
Yeah, but this match IS making me wonder if Snake/Squall was legit and Snake is just a beast.

...Can't see Yoshi beating Squall though, especially considering it would probably put him over Bowser.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:40:59 AM | message detail
zwong, I've never realized how awesome your user name is. It almost seems like it could replace "pwned" or something.

Snake with 56%?! Mega Man fans = ZWONGED!


Thanks bro, that is one of the best praise i had ever received.


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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:41:58 AM | message detail
Yeah, but this match IS making me wonder if Snake/Squall was legit and Snake is just a beast.

...Can't see Yoshi beating Squall though, especially considering it would probably put him over Bowser


You forgot Yoshi is facing Sprite Snake.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 7:44:14 AM | message detail
Heh, it's like every time Mega Man pushes up to 44.05%, Snake pulls a 60% update to get back to 55/45.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 7:58:09 AM | message detail
Female Bracket Lower Half

Princess Zelda – 50.00%
Aeris Gainsborough – 43.13%
Yuna – 42.98%
Chun-Li – 33.66%
KOS-MOS – 33.08%
Lara Croft – 29.93%
Marle – 26.07%
Amy Rose – 22.87%
Kasumi – 21.04%
Terra Branford – 20.55%
Joanna Dark – 18.87%
Roll – 17.79%
Sarah Kerrigan – 16.98%
Cortana – 15.01%
Carmen Sandiego – 13.92%
Alyx Vance – 13.44%

Male Bracket Upper Half

Solid Snake – 50.00%
Mega Man – 45.00%
Yoshi – 42.84%
Squall Leonhart – 42.41%
Dante Sparda – 42.37%
Sora – 41.15%
Riku – 38.38%
Ryu – 37.76%
Kratos – 32.39%
Gordon Freeman – 29.68%
Ryu Hayabusa – 29.49%
Axel – 27.12%
Phoenix Wright – 24.82%
Tidus – 23.73%
Tingle – 20.07%
Soma Cruz – 17.85%


Overall stats in the next post.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 7:59:59 AM | message detail
Samus Aran – 41.69%
Tifa Lockhart – 41.28%
Solid Snake – 39.50%
Mega Man – 35.55%
Princess Zelda – 34.98%
Yoshi – 33.84%
Squall Leonhart – 33.50%
Dante Sparda – 33.47%
Sora – 32.51%
Riku – 30.32%
Aeris Gainsborough – 30.17%
Yuna – 30.07%
Ryu – 29.83%
Princess Peach – 28.03%
Jill Valentine – 28.02%
Rikku – 25.85%
Kratos – 25.59%
Chun-Li – 23.55%
Gordon Freeman – 23.45%
Ryu Hayabusa – 23.30%
KOS-MOS – 23.14%
Kairi – 21.57%
Axel – 21.42%
Sheena Fujibayashi – 21.28%
The Boss – 21.01%
Lara Croft – 20.94%
Claire Redfield – 20.67%
Ivy Valentine – 19.67%
Phoenix Wright – 19.60%
Tidus – 18.75%
Marle – 18.23%
Ada Wong – 16.86%
Celes Chere – 16.36%
Amy Rose – 16.00%
Tingle – 15.86%
Nidoran F – 15.13%
Kasumi – 14.72%
Terra Branford – 14.38%
Soma Cruz – 14.10%
Joanna Dark – 13.20%
Lenneth Valkyrie – 12.93%
Roll – 12.45%
Sarah Kerrigan – 11.88%
Cortana – 10.50%
Carmen Sandiego – 9.74%
Princess Daisy – 9.47%
Alyx Vance – 9.40%
Jade – 8.13%


Odd how my precontest projections for Sora had him at 32%. Looks like I won't be far off unless Snake is much stronger or Mega Man is much weaker. Note that the better that Mega Man does, the closer Riku gets to Sora. I think that should dispell the whole "FFXII Influx made Sora overperform!" stuff.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/9/2006 8:03:04 AM | message detail
You forgot Yoshi is facing Sprite Snake.

Samus/Tifa be damned, I'm not completely recanting. The voters aren't that stupid. They don't have selective vision; it was clearly that same old, ugly Snake everyone knows and loves in the backround. You step on personal territory when you try and take down Yoshi!

go snake! Avenge Zelda-being-shot-in-the-head-by-mega-man-in-the-most-biased-picture-ever!
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 8:05:27 AM | message detail
FastFalcon05, just answer this question. Assuming there are 5-8% of the voters who do not know who Snake or Yoshi are, who will they vote for. I think there are a poll on board 8 asking user to vote on character based on picture. The results are Snake:3 Yoshi: 32
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2006 8:09:53 AM | message detail
lol @ megaman

Vincent would easily beat him this year.and tifa too.and maybe even Auron and Squall >_>


seriously,this is ridiculous.megaman didn't win even one single update yet.
XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:12:40 AM | message detail
Sheena Fujibayashi – 21.28%
The Boss – 21.01%


LOL @ this.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/9/2006 8:16:05 AM | message detail
Sora – 32.51%
Riku – 30.32%

Kairi – 21.57%
Axel – 21.42%

Interesting. We want a favorite KH character poll!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:16:46 AM | message detail
Though admittedly The Boss looks awesome after what Tifa did to Samus...but Tifa/Boss was blatant SFF, and it's fairly obvious that Boss is worth a good 4 or 5% more on Tifa.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 8:17:29 AM | message detail
Whatever you say XIII, it's not like we will see The Boss in another contest ;)
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:19:41 AM | message detail
XD @ Lara, by the way. Her > Marle and Claire...that's awesome. And basically gives a V sign to that fourpack on HaRRicH's board.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:21:49 AM | message detail
Whatever you say XIII, it's not like we will see The Boss in another contest ;)

Of course we ****ing will. She has most of the MGS3 fanvotes behind her, and has now been played by the majority of anyone who ever will. She's here to stay. Especially as she slaughtered an FF lead.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:22:33 AM | message detail
Oh and Zylo, bitter that MM is losing, or...?
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/9/2006 8:23:15 AM | message detail
My bracket says Snake>MM/Sonic/Crono. But have him loosing to Samus. DAMN i should of picked Snake over Samus.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 8:25:22 AM | message detail
...I really couldn't imagine The Boss coming back if we don't have another female bracket next year (and we'd better not). She only managed a 4 seed despite how much that system favored her...there's no one else around that seeding level that I could see make a regular contest without significant rallying, and this board has a tendency to drop characters after they are perceived to bomb. Even if it's suspected to be SFF -- look at what happened to Liquid after the Villains Contest!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:29:07 AM | message detail
My bracket says Snake>MM/Sonic/Crono. But have him loosing to Samus. DAMN i should of picked Snake over Samus.

Oh come on. Snake > Samus just reeks of BS to me...What Tifa did to Samus was down to the obvious factors that have been talked about over and over (KHII, FFXII, AC, ZSS). Suited Samus is the strongest character here, and will get around 53% on Sonic/Crono/Snake.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 8:30:22 AM | message detail
Oh come on. Snake > Samus just reeks of BS to me...What Tifa did to Samus was down to the obvious factors that have been talked about over and over (KHII, FFXII, AC, ZSS). Suited Samus is the strongest character here, and will get around 53% on Sonic/Crono/Snake.

53% on Snake, you mean the Snake who got 56% on Mega Man.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/9/2006 8:31:02 AM | message detail
I don't expect to see The Boss in another contest. I expect to see Raiden back in again before Boss makes another appearance.
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/9/2006 8:31:20 AM | message detail
From XIII_rocks
My bracket says Snake>MM/Sonic/Crono. But have him loosing to Samus. DAMN i should of picked Snake over Samus.

Oh come on. Snake > Samus just reeks of BS to me...What Tifa did to Samus was down to the obvious factors that have been talked about over and over (KHII, FFXII, AC, ZSS). Suited Samus is the strongest character here, and will get around 53% on Sonic/Crono/Snake.


If FFXII is a factor, Crono > Samus is a lock.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 8:31:51 AM | message detail
Oh and Zylo, bitter that MM is losing, or...?


Nah while Megaman is my second favourite character, Snake is also in my top 5 ^_^ And to be honest, Snake is a much better character to have in the battle royale than MM.

I'm just teasing with you :P
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2006 8:33:28 AM | message detail
Someone who almost gets beat by tifa has no chance in hell agaisnt Crono/Sonic/Snake


Megaman and Samus are just too weak this year.
XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:35:33 AM | message detail
...I really couldn't imagine The Boss coming back if we don't have another female bracket next year (and we'd better not). She only managed a 4 seed despite how much that system favored her...there's no one else around that seeding level that I could see make a regular contest without significant rallying, and this board has a tendency to drop characters after they are perceived to bomb. Even if it's suspected to be SFF -- look at what happened to Liquid after the Villains Contest!

Liquid is coming back next year as well, as is Boss IMO. You're right, it is suspected to be SFF. Anybody with half a brain cell knows that her performance on Tifa is nowhere near legit, while her performance on Celes definitely was. People will remember what she did in a debatable match (why it was debatable I'll never know) when they come to vote next year. She's not as underrated in the stats as she would have been - Tifa's performance makes up for that - but she is still marginally underrated, and thus would give Axel a match.

Now that is something worth nominating. She'd be a good wildcard with the right seeding.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:37:33 AM | message detail
If FFXII is a factor, Crono > Samus is a lock.

Not really. FFXII is going to affect FF characters considerably more than the mute protagonist of a 10-year-old game. He'll get barely anything from FFXII.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:38:49 AM | message detail
53% on Snake, you mean the Snake who got 56% on Mega Man.

Yeah. MM dropped.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 8:38:53 AM | message detail
Mega Man almost won a couple of updates, and then Snake is pushing back to 56% again.
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Not_1 | Posted 11/9/2006 8:39:10 AM | message detail
I'm beginning to suspect that Snake can win the entire bracket. 56% on Mega Man is VERY impressive.
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consolefreak | Posted 11/9/2006 8:40:02 AM | message detail
Note that the better that Mega Man does, the closer Riku gets to Sora. I think that should dispell the whole "FFXII Influx made Sora overperform!" stuff.

Wouldn't it be the other way around? I'm assuming Snake's Xstat remains the same whether he wins with 51% or 60%. The closer MM gets, the stronger he gets, and the stronger Sora gets. No? Unless you worked those stats the other way around.
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Who Cares? | Posted 11/9/2006 8:40:26 AM | message detail
The Boss won't be back in a 'normal' bracket! Raiden & Liquid need another shot far more than The Boss does.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 8:40:29 AM | message detail
Yeah, Mega Man dropped, but there is no doubt that Snake is noticeably stronger as well, unless you want to put the Blue Bomber on the level of 2005 Dante and Knuckles.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:40:41 AM | message detail
Someone who almost gets beat by tifa has no chance in hell agaisnt Crono/Sonic/Snake

The hell are you saying?! o_O It's not like Tifa was ever weak, and she's FAR stronger this year. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said 53%+, but she's not losing by any stretch.
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eclipsedv1 | Posted 11/9/2006 8:41:02 AM | message detail
Final Fantasy does not affect anything other than Final Fantasy. Chrono is a separate entity.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 11/9/2006 8:41:19 AM | message detail
Er...right, nevermind. Yeah, the other way around. Either way, Riku being THIS close to Sora in the first place should tell you that he probably didn't overperform on Mega Man.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 8:42:01 AM | message detail
Snake is just doing amazingly here. If the Bowser and Sora matches from last year are any indication, Mega Man shouldn't swing him any more than a point or so with the afterschool vote. 54% is likely his absolute floor, and 55% seems very realistic now.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 8:42:49 AM | message detail
Remember, Riku/Yoshi came right off the release of KH2 in Europe! <_<
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:43:43 AM | message detail
Yeah, Mega Man dropped, but there is no doubt that Snake is noticeably stronger as well, unless you want to put the Blue Bomber on the level of 2005 Dante and Knuckles.

...Duh?

The Boss won't be back in a 'normal' bracket! Raiden & Liquid need another shot far more than The Boss does.

All 3 are behind SFF (and a total lack of transivity in Liquid's case). I'd like to see all 3 in the contest next year if we get one, though Boss would be the first on my sheet purely because of massive personal bias.
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consolefreak | Posted 11/9/2006 8:44:15 AM | message detail
Er...right, nevermind. Yeah, the other way around. Either way, Riku being THIS close to Sora in the first place should tell you that he probably didn't overperform on Mega Man.

It's likely that Yoshi overperformed some on Snake, with the whole sprite stuff.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:45:36 AM | message detail
Oh, this

1 Sora

4 Ganondorf (next year; this year, I'd struggle far more)

3 Squall Leonhart

7 Vincent Valentine.


Ganon

Vincent

Ganon
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SONICBETTASAMUS | Posted 11/9/2006 8:47:32 AM | message detail
I'd seriously take CATS over the Boss. Maybe Tingle too.
XIII_rocks | Posted 11/9/2006 8:49:56 AM | message detail
I'd seriously take CATS over the Boss. Maybe Tingle too.

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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2006 8:50:47 AM | message detail
The hell are you saying?! o_O It's not like Tifa was ever weak, and she's FAR stronger this year. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said 53%+, but she's not losing by any stretch.

you don't realy think Tifa is as strong as Crono do you? She's most likely around Auron's level.

samus is just weaker this year.why is it that hard to see?
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 8:51:28 AM | message detail
Also, I will now assume that Ryu and Rikku maintain the same proportion they did in 2005!

Based on Snake's current percentage, Rikku gets 32.67% on him. That's only about a point and a half worse than Samus did, and doing that makes Mega Man look absolutely pathetic.

I don't know about you guys but I'm taking Snake over Samus after MGS4 and SSBB. <_<
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