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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 421

transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:59:53 PM | message detail
I think that's pretty much a fact, one we knew before this match even happened. (2k2 aside, no idea what's up with him there.) the question is how much - some people would have you believe he's worth 40, 41% on BL, which is possible but really improbable.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 11/8/2006 11:00:41 PM | message detail
Did Sonic have anything between 2k4 and 2k5 that could've caused a rebound? Was Sonic Rush released in that time frame? Snake's rebound came due to MGS 3.....but will Megaman have anything to help him jump back?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/8/2006 11:00:41 PM | message detail
The pictures certainly haven't been kind to Megaman this year though. Not one single badass pic or even him firing his arm cannon!
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 11/8/2006 11:02:20 PM | message detail
No way Yoshi beats Squall.


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Haste_2 | Posted 11/8/2006 11:27:27 PM | message detail
For the fun of it...using least squares and using the most recent values of Samus, Rikku, Tifa, and Jill Valentine, Samus is pegged at 37.75%. That's even worse than trying to make x-stats for Sp2K5, though. :p For Zelda's estimated x-stat, using Zelda, Terra, Kerrigan, Aeris, KOS-MOS, Yuna, Joanna, Chun Li, and *phew* 2K3 Lara Croft, Zelda's at... 35.5% on BL. Take out Joanna, Terra, and Kerrigan, and Zelda's at 34.5%. Take out Aeris and Lara on top of that (values pulled from 2K3), and Zelda's at 33.0%, heh. No matter what, though, if Zelda can't even be estimated at 36% with the Zelda/Terra and Joanna/Yuna flukes, that's a sign that Zelda didn't grow much, if at all. Of course, that should've been obvious after seeing Yuna vs. Zelda.

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Keno316 | Posted 11/8/2006 11:34:05 PM | message detail
Man! These numbers coming in are just murder for Megaman.


Guess we know why he's called the Blue BOMBER!!!!

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 11:41:38 PM | message detail
Snake's now already over a 2000 vote lead. Good show here -- and an awful showing from Mega Man.

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__hiei__ | Posted 11/8/2006 11:49:59 PM | message detail
worst match ever

i was expecting something close.go to hell megaman
Haste_2 | Posted 11/9/2006 12:01:20 AM | message detail
I sincerely hope that Mega Man hasn't dropped, and this is all Snake...if not (more than likely), I hope that Mega Man comes back up to his old levels next year. :[

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Haste_2 | Posted 11/9/2006 12:03:25 AM | message detail
64% update for Snake there.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/9/2006 12:03:53 AM | message detail
"I may have Mega in my bracket, but damn if Snake isn't the better character by a ****ing mile."

Well then, damn.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/9/2006 12:04:55 AM | message detail
"64% update for Snake there."

Double damn.

To think, it only took 4 years for Snake to become the force that people had expected him to be in the first place.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/9/2006 12:08:36 AM | message detail
This looks really bad for MM right now. But wait till the Blue Bomber is announced for the SSBB!
Master Moltar | Posted 11/9/2006 5:14:03 AM | message detail
Holy crap Snake....at nearly 5000 with the night vote.

Ok, maybe I'm a tad worried about Samus's chances now...
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R0YKEANO | Posted 11/9/2006 5:15:17 AM | message detail
At least tomorrow we get to see two real Nobles going at it.
Not one pretender like today or a choker like two days ago.
zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 5:17:28 AM | message detail
R0YKEANO, are you smurf, you seem to hate Mega Man very much.


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Heroic Knuckles | Posted 11/9/2006 5:34:55 AM | message detail
This contest has turned out to be much more fun than I expected. I grieve for my poor, broken bracket, but seeing this match makes it worth it.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 5:42:48 AM | message detail
heh wow, 56%+. that's one hell of a turnaround form 2k4.
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Kullstrom | Posted 11/9/2006 5:46:12 AM | message detail
I wonder if MM is even in the near noble group now. Maybe he's an upper midcarder?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 5:47:51 AM | message detail
Hmm...let's do some things with X-Stats, based on Snake's current percentage (56.11%).

Based on a constant Sora from 2004, Snake is at 36.04 on BL (omg Snake drop).

Based on a constant Gordon Freeman from 2005, Snake is at 39.34 on BL (beats Mega 2k5 and very close to Crono 2k5).

Based on a constant Ryu from 2005, Snake is at 40.7 on BL, above Crono 2k5 but still a point or so under Samus.

Oh, and based on a constant Mega Man? Snake is at 44.19 of course, beating Mario 2k5 without too much of a sweat. =D

Snake will definitely fall a bunch (though he doesn't seem to be losing a LOT of ground with the morning vote), but he definitely looks better right now no matter how you slice it.
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Kullstrom | Posted 11/9/2006 5:49:16 AM | message detail
I'd say constant Ryu is most the likely.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2006 5:49:21 AM | message detail
I think using a constant GF is about as good as we can do. and if he really is nonlinear, even that's bad. normally I'd say Ryu, but that puts Mega Man at like 31-32% and I'm not having that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 5:50:54 AM | message detail
Oh, I guess I forgot to adjust Ryu down for Snake/Bowser...but that doesn't make Snake look as good, but whatever!

Oh, and any of those comparisons aside from the constant Mega Man make Megs look like complete ass.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 6:12:00 AM | message detail
I guess I have to look at the bright side.

Fanboyistic Analyze of tomorrow's match,

If KH2 didn't make Sora a beast, then why would it make Auron to do 7% better than expected? I'm sure that KH23 did help him a little and maybe even a help from FFXII but 7%? We already knew that Bowser was overrated.

No character have a better reason to boost than Vincent. AC, DoC and he wasn't a new character this year. Look at what AC and a few other things did for Tifa, she might get 2nd in this years ROFLMAO X-Stats. 2%(sonic was expted to get 54% but got 52% on Vincent) boost is the least I expect from all that. I can't see that new super Mario Bros made Luigi weaker this year, and how did he then beat two characters that was stronger than him last year if he got weaker (Sonic got 60.2% on Luigi, almost 1% better than expected)

And what about Ganondorf? It doesn't matter how much he was underrated since he still won over Auron with a good deal. Now if Crono beats Sonic, then Auron will end p stronger than Ganondorf.

In other words, Sonic wins tomorrow.
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:13:51 AM | message detail
Mega Man -still- hasn't won a single update...no, not even by the minute in the opening five minutes.

Looking at Snake/Mega Man 2K4, it looks like Mega Man gained about 1% with the afterschool vote...I couldn't tell you for sure if it was a school day, but seeing Mega Man take off at about the 12:00 mark (15:00 by 2K6 poll standards) seems to suggest there indeed school that day. Mega Man looks to be cutting into the percentage slowly with the school-votes, but it probably won't amount to much..it looks like Solid Snake will be ending at 54-55% today.

Going through Ryu thru Bowser thru Crono, Mega Man is at 33.18% on BL, by the way.

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MyWorldlsKefka | Posted 11/9/2006 6:14:35 AM | message detail
If Tifa comes second we should rename them ROFLMAO X-stats.
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:14:40 AM | message detail
...Has Mega Man... won an update yet?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 6:15:31 AM | message detail
Megaman is going to be underrated next year >_>

By underrated, I meanthat many will pick Squall and Zelda above him.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 6:16:15 AM | message detail
You guys are just being worry-warts! Mega Man will look fine once Snake wins the main bracket!
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Janus5000 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:16:47 AM | message detail
Oh, already had that answered. Whoops.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:19:33 AM | message detail
You guys are just being worry-warts! Mega Man will look fine once Zelda wins the main bracket!

Fix'd!

I'm starting to become happy about this result, though. The "my bracket is officially dead, dead" shock is wearing off, and the Metal Gear Solid series is quite fantastic. It's also cool that this only makes Yoshi look just that much better.
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Tediz247 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:29:36 AM | message detail
Wow. I was thinking Snake would win with around 52% or so, not in a slaughter like this. If there was any SFF in Snake/Squall... Squall > Mega Man? We could see the Noble Nine being broken with Mega Man next contest. CJayC had better set him up against Ganondorf, Vincent, or Zelda.
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Kullstrom | Posted 11/9/2006 6:32:54 AM | message detail
1 Sora
8 Knuckles

4 Ganondorf
5 Auron

3 Squall Leonhart
6 Tifa Lockhart

2 Mega Man
7 Vincent Valentine.

A Winner is ____
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 6:35:12 AM | message detail
I would still pick Megaman there, because if he doesn't win then I have no idea who will.

Except Sora or Knuckles.
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MyWorldlsKefka | Posted 11/9/2006 6:35:18 AM | message detail
Squall or Mega Man.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 6:36:35 AM | message detail
It's a three-way race between Mega Man, Squall, and Auron this year for me. Ganondorf has a good shot at taking it after TP too, though I still wouldn't take him because of the possibility of MM overperforming...
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 6:36:46 AM | message detail
I think Vincent or Megaman will win.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 6:37:23 AM | message detail
Oh, I completely missed Vincent there. Yeah, put him in the running with the others for this year.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/9/2006 6:39:17 AM | message detail
Man, this sucks. I couldn't care if anyone scored 100% in this match, but it makes Sora look weaker than 2K3. ;_;
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 6:43:11 AM | message detail
Based on a constant Snake Sora is at 29.71 on BL, a full point or so above his highest value ever (2004). And he'll be going higher after MM cuts the percentage with the afterschool vote.

And...this ain't a constant Snake here.
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Kullstrom | Posted 11/9/2006 6:51:40 AM | message detail
Unless Sonic doubles Snake, it's safe to say that Sora is a long way away from his 2003 value.
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jonthomson | Posted 11/9/2006 7:03:47 AM | message detail
Bah, knew I should have gone with instincts rather than switch to Mega Man late because of his previous wins
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Kegger9 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:06:43 AM | message detail
1 Sora
8 Knuckles

4 Ganondorf
5 Auron

3 Squall Leonhart
6 Tifa Lockhart

2 Mega Man
7 Vincent Valentine.

IF this was next year's contest, it would be...... Vincent over Ganondorf


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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:16:06 AM | message detail
jesus snake, just jesus
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/9/2006 7:26:27 AM | message detail
Wow, I kinda expected Snake to take this one easily, but I was thinking 52-53% easily. But 56%?! This is amazing. Snake just pulled a Mario on Mega Man! He's not even losing much ground with the morning vote so far, and the Blue Bomber hasn't even won a FIVE minute update yet.

So...assuming Snake finishes in the 54-55% range, what do you think his chances are of beating Sonic/Crono?
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zwong1 | Posted 11/9/2006 7:27:42 AM | message detail
I think he will win the main bracket.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/9/2006 7:29:36 AM | message detail
And a 60% percent update for Snake there. Whoa.

Preliminary stats forthcoming! Not exactly sure how to gauge Snake and Mega Man off of this, but we'll try!
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/9/2006 7:29:40 AM | message detail
I can't see Crono winning over this Snake, Sonic is a maybe and Samus.... Well Samus looks even weaker than Megaman right now. >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2006 7:31:13 AM | message detail
Why did this have to be the year I didn't have Snake winning the main bracket?! >_<
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/9/2006 7:32:06 AM | message detail
Come on Sonic/Zelda finals!

I just realized I have no school today or tomorrow. No after school vote!? >_>
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