GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 421
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/8/2006 9:07:21 PM | message detail |
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I may have Mega in my bracket, but damn if Snake isn't the better character by a ****ing mile. *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left): http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/ *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones! http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists: http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251 HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html Aprosenf's Poll Script: http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt GameFAQs' Top 100 Games (down for now, so here's a new link): http://transience.paragonsigma.com/top100.txt Manual Poll Updater: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 9:07:54 PM | message detail |
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OH GOD THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY EVER (ignores that we're five minutes in) --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Redtooth | Posted 11/8/2006 9:08:46 PM | message detail |
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Wow, I just thought of making this, and as I check to copy/paste, it's already made. gg me. --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 11/8/2006 9:19:41 PM | message detail |
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What KH said. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XII, Tales of the Abyss, King of Fighters 2002/2003 |
| __hiei__ | Posted 11/8/2006 9:21:24 PM | message detail |
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ugh lead up again Megaman and samus are now the 2 weakest noble niners |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:10:53 PM | message detail |
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okay, let's make up some stats. assuming Snake with 53%: Solid Snake - 50.00 Mega Man - 47.00 Sora - 42.98 Yoshi - 42.84 Squall - 42.41 Dante - 42.37 Ryu - 39.44 Riku - 38.38 Kratos - 33.83 Gordon Freeman - 31.00 Ryu Hayabusa - 29.48 Axel - 28.32 Phoenix Wright - 25.92 Tidus - 23.73 Tingle - 20.96 Soma Cruz - 17.85 --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:11:43 PM | message detail |
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Sora - 42.98 Yoshi - 42.84 Squall - 42.41 Dante - 42.37 Oh what a fourpack! --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:14:45 PM | message detail |
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...if Snake finishes at 53% Squall could conceivably beat Mega Man. o_o --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:16:13 PM | message detail |
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I'd take that pick, assuming we get the same Mega Man next year. I'd
take Vincent too. hell, you could make a case for Bowser winning
indirectly. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:19:54 PM | message detail |
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I'm scared as hell that this won't be the
MM we see next year though...Sonic had tons of people gunning for him
in 2004, Snake had even more in 2005, seeing MM perform like this seems
really odd. Then again, we'll literally be in a new generation of consoles by the next contest. That could really hurt MM if he continues to slide into obscurity. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:21:38 PM | message detail |
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Ganon would kick Mega Man's ass next year if he stayed the same! (OH PLEASE DON'T REBOUND MEGA MAN !!) --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:24:27 PM | message detail |
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nah, MM would beat the christ out of Ganondorf. look no further than MM/Yoshi. --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:25:20 PM | message detail |
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...Yeah, there's a pretty big difference between Yoshi and post-TP Ganon and, uh, this Mega Man. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:26:07 PM | message detail |
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HM will hold on to the Ganon love for as long as it takes him to switch gears randomly! We can only hope for a massive Samus dropoff this year too, so that MM can still beat her. I wouldn't be able to take him over her now if she remained constant! ;_; --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:26:14 PM | message detail |
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post-TP? well that's speculation, but I'd still take Mega Man without blinking. --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:26:37 PM | message detail |
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And I'd point you toward Mega Man/Zelda for enough reasoning to believe
that Mega Man is not SFFing Ganon or Link/Mega Man. Or any other case
except Yoshi where Mega Man hasn't SFFed a Nintendo character. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:27:51 PM | message detail |
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haven't you argued that Zelda would do better against Samus than
Ganondorf? yeah, I'm not buying Ganondorf doing much in same-fanbase
matches. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:29:15 PM | message detail |
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There's a chance that MM/Zelda had a touch of SFF, y'know. Though that makes Lara look way too strong in 2k3...but she looks too strong anyway there... ...eh, Zelda 2k3 was just weird. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:31:23 PM | message detail |
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That was after I saw her performance against Carmen Sandiego this year (What a match to base it off !!).
I still expect her to outperform him by quite a bit, if only because
she's capable of not only resisting SFF, but getting some favor among
the Nintendo fanbase herself, or at least I think so. But I still have no clue where people get the dumb idea that Mega Man would SFF freaking Nintendo characters. He's done it exactly once and wasn't even capable of SFFing someone from his own fanbase (Zero). Doing it to Yoshi and no one else doesn't get him the title. I would sooner expect all things Zelda to hold up against < --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:31:59 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I've actually considered the possibility there. I'd think
MM/Zelda was similar to Samus/Ganon - maybe 1% on BL, but not much
more. MM may be sucking this year, but I wouldn't take Zelda to turn that sucker around. --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:32:23 PM | message detail |
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There's a chance that MM/Zelda had a touch of SFF, y'know. Though
that makes Lara look way too strong in 2k3...but she looks too strong
anyway there... I really doubt it. She gained about 3% between 2003 and 2005, which was filled with that good old Nintend Boost. I wouldn't really expect any SFF in that match. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:32:47 PM | message detail |
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To be fair, there are a lot of SFF matches I've struggled with lately after seeing the results of this contest. For instance -- how do you expect Aeris/Sora to play out today? --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:33:16 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps not this year, but she'd be plenty capable of doing it next year. Four years later and after Twilight Princess? That's a match she can win! --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:34:32 PM | message detail |
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I still take Aeris. while characters may get stronger or weaker, I
can't see the same fanbase changing all that much. and even if it did,
it'd need to do it significantly - more than we've ever seen in any match - for Sora to pull that out. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:35:19 PM | message detail |
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man, Aeris just confuses the hell out of me. change Sora/Aeris to
Sora/Yuna, since those two are equal this year. does anyone take Yuna? --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:36:03 PM | message detail |
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Aeris/Yuna being equal is pretty crazy stuff. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| Haste_2 | Posted 11/8/2006 10:37:23 PM | message detail |
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Sora/Aeris might be a 50/50 match now... Sora would probably beat Aeris 55/45 without SFF. Oh, and even though Snake has won every 5-minute update against Mega Man so far, Snake did the same against Bowser for the first 3 hours...Snake/Bowser started in the middle of the night, but hey. --- Sign the Petition for more stats in the GameFAQs Contests here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=30693799 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:37:28 PM | message detail |
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What would you expect the percentages to be like, though? 60-40? 55-45? And if Aeris dropped off any more, Sora could definitely do it with, say, KH3. And see, my gut instinct is to take Sora over Yuna. But not over Aeris. Damn past results... Though this match is proving without a shadow of a doubt that past results are not a be-all end all of ANYTHING, especially if they're outdated. Let's not forget Snake is doing this to the character that broke 57% on his ass two years ago. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:38:41 PM | message detail |
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I'd say 55-45, Aeris. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:39:14 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, this match definitely isn't over. It certainly looks good for
Snake (and I've of the opinion that Bowser's day vote is a lil'
underrated by people here), but you don't need much of a day vote to
tear into Solid Snake. The votes are impressive, but I'll feel a lot
safer if he can surpass his pace against Bowser as the true night vote
begins. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:41:04 PM | message detail |
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speaking of which: Zelda/Yuna: 16999 MM/Snake: 15558 Nintendo/Square > fake Nintendo/fake Square! --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:41:34 PM | message detail |
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Though this match is proving without a shadow of a doubt that past
results are not a be-all end all of ANYTHING, especially if they're
outdated. Let's not forget Snake is doing this to the character that
broke 57% on his ass two years ago. That's how I feel on that. It's a bit different if the match took place one year before and was 57%, but when it takes place over two years ago when the site was definitely rather different than now, it just seems pretty silly to look at that and ignore a rematch between two characters a couple of years later. Like Samus/Sonic, that match definitely has a chance to go Sonic's way if Samus dropped and Sonic boosted a bit, or at the very least be very close despite Sonic getting rocked in 2004. Same deal with Mega Man/Zelda. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 11/8/2006 10:42:02 PM | message detail |
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We aren't even two hours in, and snake already has a lead of over 1300.
I don't see how megaman could possibly turn this around, especially
given that we haven't even hit snakes peak time quite yet. As much as
his day vote sucks, it won't even be much of a factor until the
after-school vote, and by then it's going to be far, far too late. --- Currently listening to: A Twist in the Myth, Amputechture, Deus Ex Machinae, Black Wings of Destiny, Let Mortal Heroes Sing your Fame, and others. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:42:54 PM | message detail |
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I guess the best thing we can say is "lol 2k4". I hate that contest. --- xyzzy |
| greatone10 | Posted 11/8/2006 10:43:04 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of Samus/Sonic and past results not meaning that much, remember the huge gap in their 2002 and 2004 matches? --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:43:12 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man's sucking is bringing these votals down! Snake/Squall was SFF and look how great the votals were! --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:45:07 PM | message detail |
| And yeah, I definitely give Sonic a shot at Samus
today. She doesn't even really need to drop, either. 2004 was just a
while back. I'd actually be confident in making such a pick if Sonic Next-Gen were to be out before the match, but alas. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 11/8/2006 10:45:10 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man's sucking is bringing these votals down! Snake/Squall was SFF and look how great the votals were! Snake is doing so well right now, that I could see it being more then megaman just sucking. Looking at what he did to yoshi, his result against squall might have been legit. We could be dealing with a snake far stronger then we've ever seen. Everything he's done this contest seem to point towards that being the case. --- Currently listening to: A Twist in the Myth, Amputechture, Deus Ex Machinae, Black Wings of Destiny, Let Mortal Heroes Sing your Fame, and others. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:46:39 PM | message detail |
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I think it'd be amazing if Sonic managed to actually win the main bracket, if only to see where Ganon and Vincent place! --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:47:08 PM | message detail |
| Well, I expect MM to bring this down to the point
where it's not *that* impressive by the end, and I'd have to say there
was at least a touch of SFF in Snake/Squall, at the least. I can't see
Yoshi beating Squall. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:47:10 PM | message detail |
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I still like Crono over Snake, but I wouldn't be surprised if Snake
pulled it off. Snake is the ultimate wildcard of this contest and his
winning this match makes for a very, very interesting final. --- xyzzy |
| ShadowOwns | Posted 11/8/2006 10:47:48 PM | message detail |
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we all know that theres still another topic to finish rite? --- NHL, get new officials please. Lovin Oil Country. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/8/2006 10:48:46 PM | message detail |
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Although Snake/Yoshi was a sprite round match, so if you believe that
overrated Yoshi a couple of points that makes things line up superbly.
Though that makes Snake really strong, and could make me start regretting that I have him losing to Crono. << --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:50:44 PM | message detail |
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I'm all for random variation or trailer boosts or whatever, but if you
take everything at face value he's at Mario's level. and if he gets to
the BR, god knows what could happen. --- xyzzy |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/8/2006 10:52:11 PM | message detail |
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Snake being high up there before SSBB and MGS4 would be quite interesting. Seeing him after those things would be insane. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:52:41 PM | message detail |
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yeah, exactly. if that's the case, he's beating Mario, SFF or not. --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/8/2006 10:53:25 PM | message detail |
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You guys know the other topic isn't filled, right? >.> --- CB5 Points: 107/112, Current Oracle placement: 22/169 Now playing: Phoenix Wright 2, Final Fanasy XII, Children of Mana |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 11/8/2006 10:54:30 PM | message detail |
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Well, I expect MM to bring this down to the point where it's not
*that* impressive by the end, and I'd have to say there was at least a
touch of SFF in Snake/Squall, at the least. I can't see Yoshi beating
Squall. I see the two being about even with one having a slight edge over the other personally. The fact that Dante seemed slightly stronger then last year after facing ryu, who we've seen through enough years to have a good read on, and still lost to yoshi looks really good on the green bracket ruining bastard (although he's still awesome >_>). --- Currently listening to: A Twist in the Myth, Amputechture, Deus Ex Machinae, Black Wings of Destiny, Let Mortal Heroes Sing your Fame, and others. |
| transience | Posted 11/8/2006 10:55:06 PM | message detail |
| but I think we should calm down a bit before even
contemplating those things. Snake may be getting the most impressive
win of his career here, but Mega Man has just looked ass this year. I
don't wanna go too nuts bandwagoning Snake. right now I like him being
at 38, 38.5% on BL - enough to beat MM or maybe Sonic, but not quite at
Crono's level. (though those two are close enough that Snake could win
regardless.) --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 11/8/2006 10:58:43 PM | message detail |
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I'm not trying to bandwagon anything, or even say he'll win next round,
I just think it's a very real possibility that he's much stronger then
we've ever seen him before, and one we shouldn't ignore. --- Currently listening to: A Twist in the Myth, Amputechture, Deus Ex Machinae, Black Wings of Destiny, Let Mortal Heroes Sing your Fame, and others. |
