CNET Networks Entertainment GameSpot: PS3 - Wii | GameFAQs | Metacritic | MP3.com | TV.com

Home What's New Contribute Features Boards Help

GameFAQs Contests

advertisement

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 419

Draco1214 | Posted 11/7/2006 7:36:40 PM | message detail
Uh, didn't Samus underperform against Rikku by about a whopping 2% if Crono is constant? Hardly a severe overrating, which still makes sure no one in the bracket threatens her with a normal pic.
---
Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XII, Tales of the Abyss, King of Fighters 2002/2003
Pats_Dynasty | Posted 11/7/2006 7:36:41 PM | message detail
So...no chance at all for Yuna, eh?

*kicks pebble on ground and shuffles away*
---
"Everyone is born right handed, only the best can overcome it." - Super Janitor
creativename | Posted 11/7/2006 7:37:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, this match doesn't look good for Samus's 2005 value, but I'd rather not seriosuly draw on anything from a match that could be as fishy as this.

Indeed, it's tough to draw anything from this match. Other than Samus obviously no longer being the favorite. Right now it seems a toss-up between Snake/Crono/Sonic/Samus.
---
www.gamefaqscontests.com
www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/7/2006 7:39:04 PM | message detail
Uh, didn't Samus underperform against Rikku by about a whopping 2% if Crono is constant? Hardly a severe overrating, which still makes sure no one in the bracket threatens her with a normal pic.

Samus underperforming by 2% makes her even with 2k5 Crono. You better damn well believe that's a threat.
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:39:43 PM | message detail
You mean even if Crono is constant and Bowsers match with Ryu is legit. Once again, and I'm probably gonna get scolded for this, have said since day one Bowser overperformed on Ryu and Snake, making Ryu's place in the stats relatively correct. The amount he overperformed on the two I couldn't really gauge at the time, so for simplicities sake I just made them equal, as going by rough estimation it worked out pretty well. That would mean all of dream is overrated save for Ryu and Rikku, and that Samus didn't really underperform on Rikku, rather she overperformed. Now this would be completely ridiculous if I hadn't been saying this pre-contest, but hey, I was!

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 7:40:04 PM | message detail
Uh, didn't Samus underperform against Rikku by about a whopping 2% if Crono is constant? Hardly a severe overrating, which still makes sure no one in the bracket threatens her with a normal pic.

That's enough to go from being projected to beat Crono to being projected to lose to Crono and possibly Sonic if he boosted by less than a percent.

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/7/2006 7:41:44 PM | message detail
And...we're all expecting multiple match pictures for the finals, right? Assuming Samus is legitimately stronger, if she gets ZSS in one of those, is that enough to tip the scales against characters that should be FAR closer to her?
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:42:34 PM | message detail
That's enough to go from being projected to beat Crono to being projected to lose to Crono and possibly Sonic if he boosted by less than a percent.

I'm sorry... but Samus going from beating down Sonic with 57.5% two years ago, to losing to Sonic just ain't happening, when nothing significant has happened for the blue blur. Throw in all the random variation you want, he's not overcoming that much, and hell I like his chances against Crono.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
creativename | Posted 11/7/2006 7:42:43 PM | message detail
Hell even Mega Man isn't totally out of it yet. Though he's the least likely.
---
www.gamefaqscontests.com
www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/7/2006 7:43:42 PM | message detail
Both look extremely different than what the casuals are used to seeing.

Hello old Snake! Look at his huge underperformance against Squ.... wate.
--- -
Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/7/2006 7:44:02 PM | message detail
I'm sorry... but Samus going from beating down Sonic with 57.5% two years ago, to losing to Sonic just ain't happening

But Snake/Mega Man being a tossup two years after a similar result is fine?
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
creativename | Posted 11/7/2006 7:44:16 PM | message detail
Assuming Samus is legitimately stronger, if she gets ZSS in one of those, is that enough to tip the scales against characters that should be FAR closer to her?

Why coitanly. <pokes ZSS Samus in the eyes>

Nyak nyak nyak nyak.
---
www.gamefaqscontests.com
www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:44:22 PM | message detail
And...we're all expecting multiple match pictures for the finals, right? Assuming Samus is legitimately stronger, if she gets ZSS in one of those, is that enough to tip the scales against characters that should be FAR closer to her?

I was thinking about this the other day... and the only thing I can say is I hope if any pictures feature her as ZSS, it's one of those biased ones where it's meant to make her look crappy anyway, because if he makes ones like that, and ZSS is used in a Pro-Samus pic.... watch the **** out maybe.

Also, if Ceej went ahead and used ZSS next round against Zelda, my head would totally ****ing explode.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:44:50 PM | message detail
But Snake/Mega Man being a tossup two years after a similar result is fine?

Snake's had a whole hell of a lot more than Sonic has.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/7/2006 7:45:06 PM | message detail
I'm sorry... but Samus going from beating down Sonic with 57.5% two years ago, to losing to Sonic just ain't happening, when nothing significant has happened for the blue blur. Throw in all the random variation you want, he's not overcoming that much, and hell I like his chances against Crono.

Aren't you supporting the Snake > MM upset?
TuRtLe
~~~
81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1
Janus5000 | Posted 11/7/2006 7:45:19 PM | message detail
And...we're all expecting multiple match pictures for the finals, right? Assuming Samus is legitimately stronger, if she gets ZSS in one of those, is that enough to tip the scales against characters that should be FAR closer to her?

Zero **** Samus would be cancelled out by Solid ****!

Though it might hurt her against Sonic, Crono, or Mega Man. Not sure, though. She might be legitimately weaker than the first two, and the KING OF SFF would most certainly have his way with her anyway.

...Robot rSFF in Samus/Mega Man?
---
"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 7:45:46 PM | message detail
I'm sorry... but Samus going from beating down Sonic with 57.5% two years ago, to losing to Sonic just ain't happening, when nothing significant has happened for the blue blur. Throw in all the random variation you want, he's not overcoming that much, and hell I like his chances against Crono.

That sounds strikingly similar to Snake's situation with Mega Man. Within two years, that difference is able to be made up, whether or not you actually like it. Samus isn't underrated at all, so I'm not even going to entertain any silly notion of that that you may want to toss around. Given that, Samus is projected to beat Sonic in 2005 with 53.83%. If she does happen to be overrated in 2005, and Sonic boosts a little bit, he could actually win that match. It doesn't take much.

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 7:46:27 PM | message detail
Snake's had a whole hell of a lot more than Sonic has.

...Don't you dare say the SSBB trailer nor MGS4 hype.

Now list what Snake has had.

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:46:44 PM | message detail
Aren't you supporting the Snake > MM upset?

LOL!

I've been one of the most outspoken people against everyone acting like Snake > MM is a foregone conclusion. IF WANT TO CROWN HIS ASS, CROWN IT. I think it'll be damn close, but I still see MM taking it in a close one.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:48:45 PM | message detail

...Don't you dare say the SSBB trailer nor MGS4 hype.

Now list what Snake has had.


1) 2K4 was by far Snakes worst year for whatever reason.
2) MGS3
3) MGS3:Sub

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/7/2006 7:51:43 PM | message detail
I was mistaken then. But there was something you obnoxiously disagreed with me about.

TuRtLe
~~~
81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:53:00 PM | message detail
I just laughed out loud at you calling someone else obnoxious.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/7/2006 7:53:37 PM | message detail
Since Sonic/Samus II Sonic's had Sonic Heroes, Sonic Rush, hell even Shadow the Hedgehog if you want to go so far. Not to mention he's on the verge of his next-gen releases...

Now, of course that doesn't measure up completely to what Snake has had, but if Snake wins it doesn't have to be by a single vote. There's room for Snake to beat Mega Man and still leave Sonic > Samus as a viable possibility.
---
*kills self*
Commit it to memory.
The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/7/2006 7:53:57 PM | message detail
If this is pic factor, Mega Man is going to beat Snake.
~~~
The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 7:55:32 PM | message detail
1) 2K4 was by far Snakes worst year for whatever reason.
2) MGS3
3) MGS3:Sub


Metal Gear Solid 3 would take care of getting him back on track between 2004 and 2005. That lessens the gap, much like Sonic lessened the gap between 2004 and 2005, but MGS3: Subsistence should be worth next to nothing given what it sold.

And that's not "far more" than Sonic by any means, especially when Sonic got a favoring from the Nintendo Boost. I'm not saying he will win, but you can't think one is a possibilty and the other isn't.


---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:56:56 PM | message detail
And like you said... none of them are even close to what Snake's done. He'd have to beat MM pretty handily for that to happen, and that's assuming a constant MM, who IMO has much more reason to drop off than Samus, not that I think he actually has at all. It's a pretty damn big stretch for me. Of course it's in the realm of possibility, but I'll be damned if it happens.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
charmander6000 | Posted 11/7/2006 7:57:01 PM | message detail
Match LVIII: (1) Zelda vs. (1) Yuna

Previous Matches

Zelda
Defeated Carmen Sandiego, 86.08% - 13.92%
Defeated Terra Branford, 79.45% - 20.55%
Defeated Aeris Gainsborough, 56.87% - 43.13%

Yuna
Defeated Roll, 79.30% - 20.70%
Defeated Joanna Dark, 78.05% - 21.95%
Defeated Chun Li, 60.84% - 39.16%

Analysis:

Last round Zelda made any mockery of hype for this match by getting almost 57% against Aeris and combined with Samus’ performance today Zelda’s upset special looks really nice right now. Yuna continues her own domination by almost getting 61% on Chun Li which isn’t that far from what Bowser got on her.

This is the last non-interesting match of the contest. Since Zelda was able to beat Aeris so easily then I don’t see why she would have any trouble against Yuna. There are some people who think Yuna is stronger than Aeris, but as well as she has performed during the contest I cannot see her beating Aeris by as much as Zelda did.

Speaking of good performances both of these characters look great to be stronger than what their 2k5 numbers say and depending on whom you ask they believe that one of the character will overperform in the match. Well it looks like TP hype has been in full force for Zelda since the game will be coming out in over a week and Zelda fans are all over the boards talking about the game. Yuna has had KH2 which even though her part wasn’t that big it was her first time in the game which could give her a small boost, but right now the game everyone is talking about is the newly released FFXII bringing an influx of FF fans to GameFAQs. FFXII didn’t help Aeris that much (unless you think she is even weaker), though maybe it was because the game wasn’t out that long to give her a good enough boost.

Even with FFXII Zelda should have no problem winning this match. Last year Ganondorf beat Yuna 61/39 and I think Zelda is more or less equal to Ganondorf. Watch all these factors going for both characters get canceled out and Zelda gets what Ganondorf got, now that would be funny.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Aeris Gainsborough over Yuna (v_v)

charmander6000’s Prediction: Zelda wins, 60.16% - 39.84%

---
"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 7:58:47 PM | message detail
Oh, and Samus has had MP2, and MP:Hunters since 2004 too, I'd say that's of at least equal value if not more than what Sonic has had.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:00:03 PM | message detail
And that's not "far more" than Sonic by any means, especially when Sonic got a favoring from the Nintendo Boost. I'm not saying he will win, but you can't think one is a possibilty and the other isn't.

So now Sonic is part of benefitting from the Sonic boost, along with everyone else, and Samus, an actual Nintendo character is the only one to drop.... and you people call me biased!

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:00:27 PM | message detail
We've also breached 140,000 votes with an hour left. >_>

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:01:10 PM | message detail
Sonic Boost = Nintendo Boost.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
creativename | Posted 11/7/2006 8:01:16 PM | message detail
One other thing to indicate a big Yuna performance would be if Chun-Li was stronger this year, similar to Ryu.

I don't believe that's true and expect Zelda to get high 50's, but just throwing that out there.
---
www.gamefaqscontests.com
www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery
Draco1214 | Posted 11/7/2006 8:02:14 PM | message detail
If Samus's percentage now is equal to the one Snake had against Bowser. Looks like Samus/Tifa will now be the match the noble nine performed the worst against a non-noble niner.
---
Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XII, Tales of the Abyss, King of Fighters 2002/2003
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 8:03:42 PM | message detail
So now Sonic is part of benefitting from the Sonic boost, along with everyone else, and Samus, an actual Nintendo character is the only one to drop.... and you people call me biased!

I actually prefer Samus to Mega Man, so I'm certainly not one to pull any sort of bias card here. But Sonic definitely looked to have boosted last year for whatever reason. It might not have ben apart of the Nintendo Boost, but he certainly increased. And if Samus was overrated in 2004, she might not have dropped. If she wasn't, then she dropped at some point. I know it hurts, but you'll get over it !! >>

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
trannyscience | Posted 11/7/2006 8:04:02 PM | message detail
looks like HM jumped ship again!
---
zizzy
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 8:05:05 PM | message detail
Err, Samus to Sonic. Whatever!

looks like HM jumped ship again!

I don't go down with sinking ships unless I'm the captain. =p

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
trannyscience | Posted 11/7/2006 8:05:28 PM | message detail
ha. truer words have never been spoken.
---
zizzy
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:06:59 PM | message detail
If Samus is overrated in 2004... that makes Sonics boost completely redonkulous, Lara this year is completely unexplainable, Sora horrificly pathetic, making his KH2 boost out of this goddamn WORLD, and Sam Fisher.... well goddamn LOL.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
Keno316 | Posted 11/7/2006 8:07:33 PM | message detail
I don't go down with sinking ships unless I'm the captain. =p

So...has the sunken wreckage of the SS Ganon>Vincent been found yet?
---
"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:07:49 PM | message detail
I don't go down with sinking ships unless I'm the captain. =p

Glad to hear you're the number 1 man on Zelda's ship then!

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/7/2006 8:08:07 PM | message detail
Zelda > Samus with a greater margin than Zelda > Carmen!
~~~
The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 8:08:45 PM | message detail
One other thing to indicate a big Yuna performance would be if Chun-Li was stronger this year, similar to Ryu.

If Chun-Li was stronger this year, I'm eating my hat. She went 55/45 with Lara Croft for crying out loud.

If Samus is overrated in 2004... that makes Sonics boost completely redonkulous, Lara this year is completely unexplainable, Sora horrificly pathetic, making his KH2 boost out of this goddamn WORLD, and Sam Fisher.... well goddamn LOL.

You know the alternative!

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/7/2006 8:09:18 PM | message detail
I wish people would stop calling it the Nintendo boost. It looked a lot more like an old-school boost to me.

Hell, I even said that Sonic was part of that "Nintendo Club" that every Nintendo character + Mega Man fit into, so Sonic boosting alongside them is pretty logical.

The only thing wrong is what exactly happened to MM, although maybe it's just the fact that Nintendo and Sonic are a lot more popular then MM and friends.
--- -
Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/7/2006 8:09:21 PM | message detail
Ahem. I was on Zelda > Samus while HM was still on about Ganondorf. >=/
~~~
The one. The only. Lady Ashe.
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:10:17 PM | message detail
Ahem. I was on Zelda > Samus while HM was still on about Ganondorf. >=/

But you're a joke.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/7/2006 8:10:41 PM | message detail

But you're a joke.


And you're any different?
--- -
Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/7/2006 8:11:01 PM | message detail
Glad to hear you're the number 1 man on Zelda's ship then!

Hah!

When Zelda's ship goes coasting past Samus's sinking little boat, we'll how glad you are about it !!

---
"Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire."
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:11:31 PM | message detail

And you're any different?


I won't stand to be insulted by a Canadian.

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/7/2006 8:13:24 PM | message detail
I won't stand to be insulted by a Canadian.

If you're not on your knees with some random user, then I'll be extremely shocked.
--- -
Why the hell did I bet against a character as deep, awesome and badass as Lara Croft, instead favouring a character from something as lame as HL2? Forgive me, XIII.
HoorayProxies | Posted 11/7/2006 8:14:20 PM | message detail
Since when did your mother start coming here?

OH LAWD LOW BLOW, LOW BLOW

---
Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies!