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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 416

Draco1214 | Posted 11/6/2006 5:56:11 PM | message detail
I find it ironic that his value will likely end up being pretty damn close to his 2005 value.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 5:59:06 PM | message detail
Also, poor Crono. Of all the explanation for Auron's overperformance, none of them are good for Crono.

First, it implies that Ganon may have been stronger than we thought last year, meaning Sonic is looking to be an absolute beast.

Secondly, it makes Sora's performance against Mega Man seem more valid, meaning the winner of MM/Snake will be looking good.

Lastly, it implies that Auron may have been underrated due to Smaus/Mario adjustments not being high enough.

From being a lock to take the male bracket and give Samus a run, Crono sure isn't looking too good.

Hopefully he can overcome these obstacles.

It's also good to see the bottom 5 members of the NN looking to be closer than once thought.

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Haste_2 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:00:06 PM | message detail
Wow...Auron's past 55% now. That's just odd. He only gained 3% on ALUCARD between his lowest percentage and his final percentage, yet he's gained over 5% on Crono from his lowest percentage already.

'll bring up an old point - pre-KH, who would you take to win, Squall or Auron?
Pre-KH1, eh? Auron, by far. =p I'd probably take Auron in 2K3 and 2K4, as well, but I don't think 2K5.

If anything, Auron's practically validating [Vincent/Crono] as a normal matchup.
I think Vincent/Crono's result also confirms that Auron isn't overperforming on Crono, and even more strongly on that part, since you would expect FF7 to have more powerful SFF!

Assuming Auron ends at 45.5% and using a constant Crono, Auron goes up to 36.28% on BL. Wowzers...though I can't say I'm surprised... Sub-Zero threw me off a bit. That makes Alucard equal to 25.11%, by the way.

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Draco1214 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:00:58 PM | message detail
Last year, Sonic was projected to score over 56% on Ganondorf. This year, he's projected to get only 54%. I think it's pretty obvious Ganon was underrated, which makes Auron's boost a little less extreme.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:03:02 PM | message detail
Hmm... FFXII helping Auron here would also validate my theory that FFXII would help those affected more during the afterschool and evening because that is when people play games and thus come to look at faqs more frequently. Of course, it didn't seem to give Aeris any help at resisting Zelda's afterschool vote.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 6:03:29 PM | message detail
Unless Ganondorf just boosted. Zelda's looking pretty good this year compared to last year. Ganondorf could have gotten into her stash too.
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Draco1214 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:10:44 PM | message detail
I still say Zelda's matches are a bit inconclusive. I'll wait and see what she does to Yuna before I'll say she boosted at all. The match is also good in that we can compare what she gets on Yuna to how Ganondorf did.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/6/2006 6:24:24 PM | message detail
Holy crap, Auron is STILL chugging? He's almost equal to 2005 Bowser now based on a constant Crono. If he ends at 45.4% (random guess), he ends up at 36.20% on Base Link (between Bowser and Vincent). Subbie ends up at around 29% on BL, and MC at 28% something...

So 2005 MC ends up more or less legit? lol @ that. It's also strange how I thought MC would be at 27-28% on BL, which may end up correct, just not in the way that I at all expected.

Go Go Auron! There's no way he was THIS underrated in 2005. He had to have recieved a good-sized boost.
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Crono vs. Auron - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Auron (84/92)
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/6/2006 6:25:35 PM | message detail
This just makes me question the taste of voters here. HOW DOES SUB-ZERO HAVE ANY STRENGTH AT ALL!!!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 6:27:41 PM | message detail
Sub-Zero is awesome, that's why.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/6/2006 6:29:35 PM | message detail
Man, if Auron gets Crono down to 54.09%, then I could use Smurf stats to say Ganondorf > Crono! That's almost as great as Shadow > Snake!
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Crono vs. Auron - Bracket: Crono - Vote: Auron (84/92)
zwong1 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:31:53 PM | message detail
If Snake and Sonic does indeed win their elite eight matches, imagine how many users on the leaderboard will get replaced.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/6/2006 6:39:16 PM | message detail
If MM>Snake and Sonic>Crono, maybe I can be #1 on the leaderboard for a while (#16 now).
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/6/2006 6:40:38 PM | message detail
I wonder if I actually have a chance of winning if Sonic > Snake ends up happening.
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:52:01 PM | message detail
I hope Sonic goes on a bloody rampage and owns everything (PoP legit? Too legit to quit?). Up until Samus gets 75% on him, but Samus rSFFs everyone and goes on to get every single vote in the BR, eliminating all competition on the first day.

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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 6:52:27 PM | message detail
Crono's constant bleeding pleases me to no end.

The Blue Blur must have satisfaction. Crono must die. I don't even care about Snake/Mega Man vs. Sonic. Hell, if it were Snake/Sonic, I'd be happy with either result. But Crono MUST BE DEFEATED. For great justice. I have watch that worthless mute punk destroy too many amazing characters. I've witnessed too much sin, too many indignities. The red-headed step child of Goku will fall, and I will celebrate by finally changing my sig.
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:54:24 PM | message detail
If Snake actually wins the male bracket this year, I can't even imagine what he'll be like after SSBB and MGS4 actually come out. Not that I think it's happening, it's between Sonic and Crono in my mind still, though Snake certainly has a chance.

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 11/6/2006 6:55:23 PM | message detail
Plus Sonic making the BR would be the best possible outcome... that or Crono. MM & Snake would both get rocked into oblivion, I want to see how Sonic or Crono could do.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 7:37:17 PM | message detail
Sonic got rocked in the Battle Royale poll with Crono, Snake, and Sora. I'd only take him over Samus and maybe Mario if he's lucky.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 11/6/2006 7:39:19 PM | message detail
^That wasn't a real poll though KH. IIRC the question was who was most likely to win the male bracket, not who would you vote for.
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Big Bob | Posted 11/6/2006 7:40:39 PM | message detail
If Sonic won the male bracket, I can see him outlasting Mario on Day 1.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 7:41:19 PM | message detail
To think that Crono has gone from 50-50 with Mario to 50-50 with Sonic
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 7:41:39 PM | message detail
And? People end up voting pretty similarly to that anyway. Look at the Series Contest poll that asked which 1 seed was most likely to get upset, it goes Zelda > FF > Mario > Metal Gear. Imagine that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 7:42:25 PM | message detail
...in terms of strength, not in terms of who's getting upset. Metal Gear doubled up faces in that poll !!
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Cecil | Posted 11/6/2006 7:50:21 PM | message detail
To think that Crono has gone from 50-50 with Mario to 50-50 with Sonic

It was bound to happen, it's not like Crono will ever have a remake or another game. He's been so powerful for so long because so many believe that Chrono Trigger was one of the greatest rpg's ever, his popularity won't last forever.

Don't get me wrong, I would still rank Chrono Trigger as my favorite rpg....though Crono is my least favorite character in the game...*shrug*
FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 7:52:44 PM | message detail
I may be confused, but didn't the series contest go Zelda> FF> Mario> Smash Bros> Sonic> Metal Gear?
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 11/6/2006 7:53:36 PM | message detail
Of course Crono will be the first noble nine to lose, but Crono isn't down to 50-50 with Sonic just yet. Oh well, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 7:54:07 PM | message detail
Neither Smash Brothers nor Sonic were in that poll.
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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 7:55:07 PM | message detail
I was thinking in terms of the Series Contest.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 11/6/2006 7:57:37 PM | message detail
From FourthDeus
I may be confused, but didn't the series contest go Zelda> FF> Mario> Smash Bros> Sonic> Metal Gear?

Correct.
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Big Bob | Posted 11/6/2006 8:01:28 PM | message detail
Did some quick Xstats calculations.

Sonic is projected to get 45.43% on Ganondorf this year.

Right now, Crono has 45.42% on Auron, who Ganondorf easily beat last year.

So unless Auron boosted enough to beat Ganondorf,

Crono is so screwed
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/6/2006 8:06:26 PM | message detail
Despite how well Auron has done, he hasn't won a single 15 minute update.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 8:06:58 PM | message detail
But if the ratio between Bowser and Ganondorf remains the same as it was in the villains contest, Crono beats Ganondorf with 56%!

And you can't argue with the villain's contest. Those values were rock-solid.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 8:07:01 PM | message detail
I told you goofballs I would have taken Auron > Ganondorf this year! Sure, Subby made me lose the faith, but I was initially right!
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/6/2006 8:10:29 PM | message detail
Limit of the Spazer Division: Round 4 - Match 57 – (1)Samus vs. (1)Tifa

Moltar’s Analysis

Samus - The Best of the Best in the female half, and the whole bracket!
Round 1 – 81.85% vs. Nidoran F (18.15%)
Round 2 – 79.78% vs. Ada (20.22%)
Round 3 – 69.00% vs. Rikku (31.00%)

More Samus domination in Round 3

Tifa - The Breast of the Best in the female half, WOO Tifa Breast joke #53324!
Round 1 – 76.18% vs. Ivy (23.82%)
Round 2 – 74.55% vs. The Boss (25.45%)
Round 3 – 66.05% vs. Peach (33.95%)

Tifa nearly doubles the Princess.

Samus has taken down all that have stepped in her path so far, but now she faces her toughest opponent yet. Hey Samus, Breasts have arrived!

Now, Tifa has looked pretty good so far. Good numbers against Ivy and The Boss, decent stuff against Peach. That’s all good and stuff…but you need a bit more than that to face Samus. I mean, Tifa got 43% on Sonic last year, and Samus has beaten Sonic twice in the past. Tifa doesn’t even look to be much stronger than her last year self. Maybe it was just her opponents though…

Samus on the other hand is looking to be at or above her 2005 value, and that’s more than enough to win this match easily. Samus beats Tifa 60-40 using last year’s stats, and I honestly don’t see it being to far away from that result. Tifa fans should feel good if she breaks 40%, because 45% is waaay too much to ask for.

Oh, and it’s the debut of Zero Suit Samus! Time to see her kick some ass and take some names!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Samus will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Samus: 59% - Tifa: 41%



Ulti’s Analysis

We're in the final eight and still have eeeeeeeasy matches on the female side. All this is is a "guess the winner's percent!" type of match.

Prediction: Samus with 59.47%



HM’s Analysis

Samus Aran

Previous Matches:

Samus Aran – 81.85% -- 95,533

Nidoran F – 18.15% -- 21,180

Samus Aran – 79.78% -- 98,352

Ada Wong – 20.22% -- 24,923

Samus Aran – 69% -- 85,439

Rikku – 31% -- 38,387

Tifa Lockhart

Previous Matches:

Tifa Lockhart – 76.18% -- 96,118

Ivy Valentine – 23.82% -- 30,046

Tifa Lockhart – 74.55% -- 90,595

The Boss – 25.45% -- 30,934

Tifa Lockhart – 66.05% -- 79,830

Princess Peach – 33.95% -- 41,033

Starting the female bracket now isn’t so bad when you’re starting it off with something like Samus/Tifa! Although the result of this match is a foregone conclusion, it’ll be nice to actually see two strong Nintendo and Square characters going at it. This one should help us get an idea of where Tifa stands after KH2 and where characters like Peach and Jill end up placing. Samus had a pretty “by the stats” match against Rikku last year, out doing them by less than a percent, whereas Tifa put up a pretty impressive doubling on Princess Peach despite starting out pretty badly.

I think there is a slight possibility that Samus may undershoot her expectations and projections in this match. I doubt the picture, which is Zero Suit Samus from SSBB, will hurt her that much, but it just seems like the female bracket would have some over and underperformances similar the Villain Contest for whatever reason. It probably won’t be anything major, but Tifa may put up surprising numbers or she may just get rocked hard.
Master Moltar | Posted 11/6/2006 8:10:53 PM | message detail
It’s nice to see that we’re starting to get into some of the more interesting matches. We pretty much only have the strong characters left in the contest at this point, which is particularly good for the female half! The most exciting match – ZELDA > SAMUS – has yet to come though!

Aitch Emm’s Bracket: Samus Aran

Aitch Emm’s Prediction: Samus Aran – 60% ; Tifa Lockhart – 40%

Aitch Emm’s Vote: Samus Aran





Yoblazer’s Analysis

Before getting to gourge ourselves on the two terrific men's matches, we'll have to sit through two boring, predictable matches on the female side. Despite these matches not being very good for the Elite 8, let's look on the bright side: they're about ten times better than what we've had to deal with so far from the female bracket.

Both Samus and Tifa have more or less done exactly what was expected of them. It can be argued that Tifa underperformed against Princess Peach, but it's difficult to argue that point when Peach is completely new to the contest scene. Either way, we all knew both of these characters would be here, and we knew what the ending result would be.

Truth be told, the most interesting aspect of this match is probably the fact that it's the first time Samus has been pictured without her Power Suit. Will she underperform? Overperform? Will it make no difference? Unless the percentages are completely out of whack, it will be hard to tell, but the Metroid heroine should have no trouble in winning. Personally, I think Samus is going to look good here, but I'm not sure why either of the FFVII ladies haven't looked more impressive, especially when given the fact that every male character who starred in KHII has looked extremely impressive thus far. It strikes me as very strange, and almost gives me a forboding feeling that Tifa will have the match of her life. Regardless, my Nintendo fanboyism has once again gotten the better of me, so I'm going with Samus for the easy win. See you in Brawl, sexy mama.

My prediction: Samus Aran def. Tifa Lockheart (58-42)


Lopen’s Analysis

This match kinda bores me. None too interesting. I'd like to say Tifa has an upset chance here, but she really doesn't. We saw Sonic smash her into the dirt last year, we know Samus is at least on the level of Sonic. Kind of a no-brainer. Not even the results of this year give it any support. Tifa got less on Peach than Samus got on Rikku… and come on, who here takes Peach over Rikku. Anybody, anybody? I guess Tifa smashing the Boss with 75% or so was pretty impressive, but we know about that FF7/MGS stuff that goes on.

Anyway, Samus has shown to typically be stronger than Sonic, Sonic got ~57% on Tifa last year, I expect Samus to get a tad more.

Lopen's prediction: Samus with 58.12%



KH’s Analysis

lol x-stats history

Samus Aran

Summer 2002 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 4th Place [41.07%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 7th Place [36.72%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 4th Place [39.50%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 5th Place [38.21%]

Samus does about as expected on Rikku. Not much to say about it, just like every other female match!

Tifa Lockheart

Summer 2005 Contest
Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [30.77%]

Tifa doubles up on Peach, not too much to say either way about it. Just like every other female match!
Master Moltar | Posted 11/6/2006 8:11:45 PM | message detail
Notable Releases Since Last Appearance

Samus Aran: Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS), Metroid Prime Pinball (DS), Super Smash Brothers Brawl Trailer (lol internet)
Tifa: Kingdom Hearts II (PS2)

Upcoming Releases

Samus Aran: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (WII), Super Smash Brothers Brawl (WII)
Tifa: N/A

Well, this match is only really important because it's the debut of Zero Suit Samus, and will help to quell speculation concerning whether or not it will help or hurt Samus. I really don't think it'll matter either way, maybe a lil' to hurt, but it's not like Tifa had a chance here anyway. Her big goal is to do as well as possible to show that she has a chance at challenging Zelda (though the point is perhaps moot since such a match would be after TP).

Karma Hunter's Vote: Tifa. blah blah personality > Samus blah blah

Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Samus Aran with 57.46% .

Tifa should clear 40% pretty easily here, I should hope. Everything else is fair game.

Upset Potential: 0%

Tifa isn't affiliated with Nintendo in the slightest! She has no chance here!



Guest’s Analysis - nintendogirl

Hey it’s me, the user you’ve never seen or even heard of before! I’m stepping in as the guest today because I think that even I can predict this one without looking like too much of an idiot. Before this year, I lurked during contest time but never really paid any interest to the subtleties of the contest. Swings and SFF and surprisingly, I had no concept of the Noble Nine.

So now, with all that knowledge and a little hoping I reckon I can quite happily say that Samus is going to win.

<_<

Okay, so you knew that bit. Samus is Noble Nine and there is I don’t think anyone in the main bracket that can hit over 47% on her. She is a fully-suited Nintendo mascot with missiles blaring while Tifa is the big boobed girl from FF7. Yeah, she had a cameo in KHII, but to be honest, it will mean absolutely nothing next to Samus.

Incidentally apparently even most of the casuals know that with Samus being the character with the highest bracket support in the second and third rounds and the second highest in the first round.

So, in summary, Samus will breeze through this match as she heads all the way to the Battle Royale with a comfortable margin against whoever meets her in the final.

Ngirl’s prediction: Samus with 59.83%



Crew Consensus: Samus beats Tifa with ease. Crew predicts in the mid-to-high 50's range...yeah, that's been happening alot recently.
CountCrazy007 | Posted 11/6/2006 8:12:43 PM | message detail
Ganondorf could have dropped slightly. He isn't fresh on the minds of many gamers considering there hasn't been a game including him in a while. But come Twilight Princess, he's roxxors. I also picked Auron > Ganondorf in that match and I'd do it again today. I'm not sure why, but I feel that Auron's fanbase is fairly hardcore and the Final Fantasy namebrand is fresh on our minds at the moment. I mean, I have to think Crono/Auron has some bastardized version of SFF or rSFF or whatever you'd like to call it. You can't judge the strength of a character when they're facing another from the same fanbase. This is really just a judge of within the Square/RPG fanbase, who is most popular? Auron vs. Crono is kinda new vs. old. Crono is a classic and Auron is the brand new "badass." When Sonic and Crono go head to head the fanbases aren't identical and among the nostalgic gamers Crono has a larger following at GameFAQs. In short, I just can't see Sonic coming too close to beating Crono. Oh, and, Big Bob... obligatory "lol x-stats."
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2006 8:13:51 PM | message detail
Everybody's within 2.54% of one-another...hell, if it wasn't for cuh-raaaaaaaaaaazy KH, everybody would have been within 2%...


...and I probably would have too.
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Big Bob | Posted 11/6/2006 8:14:12 PM | message detail
Big Bob's completely biased and nonsensical analysis

Tifa has obviously boosted from Kingdom Hearts II. Samus has her ZSS pic, which could possibly hurt or help her. Samus is gonna win easily, but I fully expect this match to set off some alarms. Board 8 will be in a riot after this match happens.

Bob's Prediction: Samus with...um...hold on.

(goes to check what Sonic got on Tifa last year)

...56.39%
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 8:15:20 PM | message detail
Despite how well Auron has done, he hasn't won a single 15 minute update.

*looks at the past 15 minutes*

you pulled a Slowflake
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SubLibz4 | Posted 11/6/2006 8:19:11 PM | message detail
Doesn't Aurons performance on Crono show that Sub-Zero is a strong newcomer, wouldn't he be projected to get like 35% on Crono, which is better than most would expect before this contest?
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 11/6/2006 8:20:21 PM | message detail
I don't see the Auron/Sub-Zero correlation.
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creativename | Posted 11/6/2006 8:25:08 PM | message detail
I hope today will firmly put to rest belief in the myth of Master Chief being weird to any substantial degree.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/6/2006 8:25:33 PM | message detail
I think the biggest question here is...how is Captain Falcon so weak? >_>
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Cecil XIX | Posted 11/6/2006 8:26:35 PM | message detail
RPGuy96
Posted 11/6/2006 11:06:26 PM
message detail Despite how well Auron has done, he hasn't won a single 15 minute update.


At 19:53:01, Crono's lead was 10,697.
At 20:08:01, Crono's lead was 10,674.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2006 8:28:33 PM | message detail
Match LVII: (1) Samus Aran vs. (1) Tifa Lockhart

Pervious Matches

Samus Aran
Defeated Nidoran F, 81.85% - 18.15%
Defeated Ada Wong, 79.78% - 20.22%
Defeated Rikku, 69.00% - 31.00%

Tifa Lockhart
Defeated Ivy Valentine, 76.18% - 23.82%
Defeated The Boss, 74.55% - 25.45%
Defeated Princess Peach, 66.05% - 33.95%

Analysis:

Last round Samus was once again able to get the blowout of the round by showing how much stronger she is compare to everyone. Tifa had no problem defeating Peach and has being just as impressive as Zelda, too bad most people think she would destroy Tifa after her match against Zelda.

Welcome to round 4 where the Noble 9 shall begin their epic matches, but first we have to get the female half out of the way. Tifa may be the third (or second depending on who you ask) strongest female, but she is still no match for Samus. Samus’ free ride to the finals is soon coming to an end and in my opinion she hasn’t shown me that she has what it takes to easily beat out the male winner like some were thinking at the beginning of the contest.

If there is one thing that I have noticed in this match is the match picture. For the first time ever Samus gets her Zero Suit picture and as happy the board is about that I have a feeling Samus will underperform in this match. Sure many Metroid fans know her in her suit less form, but Samus does get a lot of her strength from the SSB series. The reason why she was so strong in 2k2 despite 8 years without a Metroid game was because of the SSB series. I can see the picture factor be almost as bad as Solid **** (okay maybe not that bad).

Despite thinking she will lose some support because of the picture Samus should have no problem winning this match with ease. Like I said before Samus has yet to impress me and as of now she has just of good of a chance winning the bracket as does any of the males that are left.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Samus Aran over Tifa Lockhart

charmander6000’s Prediction: Samus wins, 58.92% - 41.08%

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 8:32:43 PM | message detail
I hope today will firmly put to rest belief in the myth of Master Chief being weird to any substantial degree.

Despite Auron's amazing performance today, Master Chief is expected to barely clear 36% on Crono. While it may not be to the extent that some were calling for, that's definitely 'substantial'.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/6/2006 8:50:59 PM | message detail
MC is definitely nonlinear. he was expected to go 50/50 with 2k5 Auron. Auron has boosted, but not that much.

ummm Crono with 33.33%
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creativename | Posted 11/6/2006 8:52:34 PM | message detail
Despite Auron's amazing performance today, Master Chief is expected to barely clear 36% on Crono. While it may not be to the extent that some were calling for, that's definitely 'substantial'.

Not to any conclusive degree.

I've been over this before, but people just seem attached to this notion - they won't let it go. I believed that Master Chief overperformed on Crono last year by a couple points, but that's as likely (if not much more likely) due to the lightsaber advantage as any inherent weirdness trait of his.

Also, him dropping this year could easily by explained by Halo 2 not being recent anyway. It's really not a big fluctuation that raises alarm bells; we see bigger shifts regularly. Master Chief has never really proven to be any more weird than anyone else.

There are three reasons to believe in him being weird (and one of them, the match against CATS, I dismiss totally as evidence). The others are vs. Felix and vs. Crono. vs. Crono is easily explained by picture advantage, or yearly shifts. By itself it means very little.

The thing about the Felix match is that people's retrospective perceptions have shifted greatly from pre-match expectations. Now, people are like "Who's Felix?" It's as if people have completely forgotten that Felix was one of the most popular upset picks that year before the contest even started. Not only did Felix not come out of nowhere, but he was a very popular pick to win the match outright - and this was before any myth about abnormally non-linear performances (no one is truly linear, but there's not much reason to believe Chief is much different from anyone else). It was because people just didn't think Chief was all that popular here, and that someone like Felix could beat him. Also someone from Felix's game, Isaac, didn't really perform worse than a Ken/Ryu same-game relationship. Felix would no doubt be crap fodder today, but back then a large number of people thought him capable of beating Chief pre-contest, without expecting any abnormalities from Chief (outside of lack of Chief's vote drawing ability due to unpopularity).

The Chief myth has never had much evidence for it, and in that regard has been one of the biggest asymmetries we've seen in terms of evidence vs. level of acceptance in this topic. It's become an article of faith.
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