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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 416
| WarThaNemesis | Posted 11/6/2006 9:03:30 AM | message detail |
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Putting 58% on Ryu is not bad at all. Axel looked like 2k5 Riku, which
makes complete sense. And considering that Sora/Snake is about as valid
as Snake/Bowser, Mega Man has performed pretty much how I thought he
would. --- War13104 had something weak beating something strong and he looks smarter than you or something - TessaTestarossa |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:03:31 AM | message detail |
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From HoorayProxies Samus/Frog fishyness? Are you ****ing me right now? Are you? I guess Frog competing with Snake seemed just dandy to you. No, but one would think Frog would've fallen somewhere between 50/50 with Snake and getting his ass blown out by Samus instead of where he did. TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:04:09 AM | message detail |
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And yet despite the horrendous overratedness of the Dream Division, they somehow end up being...underrated? Well, Rikku still underperformed against Samus, so she's not necessarily underrated. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| zwong1 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:04:41 AM | message detail |
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Just a lame question. Can Auron boost be slightly stronger than Sora
boost. I mean Kh2 brought in a totallly different fanbase(younger kids)
for Auron. --- I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:05:55 AM | message detail |
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No, I'm not holding it against you. I'm merely saying that Aeris
looked bad, and ended up doing bad, and Mega Man looks to be the same.
There's nothing wrong with counting Mega Man out. Mega Man went up against 2 KH2 characters and his performance against Ryu was only bad if you compare it to last year's. Aeris was outperformed on KOS-MOS by Luigi by a good amount. I know KOSy was probably stronger, but that was quite the underperformance. TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:06:29 AM | message detail |
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From zwong1 BlAcK TuRtLe, who do you have as your male and overall champ. Crono/Samus TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| BlastTheSpeaker | Posted 11/6/2006 9:06:49 AM | message detail |
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I think the possibility of that is quite strong, zwong ~Hiko~ --- Blast the Speakers!! WWEGSB FPV Main Roster Member |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:07:05 AM | message detail |
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From zwong1 Just a lame question. Can Auron boost be slightly stronger than Sora boost. I mean Kh2 brought in a totallly different fanbase(younger kids) for Auron. If Auron's boost was stronger than Sora's, he'd be winning this match 55-45 right now <_< TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/6/2006 9:10:02 AM | message detail |
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I doubt it, it not like Auron didn't already have a lot younger kids who loves him. --- Supporter of Megaman and Sonic |
| zwong1 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:10:23 AM | message detail |
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Black Turtle, sorry but i don't get your point. If Auron does indeed
win this match with a score 55-45, Auron will be having 16.5% boost
against Crono and that is much much much stronger than Sora boost. --- I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman. |
| zwong1 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:13:50 AM | message detail |
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OK. Sorry about it, i thought Auron fanbase was more towards teenagers and adults. --- I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:14:14 AM | message detail |
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Just a lame question. Can Auron boost be slightly stronger than Sora
boost. I mean Kh2 brought in a totallly different fanbase(younger kids)
for Auron. It could...but it's not. There are several factors against that: 1. FFX is a PS2 game. Part of the argument for the PS1 characters was a renewal on a new system, so the effect for Auron will be smaller. 2. Another part of the argument for the KH boost was that it boosted Square in general. A sequel won't be able to do that as much. 3. Others suggested that it got people to play the FF games. If they've already done that, Auron's boost won't be as big. 4. Sora's the main character. Auron's in one level. 5. Auron was stronger than Sora to start with. If Auron's boost was bigger than Sora's, Crono would absolutely demolish Mega Man. Even though I do think Crono's win would be larger this year, it's not going to turn into an Ulti-style blowout. Aeris was outperformed on KOS-MOS by Luigi by a good amount. I know KOSy was probably stronger, but that was quite the underperformance. And Mega Man was outperformed by Bowser on Ryu. What's the difference? --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2006 9:16:07 AM | message detail |
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So, what does this do for Sonic/Crono? I can't honestly see that there's a favourite either way. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 88/92 Today: Crono |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:17:32 AM | message detail |
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Mega Man was barely outperformed by Bowser in a match that seemed odd from the day it happened. Aeris was outperformed by Luigi by about 5%. The same Luigi who went on to job against Tifa. And just out of curiosity, assuming a constant Sonic, how different is Zero's value? TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/6/2006 9:17:41 AM | message detail |
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I think we should focus on another thing than trying to figure out how
strong Auron is. What we should focus on is how Crono has lost above 4%
during the day on every oppnent, so far, and since Auron wins some
random updates before the afterschool vote, I can't see him ending
below 44%. Sonic: That's no good! --- Supporter of Megaman and Sonic |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:18:32 AM | message detail |
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From XIII_rocks So, what does this do for Sonic/Crono? I can't honestly see that there's a favourite either way. Considering Crono was the overwhelming favourite, this match being up in the air is a testament to Sonic's apparant beatdown of Luigi on steroids. TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:19:19 AM | message detail |
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I'll say it now, if Sonic doesn't have 55% before the morning against Sonic, he'll be pretty damn screwed. TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:19:34 AM | message detail |
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Change the first Sonic to Crono >_< TuRtLe ~~~ 81/88 in the contest. My analysis topic here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30498383&page=1 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 9:20:34 AM | message detail |
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| The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 9:20:53 AM | message detail |
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I can't see how people can go the "CRONO DROPPED!" road after we've
already seen him beat down Bowser with 57.5%. Bowser can't be THAT
weak.... can he? --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| BDawg | Posted 11/6/2006 9:21:00 AM | message detail |
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Well clearly Crono better come out of the night with a good lead
against Sonic because clearly he's gonna be bleeding votes all day.
Which sounds like an epic match to me! And also it's good for Auron to
finally show he's near-elite instead of getting caught up in SFF and
looking like crap. --- Should I start running now? |
| zwong1 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:22:00 AM | message detail |
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I say Auron may be considered a elite after this match. --- I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:34:25 AM | message detail |
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I can't see how people can go the "CRONO DROPPED!" road after we've
already seen him beat down Bowser with 57.5%. Bowser can't be THAT
weak.... can he? Well, Luigi did do better than Bowser did on Kirby. At this point, I'd probably put Bowser right around Zelda 2k5, which would imply a small drop for Crono. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| nobleIII | Posted 11/6/2006 9:40:56 AM | message detail |
| Auron is just warming up..he will I think tear this % by higher numbers in about 2hrs, when the after school vote is about to start..do you guys think Auron breaks 45%? I think it's highly likely. |
| Osfan | Posted 11/6/2006 9:46:21 AM | message detail |
| I come on mid day to find the same arguments ive
seen everyday for the past week. I mean we see an overperformance and
all of a sudden everyone is calling for upsets next round. Its a few
days away just wait it out and the world will know. But seriously its
not like we can ignore the SFF factors in many of the match ups that
are making the favorites look bad... --- "I'll do it with my magic!" Tellah-Final Fantasy 4 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 9:50:03 AM | message detail |
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Auron is guaranteed to at least match Vincent's % last year. 45.5% is
probably the ceiling Auron could hope for at this point. 45% is
definitely within reach. Regardless of Crono's value, it would mean Auron is projected to beat Bowser with over 52.5%. Impressive for Auron no matter what IMO. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 9:52:24 AM | message detail |
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Great performance here by Auron, and he's only gunning to look better
at this rate. Looks like Sub-Zero scared me out of going low for
nothing -- though, Jeez Louise, it's looking like he and Scorpion could have something akin to a Ryu/Ken relationship after all. Unless of course you want to say that Bowser was even MORE overrated, that Crono dropped, and Sonic is looking good to upset next round. I don't buy it (obviously), but Sonic/Crono should definitely be a match to watch. Now on a less enthusiastic note, the conclusions being drawn in this topic are absolutely ridiculous. EC is the biggest particular offender, because aside from his 'normal' inability to accept KH2F that tends to border on psychosis or accept that Samus might not be worth 55% on Mario, he's flip-flopping more than Heroic Mario after a new game release. How much did Sora need in order to make Mega Man susceptible to upsets from a slew of potential Noble Nine breakers -- not just Snake -- according to him? 46% (oh heavens, he only got 45.72). How much did Snake need to be favored against Mega Man? 57.5% (oh heavens, he only got 57.16). I'm tired of the revisionist history that tries to excuse performances that don't go as expected. Mega Man's performances were ALL bad, and that'll hold true even if he goes on to beat Snake with ease. That's all that really needs to be said, as every other avenue of discussion has been more or less milked dry. Just wait for the match, talk about something else, take up crocheting, anything else...I'm tired of the excuses. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 10:01:23 AM | message detail |
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At this point, I'd probably put Bowser right around Zelda 2k5, which would imply a small drop for Crono. I don't know if a .27 drop would indicate a "drop" though >_> --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 10:04:58 AM | message detail |
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I come on mid day to find the same arguments ive seen everyday for
the past week. I mean we see an overperformance and all of a sudden
everyone is calling for upsets next round. Its a few days away just
wait it out and the world will know. But seriously its not like we can
ignore the SFF factors in many of the match ups that are making the
favorites look bad... And all of those overperformances, except Dante/Ryu and Luigi/Zero, seemed to mean that the overperforming character was stronger...and really, those two kind of cancel each other out. I don't know if a .27 drop would indicate a "drop" though >_> Meh, that makes it that much more likely that Sonic will beat Crono. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 10:07:00 AM | message detail |
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Preliminary stats through the Sweet Sixteen: Samus Aran – 41.69% Crono – 39.87% Solid Snake – 39.10% Mega Man – 38.79% Sonic the Hedgehog – 38.50% Vincent Valentine – 36.89% Sora – 35.52% Ganondorf – 34.98% Princess Zelda – 34.98% Auron – 34.69% Bowser Koopa – 33.94% Tifa Lockhart – 33.57% Yoshi – 33.50% Squall Leonhart – 33.16% Dante Sparda – 33.13% Ryu – 32.55% Luigi – 30.65% Leon Kennedy – 30.24% Aeris Gainsborough – 30.17% Riku – 30.01% Yuna – 29.56% Kirby – 29.23% Zero – 28.38% Sub-Zero – 28.01% Kratos – 27.92% Master Chief – 27.48% Rikku – 25.85% Gordon Freeman – 25.62% Alucard – 24.70% Axel – 23.37% Chun-Li – 23.15% KOS-MOS – 23.14% Ryu Hayabusa – 23.06% Princess Peach – 22.79% Jill Valentine – 22.78% Prince of Persia – 22.39% Kairi – 21.57% Phoenix Wright – 21.42% Claire Redfield – 20.67% Captain Falcon – 20.60% Lara Croft – 20.58% Tidus – 18.56% Marle – 18.23% Tingle – 17.33% Sheena Fujibayashi – 17.30% The Boss – 17.09% Ada Wong – 16.86% Amy Rose – 16.00% Ivy Valentine – 15.99% Nidoran F – 15.13% CATS – 14.82% Kasumi – 14.47% Terra Branford – 14.38% Soma Cruz – 13.96% Celes Chere – 13.30% Joanna Dark – 12.98% Lenneth Valkyrie – 12.93% Roll – 12.24% Sarah Kerrigan – 11.88% Cortana – 10.32% Carmen Sandiego – 9.74% Alyx Vance – 9.24% Jade – 8.13% Princess Daisy – 7.70% Note that these stats assume Auron with 43.50%, which he will almost certainly finish above before the match is over. Time Division Stats Crono – 50.00% Auron – 43.50% Bowser Koopa – 42.46% Leon Kennedy – 37.83% Sub-Zero – 35.12% Master Chief – 34.45% Alucard – 30.97% Captain Falcon – 25.84% Next post: Some "What if?" scenarios! --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 6: Han Solo - W, 28-26 |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/6/2006 10:07:50 AM | message detail |
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The better Auron does, the better Ganon, and thusly Samus look Err, that's not exactly the case. Auron has a legitimate reason to be performing really well here that doesn't deal with being underrated, though that is undoubtedly some of it. Most of it, however, is Kingdom Hearts II. --- "Let's face it: the princess Zelda has always been a symbol of sexual desire." |
| janembaman | Posted 11/6/2006 10:07:51 AM | message detail |
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Stupid question but....Who is Megaman biggest fan here? I mean,someone like Smurf...just Megaman fanboy --- laff |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/6/2006 10:08:50 AM | message detail |
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Nice to see so many characters below Cats >_> --- Supporter of Megaman and Sonic |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 10:08:54 AM | message detail |
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SHINE GET 64 is the board's resident MM fanboy I believe, though comparing him to Smurf would be a bit insulting... ...okay, more than a bit. --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2006 10:14:45 AM | message detail |
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oh, now come on. this match has as much SFF as Tifa vs. Vyse. even
if their genre and company are the same, Crono and Auron come from
completely different series and generations. i seriously doubt there is
much, if any, significant SFF today. give Auron credit where credit is
due! Notice I said "same-fanbase" and not "SFF" -- I wasn't trying to imply that one character was doing better or worse than they normally would, but was instead trying to point out that most matches that share a fanbase typically feature less changes in trends through-out the day. I'm givin' Auron every bit of credit here for the most part, but I still think Crono and Auron share a very similar fanbase...there's just no over-whelming favorite between them. --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 10:17:51 AM | message detail |
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I wasn't trying to imply that one character was doing better or
worse than they normally would, but was instead trying to point out
that most matches that share a fanbase typically feature less changes
in trends through-out the day. Matches with the same fanbase feature more static percentages than other matches. I hope you're not trying to say that this match has static percentages... --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2006 10:18:49 AM | message detail |
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What happens if you extrapolate The Boss by using Celes = Terra 2005
and completely ignore the Tifa match, Leon? (Because Tifa/Boss was
obviously BS) (I asked that in the last topic, think you missed it. nm --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 84/88 Today: Sonic |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 10:20:49 AM | message detail |
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Boss comes out to about 23.97 on Base Link. Though I think you'd have to be insane to believe that one --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 10:23:34 AM | message detail |
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If Auron gets 43.87% on Crono, he is equal to Ganondorf through Vincent through Sonic 2005 If Auron and Ganondorf are equal, Crono defeats Sonic with 51.72% If Bowser and Luigi are equal, Sonic defeats Crono with 53.23% If Yoshi and Luigi are equal, Sonic defeats Solid Snake with 53.54% If Bowser and Yoshi are equal, Crono defeats Solid Snake with 50.33% If Bowser and Ganondorf are equal, Crono defeats Sonic with 53.16% If Sora and Bowser are equal, Crono defeats Mega Man with 53.46% If Sora and Ganondorf are equal, Sonic defeats Mega Man with 50.32% If Yoshi/Luigi 2004 remains true, Solid Snake defeats Sonic with 50.96% A lot of those are stretches, obviously, but that's to show extremes. Basically, this should tell you that the male bracket is up for grabs. The character who seems least likely to win the whole thing is Mega Man because it's hard to find a scenario where he beats Crono that isn't...out there. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 6: Han Solo - W, 28-26 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2006 10:24:46 AM | message detail |
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Right, but considering his main fanbase is most constant or
night-oriented, his KH2-pull will only help a lil' more for his
day-time vote. You don't see Squall with a killer day-vote or anything,
and he has been in every KH game... ...but this is Crono, so Auron should still look pretty good with it, even if it is a same-fanbase match. This was originally what I said that cyko had replied to (which I quoted just above). I think everything I said here is logical once you understand I didn't mean same-fanbase as SFF. --- Diddy did it. Diddy did it. DAMMIT! What didn't Diddy do?! |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/6/2006 10:25:57 AM | message detail |
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Umm, yeah. o_O That puts her at like Axel's level...no ****ing way. Then again, MM could have dropped by a ton to make that feasible !! Meh, shove her down a percent or so...I think she could definitely give Claire a match. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/6/2006 10:27:04 AM | message detail |
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So if Sonic wins the male bracket, more than one noble nine character will end up weaker than Vincent? --- Supporter of Megaman and Sonic |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 10:27:08 AM | message detail |
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By the way, what does Yoshi get on Luigi if a constant Hayabusa is assumed? --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 10:28:35 AM | message detail |
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So if Sonic wins the male bracket, more than one noble nine character will end up weaker than Vincent? That depends entirely on how close the NN matches are. I don't see Crono doing worse than Vincent on Sonic, and at this point, I don't think Vincent will outdo Snake, either. MM is fair game though. --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 10:29:27 AM | message detail |
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If Hayabusa is constant, Yoshi gets 55.58% on Luigi, but it also puts him at 34.50% on BL, for what it's worth. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 6: Han Solo - W, 28-26 |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 10:30:29 AM | message detail |
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| THEJackSparrow | Posted 11/6/2006 10:31:54 AM | message detail |
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By the way, that would put Solid Snake at over 40% on BL, meaning he could give Samus a tough fight. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 6: Han Solo - W, 28-26 |
| janembaman | Posted 11/6/2006 10:32:41 AM | message detail |
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If MM lose to Snake and Crono lose to Sonic,then IMO its the weirdest contest ever GF finally won Luigi killed Zero Yuna making the final 8 (contest setup let her make it this far,but whatever) Sub-Zero beat MC,and we had the lowest % predication in the first round ever Magus and Knuckles stayed out but Tingle made it in --- laff |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 10:33:11 AM | message detail |
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If Hayabusa is constant, Yoshi gets 55.58% on Luigi, but it also puts him at 34.50% on BL, for what it's worth. No, I meant going through Luigi/Zero/Hayabusa and Yoshi/Dante/Hayabusa...or is that what you gave me? --- "Luckily, I brought my smart sword. It won't hurt anyone 'friendly'. In fact, it makes them talk!" - Princess Zelda |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 10:39:31 AM | message detail |
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I think by doing that, Yoshi beats Luigi with 50.23% of the vote.
Certainly does wonders for the Yoshi = Bowser = Luigi argument... --- *kills self* Commit it to memory. |
