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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 416

YoAriel33 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:40:36 PM | message detail
Heh, it looks like Snake will be the only character to DENY all non-Noble 9 challengers of breaking 45%. God damn I love you Snake.
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Yesmar | Posted 11/6/2006 9:40:55 PM | message detail
And yet Snake still puts up 57% on Yoshi with his worst sprite ever !! Aw yeah.

I think you might just be cheering for Snake, but...

He did have an identifiable face pic in the background, and Frog and Bowser have proven to be overrated.

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Majin Lou | Posted 11/6/2006 9:41:07 PM | message detail
Oh ****, Tifa's dying now.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/6/2006 9:42:18 PM | message detail
I really think that the picture is hurting Samus here. Plenty of people have seen the trailer and the name Samus should attract voters, but the same could be said for Solid **** and Snake bombed with that pic.

There's a big difference between a guy who looks like a turd, and a hot girl in skin-tight clothing. This isn't a Snake-level pic factor we're seeing here.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:42:31 PM | message detail
Oh ****, Tifa's dying now.

Getting over 44% in an update is "dying"?
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Majin Lou | Posted 11/6/2006 9:43:43 PM | message detail
Why yes, yes it is.

*gets smacked*
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:44:37 PM | message detail
There's a big difference between a guy who looks like a turd, and a hot girl in skin-tight clothing. This isn't a Snake-level pic factor we're seeing here.

Is it? Zero-Suit Samus is, I believe, in one game: Metroid: Zero Mission. That is also, I believe, her least popular game. I wouldn't be surprised if a large proportion of her fanbase didn't recognize her. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if a large proportion of her fanbase thought that the character in the SSBB trailer was someone entirely different.
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Majin Lou | Posted 11/6/2006 9:47:11 PM | message detail
Heh, Tifa gets beat 99 votes one update only to win the next update by 6. Yay randomness. </more posting than usually do>
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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 9:47:14 PM | message detail
Samus appears outside of her suit in Zero Mission and in the original Metroid. Not sure about Super Metroid.

And nice update for Tifa.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 9:47:44 PM | message detail
Meh, anyone who's played a Metroid game knows it's a girl under there, and you always see her at the end (and she was in the full Zero Suit incarnation in MP2, as well). If this is hurting Samus it's due to the fanbase that primarily knows her for SSB. Which isn't exactly unexpected...though it begs the question, exactly how weak would Samus be without SSB?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:48:20 PM | message detail
Samus appears outside of her suit in Metroid and Super Metroid for all of 3 seconds.

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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 9:49:46 PM | message detail
Honestly, I originally thought the Zero Suit Samus would only help Samus. I mean, real Metroid fans love Samus outside the suit, right?

This is really a great indicator of how much popularity Samus has soely from Smash Bros.
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Kaxon | Posted 11/6/2006 9:51:05 PM | message detail
Samus appears outside of her suit in Metroid and Super Metroid for all of 3 seconds.

Uh, actually you can play all of Metroid with Samus out of the suit.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 11/6/2006 9:51:26 PM | message detail
If Samus's fans are too stupid to realize that this is the same Samus, then Samus deserves to be doing this badly.

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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 9:52:20 PM | message detail
This also explains why Samus does well in the contests, but Metroid always fails.

Samus is only popular thanks to Smash Bros. No one plays Metroid games.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/6/2006 9:53:19 PM | message detail
Which isn't exactly unexpected...though it begs the question, exactly how weak would Samus be without SSB?

The same might be asked of any Nintendo character. DK, Kirby, Luigi, Zelda, and even Mario and Link no doubt gain substantially from SSB/M. Just look at what KH/2 did for Squall to get an idea what SSB/M does for Samus. Could Squall 2k6 beat Samus 2k2?
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/6/2006 9:53:24 PM | message detail
It almost seems strange to blame this performance on the picture just because it isn't a bad one. It's not like Snake's unrecognizable sprite from the 80s before Metal Gear really took off and before people really started liking him. Samus looks good in the picture, she's got the name down there, and there's even the ship in the background.

...But I can't think of any other reason for Samus to perform this poorly other than that picture.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 9:53:39 PM | message detail
http://www.smashbros.com/en/characters/chara5/img_main.html

I'm begging you, Ceej. Use it.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 9:55:05 PM | message detail
The same might be asked of any Nintendo character. DK, Kirby, Luigi, Zelda, and even Mario and Link no doubt gain substantially from SSB/M.

But not that substantially.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/6/2006 9:55:57 PM | message detail
I'm surprised no one has tried to tie this in with the Sephiroth/Bowser/Ganondorf fiasco in the villains contest.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 9:57:03 PM | message detail
The thing is...do people even know that there is a male and female half? It's not overt, like it was with the Villains Contest...nor is Samus that overwhelming of a favorite. But it is possible, I'll wager.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:57:15 PM | message detail
I would be willing to bet that without SSB and SSBM, Mario Link Ganondorf and Luigi would be the only strong Nintendo characters.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/6/2006 9:57:28 PM | message detail
Oh, and Yoshi and Bowser

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/6/2006 9:57:51 PM | message detail
I'm surprised no one has tried to tie this in with the Sephiroth/Bowser/Ganondorf fiasco in the villains contest.

I've always thought of that for a reason why Zelda might have been performing better in previous rounds. Doing better because she's up against other females and there is where she'd be more likely to perform well...but I didn't figure that Samus would get hurt by this, especially after she beat Rikku down right around where the expectations put her.

But I guess Sephiroth didn't exactly look bad until then either.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/6/2006 9:58:10 PM | message detail
This makes no sense though. Why would Samus benefit so MUCH from Smash Bros? If it's all she really has then why is she a N9er?
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Keno316 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:00:09 PM | message detail
This makes no sense though. Why would Samus benefit so MUCH from Smash Bros? If it's all she really has then why is she a N9er?

*looks at Crono*
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2006 10:00:24 PM | message detail
It almost seems strange to blame this performance on the picture just because it isn't a bad one. It's not like Snake's unrecognizable sprite from the 80s before Metal Gear really took off and before people really started liking him.

Just to add to this, Solid Snake did better than expected against Squall with a MGS4-picture of himself.
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transience | Posted 11/6/2006 10:00:46 PM | message detail
whelp, gotta hope this is all picture factor. I don't believe it, but this is pretty pitiful either way. Samus might fall all the way to 51% or something overnight.

I'm gonna love it if Samus is constant and Peach is at 30% or something.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:00:52 PM | message detail
This makes no sense though. Why would Samus benefit so MUCH from Smash Bros? If it's all she really has then why is she a N9er?

Exactly. Her primary strength does not come from Smash. Why do people want to ignore the old Metroid games as well as the much beloved Metroid Prime (series)? It would make no sense.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:02:27 PM | message detail
I'm gonna love it if Samus is constant and Peach is at 30% or something.

Same. I don't think it's that unrealistic for Samus to beat the male winner without much trouble. If she gets past Zelda, that is.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/6/2006 10:03:34 PM | message detail
I'm gonna love it if Samus is constant and Peach is at 30% or something.

Constant? She's totally underrated, man !! =p

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2006 10:03:41 PM | message detail
1) People say Kirby's primary strength comes from SSB/M. Let's pull that into question too then.
2) Metroid Prime wasn't out before the 2k2 contest, and Samus was still able to beat Sonic and compete with Sephiroth.
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Cecil | Posted 11/6/2006 10:04:54 PM | message detail
Exactly. Her primary strength does not come from Smash. Why do people want to ignore the old Metroid games as well as the much beloved Metroid Prime (series)? It would make no sense.

It would not be wise to overlook the fact that some strength does come from SSB series, the new SSB hasn't come out yet and Tifa has the HKII boost. It seems like difference in strength is only temporary at best.
Big Bob | Posted 11/6/2006 10:05:23 PM | message detail
By beating Luigi, Sonic has proven that he is no longer fallible to Super Smash Bros. Samus and Snake will bow beneath him. Crono is his only roadblock.

</nonsensical babble>
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Draco1214 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:08:49 PM | message detail
If Samus gets most of her strength from SSB, then why is she lightyears ahead of the likes of Ness and Captain Falcon?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/6/2006 10:09:43 PM | message detail
This is funny as hell.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/6/2006 10:10:32 PM | message detail
"1) People say Kirby's primary strength comes from SSB/M. Let's pull that into question too then."

Series contest.

"2) Metroid Prime wasn't out before the 2k2 contest, and Samus was still able to beat Sonic and compete with Sephiroth."

Barely beat Sonic. And, iirc, there were some hours of day vote missing from that match that would likely have reversed the match. Also, the game being brought into question as being a major contributor of her strength was already out at the time.

Frankly, I'm thinking last year's match against Mario was more than just SFF. Samus probably dropped as SSBM's power fadded, while other Nintendites grew/maintained due to good facetime on the DS.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:10:42 PM | message detail
Just accept the fact that Samus is a Crono-like mystery, except not nearly as extreme. Please.
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FourthDeus | Posted 11/6/2006 10:11:19 PM | message detail
After this kind of showing, I think Tifa deserves some goddamn music on her Ulti/MMX page.
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greatone10 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:11:58 PM | message detail
Yeah, Metroid and Super Metroid were total fodder in the Games contest, right!?
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transience | Posted 11/6/2006 10:14:49 PM | message detail
if this ends 55-45 and Samus is correctly adjusted last year, Tifa's at 37.52% and Peach is at 25.48%. hmm, I guess that isn't that strange - I tend to forget that Tifa turned a poor showing into a blowout - but it's still higher than I'm willing to go for Tifa. either this picture is doing damage or Samus just isn't the Samus of old.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/6/2006 10:15:42 PM | message detail
"If Samus gets most of her strength from SSB, then why is she lightyears ahead of the likes of Ness and Captain Falcon?"

Well, it's a bad choice to say most of her power. Even with what Tifa is getting on her, she clearly hasn't lost the majority of her support. Metroid is certainly a bigger deal to GF than EB or F-Zero, and chances are the popularity of a character's home game and the popularity of their other apperances (be it SSB or KH) feed off of eachother. SSBM introduced a lot of people to Metroid, making them Metroid fans. Metroid fans saw Samus in SSB and became SSB fans. It's this sorta thing that makes the Nintendo characters so strong to begin with.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 10:17:02 PM | message detail
The fact that Tifa potentially pulling over 49% here will likely be the highlight of my day both elates and saddens me.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/6/2006 10:17:05 PM | message detail
Samus below 53%! Tifa with a 13 vote cut.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/6/2006 10:17:39 PM | message detail
Whoa...

We may see Tifa take the lead in the night here...
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kfleong2000 | Posted 11/6/2006 10:18:53 PM | message detail
Go Samus! This will certainly be a good match though...
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transience | Posted 11/6/2006 10:19:07 PM | message detail
I don't think she'll actually take the lead, but she could win some updates and maybe cut it down to 500 or so.

what I'm wondering is if the "unrecognizable picture" will hurt her more in the daytime than it is right now. again, I don't think it's that much of a factor, but if it is I'd expect day people to go "who?" more than night people.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2006 10:19:22 PM | message detail
Cloud > Link confirmed, baby. Believe it.
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transience | Posted 11/6/2006 10:19:38 PM | message detail
grrr voters
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 11/6/2006 10:19:40 PM | message detail
Samus, you were supposed to redeem yourself this year. What are you doing?!?
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