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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 415

SmurfFAQs | Posted 11/4/2006 9:44:29 AM | message detail
Smurf, you have already witness the downfall of Mega Man and Zero so please spare them. Stop criticizing them anymore.

Kicking characters while they're down is fun. ^_~
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 11/4/2006 9:44:32 AM | message detail
Zero won't be in a character battle ever again.

What makes you say that?
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Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
SmurfFAQs | Posted 11/4/2006 9:45:52 AM | message detail
What makes you say that?

- He scraped into this one.
- Left a bad aftertaste from this contest.
- MM's continued decline.

Take your pick. We've seen it many times before when respectable midcarders lose in round 1 and never appear again. Magus, Vivi, etc.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 9:46:12 AM | message detail
The reason why people believed in Dante>Yoshi was because we never had a clear reading of Yoshi's strength. He was SFF to hell by bowser, Link and Mega Man so most only believed Yoshi to be of decent midcarder.

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I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman.
Janus5000 | Posted 11/4/2006 9:46:24 AM | message detail
Don't forget Shadow!
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/4/2006 9:47:24 AM | message detail
Don't forget Shadow!

XD
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 11/4/2006 9:48:13 AM | message detail
Magus and Vivi, in all fairness, only didn't appear this year because of the female bracket.

Besides, it's not like there aren't characters who have disappointed and never come back. Snake/Frog anyone? Granted, Snake won and all, but...
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Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
BDawg | Posted 11/4/2006 9:49:27 AM | message detail
Geez Megaman I go to bed thinking 57/43 or something and you fall off the table. It's basically impossible to support him now, either you remain neutral or you become a full on Snake supporter. Sora doesn't even crack the top 5 in NN breakers as far as I'm concerened and he's doing this.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 9:50:01 AM | message detail
lol mega man
lol snake being considered a lock
lol stats topic

I didn't think it'd be this bad, but I called a Sora overperformance 2 rounds ago.

Who the hell didn't see this coming?

And I'd take Sora in a rematch over Aeris.

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 9:53:33 AM | message detail
And I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but assuming the match stays the same, and a constant Mega Man, what's Phoenix/Gordon/Tingle's values? >_>

TuRtLe
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EggDragon2001 | Posted 11/4/2006 9:54:41 AM | message detail
I bet this isn't as bad for mega man as it seems. I'm pretty sure Sora will have nearly as much bracket support against mega man as snake does, meaning that sora is getting a ton of bracket votes.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/4/2006 9:55:29 AM | message detail
And, in turn, Snake will also recieve said bracket votes. That doesn't make Megs look any better.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 9:55:34 AM | message detail
"Who the hell didn't see this coming?"

Apparently a lot of people that don't realize KH2 came out this year.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 9:56:49 AM | message detail
"And, in turn, Snake will also recieve said bracket votes. That doesn't make Megs look any better."

Mega Man has never had the brackets on his side in a match that counts. Hasn't stopped him from winning in the past.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/4/2006 9:56:52 AM | message detail
- He scraped into this one.
- Left a bad aftertaste from this contest.
- MM's continued decline.


Thanks to the female contest AND bad bracket-placement...then, for what it's worth, Mega Man's decline isn't really PROVEN yet.


And I'd take Sora in a rematch over Aeris.

Please, goodness, yes, do that and rally as many others as you can to do the same.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 9:56:59 AM | message detail
ChichiriMuyo, yeah Kh2 came out and gave Sora 8-10% boost against Mega Man.
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Terran | Posted 11/4/2006 9:59:00 AM | message detail
I think Mega Man has disappointed in every one of his matches so far this year but I think this has been by far his worst performance.

Just a year ago Snake got 65.26% against Sora, now Mega Man is having trouble breaking 55%.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 9:59:41 AM | message detail
Well, I hear tale he's actually likable this time, so that'd explain it.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 10:00:21 AM | message detail
Snake SFF'd Sora. It's hardly comparable.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:00:52 AM | message detail
ChichiriMuyo, yeah you are right. You really are a wise person.
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I am a Singaporean and I hope Snake will beat Megaman.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:00:54 AM | message detail
If he's so likable, why didn't he quadruple Tingle? Or obliterate Gordon?
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/4/2006 10:00:57 AM | message detail
Just last year Mega Man got 68% against Yoshi, whereas this year Solid had to fight for 57%.

Similar situations.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:01:48 AM | message detail
I am referring to the post above the SFF post.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:01:49 AM | message detail
From Terran
I think Mega Man has disappointed in every one of his matches so far this year but I think this has been by far his worst performance.

Just a year ago Snake got 65.26% against Sora, now Mega Man is having trouble breaking 55%.


MGS/FF SFF and the most lopsided match pic ever. Not to mention Snake performed 11% worse on Yoshi than MM did last year.

From zwong1
ChichiriMuyo, yeah Kh2 came out and gave Sora 8-10% boost against Mega Man.

Assuming you're taking his 2k5 value as legit. All evidence has pointed to something fishy happening in Snake/Sora, and Snake/Squall is probably the best indication of that.

TuRtLe
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:01:52 AM | message detail
SFF Sora my ass. You can't even pull the console SFF bull**** on this one. How do their fanbases overlap at all?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 10:02:46 AM | message detail
Because for as much as people hate Tingle he's still a Zelda character, and Gordon has a new game on a console (or two) that are actually good ports. That counts a hell of a lot more than a PC exclussive on GF.
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Terran | Posted 11/4/2006 10:02:47 AM | message detail
Snake SFF'd Sora. It's hardly comparable.

Snake and Sora are considered to share a fanbase? What do they have in common other then a console?

In 2004 Samus got 65.85% against Sora too so it wasn't inconsistent with what happened in the past.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:03:18 AM | message detail
From KleenexTissue50
If he's so likable, why didn't he quadruple Tingle? Or obliterate Gordon?

Tingle had LUE support and joke votes, and we already saw what those did to Nidoran F against Samus.

As for Gordon, I think we're looking at a whole new Mr. Freeman, one that can beat some midcarders with ease. Problem is, he probably suffers Master Chief syndrome.

TuRtLe
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:03:28 AM | message detail
From Terran
Snake and Sora are considered to share a fanbase? What do they have in common other then a console?

Same first letter factor.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/4/2006 10:03:50 AM | message detail
Since when was Solid on Samus's level though?
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:03:56 AM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe, i am referring to 2004 Sora not 2005 Sora.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:06:09 AM | message detail
In 2004 Samus got 65.85% against Sora too so it wasn't inconsistent with what happened in the past.

So you'd take Snake over Samus?

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:07:21 AM | message detail
As for Snake/Sora sharing a fanbase, all evidence points to that, unless you think Snake is at Cloud's level after that performance against Squall.

TuRtLe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/4/2006 10:08:08 AM | message detail
Turtle's 'logic' is downright offensive to my senses. "Yeah, Mega Man's underperformed in every match and Snake's impressed in all of his -- but I had a feeling that might happen, so Mega Man's clearly winning without a doubt! Even though I have no actual rationale for this belief, other than the fact that it's clearly impossible for Snake to make up the 52-48 projection from last year (which, by the way, I was completely unaware of until last night!)."

And yeah, we've got Smurf here today, but we all at least know Smurf doesn't buy his own crap. Or precede every nonsensical diatribe of his with "lol"
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:08:57 AM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe, i think you mistaken my point. constant Megaman is supposed to get 63% on 2004 Sora. Unless Sora boosted 8-10% against Megaman due to KH2 this year, i don't really see how Megaman would get only mid 54 on Sora.

Anyway, this is the third time Megaman had underperformed so please stop defending for him anymore.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 10:09:27 AM | message detail
Apparently you don't need more than being on the same console. Look at what MM did to Yoshi, what Snake did two Squall (twice), what Link did to MM. Sharing a console, I'd wager, is the biggest factor in SFF. Bigger than coming from the same company (but that often means shared console space anyway...).
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The_Lady_Ashe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:09:59 AM | message detail
From BlAcK TuRtLe
In 2004 Samus got 65.85% against Sora too so it wasn't inconsistent with what happened in the past.

So you'd take Snake over Samus?

TuRtLe


Yeah. Zelda will SFF Samus into oblivion. Snake will do somewhat better against her in the finals.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:10:16 AM | message detail
SFF the worst excuse for a statsitical anomaly I've ever seen. It's downright pathetic. If you asked the majority of people who were voting for Sora, I'll bet that half of them have never heard of Metal Gear Solid.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:11:02 AM | message detail
And even if Mega Man dropped a bit, Snake still has quite a bit of ground to make up to beat him. The match has gone from Mega Man lock to could go either way, but calling Snake a lock is just stupid.

TuRtLe
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Terran | Posted 11/4/2006 10:11:27 AM | message detail
So you'd take Snake over Samus?

No, but I don't think Samus would decimate Snake. I'm just saying that the last two times Sora faced the lower five of the Noble Nine members, he didn't even come close. And here he is against Mega Man doing about 10% better.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 10:11:38 AM | message detail
However, being off by a few % takes far less than the majority, don't you think? Wow, using the powers of logic and reason FTW right there.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:12:12 AM | message detail
It is just noobs who say Snake>Megaman is a lock. Ignore them.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:12:49 AM | message detail
From KleenexTissue50
SFF the worst excuse for a statsitical anomaly I've ever seen. It's downright pathetic. If you asked the majority of people who were voting for Sora, I'll bet that half of them have never heard of Metal Gear Solid.

Which is why they voted for Sora and the exact definition of SFF. If you asked everyone who voted for Snake, I would guess that a good chunk have played MGS, and voted for Sora in previous matches, but the SFF made them vote for Snake.

TuRtLe
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/4/2006 10:12:50 AM | message detail
That would be because the other half were busy voting for Solid Snake.
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 11/4/2006 10:13:00 AM | message detail
It is just noobs who say Snake>Megaman is a lock. Ignore them.


An we all know that YOU'RE a total veteran, with just below a whopping 90 karma.
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Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/4/2006 10:13:40 AM | message detail
Also: lol link/ganon

TuRtLe
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:13:41 AM | message detail
Don't even start that crap with me. You guy always hide behind your made up "factors" when a match doesn't go exactly like the stats pan out. There's a reason people call them "lol x-stats". They aren't infallable. I'm not saying that Snake is a lock here, and I never had. But the people who are still saying he stands almost no chance are diluding themselves.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/4/2006 10:14:01 AM | message detail
OK , i am a noob too but i did not say Snake>Megaman is a lock.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 11/4/2006 10:14:03 AM | message detail
Karma, lol. As if no one has ever had an alt before.
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 11/4/2006 10:14:52 AM | message detail
Unlike most alts however, zwong isn't an alt.
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Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.