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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 413

MnMZero | Posted 11/2/2006 9:07:12 PM | message detail
Go Snake! Destroy the legend of Solid **** with Super Blue Turd!
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/2/2006 9:08:07 PM | message detail
Snake's terrible day vote will be out in full force thanks to the sprite picture. If he wants to end above 55% he'll probably need to get ~60% before morning X_X
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MnMZero | Posted 11/2/2006 9:09:31 PM | message detail
Okay, people are getting a little too sure-headed about Snake > Mega Man. So what happens if Mega Man still beats Snake without a problem? Everyone switches to Mega Man > the main bracket?
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2006 9:09:39 PM | message detail
heh, Frog actually had a lead on Snake for 15 minutes. he only lost about 2% with the day vote, but that's still 2% to Frog.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:10:11 PM | message detail
Snake gave up comparatively little of the day vote to Squall, who didn't too too shabby against Knuckles...sure, it's a SFF match and that changes things (though it didn't seem to against Sora), but I don't see a titanic collapse here.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 11/2/2006 9:10:18 PM | message detail
Very nice increase by Snake there!

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Mister Mario | Posted 11/2/2006 9:10:50 PM | message detail
How can you lose the day vote to frog
how is that possible
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BDawg | Posted 11/2/2006 9:11:17 PM | message detail
Snake = Nintendo CONFIRMED
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:11:44 PM | message detail
We all know Yoshi collapses under SFF !!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/2/2006 9:11:51 PM | message detail
Snake's looking good. Though, I can't see Yoshi not ripping the percentage to shreds in the day. Pretty much every Nintendo character so far has dominated during the day and with Sprite Snake in effect, it looks good for the Yoshster.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:11:53 PM | message detail
Recall that Yoshi made Dante look as bad as Jill with the day vote (as many were praising Dante's day vote, no less), and this is, well, Snake we're talking about. Losing the day vote to Frog takes skill.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:13:35 PM | message detail
many were praising Dante's day vote

And I'll never understand why they were. Dante is merely average in the day, a little less if you wanted to get specific (which is why he's so bloody consistent). Yoshi just made expected headway there.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2006 9:14:40 PM | message detail
as bad as Jill? Yoshi won the day vote by.. .7%. mmm, I guess Peach only won it by 1%, but Peach didn't exactly dominate the pitiful Tifa in the daytime either.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/2/2006 9:14:56 PM | message detail
From BDawg Posted 11/3/2006 12:11:17 AM #458
Snake = Nintendo CONFIRMED

omg

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/2/2006 9:17:01 PM | message detail
Not many of us thought that Peach had a better day-vote than Yoshi though, either, so it balences out for the most part.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 11/2/2006 9:17:23 PM | message detail
Well, if Snake is Nintendo he'll SFF Mega Man anyway!!!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:19:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, Yoshi definitely has a better day vote than Peach I'd say, and it's a given that he's of course going to win the day by a decent margin. Snake has seemed a lil' better with it this year though, so I don't foresee a Snake/Knux-style collapse.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/2/2006 9:20:37 PM | message detail
small % cut by Yoshi
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:21:41 PM | message detail
Yoshi went from a lead of 0 when the after school vote started to a lead of 1700 before Dante started bringing it down again.
Peach went from a deficit of 1400 to a lead of 300 before Jill started bringing it down again.
Both characters swung 1700 votes, which is why I said what I did. Peach did it with noticeably less total votes, though, which makes the percentages look a little sketchier.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/2/2006 9:32:03 PM | message detail
w00t 63% update.

I would love for Snake to land at what he would be expected to get on Yoshi assuming no SFF on Squall.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2006 9:32:17 PM | message detail
but there's no comparison there. I argued that Yoshi would win the day vote by about 1% and that if Dante could build a lead with the during-school vote, he'd be able to withstand Yoshi's day vote. people were saying Dante was flat-out awful with the day vote which simply wasn't true. the problem was that Mario's deadly morning vote stopped Dante from getting any kind of a lead.

Jill on the other hand is truly pitiful. she lost it to a character who did worse against Tifa in the day than a MGS character.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2006 9:33:12 PM | message detail
and ow, once this Nintendo vote wears off this could get brutal
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:33:21 PM | message detail
Nice update by Snake there. Unlike last year, we don't start smack in the middle of the night vote, so there's more room for Snake to increase his percentage in the night, unlike his match with Bowser last year.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/2/2006 9:33:22 PM | message detail
Snake hasn't looked this good since 2002, and it took a shocking effort from Crono to take him down back then. Barring a complete collapse against Mega Man, it looks like Crono may be the only character standing in Snake's way again.

That is, assuming Snake is performing normally during a sprite round. He gets 63% on Yoshi 2003, but Y2003 was behind SFF with that Bowser match. Should be a goodie next round.

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:35:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, to deny that Yoshi is going to take nice chunks off of this percentage is silly. Snake has proven good nights, Yoshi, as a Nintendo character, and in previous matches, has a good day.

Also, I would take Ryu over Yoshi, even though Bowser beat him soundly. Ryu's back in form this year, and I doubt a Ryu/Bowser match goes that way in the future.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/2/2006 9:38:31 PM | message detail
nooo, go back to 63% updates. You must end this match at 60% and make it look like your match against Squall was all you baby!
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2006 9:38:47 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be too sure about Yoshi bringing this down by a lot. Snake is probably going to go up before he goes down again.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2006 9:40:36 PM | message detail
Holy crap. If Snake can keep this up and not completely fall apart during the day, I'll be ready to either call his match against Squall legit, or give him a Nintendo fanbase. Either Snake is now comfortably above Crono, or he has 2 seperate, and very large fanbases to draw from.

God help anybody who's up against snake after MGS4 and Brawl <_<

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creativename | Posted 11/2/2006 9:42:02 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's a long way off, but if we have a character battle in 2K8 Snake could conceivably challenge Sephiroth.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/2/2006 9:45:06 PM | message detail
From creativename Posted 11/3/2006 12:42:02 AM #479
Yeah, it's a long way off, but if we have a character battle in 2K8 Snake could conceivably challenge Sephiroth.

Eh, not after what Sephy did to Liquid. I'm convinced there's a legitimate Playstation SFF factor out there.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:46:05 PM | message detail
Snake = God
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:46:51 PM | message detail
For those keeping score at home, using a constant Squall and Dante Snake is expected to get 60.09% on Yoshi.

And Snake won't be challenging Sephiroth even after MGS4 and Brawl...maybe indirectly, but if the two faced it'd just turn into the next Snake/Squall.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2006 9:47:04 PM | message detail
That was Liquid though. I daresay FF7 migiht be on the decline by that time, assuming no remakes.

Then again, I would've daresaid that Crono would be on the decline after the 2k2 contest <_<

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 11/2/2006 9:47:57 PM | message detail
I still like the Blue Bomber against Snake.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2006 9:48:28 PM | message detail
Not to mention that after Brawl, Snake will have an entirely new fanbase to draw from. He will be the King of SFF at that point.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 9:48:36 PM | message detail
So really, all you have to do is adjust Yoshi upwards 2.5 on BL for this match thanks to Solid ****, and Snake's looking in good shape to take down Samus this year!
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2006 9:55:55 PM | message detail
Eh, not after what Sephy did to Liquid. I'm convinced there's a legitimate Playstation SFF factor out there.

He would have the Nintendo base by then though. And I do believe in FF7/MGS SFF, but it makes more sense with Liquid - both being light-haired villains, for instance. There just seems to be something about Liquid/Sephiroth that wouldn't be there in Snake/Sephiroth. But Snake/Sephiroth is getting way ahead of ourselves anyway, Snake hasn't even shown to be able to beat Crono yet; it's just that it is a realistically possible thing, and not some loopey idea.

It's not really worth spending too much time discussing yet of course...unless we're in the female bracket ;)


And Snake won't be challenging Sephiroth even after MGS4 and Brawl...maybe indirectly, but if the two faced it'd just turn into the next Snake/Squall.

What next Snake/Squall? The Snake/Squall SFF thing looks to be on very shaky ground again after this.
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zwong1 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:56:22 PM | message detail
Last year, normal Snake would probably only get 56% on Dante, This year, it looks like Sprite Snake can possibly get 60% on Dante and i mean it is the freaking Solid Sprite Snake. Yet, people still don't believe Snake had boosted and they think Megaman would take him easily.
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2006 9:58:24 PM | message detail
Intuitively, I wouldn't expect this particular sprite to be hurting Snake more than 1 or 2 points. He's just so evident in the background. The sprite doesn't even stand out that much.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:58:26 PM | message detail
Yeah, I still do actually. He lost to Mega Man twice comfortably, with a worse loss the second time around. Mega Man still had a good performance on Ryu, discounting last year (which is an admitted...twist, I guess), and Snake's only at 59 here, with the day vote to look forward to. I still have confidence in Mega Man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2006 9:58:40 PM | message detail
Despite Snake boosting, he still has quite a bit of ground to cover to be over Mega Man.

Although, if I were the bandwagoning type, I'd be all over that upset after today.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/2/2006 9:59:33 PM | message detail
You're only cool if you were on the bandwagon before the contest started.
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2006 10:00:54 PM | message detail
Snake/Mega Man is very up in the air right now. Still not willing to call Snake the favorite, but depending on how Sora does he might be. It wouldn't be by much though.

That should be a match worth looking forward to.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 10:02:15 PM | message detail
Snake's only at 59 here, with the day vote to look forward to.

And the night vote, actually.
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Xuxon | Posted 11/2/2006 10:02:15 PM | message detail
Yet, people still don't believe Snake had boosted and they think Megaman would take him easily.

I don't think most or even many people think this. Mega Man may still be the favorite in some people's eyes, but I doubt they're discounting Snake entirely now.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/2/2006 10:04:50 PM | message detail
Come on now guys, let's finish up in here.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2006 10:06:34 PM | message detail
I do wonder if Snake will gain significantly during the night though. Sure this is the Ninty 'Power Hour', but in his match with Squall this was his best time.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2006 10:06:38 PM | message detail
No matter who wins that match, it will be a close one.

We won't be seeing anything like the previous Mega Man/Snake matches.

And it seems as though my random prediction of Snake impressing in all his matches and MM disappointing in all of his is just buildup to a big upset when Mega Man beats Snake might still come true.

Sora is going to make MM look like ass tomorrow.

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 11/2/2006 10:07:05 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Snake!
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