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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 409

Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/28/2006 10:52:48 AM | message detail
he'll be projected to lose with significantly more

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2006 10:58:06 AM | message detail
Maybe Ryu and KOS-MOS just had a bad year.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 10:59:16 AM | message detail
At the same time, to more or less the same extent? I don't believe in coincidences.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/28/2006 11:01:18 AM | message detail
...But unless Aeris took a big drop, KOS-MOS is going to look the best she ever has! >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 11:02:43 AM | message detail
Unless you think XS3 really had a big impact, KOS-MOS is the biggest indicator of an Aeris drop.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 11:04:23 AM | message detail
So perhaps it's best to wait for Zelda/Aeris...if Aeris can't even put up a fight despite FFXII coming out the day of the match, or even keep it respectable, it'll look bad for Mega Man.

BECAUSE ZELDA DIDN'T BOOST ALL RIGHT
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therealmnm | Posted 10/28/2006 11:04:31 AM | message detail
Identity, smidentity. I love Don to death and I know he'd be the weakest of the four here. He's got the least cool weapon and is a total brainiac. The only thing he's really got going for him is that there's simply no one on his level in the TMNT games, particularly the first one.

I dunno. Growing up, we ALL liked Donatello. I don't recall Raph having many fans at all growing up, although he certainly was liked. But there were always plenty of Leo, Mikey, and Don fans. And it's not like Raph kicked ass in the video games either. It might not be by a lot, but I still think that Don is more popular than Raph... at least from what I've noticed growing up.

Meh, are we really talking about Ninja Turtle popularity? On a side note, I'm still pissed they didn't get in the series contest.
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KingBartz | Posted 10/28/2006 11:06:42 AM | message detail
eh... the cartoon came first, didn't it?
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nobleIII | Posted 10/28/2006 11:07:04 AM | message detail
Don > Raph
nobleIII | Posted 10/28/2006 11:07:30 AM | message detail
Btw, got a better question. Shredder vs Mike/Leo, who wins?
Who Cares? | Posted 10/28/2006 11:08:21 AM | message detail
On a side note, I'm still pissed they didn't get in the series contest.

Whenever we get around to another Games Contest, I'm seriously thinking about nominating TMNT2. Been thinking about that for a while.
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/28/2006 11:13:15 AM | message detail
After catching up on most of the happenings since last night, I was struck with the hilarious picture of HM playing through KH2, seeing a FF character do something awesome and yelling out "OH MAN AURON IS GOING TO DOMINATE SC2K5 BOWYEE."

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/28/2006 11:18:34 AM | message detail
Oh, and once again Peach > Chun-Li lives on! Oh man, I totally called that one pre-contest. >_>

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/28/2006 11:23:57 AM | message detail
One more thing I have to throw out there. If these % hold up, Bowser is only projected to beat Ryu with 52% of the vote, and considering in 2K4 Bowser was only supposed to beat Ryu with 51.5% of the vote (I actually had Ryu in my bracket for a while last year, before switching to Bowser), it makes my Bowser overperformed on both Ryu & Snake argument look even better. This will all become extremely apparent when Yuna curbstomps Chunners next round, even though Chunners will have reason to be overrated, it will be even worse than anyone expects. (Samus > Zelda with 61%)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 11:27:11 AM | message detail
I'm convinced that these matches could have virtually any result and EC would use it as proof that he was somehow right about something all along.

Sub-Zero does well tomorrow? "Well I told you all KHF doesn't exist!"
Sub-Zero does poorly? "Well I told you all that Sub-Zero was a chump and MC underperforming + MKA was the only reason he won!"
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2006 11:29:07 AM | message detail
Madden came first too, but that didn't stop him from gettin' into the Series Contest. =P
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therealmnm | Posted 10/28/2006 11:31:44 AM | message detail
eh... the cartoon came first, didn't it?

Doesn't matter in the games/series contest. We've seen the Simpsons and Goldeneye 007 in the games contest. I'm pretty sure that TMNT would have been fair game for the series contest.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/28/2006 11:34:11 AM | message detail
Hmm... I dunno about non-game-originated series being eligible. Games are one thing, since it's just one game, but I don't know if Ceej would have allowed, say, Star Wars or DBZ in the series. Something specific like "the KOTOR series" or "the Budokai series," maybe, but I'm not sure about whole series like "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." Dunno.
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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/28/2006 11:34:35 AM | message detail
I'm convinced that these matches could have virtually any result and EC would use it as proof that he was somehow right about something all along.

Sub-Zero does well tomorrow? "Well I told you all KHF doesn't exist!"
Sub-Zero does poorly? "Well I told you all that Sub-Zero was a chump and MC underperforming + MKA was the only reason he won!"


Funny you mention that! If Squall would have performed well on Snake "KH2F!!" and then last night I see a post by you actually using Squall's performance on Snake to note KH2F. Oh KH!

And I don't know what you're really saying, last night I was calling for Crono with 57%, it looks like he'll be finishing pretty damn close to there.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2006 11:35:15 AM | message detail
He allowed Madden though.
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KingBartz | Posted 10/28/2006 11:40:44 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter 2 Factor!? :P

oh wate
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BDawg | Posted 10/28/2006 11:42:09 AM | message detail
I don't know how Sonic vs. Crono will end but man it will be one helluva night/day swing.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/28/2006 11:44:55 AM | message detail
But Madden's more known as a game franchise than as, say, a TV show or a movie. Granted, he's a real person, but that seems a bit moot. =P
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 11:51:15 AM | message detail
Funny you mention that! If Squall would have performed well on Snake "KH2F!!" and then last night I see a post by you actually using Squall's performance on Snake to note KH2F. Oh KH!

...by all means, root up said post, because clearly one of us doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

And I don't know what you're really saying, last night I was calling for Crono with 57%, it looks like he'll be finishing pretty damn close to there.

My prediction puts Crono around this mark, too. However, our interpretations of the events are VASTLY different, and as far as I'm concerned yours just don't sync up. Ryu 2003 is still something you have yet to explain or even come to terms with.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/28/2006 11:53:17 AM | message detail
As of right now (57.46%), Bowser ends up right around 31.12% on Link 2k5, which only makes Bowser overrated by 1.37% from last year. That's much more reasonable than what we were seeing him at (Luigi 2k5). This also puts Leon Kennedy at around 28% on Link 2k5, a nice 3% boost from RE4.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/28/2006 11:53:47 AM | message detail
...by all means, root up said post, because clearly one of us doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

;_;

Fine... I'll be back! (I have a feeling it's going to end up being a post by Kleenex or something and I just messed up the names)

My prediction puts Crono around this mark, too. However, our interpretations of the events are VASTLY different, and as far as I'm concerned yours just don't sync up. Ryu 2003 is still something you have yet to explain or even come to terms with.

Ryu is totally the new MC. I don't think Crono boosting for absolutely no reason exactly has more credence than holy bowser overration. Plus that still leaves a big problem with Frog 2004, which is even more odd than Ryu 03.



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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 11:56:28 AM | message detail
The thing is, at this point Bowser isn't really overrated by THAT much, unless you want to say that Crono dropped. Certainly nowhere near what Frog would imply.

Going by that, given a half-decent picture for Snake I don't think Yoshi is going to be doing much impressing next round.
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BDawg | Posted 10/28/2006 11:57:46 AM | message detail
Eh Ryu just gets a rise out of having matches with the noble 9, matches with Bowser and Rikku don't do it for him.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/28/2006 12:03:28 PM | message detail
Well I've been thinking Bowser has been overrated by 2% or so, which if Crono stays around here, or increases a bit is pretty reasonable. I'm not calling for Yoshi to actually beat Snake... I don't know why everyone insists on believing I was serious about that. Hell I didn't even just say anything about that. All I said was Peach > Chunners, which everyone gave me an insane amount of **** for saying pre-contest.

And yeah, I found the post where I thought you said that, but you were actually pointing out a flaw in an argument.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 12:05:26 PM | message detail
Chun-Li shoudn't be overrated by *that* much either though...and if Bowser overperformed on Ryu, what's to stop him from doing the same to Chun-Li? Peach certainly hasn't done anything to prove herself yet, unless you think barely beating a character who was skirting the fodder line in her last appearance is impressive. Both have looked uninspiring so far.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/28/2006 12:07:54 PM | message detail
if Bowser overperformed on Ryu, what's to stop him from doing the same to Chun-Li?

OMG AN ARGUMENT FOR CHUN > YUNA THAT KINDA WORKS

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/28/2006 12:08:34 PM | message detail
Going by that, given a half-decent picture for Snake I don't think Yoshi is going to be doing much impressing next round.

You would think that, because you don't have a soul. If Frog can get 48%, and Frog beat Riku, and Yoshi beat Riku better than Frog, than, clearly, Yoshi over Snake is a distinct inevitablity.


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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2006 12:09:42 PM | message detail
The thing is, Magus and Frog obviously overperform with sprites. It's how Frog did so well on Snake (combined with Solid ****), and Magus got 35% on Link. Yoshi, not so much.

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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/28/2006 12:10:51 PM | message detail
But haven't the only times we've seen Yoshi's sprite been in two SFF matches? (Link 2004, Mega Man 2005) Not sure if there was room for overperformance there or not.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2006 12:12:36 PM | message detail
Still, he seems to do just fine without sprites. Magus and Frog seems to need sprites to be really strong.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/28/2006 12:13:46 PM | message detail
Chun-Li shoudn't be overrated by *that* much either though...and if Bowser overperformed on Ryu, what's to stop him from doing the same to Chun-Li? Peach certainly hasn't done anything to prove herself yet, unless you think barely beating a character who was skirting the fodder line in her last appearance is impressive. Both have looked uninspiring so far.

If Bowser is overrated 2% in the stats, then Chunners should be a little more overrated than that in the stats, which puts her nearly equal with Jill 2K4. All I said was the hope of Peach > Chunners lives on, not that it was a lock. And if Bowser overperformed on Chunners too, then it wouldn't be a Bowser overperformance, it would be a Bowser underperformance against Kirby, and Crono would be looking damn good right now. I personally don't believe that, and there's no way to say which one is right, both ways bring up flaws using past years stats.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/28/2006 12:23:24 PM | message detail
Chun Li will kick Yuna out of this contest </fanboyism>

And Bowser won an update ^_^
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creativename | Posted 10/28/2006 12:36:02 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure that both Raphael and Michaelangelo would be stronger than Leonardo. Not sure where Donatello would be, but I don't see why people are expecting him to be the weakest.

Overall it seems like predictions on Turtle strength are really split, so they'd probably be pretty close to each other.

I think Shredder would be stronger than Splinter. I think each of the Turtles would be stronger than Splinter, and I'm not sure whether Shredder would be stronger or weaker than the Turtles.

Out of the supporting characters I think Casey Jones would do best. Everyone else would likely be pretty weak.
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creativename | Posted 10/28/2006 12:36:23 PM | message detail
And I still maintain that Darth Vader would beat Link.
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nobleIII | Posted 10/28/2006 12:37:37 PM | message detail
GO BOWSER GOOGOOGOGOG =D, he won teh update.!
therealmnm | Posted 10/28/2006 12:41:52 PM | message detail
Good, Bowser's still gaining. It looked like Crono was putting a stop to that with more frequent 60% updates, but Bowser is responding. The voting trend is really volatile right now, at least by 5-min updates.
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/28/2006 12:45:29 PM | message detail
Bowser is not gaining at all.he is just slowing crono,thus lowering his %

it's funny to see people saying crono is horrible at the day vote when,in fact, there are very few characters who could actually WIN the day vote over him.
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2006 12:46:17 PM | message detail
From __hiei__
Bowser is not gaining at all.he is just slowing crono,thus lowering his %

it's funny to see people saying crono is horrible at the day vote when,in fact, there are very few characters who could actually WIN the day vote over him.


You don't know the definition of winning the day vote, do you?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2006 12:46:48 PM | message detail
Bowser is not gaining at all.he is just slowing crono,thus lowering his %

it's funny to see people saying crono is horrible at the day vote when,in fact, there are very few characters who could actually WIN the day vote over him.


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__hiei__ | Posted 10/28/2006 12:49:36 PM | message detail
i do.Bowser is doing better against crono in the day than he does in the night.by the current definition we have,he is ''winning'' the day vote

that definition makes no sense though,as he is still losing and the lead is still getting bigger.
Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/28/2006 12:50:05 PM | message detail
Will Sonic VS Crono tell us who's stronger between Bowser and Ganondorf?

If Sonic wins, then Ganondorf is stronger. If Crono wins, then doesn't that match have to be ridiculous close for Ganondorf to still be stronger than Bowser?

Obviously I'm not that good with the X-stats.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/28/2006 12:52:24 PM | message detail
Crono beating Sonic doesn't change anything unless Crono wins by more than he's projected to. Ganon is currently stronger than Bowser based on a constant Sonic and constant Crono.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/28/2006 12:53:28 PM | message detail
Unless you think XS3 really had a big impact, KOS-MOS is the biggest indicator of an Aeris drop.

Or Luigi overperformed on her last year!

And there's no way Raph beats Leo on a favorites poll. Mikey, I'll allow.
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nobleIII | Posted 10/28/2006 12:54:50 PM | message detail
Ralph > Mikey?!?? WRONG, ONLY LEO can do that =D
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/28/2006 12:55:31 PM | message detail
Will this topic never learn to ignore/blacklist the idiots that troll with alts? You'd think it would be common sense.

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