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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 409

Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/27/2006 10:28:15 PM | message detail
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Overall prediction percnetage: 41.06%

There were five 0 brackets going into Luigi vs Zero. None of them walked out alive. There was one 1 bracket going into Luigi vs Kirby. It didn't make it out alive either. Because of Luigi, the lowest scoring bracket is now a 2. And there's still the Battle Royale. The top tiers didn't do so great this round. The prediction percentage actually improves as you go down for the first few tiers. The -1s don't crack 40. The -2s do oddly well nearly breaking 50. It isn't until the -7s does a group break 50.

22 people fell off the Top 50 today. guitarboyYFC, ProfessorBen, chillaxin_homie, charmander6000, Skaigear, IFMalice, RagingDragonair, Fuzzles, Stationery__Man, Dark115, Zeratul10009, LeahTsu, BubbleT, Flufflez, Liquid_Snake_64, trannyscience, Luis_Sera89, Ultima_X, Icehawk9902, Grand_Healer, AceMoe and 0zma did not have Luigi winning the match today.

Former #1 RageKage14 and RandomUser2 luck out and manage to stay on the Top 50 dispite getting the match wrong.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2006 10:29:07 PM | message detail
darn you luigi
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/27/2006 10:30:07 PM | message detail
Ganon/Bowser was a nice match before this match began, but I doubt you'll find anyone in favor of Bowser at this point, even his strongest supporters. Ganon just too far ahead at this point.

Until Crono destroys Sonic, anyway.

And there's still a possibility that we may end up with Luigi > Ganondorf, which would be quite hilarious.

But right now I'd prefer to cheer my crazy Sub-Zero > Auron upset.
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/27/2006 10:33:54 PM | message detail
Anyway, congrats on Luigi winning his fourpack, finally making Round 3, and possibly **** up the lol xstats with a potentially weird Sonic/Luigi match.

Of course, if anyone's gonna **** up xstats, it's Crono, apparantly. I really hope Crono destroys Sonic just to make things even more hilarious.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 10:34:15 PM | message detail
At the 2:30 mark, this match has 19458 votes. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Snake/Squall - 22631
Yoshi/Dante - 19631
Ryu/Mega Man - 19167
Sonic/Vincent - 19438
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/27/2006 10:38:03 PM | message detail
It's not really that big, no. I'm not saying that Ganon is ahead of Squall, but just that it is inconclusive right now on who is above who.

Lets wait and see how Sonic does on Crono before we compare the two through him.



You cannot use the previous match with Vincent as evidence to suggest that Squall is ahead because Vincent had plenty of reason to gain this year and looks to have done so.

Squall has reason to boost this year as well. His match against Tidus would suggest it. I am still not sure what exactly happened against Snake. Whether they both boosted and Squall got SFF'd or no SFF... but I do know that Squall improved his score on Snake by 16% points in the past 4 years. If you think all of that comes from his appearance in KH and boost in 2K3 I wouldn't believe it. KHII did help out this year keeping him AT LEAST somewhere near his pace with Vince.



Either way, the two should end up very close to each other regardless. It would probably just be best to put Vincent > Ganon = Squall at this point.

Vincent > Squall > Ganon looks better to me right now based on the numbers.


Ganon/Bowser was a nice match before this match began, but I doubt you'll find anyone in favor of Bowser at this point, even his strongest supporters. Ganon just too far ahead at this point.

Which is one reason why it might be such a good upset pick...

I would pick Ganon.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 10:53:01 PM | message detail
And the love that GameFAQs has for Chrono Trigger never ceases to amaze me. People should NEVER call for Crono to decrease, ever. At worst, he stays constant. He may even get a little stronger, as unusual as that may seem.

Plus, the game just finished 2nd on IGN's Top 100 Games List. Chrono Trigger's seeming timelessness (oh, the irony!) transcends more than just this site, it seems.

And it STILL beats Link to the Past in a rematch!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 10:56:54 PM | message detail
You know, the Noble Nine > Zelda > FFVII > other Nintendo > other FF > Seeding chain that I was pondering earlier in the contest has a grand total of six established losses. Tingle > Sora, Phoenix Wright > Gordon Freeman, Ganondorf > Vincent, Master Chief > Sub-Zero Lara Croft > Chun-Li, and Tingle > Phoenix Wright. And assuming you're a semi-intelligent bracketmaker, it realistically decreases to Ganondorf > Vincent and MC > Sub-Zero as your only losses. That's a leaderboard bracket.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:04:18 PM | message detail
I'm not sure why Zelda gets precedence over FFVII.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:12:07 PM | message detail
...Crono just continues to dominate even more as the night vote wears on.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 11:12:49 PM | message detail
I structured the chain based on 'conventional wisdom', as it were. I obviously didn't follow it, though I'm kind of wishing I had at this point.
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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:13:23 PM | message detail
My humble opinion on Noble Nine performance this year.

Samus-OK match against Nidoran and Good match against Ada Wong

Snake-Good match against Soma and Great match against Squall

Megaman-Below average match with Axel and bad match against Ryu

Sonic-Good match against Cats and OK match against Vincent

Crono-Good match against Captain Falcon and Great match against Bowser
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:13:30 PM | message detail
I'm not sure why Zelda gets precedence over FFVII.

If I had to guess, it'd be primarily because of LoZ being this site's favorite series and Link being their favorite character.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:15:00 PM | message detail
Lets wait and see how Sonic does on Crono before we compare the two through him.

That's basically all we should do on the matter. It's silly to put one ahead of the other when it could easily go the other way. The only thing that is for certain this year is that Vincent is ahead of both of them.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:16:07 PM | message detail
FFVII actually has more wins over Zelda, if you look at it.

Cloud > Link
Final Fantasy VII > Ocarina of Time
Sephiroth > Ganondorf
Vincent > Ganondorf
Link > Cloud x 2

And give me Tifa over Zelda every time.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:16:52 PM | message detail
I'll take Zelda over both Aeris and Tifa.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:16:59 PM | message detail
If I had to guess, it'd be primarily because of LoZ being this site's favorite series

But the favorite game is Final Fantasy VII. I still take it over Ocarina of Time.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:17:16 PM | message detail
And Link has won against Sephiroth twice as well.

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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:17:18 PM | message detail
I would say Zelda over Tifa too.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 11:19:09 PM | message detail
I don't factor Link, Cloud, or Sephiroth into the equation since they're in that 'Noble Nine' tier. That leaves Zelda, Ganondorf, Vincent, Tifa, Aeris, etc.

Although give me Tifa over Zelda every time now. I see no reason for Zelda to be drastically stronger than last year, and Tifa making her debut in KH2 has every reason to give her a very big boost.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:19:10 PM | message detail
Oh right, forgot about Link > Sephiroth

But really, Link is the only Zelda entity that consistently beats FFVII.

Actually, he's the only one.
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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:21:02 PM | message detail
I forgot about Tifa role in KH2. Maybe Tifa>Zelda this year but next year when TP is released, i believe it will be Ganon>Vincent and Zelda>Tifa.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:21:49 PM | message detail
and Tifa making her debut in KH2 has every reason to give her a very big boost.

I would be hesitant to think that. I completely forgot that she was in KH2 until you just mentioned it. She's that forgettable in the game.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:23:03 PM | message detail
...Oh, right, KH2. Eh, I'm really iffy on that large KH2 boost that some people talk about with her. She didn't really do anything. Bleh.

I suppose whenever such a match would occur, I'd be confident enough in Zelda over Tifa thanks to TP. Even now, though, I'd probably end up picking her. I don't really see that match as a foregone conclusion or anything.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 11:23:59 PM | message detail
I have no idea what KH2 you were playing, but Tifa actually had one of the more memorable roles in the game. She has more than her share of scenes that focus on her, whether they be serious or humorous, fights alongside you...it's certainly no Aeris, that's for sure.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:25:09 PM | message detail
I would be hesitant to think that. I completely forgot that she was in KH2 until you just mentioned it. She's that forgettable in the game.

Remember what KH seems to have done for Sephiroth?

Okay, now remember that Tifa is involved in the plotline surrounding that fight in KHII and actually looks pretty cool against Sephiroth.

She's not forgettable.
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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:25:14 PM | message detail
Just a lame question, is FF7 close to being one of the best selling game ever.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:25:41 PM | message detail
Memorable? How is showing up 3 times looking for Cloud and punching a wall memorable? I'd be shocked to find out that she had more than 15 lines throughout the entire game.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:26:01 PM | message detail
Of all the FF characters, I would easily expect Auron to be the biggest person to gain out of them all. So I'm really hesistant to put Tifa even in the same category as him when it comes to a gain. I remember her punching some walls and the fighting alongside of you during that one little stretch toward the end of the game. It was certainly more than Aeris, but it wasn't a Leon or an Auron or a Cloud or a Sephiroth. Her gain should be moderate, if anything.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:26:15 PM | message detail
She's there when you fight Sephiroth. What else does she need for a memorable role in KHII?
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:28:03 PM | message detail
I have no idea what KH2 you were playing, but Tifa actually had one of the more memorable roles in the game. She has more than her share of scenes that focus on her, whether they be serious or humorous, fights alongside you...it's certainly no Aeris, that's for sure.

Yeah, thank you. Tifa's role in KH2 was certainly prominent and definitely cool. Her looks didn't hurt either. But more seriously, she's in the game, and it's reasonable to expect that she got a boost from it.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:28:49 PM | message detail
It really isn't that memorable. You won't forget that she was in the game, but you certainly don't come away from it thinking Tifa was awesome or that she did something cool. Most of the KH characters who seemed to make gains did so because how awesome they were in the game. No one comes away from KH2 without talking about how awesome Auron was or how cool Sephiroth or Leon is...but Tifa is just sort of there and does some stuff. Again, it's no Aeris, but it's certainly not anything like "Whoa! Tifa is going to gain big!"

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:29:18 PM | message detail
Plus, it doesn't hurt that Tifa is one of the few who you could reasonably expect to benefit from Advent Children since she actually, you know, had a role in it.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:29:49 PM | message detail
Exactly. She was there. And that's it. She didn't do anything. She was just...there and watched. Another scene I completely forgot she was in until you mentioned it. No one's going to pay attention to Tifa in the scene when Cloud and Sephiroth are fighting. That's like saying people were pay attention to the 3rd party candidate in a presidential election.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2006 11:30:11 PM | message detail
if anyone would boost from AC, i'd think it would be Tifa. Tifa is really an unknown to me right now, which is a shame since it doesn't freaking matter at all. same with Squall. and Bowser, I guess.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 11:30:22 PM | message detail
Tifa has 19 lines in KH2. Cloud has a grand total of 27 lines.

It's obviously going to be no Auron of a boost -- which you all know I expect to be absolutely gargantuan anyway -- but even a 'moderate' boost gives her the clear advantage against Zelda. You know, the character that has no reason to boost this year.

Next year is a different story of course, but I wasn't talking about that, now, was I?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:31:24 PM | message detail
*looks at watch*

3:30? Just about time for my spelling and grammar to take a dive.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:31:41 PM | message detail
She was just...there and watched. Another scene I completely forgot she was in until you mentioned it.

...And dodges every attempt Sephiroth makes to attack her. I thought that was pretty cool myself.
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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:32:19 PM | message detail
If vincent took over the role of Auron in KH2, he might even beat Sonic or at least be very close to him this year.
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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:32:55 PM | message detail
So, uhh...Any guess as to when Crono is going to stop gaining like crazy? At this point, Bowser's going to have his work cut out to bring this below 59% after all's said and done.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 11:33:22 PM | message detail
If Vincent had been in Auron's place in KH2 in addition to everything else he had, he would have definitely beaten Sonic. And it probably wouldn't have been all that close.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:34:27 PM | message detail
Having no reason to boost doesn't mean she won't boost. It's not as though we have clear reasons for why some characters go up or down. I fully expect Zelda to be a bit stronger this year than she was last by a percentage point or two. Either way, Tifa's KH2 role hardly gives her a huge favor in that match. She'll gain, sure, but I've never agreed with her gaining big. When KH2 doesn't seemed to have created any short of shift, the role is going to be more important...and Tifa's role does not warrant big things.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:36:19 PM | message detail
Much about Tifa warrants big things. That's like, her thing...
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:36:37 PM | message detail
So, uhh...Any guess as to when Crono is going to stop gaining like crazy? At this point, Bowser's going to have his work cut out to bring this below 59% after all's said and done.

Bowser's going to need to hope that he can bring this down during the day because he's not going to match Luigi 2k5 if he doesn't.

In fact, a constant Crono gets 60.72% on Luigi 2k5 and he currently has 61.65%.

...Yeah.

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:37:49 PM | message detail
61.65%? HM apparently hasn't checked the poll in the last 20 minutes!
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:38:15 PM | message detail
Correction: 61.8%!

Looks like I had forgotten to refresh the poll !!

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/27/2006 11:38:21 PM | message detail
Guess that just adds to the Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi > Bowser thing that some people were throwing around.
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zwong1 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:40:40 PM | message detail
It is very strange to me. Megaman got weaker every year when he had at least a new game coming out every year.

On the other hand, Crono popularity never dropped even though he is the main lead of only one game.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 11:41:10 PM | message detail
It would be a really good idea for Bowser to bring this down during the day by quite a bit. If this sort of thing keeps up, Leon will have had to drop in order to get the percentage we saw last round.

...Or Crono boosted.

Bring it down, Bowser, bring it down!

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Sir Crono | Posted 10/27/2006 11:41:58 PM | message detail
Crono boosted! Crono > Samus confirmed!
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