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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 408

DpObliVion | Posted 10/27/2006 9:40:30 AM | message detail
Hooray for Luigi! Hooray for my bracket!

It all comes down to Aeris > Zelda now.....and my BR of course......I'd like to think it's possible that I could win the whole thing, but I won't get my hopes up too high yet.

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Xuxon | Posted 10/27/2006 9:41:25 AM | message detail
According to those percentages posted, Kirby won the early vote, not the night vote. It was the same percentage in the morning as at night. Actually, the way this is going, I bet Luigi gets down around 51-52% of the incoming votes after-school, like the early vote.
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Kaxon | Posted 10/27/2006 9:43:37 AM | message detail
Luigi > Bowser confirmed!

Anyone (besides me) think Luigi, Bowser, and Yoshi might have one of those A > B > C > A situations?
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/27/2006 9:46:48 AM | message detail
Bowser > Yoshi > Luigi> Kirby.


Any matches disprove this?

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DpObliVion | Posted 10/27/2006 9:48:00 AM | message detail
I would think Bowser is too prominent in the Nintendo games to lose to Luigi. Obviously Luigi is prominent too, but I still think Bowser would be able to win just fine.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/27/2006 9:48:16 AM | message detail
Bowser beats Luigi down. The way Bowser clowns Luigi in M&L:SS is priceless.

Right, I understand and agree with that, but I was curious what game does him the most good strength-wise aside from his iconic stature.

Well, as for a game making their character popular, I'd have to say SMRPG for Bowser and either M&L:SS or SSBM for Luigi. Luigi is hilarious in both. PM:TTYD also seems to draw Luigi some fans for his story. But still none of that compares to Luigi's status as a gaming icon in general... One thing can't really define his popularity in the same way that it would for Mario or Mega Man. It's built up popularity over the course of 20 years.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/27/2006 9:49:00 AM | message detail
Basically it's just Luigi doing better on Kirby than Bowser did. But I think Luigi > Yoshi. Not sure about Yoshi vs Kirby.
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/27/2006 10:04:40 AM | message detail
But Yoshi beat Luigi in 2004.

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jonthomson | Posted 10/27/2006 11:27:00 AM | message detail
Hiiiiiii-iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

Er, yeah, seems like I've lost more or less every coinflip match so far, as usual. Useless Kirby.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/27/2006 11:34:10 AM | message detail
Don't look now, but Kirby has won 2 of the last 3 updates, and Luigi's hasn't really made much progress in 40 minutes. Seeing how Kirby actually cut votes off of Bowser's lead with the afterschool vote until the end of the match, and Luigi is already slowing before the afterschool vote really begins, Kirby may yet make this respectable, and cut the lead under 2000 by midnight. And a DK/DH situation is not entirely impossible, taking into account Luigi lost percentage to Ratchet, Squall, and Zero toward the end, and SSB cut SMB's percentage toward the end of that match.
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/27/2006 11:35:39 AM | message detail
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transience | Posted 10/27/2006 11:56:54 AM | message detail
holy morning vote

looks like the afterschool vote is gonna go 50/50 though, so Kirby will definitely cut at the percentage. still, it looks likely he'll finish above Bowser's percentage.
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Kaxon | Posted 10/27/2006 11:59:57 AM | message detail
...what game is Luigi most popular for? I know Mario is most popular for SMB3, but would you say the same for Luigi? How about Bowser? I would think it's safe to say SMW for Yoshi and I would guess SMB2 for Princess, but the game that helps Luigi out the most seems like a puzzle to me...I feel obligated to say SMB1, honestly.

SMB2, I would think... at least, that's when I became a Luigi fan. I don't know why you'd say SMB1, since he does absolutely nothing to distinguish himself there - he is just a palate swap there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/27/2006 12:02:40 PM | message detail
Luigi's Percentage by the Hour!

15:00 | 51.82%
14:00 | 54.04%
13:00 | 55.21%
12:00 | 54.21%
11:00 | 54.65%
10:00 | 53.84%
09:00 | 55.69%
08:00 | 52.69%
07:00 | 53.70%
06:00 | 53.36%
05:00 | 52.45%
04:00 | 53.89%
03:00 | 53.16%
02:00 | 51.94%
01:00 | 51.09%

The after school vote cometh, but Luigi still takes in nearly 52% of the vote. Can he hold up in the next few hours as well? One can only hope!
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 12:02:55 PM | message detail
Holy crap was that morning vote nice to Luigi.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 12:29:48 PM | message detail
Wow, Luigi sure did dominate that morning vote. It looks like the after school vote is going to be a little kinder to Kirby. Don't know if it'll be enough to get him over Bowser's percentage or not.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 12:31:30 PM | message detail
And as I mentioned before, the trends in Sonic/Luigi will be very interesting. They seem to share the exact same trends, but who will do better when should be worth watching. How close can Luigi get in that notorious first hour Nintendo vote?
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Drakken688 | Posted 10/27/2006 12:32:46 PM | message detail
Wow, I expected Kirby to be doing better. He's got his own games, after all. Luigi has...Luigi's Mansion. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just surprising.
RPGuy96 | Posted 10/27/2006 12:33:23 PM | message detail
Kirby was outright beating Bowser at this point, while Luigi is still pulling in a comfortable 51-52% of the vote. I'd be surprised if Luigi's final margin ends up below Bowser's given what we've seen so far.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 12:36:54 PM | message detail
Luigi's Mansion wasn't a bad game though. Plus, Luigi has basically been in every Mario game anyway. Just because he doesn't have a starring role except a couple of times doesn't mean he doesn't have his fair share of fans. I always preferred Luigi to Mario long before the two were anything but palette swaps. Everybody loves an underdog!

Plus, Luigi was AWESOME on the Super Mario Brothers Super Show! Come on, can we really deny that the show has some sort of effect on these characters' popularity?
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/27/2006 12:37:47 PM | message detail
Damn Luigi. He deserves nothing! Kirby is better in every way!
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therealmnm | Posted 10/27/2006 12:41:26 PM | message detail
Plus, Luigi was AWESOME on the Super Mario Brothers Super Show! Come on, can we really deny that the show has some sort of effect on these characters' popularity?

Well duh! I already said that with characters like the Mario crew, their popularity extends beyond their games. I'd bet that Bowser got a lot of his popularity from "King Koopa" of the cartoon series. Sure, it was a different look, but the effect was the same.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/27/2006 12:44:43 PM | message detail
Wow, I expected Kirby to be doing better. He's got his own games, after all. Luigi has...Luigi's Mansion. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just surprising.

And adding to what I said before, having your own game hardly guarantees anything, especially when you talk about a character from a series as popular as Super Mario Bros. Sephiroth doesn't have his own game... does that mean he wouldn't rip Tidus or Yuna a new one? Kirby may have his own series, but said series doesn't have anything on the Mario series as a whole. People tend to exaggerate the whole side character/main character argument.
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Garsha_III | Posted 10/27/2006 12:50:19 PM | message detail
Oh Luigi, why didn't you do this on Squall?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 12:52:33 PM | message detail
I'd bet that Bowser got a lot of his popularity from "King Koopa" of the cartoon series. Sure, it was a different look, but the effect was the same.

He who Koops last Koops best!
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 12:56:58 PM | message detail
For the record, if Kirby 2005 is entirely accurate and there is no over/underperformance of any sort, Luigi would be expected to get 48.53% on 2005 Sonic.
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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 1:09:43 PM | message detail
And then being a Mario proxy gives him the 2% to pull a victory!!

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2006 1:11:56 PM | message detail
...but then Sonic could become a Shadow-proxy and steal the win right back!
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/27/2006 1:12:46 PM | message detail
Or maybe Sonic overperforms on Luigi and gets 70%! :P


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THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/27/2006 1:12:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, let's not automatically assume that the proxy-ism goes in favor of Luigi.

In an actual Mario/Sonic match, would you expect everything to go to form, Mario to overperform, or Sonic to overperform?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/27/2006 1:14:24 PM | message detail
I would go with Sonic to overperform. I think Sonic is expected to do what Shadow got on Mario, and Shadow > Sonic would forever be the worst joke on this board
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/27/2006 1:15:54 PM | message detail
Probably Mario. After all, Samus didn't get rSFF'd by Sonic in 2k4 while Mario humiliated her the next year.

Anyway, I'm again closing my account if Auron wins. Trying to see if I can get a miracle Sub-Zero upset here.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/27/2006 1:34:52 PM | message detail
Bleh Luigi. Oh well, at least Kirby > Zero was true! Still, something ain't right about Bowser = Luigi.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/27/2006 1:35:46 PM | message detail
Kirby's cutting into the percentage now. I wa shoping for Zero>Kirby, too.

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MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/27/2006 1:36:36 PM | message detail
I definitely would expect Mario to overperform against Sonic and not the other way around. I can't say I picture a Mario/Sonic match being all that close.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2006 1:40:00 PM | message detail
I give plenty more credence to Shadow over-performing against Mario than SMW over-performing against Sonic 2, so I'd say Sonic would over-perform before Mario would...but I wouldn't expect a big variation either way.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/27/2006 2:20:00 PM | message detail
I'd laugh hard if Sonic got 70% on Luigi.
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Kaxon | Posted 10/27/2006 2:21:59 PM | message detail
In 2002-2004, I could very well see Sonic having beaten Mario. 2005-2006 however is a totally different story - if Mario and Sonic faced each other now, I'd be expecting a Mario overperformance.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/27/2006 2:22:46 PM | message detail
I definitely would expect Mario to overperform against Sonic and not the other way around. I can't say I picture a Mario/Sonic match being all that close.

Agreed, and I also think Luigi has a better chance of overperforming next round than Sonic does of blowing him out of the water.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 2:22:55 PM | message detail
If Sonic had faced Mario in 2003, how would you have expected him to do?

Of course, times have changed now (I really doubt Shadow gets 45% on Mario today), but I think Sonic can still more or less hold his own.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 2:27:04 PM | message detail
And for the record, I don't think the difference is in the Nintendo boost or anything like that (which you can make an argument for helping Sonic in 2005 as well ANYWAY)...I just don't think Mario gets anti-voted like he used to anymore. The Crono match in 2004 was probably a blessing for Mario in that it removed a lot of that mystique that he had around him...no one likes to hate on an underdog. He's probably capable of 90% performances now.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/27/2006 2:43:11 PM | message detail
Judging by the Zero's and Kirby's performances, Kirby vs. Zero would go as I would've expected last year. Flukes? Is it all Luigi's growth, and that he would 55/45 his past self? If the latter's the case, Zero probably didn't drop...then why should Mega Man? But, then, just -think- how popular Kratos and Leon Kennedy would be compared to their former selves if Mega Man didn't fall, due to making Ryu (and thus Bowser) look better... we'll get a better idea of that when Bowser faces Crono tomorrow, probably.

Well, there's one thing we can learn today. If notable SFF occurs in one match, you can't assume it to be similar in another comparable match...unless Bowser = Luigi or something. Link/Mario and Samus/Mario should've already taught us that lesson earlier.

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/27/2006 3:46:30 PM | message detail
Luigi beating Kirby worse than Bowser makes me want to take a sharpened spork and pierce my testicles in one swift stab.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/27/2006 3:47:54 PM | message detail
Bowser's a leech!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/27/2006 3:49:35 PM | message detail
Not as much a leech as Samus!

(Samus nonsensically leeches off of CT's popularity? Believe when Crono cracks 60% on her somehow)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/27/2006 3:51:43 PM | message detail
What is it about Kirby that makes the votals suck ass? Not even Luigi could prevent it apparently, as this is currently 20,000 votes behind Luigi/Zero.

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/27/2006 3:53:30 PM | message detail
It doesn't make sense to me for strong characters to be bad vote draws... I've never been able to make any sense of it. I'm well aware it exists, and happens all the time, but why?

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EvenMyROgetsB7 | Posted 10/27/2006 3:55:27 PM | message detail
Oh, and assuming this match finishes with 52.5% of the vote for Luigi, and Sonic beats Luigi with 58%, where does PoP end up on BL?

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/27/2006 3:58:02 PM | message detail
Kirby's vote total is only bad when he's up against a Nintendo character.
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