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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 405
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:39:44 PM | message detail |
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MM was a good game, but wasn't anywhere near as good as OoT. And the
first person to say that WW was better than either of them is crazy. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/25/2006 1:40:13 PM | message detail |
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lol ec That's not what your mother said last night! --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:41:06 PM | message detail |
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I liked MM, but I don't see how it could be considered the superior game. SUPERIOR gameplay and SUPERIOR dungeon design and SUPERIOR use of items. lolcwutididthur ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| janembaman | Posted 10/25/2006 1:42:00 PM | message detail |
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Four main dungeons And one of them is Great Bay Temple --- laff |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/25/2006 1:42:13 PM | message detail |
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The Stone Tower Temple is the only one that has a superior design to most of OoT. The others are nowhere near as good as the Adult Link temples. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/25/2006 1:42:57 PM | message detail |
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And one of them is Great Bay Temple And that's one of the reasons it's nowhere near as good, though very good in its own right because Zelda games aren't bad. << --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/25/2006 1:43:40 PM | message detail |
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MM beats OoTs ass harder than I did to HM's mom last night. --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:43:50 PM | message detail |
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From MyWorldIsZelda Posted 10/25/2006 4:42:13 PM #305 The Stone Tower Temple is the only one that has a superior design to most of OoT. The others are nowhere near as good as the Adult Link temples. You mean all. Best level in any game ever. And one of them is Great Bay Temple Which is what a good Water Temple would have been if you weren't stuck going into the menu every time you wanted to go somewhere. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:44:31 PM | message detail |
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The dungeons in Majora's Mask paled in comparisan to OoT's. The only one that comes close is the Stone Tower Temple. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/25/2006 1:45:20 PM | message detail |
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HM is agreeing with you, that should be more than you need to know that
you're wrong! (Ignore the fact that Ulti and BT are on my side!) --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/25/2006 1:45:38 PM | message detail |
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"SUPERIOR gameplay" More like the same gameplay with a different world pasted over the original OOT game data. "and SUPERIOR dungeon design" Not really. And Nintendo spent all of the budget and resources on just those four dungeons, and then decided to add two littler filler dungeons before Stone Tower for good measure. Stone Tower was awesome, but the rest didn't come close to the likes of Forest Temple or Fire/Spirit Temple. "and SUPERIOR use of items. lolcwutididthur" Lol screen full of masks where half of them didn't do anything useful. --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/25/2006 1:45:40 PM | message detail |
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Which is what a good Water Temple would have been if you weren't
stuck going into the menu every time you wanted to go somewhere. The Water Temple put the Great Bay Temple to shame. One does not talk about Great Bay when they're talking about great dungeon design. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:46:46 PM | message detail |
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Both the Water Temple and Great Bay Temple were terrible. Let's leave it at that. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| HoorayProxies | Posted 10/25/2006 1:47:40 PM | message detail |
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Worse than HM's mother in bed even. (Oh man that's totally three HM mom disses on one page !!) --- Hooray Beer, Hooray Proxies! |
| MyWorldIsZelda | Posted 10/25/2006 1:48:35 PM | message detail |
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HAW HAW! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| janembaman | Posted 10/25/2006 1:48:38 PM | message detail |
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Rolling as Goron-Link in Termina>>>all Which is what a good Water Temple would have been if you weren't stuck going into the menu every time you wanted to go somewhere. XD *switch to heavy boots* *switch to normal boots* *switch to heavy boots* *switch to normal boots* *switch to heavy boots* *switch to normal boots* --- laff |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2006 1:49:55 PM | message detail |
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Hover boots>>>all masks ever. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:50:03 PM | message detail |
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And what's this talk of better items in MM? All of the best non-mask
items were in OoT. And the vast majority of the masks in MM were
worthless. Although Bunny Hood>any item in any Zelda game ever. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2006 1:50:30 PM | message detail |
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I've tiraded against OoT and for MM more times than I can remember, but
suffice it to say that MM actually had good and engrossing dungeons.
OoT's one
decent dungeon is the Forest Temple, and even that is overrated. Child
Link dungeons are outright awful, Fire Temple is a sleepwalk, Shadow
Temple is overly dark and meandering, Spirit Temple has the same
problems as Fire Temple, and the Water Temple? The Push Start/Iron
Boots ad nauseum schtick makes it one of the worst levels I've played
in any game, ever. OoT was downright painful to play at times, and I'll take a shorter game that outdoes it on every level. Quality over quantity, as usual. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:50:45 PM | message detail |
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Pressing one button to move around > menu-hopping. Sorry, but Great
Bay whips the Water Temple's ass for that fact alone. And I meant
actual items, not the masks. And since I'm now dealing with a bunch of OOT psychos (who are about as reasonable as anime fans), I'm off to do something far better than posting on this place. I'll just note that I like OOT a lot better than MM, so don't accuse me of being biased --- but how people can't concede that MM is designed a lot better is just beyond me. Even the little details like the maps or how the items looked when Link was holding them were done better in MM. All OOT really has on MM is the soundtrack and better boss fights. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:52:16 PM | message detail |
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From KamikazePotato Posted 10/25/2006 4:50:03 PM #318 And what's this talk of better items in MM? All of the best non-mask items were in OoT. And the vast majority of the masks in MM were worthless. Although Bunny Hood>any item in any Zelda game ever. Fire/Ice arrows have an actual use, for starters. Tony Reali calls!1 ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:52:25 PM | message detail |
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Is it just me or is Ulti a bigger jackass than many of the people he
bashes in debates? He's smart, but nice job calling everyone OoT
psychos. Real smart. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/25/2006 1:52:26 PM | message detail |
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And since I'm now dealing with a bunch of OOT psychos (who are about
as reasonable as anime fans), I'm off to do something far better than
posting on this place And now I'm happy you're going away. You almost got through a conversation this time without pulling this crap. Good luck next time, I suppose! --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:53:16 PM | message detail |
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Fire/Ice arrows have an actual use, for starters. Didn't really care about them to begin with. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/25/2006 1:53:34 PM | message detail |
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LTTP > OOT > MM --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| janembaman | Posted 10/25/2006 1:53:43 PM | message detail |
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All OOT really has on MM is the soundtrack and better boss fights. @_@ MM boss fights are far better than OOT Except for Stone Tower boss...it was sad --- laff |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:54:35 PM | message detail |
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From KamikazePotato Posted 10/25/2006 4:52:25 PM #322 Is it just me or is Ulti a bigger jackass than many of the people he bashes in debates? He's smart, but nice job calling everyone OoT psychos. Real smart. The best part about being me is that no one can ever tell whether or not I'm actually being serious =p I figured that admitting I like OOT a lot more would clue you in a bit. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2006 1:54:37 PM | message detail |
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No one is worse than rabid anime fans, Ulti. NO ONE!!! Its not even comparable... *looks at Juggernaut vs Buu topic* >____>; --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Redtooth | Posted 10/25/2006 1:55:01 PM | message detail |
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anime>OOT...*runs very fast* --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 10/25/2006 1:55:40 PM | message detail |
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"I've tiraded against OoT and for MM more
times than I can remember, but suffice it to say that MM actually had
good and engrossing dungeons. OoT's one decent dungeon is the Forest
Temple, and even that is overrated. Child Link dungeons are outright
awful, Fire Temple is a sleepwalk, Shadow Temple is overly dark and
meandering, Spirit Temple has the same problems as Fire Temple, and the
Water Temple? The Push Start/Iron Boots ad nauseum schtick makes it one
of the worst levels I've played in any game, ever. OoT was downright painful to play at times, and I'll take a shorter game that outdoes it on every level. Quality over quantity, as usual." All of OOTs dungeons being terrible and MMs four dungeons being better is just your misguided opinion. I could do like forty pages going over every single detail of both games, walking through both at the same time step by step, and explaining at each and every step why OOT is better. Especially when Nintendo already did OOT first and then went into MM already knowing what they did and concentrating on a short game with four dungeons. But you know what? That still wouldn't convince the people who think MM is better because their whole argument isn't really about how great MM is but about how overrated OOT is. --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/25/2006 1:55:56 PM | message detail |
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MM's boss fights were extremely awesome, but OoT had a number of better
fights (Volvagia, Bongo Bongo, Ganon, etc.). Still, that's one of the
highlights of MM, I think. Its dungeon design, however, is not. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:56:46 PM | message detail |
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Didn't really care about them to begin with. The entire reason I liked Great Bay so much is because of all the waterfall freezing and the swimming. I'm a water whore, always have been. I'm the whacko you'd see out walking in a thunderstorm or something. But yeah, items are given more attention in MM overall. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:57:16 PM | message detail |
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The best part about being me is that no one can ever tell whether or not I'm actually being serious =p Be wary about using sarcasm on the internets. My detector has been broken for a while, and I'm sure other people are the same. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2006 1:58:01 PM | message detail |
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All of OOTs dungeons being terrible and MMs four dungeons being better is just your misguided opinion. And guess what? My opinion means more to me than yours, kid. I could do like forty pages going over every single detail of both games, walking through both at the same time step by step, and explaining at each and every step why OOT is better. Then DO it. Make a separate topic if need be! Especially when Nintendo already did OOT first and then went into MM already knowing what they did and concentrating on a short game with four dungeons. But you know what? That still wouldn't convince the people who think MM is better because their whole argument isn't really about how great MM is but about how overrated OOT is. Because MM isn't in my top ten games or anything. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 1:58:31 PM | message detail |
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I'm a water whore, always have been. I'm the whacko you'd see out walking in a thunderstorm or something. I absolutely, positively abhor every water level in every game ever made. There is not a single good one I can think of. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 1:58:50 PM | message detail |
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All of OOTs dungeons being terrible and MMs four dungeons being
better is just your misguided opinion. I could do like forty pages
going over every single detail of both games, walking through both at
the same time step by step, and explaining at each and every step why
OOT is better. Especially when Nintendo already did OOT first and then
went into MM already knowing what they did and concentrating on a short
game with four dungeons. But you know what? That still wouldn't
convince the people who think MM is better because their whole argument
isn't really about how great MM is but about how overrated OOT is. I'm calling bias if people jump on me for being a jackass in debates, yet let crap like this pass. "Your misguided opinion is crap and you're only arguing that OOT is overrated! I'm a mindreader and know these things! Really!" Go away. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/25/2006 1:59:06 PM | message detail |
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Byut I think were all ignoring that the best zelda game of all is obviously the wand of gamelon. http://youtube.com/watch?v=CT6nb1eD6aw How can you even begin to argue that any other zelda game beats WoG's story? --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2006 1:59:19 PM | message detail |
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The Ganondorf battle in OoT is one of my personal favorite boss fights ever...magic blast volleys, very intense... --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 2:00:11 PM | message detail |
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I absolutely, positively abhor every water level in every game ever made. There is not a single good one I can think of. I like even Sonic water levels <_< And even people that hate water levels have to like them in Mega Man games. Right? ....right? Come on man, you can jump to the top of the screen! ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/25/2006 2:00:19 PM | message detail |
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The Ganondorf fighti n OoT was awesome, but my absolute favorite boss
battle in Ganon in TWW. I wouldn't mind another sword fight with Ganon
at the end of TP... --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2006 2:00:25 PM | message detail |
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OoT had a number of better fights (Volvagia, Bongo Bongo, Ganon, etc.) I believe mnm put it best when he described Volvagia as a glorified Whack-A-Mole game. Bongo Bongo was sort of neat, but only because he recalled some of the frantic nature the bosses in LttP had (and that OoT sorely lacked). And Ganon may very well be one of the worst final bosses in any game. It's all atmosphere. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| janembaman | Posted 10/25/2006 2:00:50 PM | message detail |
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| MegaReincarnate | Posted 10/25/2006 2:01:16 PM | message detail |
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LttP and WW > both, topic over. --- Hispanics 1 | Whites 5 Asians 4 | Blacks 3 |
| Mumei | Posted 10/25/2006 2:01:56 PM | message detail |
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Anyone with the least bit of sense realizes that Majora's Mask is superior to Ocarina of Time. --- "I believe that words uttered in passion contain a greater living truth than do those words which express thoughts rationally conceived"- Sensei, "Kokoro" |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 2:02:16 PM | message detail |
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I'm calling bias if people jump on me for being a jackass in debates, yet let crap like this pass. Why bother refuting it? It kind of self-pwned itself when it was posted. And even people that hate water levels have to like them in Mega Man games. Right? ....right? Come on man, you can jump to the top of the screen! Eh, forgot about MM, but they're still not that great. And you...like Sonic water levels? Uh... --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2006 2:03:28 PM | message detail |
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LttP and WW > both, topic over. Don't even get me started on LTTP. That has got to be the 2nd msot overrated game on the entire site. And WW? >_> --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/25/2006 2:03:54 PM | message detail |
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Be wary about using sarcasm on the internets. My detector has been broken for a while, and I'm sure other people are the same. Meh, too fun to screw around with people. And holy CRAP I just defeated the Giant Basement Cricket that has tormented me for over 2 months! SCORE!! Okay now seriously. I'm out. TiVo has run long enough so I can watch my crap without commercials =p ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), Castlevania: LoI, MMZX |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/25/2006 2:03:55 PM | message detail |
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I believe mnm put it best when he described Volvagia as a glorified
Whack-A-Mole game. Bongo Bongo was sort of neat, but only because he
recalled some of the frantic nature the bosses in LttP had (and that
OoT sorely lacked). Volvagia was awesome. I loved the latter part of the battle where the rocks are falling down and you have to avoid them while still hitting Volvagia. Call it a "glorified Whack-A-Mole" if you want, but it's still damn good -- and much more enjoyable than some of the bosses I can name in MM. And Ganon may very well be one of the worst final bosses in any game. It's all atmosphere. Both forms of Ganon, while not terribly difficult, were very awesome. Atmosphere does play a big role in that, of course, but the actual battle itself wasn't bad at all. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
| janembaman | Posted 10/25/2006 2:04:31 PM | message detail |
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I personally hate "Mine Levels" more than "Water Levels" Dunno why,mine levels are boring to me Ice levels>all --- laff |
| TehMissingLink | Posted 10/25/2006 2:05:15 PM | message detail |
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TWW was very awesome. It's right behind OoT and ALttP for me. --- The Master Sword is the most sought-after blade in Hyrule. He who wields it carries with him the hope of the kingdom. |
