GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 404
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/24/2006 10:17:39 AM | message detail |
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Well, based on what we have now, Phoenix Wright is still fodder, and Gordon is about as much as a midcarder as Kefka. That doesn't exactly set off any red flags for me. It's not that unbelievable. How high are you expecting Sora to be? Based off of where Riku looks to be right now, I'd have to put Sora in the 32% range. That puts Gordon at 24.36% on BL and Phoenix at 20.36% on BL. I don't buy either of those numbers at all. Gordon was highly suspect last year for a reason. And why don't I buy Phoenix being non-fodder? Because he has no reason to be anything but fodder. All characters with backgrounds just like his are fodder. I really don't see why he's the exception. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 5: Darkwing Duck (4-0) |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 10/24/2006 10:19:22 AM | message detail |
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And even IF Gordon Freeman 2005 was legit, I'd still be disappointed in
where that places Sora. Especially after seeing what Riku did, I would
expect Sora to be higher than that. Heck, I think he could've beaten
Leon Kennedy last year before KHII. --- Captain Jack Sparrow's Run to the NCAA Character Contest II Championship: Week 5: Darkwing Duck (4-0) |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/24/2006 10:23:57 AM | message detail |
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I would expect Sora to be around 32% myself. But I'm also fairly
confident that Sora will eventually bring this up to around 64% after
school. Which puts Gordon right around where he was last year. Maybe
about .5% off, but stats aren't always perfect --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/24/2006 10:27:20 AM | message detail |
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Besides, HL2 was ported to the Xbox after last year's contest, and I
think some Episode 1 thing for him has too? Even if he ends up just a
little bit above the stats from last year, it would be justifiable. --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 10:39:53 AM | message detail |
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This match is awesome. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 10:42:39 AM | message detail |
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This isn't at all surprising for a character who barely tripled Tingle
of all people. I certainly wouldn't even consider the absolutely absurd
possibility of Sora being able to beat Yoshi or Dante. Plenty of people
don't like Sora, and even though KH2 may have made him more likable, I
haven't seen anyone suddenly put him at #1 on their favorite character
list. KH2 doing less for Sora than DMC3 did for Dante makes perfect
sense to me. --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 10:45:08 AM | message detail |
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Why is Sora so bashed here? Yeah he may not be the stongest character
in the contests, but for some reason I think he's better than he gets
credit for. If I saw a Dante/Sora match, I would have predicted Sora
without a second thought. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 10:49:01 AM | message detail |
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Why is Sora so bashed here? Yeah he may not be the stongest
character in the contests, but for some reason I think he's better than
he gets credit for. If I saw a Dante/Sora match, I would have predicted
Sora without a second thought. 1. He gets SFF'd by friggin' everyone. I doubt that Dante would be an exception. 2. He couldn't triple Agent 47, he barely tripled Tingle, and it's looking like he won't double Gordon Freeman after KH2. 3. He's one of the least likable characters in his game. I've seen more hardcore Tidus fanboyism than I have Sora fanboyism. --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| janembaman | Posted 10/24/2006 10:51:44 AM | message detail |
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Still,Sora is KH representative A SFF match between him and Riku will be in Sora favor --- laff |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 10:52:32 AM | message detail |
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Then again my view on character stats is a little twisted and
regardless of how well Dante might do I can't really see him as
"strong". Maybe it's because I wasn't around to see the other contests
before 2005, but if I had to hazard a prediction right now I'd say Sora
> Yoshi > Dante. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/24/2006 10:54:23 AM | message detail |
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Maybe it's because I wasn't around to see the other contests before 2005 If you were, you'd probably have even less respect for Dante's strength. He wasn't very impressive in those years compared to his 2005 performance. In fact, he was always around Knuckle's level. I think the fact that Dante and Knuckles ended up close again in 2005 is one of the reasons people support DD overrating. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 10:54:42 AM | message detail |
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Yoshi=Dante>Sora, easily. Sora never fails to unimpress (well, except for 2004, but that was when he was hidden behind SFF). --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/24/2006 10:55:46 AM | message detail |
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Sora looked mighty nice against Alucard last year..... --- Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 10:56:32 AM | message detail |
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And then got completely destroyed by Snake. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 10:57:05 AM | message detail |
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My messed up logic refuses to let me believe that Dante would beat Sora. I just can't see it. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 10:58:45 AM | message detail |
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I don't expect Sora to be anywhere near NN strength, but you know,
maybe the Snake thing was a fluke. Anomlies happen as you all like to
say. If Sora puts up decent numbers on Mega Man, I'd have an even
harder time taking Dante over him. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| janembaman | Posted 10/24/2006 11:03:21 AM | message detail |
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So...how much percentages does Megaman needs tomorrow if he wants to beat Snake? --- laff |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:04:40 AM | message detail |
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Mega Man has a strength of 38.79 against Base Link. Ryu has a strength of 29.98 against Base Link. Mega Man 61.36% 54,646 Ryu 38.64% 34,418 TOTAL VOTES 89,063 Mega Man wins with 61.36% of the vote! This is also Ryu overrated by Bowser/Snake, so MM should get a little higher. However, with that awful match pic, i wouldn't be surprised if MM underperformed. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:06:13 AM | message detail |
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One anamoly is something else, but when it happens quite a few times,
you just have to accept that Sora isn't very strong. Dante and Yoshi
would definitely beat him, and I'd probably take Riku over him too at
this point. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| janembaman | Posted 10/24/2006 11:07:25 AM | message detail |
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CjayC could use Megaman picture from the first box art and it would still look better than his current picture -_- --- laff |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:07:59 AM | message detail |
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Where else has Sora failed to impress? --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:11:19 AM | message detail |
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2003: Blown out by Aeris Games Contest: Almost loses to Soul Calibur, then gets beat by SC 2005: Snake blowout 2006: Disappoints a little against Tingle, can't double Gordon Freeman --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:13:06 AM | message detail |
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I still don't get why tripling Tingle is a disappointent. What did
people expect, a quadding? That's not easy for anyone to do. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/24/2006 11:14:51 AM | message detail |
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Sora had a legitimate reason for SFF in 2003. The game contest wasn't
even Sora, and doubling Gordon is something you should expect out of
someone like Zelda or Vincent, not Sora. As far as I'm concerned, his match with Snake is his only real "wow that sucks" moment --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:17:56 AM | message detail |
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Possibly, but what I was trying to say is that Sora would not beat Yoshi or Dante. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:18:51 AM | message detail |
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Nothing you've shown me makes me want to change my mind. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/24/2006 11:19:06 AM | message detail |
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Gordon was highly suspect last year for a reason. Doubt it. Having one of if not the most popular game of the year come out, your first in 7 or 8 years, will boost any character through the roof. Follow that up with the same game coming out for XBox, and Half-Life 2: Episode 1 coming out, and Gordon should be stronger then last year easily. I will be seriously shocked if he somehow becomes weaker since last year. --- Good to the last drop |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:19:34 AM | message detail |
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So what's your reasoning then? Because everything else points otherwise. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 11:19:39 AM | message detail |
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Still,Sora is KH representative A SFF match between him and Riku will be in Sora favor lol Tidus vs. Auron, MM vs. Zero, etc. Sora looked mighty nice against Alucard last year..... The same Alucard that Auron made mincemeat out of this year. Alucard was never as strong as he looked in the 2k4 stats, and is even weaker now. I still don't get why tripling Tingle is a disappointent. What did people expect, a quadding? That's not easy for anyone to do. Knuckles 2k2 managed it, and he's the same strength as Alucard 2k3. A quadding isn't exactly difficult to accomplish, especially considering that Sora beat Alucard, and has had KH2 since then. --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:20:11 AM | message detail |
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I don't have any proof either, it's just a gut feeling. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 11:20:46 AM | message detail |
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Earlier you said it was "logic". Why the change? --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:20:52 AM | message detail |
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Gut feeling only takes you so far. Sora is not that popular, and he would not beat Yoshi or Dante. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:21:24 AM | message detail |
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What if (GASP!) Tingle actually has some sort of strength rather than being complete, useless fodder? --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:21:59 AM | message detail |
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Tingle is probably even more hated than Master Chief, and that's saying something. --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:22:51 AM | message detail |
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By "logic" I was going with the "this is GameFAQs, RPGs are heavily
favored here, especially Sqeenix games, Sora is from said company,
Dante is not, Sora > Dante" --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 11:23:51 AM | message detail |
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What if (GASP!) Tingle actually has some sort of strength rather than being complete, useless fodder? You mean Tingle...and Gordon Freeman...and Phoenix Wright. People were saying the same thing about Luca Blight and Sam Fisher before Knuckles beat Magus, and we all know where that got them. --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2006 11:24:09 AM | message detail |
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Dante almost beat Vincent. Although it was before AC and DoC, so let's
say Dante almost beat Squall. Woud you take Sora over Squall? --- Do you really need me to bring out the Ovaltine?-Stripey12isback on why hes a war hero. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/24/2006 11:24:27 AM | message detail |
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And keep in mind, I wasn't trying to convince anyone that Sora >
Dante would be a lock or whatever, I was just trying to figure out why
most people thought the opposite. --- CB5 Points: 45/48, Current Oracle placement: 27/165 Now playing: Okami |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 11:24:56 AM | message detail |
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By "logic" I was going with the "this is GameFAQs, RPGs are heavily
favored here, especially Sqeenix games, Tidus is from said company,
Kirby/Ganon/Bowser/Ryu is not, Tidus > the aforementioned" Fixed! What does Sora have that Tidus doesn't? --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| janembaman | Posted 10/24/2006 11:25:07 AM | message detail |
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What if (GASP!) Tingle actually has some sort of strength rather than being complete, useless fodder? Possible,but I can't understand why He is hated even among LoZ fans (me included),and even if you don't hate him,you don't care about him,either Heh,30k of pity votes --- laff |
| janembaman | Posted 10/24/2006 11:29:05 AM | message detail |
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Speaking of Tingle,I think Malon can be stronger than him --- laff |
| KingBartz | Posted 10/24/2006 11:32:05 AM | message detail |
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MORE LIKE 30k OF ANTI-VOTES M I RITE? --- That was too close. You were almost a Jill sandwich. SC2k6: 46/52 Today's pick: Sora |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/24/2006 11:33:41 AM | message detail |
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Heh, you're totally right. I know I voted for Tingle just because Sora's such a terrible character. --- 99% of people just make up statistics on the spot. If you are part of the 1%, post this in your sig |
| NewLib | Posted 10/24/2006 11:34:03 AM | message detail |
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Malon would definitely be stronger, because many Zelda fans would fall right in line behind her. Hell, I think Epona would come out somewhere between 20-26 BL --- --NL-- Z1mZum made me look like Toadette. And made me nominate her. |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/24/2006 11:49:37 AM | message detail |
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So... err... why is Sora actually decreasing in % just when the after-school vote should be beginning? --- CB5 Oracle Challenge - Today's prediction: Sora with 62.59% |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/24/2006 11:52:55 AM | message detail |
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Well, he's not decreasing. But he's not increasing either. Uh oh... >_> --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/24/2006 11:57:03 AM | message detail |
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I'm quite dissapointed with Sora today. Assuming a constant Gordon,
this showing does prove that he got SFFed badly by Snake and maybe
gained a little. But he's still a full tier behind somebody like Knuckles. And that's not going to be nearly enough to put MM in danger. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| transience | Posted 10/24/2006 12:00:03 PM | message detail |
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well, Dante did beat Hayabusa worse than Sora did, albeit that was
before KH2. I'd pick Dante over Sora, but it wouldn't be a lock. --- xyzzy |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/24/2006 12:02:24 PM | message detail |
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Squall Vincent Bowser Tifa etc. -------- Dante Ganondorf Yoshi Kirby Knuckles etc. --------- Sora Tidus Leon Kennedy Magus etc. Right after a major game and with a 1st seed, that's just not on. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| WarThaNemesis | Posted 10/24/2006 12:02:33 PM | message detail |
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I was hoping that Magus or Knux would get the 8 seed in this division, just to see a one seed fall in the first round. --- War13104 had something weak beating something strong and he looks smarter than you or something - TessaTestarossa |
