GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 400
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 2:00:02 AM | message detail |
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well you could measure Yoshi through Pac-Man and see he outdid Luigi,
or measure him through random fodder. you can't blame Yoshi for not
getting a decent opponent. all I'm saying is that claiming Dante is a lock to beat Yoshi is foolish because we have no way of knowing where Yoshi is at the moment. --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 2:04:44 AM | message detail |
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True he outdid luigi on pacman... however between luigi and yoshi
facing pac-man the big mario character boost occured, so that isn't
exactly saying much. Pac-man was brought up to over 22% in the adjusted
stats to get yoshi to his value. That seems little high. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2006 2:05:57 AM | message detail |
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At the very least, the fantastic performances put up by the KHII
characters and Auron (the Final Fantasy character who would logically
get the biggest boost from the game) makes Yoshi's performance against
Riku look more respectable. --- The Little Mermaid 2-Disc Platinum Edition DVD Coming October 3, 2006 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 2:06:00 AM | message detail |
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all I'm saying is that claiming Dante is a lock to beat Yoshi is
foolish because we have no way of knowing where Yoshi is at the moment. I never said he was a lock, just that I found it unlikely that yoshi is an elite at the same level. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 10/22/2006 2:07:06 AM | message detail |
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At the very least, the fantastic performances put up by the KHII
characters and Auron (the Final Fantasy character who would logically
get the biggest boost from the game) makes Yoshi's performance against
Riku look more respectable. I agree, that's why I didn't bring it up. It definitely didn't make him look good either though, although it's fair to say that it kept yoshi as much of an unknown as ever. --- When D... I'd be able to finish this sig if Z1mZum didn't own me so hard in the guru contest. Congrats on your victory! |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2006 3:15:56 AM | message detail |
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I can't decide if Squall getting 41% on Solid Snake makes Snake look
strong or Squall doing a great job to almost avoid the weird FF VS MGS
thing. --- Supporter of Ryu. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 3:27:01 AM | message detail |
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The lack of people discussing the Lara/Chun prediction percentage makes me sad. :( Less predictors than Knuckles/Magus and some other first round match which escapes me (I can't remember which it is - GTA/Warcraft? Halo/Castlevania?) FTW! --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 44/46 Today: Chun (euw) |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:29:09 AM | message detail |
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I'd say this is all Snake. I'd be intrested to see if Sonic can match
this performance on Vincent, because as far as I'm conerned. Snake is
the character to beat in this contest. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| voltch | Posted 10/22/2006 3:32:20 AM | message detail |
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as long as snakes potential uber boosting games haven' coe out i reckon he's still at the foot of the noble nine. --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:33:27 AM | message detail |
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You're insane if you think MegaMan isn't weaker than Snake now, completly insane. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 3:34:17 AM | message detail |
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I don't know why Chun's prediction percentage is a shock.. I mean, it's
Lara Croft. of course she's casual bait. we need more of her. --- xyzzy |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:35:41 AM | message detail |
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In all honesty. If you pretend that you've never been to GameFAQs before. Chun Li beating Lara Croft is pretty unbelievable. >_< --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:39:35 AM | message detail |
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That's quite the votals. o_0 --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 3:39:59 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, but the lowest prediction of the prediction percentage I saw for
Chun was like 38% or something. Lara had insane bracket support there. Where does that rank on the all time list of low pred %? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2006 3:42:53 AM | message detail |
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Chun Li beating Lara Croft is pretty unbelievable. >_< Yeah sure it was. Chun Li wasn't like, the big favourite if you looked at the X-Stats or used common sense after seeing how Sub-Zero won over Chun Li. The 2D fighters has really showed how big they were in the early 90s --- Supporter of Ryu. |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 3:44:19 AM | message detail |
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well, Ryu had under 50% vs. Kratos. Kratos is another casual character,
but put them together and you can get the sense that SF just doesn't
have great bracket support. --- xyzzy |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:45:39 AM | message detail |
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Fighting Games have really stunned the predictions this year. >_< --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2006 3:46:34 AM | message detail |
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Oh and we don't need more Lara, we do need more Jill. Her last two
losses has both been under 30 votes, maybe she can keep this up and it
might become the new GFNW >_> --- Supporter of Ryu. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 3:46:45 AM | message detail |
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Yeah sure it was. Chun Li wasn't like, the big favourite if you
looked at the X-Stats or used common sense after seeing how Sub-Zero
won over Chun Li. ...what the hell are you talking about? If this match became like a worldwide poll of some sort, I 100% guarantee that Lara wins. Smurf was saying it was a shock "if it's the first time you've come to GameFAQs". --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 3:53:57 AM | message detail |
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Oh, and we SO need more Lara. Since we likely won't get a character
battle next year, I'm fairly sure a sequel to Legend will be out by
2008. That would make her EXTREMELY unpredictable given the right
placement. Purely going by xstats, Lara is now projected to go 50-50
with...yes, you guessed it, Jill Valentine! Oh, and Jill's probably decreased since. lol Lara > Jill >_>; --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| transience | Posted 10/22/2006 3:56:23 AM | message detail |
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XIII is a wee bit delusional about Lara. you can give her a thousand
releases and she's not going to boost like hell. Lara is about at the
fodder line, just like she was in 2k3. 2k4 never happened. also, don't forget Chun Li is overrated thanks to Bowser. I tend to use M. Bison when thinking about Chun Li. makes more sense to me. --- xyzzy |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 3:58:22 AM | message detail |
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(3) Jill Valentine (6) Master Cheif (2) Lara Croft (7) Tommy Vercetti A winner is _________ --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| YoboD | Posted 10/22/2006 3:59:22 AM | message detail |
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Master Chief Tommy Master Chief --- Duff beer for me, Duff beer for you, I'll have a Duff, you'll have one too. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 3:59:33 AM | message detail |
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lol Tranny, I was kidding...Crytsal Dynamics are likely to make the
sequel to Legend better (it seriously doesn't need anything changing in
the gameplay engine, but make it longer and more difficult please), in
which case I wouldn't be surprised if she got a fairly decent boost. I wouldn't even contemplate Lara > Jill...well I might, but I'd still take Jill. I know Chun is overrated, I used that in my "Lara will break 45%" argument. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 4:00:05 AM | message detail |
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Lara is about at the fodder line, just like she was in 2k3. 2k4 never happened. Is it me or is the fodder line being dragged upwards every year? >_< Ranking 37th out of 64 is average, not fodder. <_< --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 4:02:23 AM | message detail |
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| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 4:02:36 AM | message detail |
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Chief > Vercetti --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 4:11:56 AM | message detail |
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And Squall finally wins an update! --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/22/2006 4:31:52 AM | message detail |
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MGS and FF fanbases are completely different? Indeed they are not. I find it unbelievable that some people find it so hard to accept a considerable overlap between these fanbases. MGS and FF are without a doubt the 2 biggest series for the Playstation era. So the genre is a bit different. Who cares? Haven't any of you played both? Does this mean there has to be noticeable SFF in every single FF-MGS match? Of course not. Just look at Squall -Vincent. Are you going to tell me that there was no SFF in that match? There was a humongous amount of SFF, it was just divided proportionally to strength. Frankly, it's not even a matter of if there is SFF in today's match, it's a matter of how much. I, for one, SFF voted Snake. hey Leon, KH, others - how high up are Squall and Snake on your favourite character lists? #5th and #3rd respectively for me. --- CB: 46/48. Today: Snake vs. Squall. Tomorrow: Yoshi vs. Dante. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/22/2006 4:59:11 AM | message detail |
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Snake's got a good old chance against MM.. it's just that he's
already beaten him twice, the second time worse than the first. sure he
can turn it around, but if it's just based on MGS4 hype there's not
much of a case to be made for a sizable boost. (though that wouldn't
make any sense, MGS4 hype boosting him and not SSBB?) could he boost?
sure, Crono has before. it just doesn't seem very likely for him to win
unless MM drops. (and he might, we don't know yet.) Snake has had Snake Eater since his last appearance with Mega Man. --- CB: 46/48. Today: Snake vs. Squall. Tomorrow: Yoshi vs. Dante. |
| voltch | Posted 10/22/2006 4:59:22 AM | message detail |
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you can't call it SFF if it's not the same franchise. another term ought to be used and made offcial --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/22/2006 5:19:40 AM | message detail |
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you can't call it SFF if it's not the same franchise. You can, because SFF doesn't stand for same franchise factor, but same fanbase factor. Big difference. You can't be a fan on 2 different franchises? Keep in mind that, although Squall's coming back pretty nicely here, he'll probably end up under 45%. Squall should be around Vincent this year. Is anyone expecting Sonic to beat Vincent with 55%+? Because he won't, you know. --- CB: 46/48. Today: Snake vs. Squall. Tomorrow: Yoshi vs. Dante. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/22/2006 5:27:57 AM | message detail |
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Ranking 37th out of 64 is average, not fodder. <_< The fodder line isn't determined by their rank. It's determined by what they would get on Link. --- Jill vs. Peach / Bracket: Jill / Vote: Peach (36/38) Tomorrow / Bracket: Zelda / Vote: Zelda |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 5:30:41 AM | message detail |
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All barring about 30 characters would scrape under 20% aganist Link, that hardly makes them fodder. You're only fodder in comparison. It should be ranking, not x-stats related. Labelling a character "Fodder" when 60% of all characters are as such, is pointless of the term. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| Ayvuir | Posted 10/22/2006 5:34:30 AM | message detail |
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400th edition. Pretty amazing. --- Being drunk doesn't make me do stupid things, it gives me an excuse to do stupid things - Caelus |
| rpgapzx | Posted 10/22/2006 5:49:51 AM | message detail |
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All barring about 30 characters would scrape under 20% aganist Link, that hardly makes them fodder. You're only fodder in comparison. It should be ranking, not x-stats related. Labelling a character "Fodder" when 60% of all characters are as such, is pointless of the term. Your point has a gigantic flaw. The female bracket. Lara finishes 45+ in a normal 64. Or doesn't make it. --- Poker is proof that men are the irrational sex. SC2K6: 47/48 // Today: Snake // Leaderboard: 15th |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 5:50:39 AM | message detail |
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In a "Normal" bracket, in 2003 she finished 37th. That's midcarder territory. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/22/2006 6:32:19 AM | message detail |
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I always saw the fodder line as 20% on Base Link...did we suddenly raise that line again or something? >_> --- Chun-Li's Road to the Female Final Four: vs Yuna (November 2nd) *Currently playing Tales of the Abyss* |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/22/2006 6:35:08 AM | message detail |
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If you think that somebody who can get enough nominations to be a 2nd
seed, who can also triple others is "Fodder", you need to redefine what
fodder is. --- Smurf. The Cream of Jill Valentine Fanboyism. FOREVER INFERIOR TO HARMONICA. |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/22/2006 8:11:16 AM | message detail |
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If you think that somebody who can get enough nominations to be a
2nd seed, who can also triple others is "Fodder", you need to redefine
what fodder is. It doesn't matter where a person ranks in the field. We're talking about their relative strength from the top. It doesn't matter where they rank because the field varies in strength every year. If you put every major Nintendo and Final Fantasy character in the bracket, along with all of the rest of the strongest characters we've seen, Lara would finish far below 37th. Does that mean anything about her strength? Not a damn thing. --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Devil May Cry, Mega Man ZX |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/22/2006 8:14:48 AM | message detail |
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And reading that past topic gave me a severe headache. People trying to bring back up Capcom or Konami SFF for the loss... --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Devil May Cry, Mega Man ZX |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2006 8:31:51 AM | message detail |
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Let's put it this way, there is SFF in every match because there is a
portion of people who like both characters no matter who they are. What
makes it a big factor is when a big majority of the people vote for one
character over the other. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 8:58:11 AM | message detail |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Snake doing BETTER now than he was in the dead of night? Well, SSBB boost happened, so long main bracket, etc. =p --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/22/2006 9:01:18 AM | message detail |
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Are we still arguing about SFF in this match? o_0 --- This was Ed Bellis. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 9:03:39 AM | message detail |
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I'm tempted to 'concede' there's no SFF here. Snake's got Mega Man locked up tight if that's the case! --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2006 9:04:17 AM | message detail |
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What does Sonic need on Vincent to be considered the favourite against Crono (at least until Crono faces Bowser)? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz AC2K6 Score: 46/48 Today: Snake |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/22/2006 9:06:22 AM | message detail |
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Well Crono got 55.38% on Vincent, so that's something to look for. --- Chun-Li's Road to the Female Final Four: vs Yuna (November 2nd) *Currently playing Tales of the Abyss* |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2006 9:06:32 AM | message detail |
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I'd say 56-57%, but then people will look at this match and try to say
the Devil Division was overrated all along and this wasn't SFF in the
slightest. I'll still consider him the favorite if he gets in that range, though. Just outperforming Crono on Vincent will probably make me favor him. --- *kills self Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 10/22/2006 9:06:59 AM | message detail |
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I hate this match since we have no read on Squall being at his 2k5 ranking... --- Currently playing: Grand Theft Auto 3, Devil May Cry, Mega Man ZX |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/22/2006 9:07:04 AM | message detail |
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I've decided I want to wait until the end of the match before I call it
SFF, afterall. I'm certain the final few hours won't be so kind to
Snake, and depending on where Squall lands I'll see what that means for
Solid and Squall...right now though, I'm gonna revert back to
wait-and-see mode. --- http://wemajor12.myrockinprofile.com/ Next celebrity I hope to out-rank: Adam Sandler (#1) |